Jon Heyman on MLB TV...

by Bart41 on Jul 16, 2010 6:46 PM EDT

During MLB Tonight, Chris Rose interviewed Jon Heyman and one of the topics was why the Royals would want to move Soria. Heyman went through the obvious reasons that we're all aware of and then this bit:

"The original thing for them was they would trade anyone but Greinke or Butler. Now I'm hearing they just want to trade Guillen and Farnsworth and keep everybody else, so they must like their team a lot more than everybody else does."

If this is even somewhere in the neighborhood of true, it is ridiculous. Most of us have believed the Moore/Yost optimism talk is more of a result of "what else can they say" than "they really believe this." But if other teams are saying "we want to keep everybody else," well, that can't mean we're aggressively shopping half the roster. I'm not saying Heyman hearing things is the final verdict on Dayton Moore's sanity, but it's not exactly confidence inspiring. If we only want to trade JoGui/Farns, we're in worse shape than we realized. It means GMDM not only cannot fairly assess major league talent, but also has no grasp of reality. A front office of Pollyanna nitwits means another decade of laughingstock baseball. Guess we'll find out in a couple weeks.

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the rumblings have been heading in this direction for awhile now...

supposedly a team also made a call about kendall last month, and moore shot him down

we have a bad GM

by Freneau on Jul 16, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

inexcusable.

by Bart41 on Jul 16, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Firable offense

There is a moron out there (and we can only suspect Texas) who wanted Kendall and he said no?

Go away Dayton

by kcbottom9th on Jul 16, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Are you serious about Kendall?

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by kcscoliny on Jul 16, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

yes

by Freneau on Jul 16, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions

heard this from a few directions

one of them here:

[Comment From PatrickPatrick: ]
You know, I would want to hear some of the stories you’ve heard about Dayton Moore and what he’s telling teams. I love me some schaudenfreude!
Tuesday July 13, 2010 7:48 Patrick
7:48

Dave Cameron:
He told a contender that Jason Kendall wasn’t available. Seriously.

this was from cameron’s chat at the ASG

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/all-star-game-live-blog/

by Freneau on Jul 16, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

That is crazytown.

by Gross(est) on Jul 16, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Dave Cameron is a dumb fuck

gimme a better source.

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by doublestix on Jul 17, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions

seriously

this wouldn’t totally surprise me, but i need a better source before i believe it. preferably a source that doesn’t think Lopez for Danks is fair.

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by doublestix on Jul 17, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

he's not giving analysis though

he’s passing along a rumor he heard schmoozing at the ASG

by Freneau on Jul 17, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Moore is a fucking idiot!!!

How much longer do we have to deal with this?

Fire Dayton Moore Now!!!!!!!!!

by royaldaddy on Jul 17, 2010 9:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Dave Cameron mentioned it in the Fangraphs chat as well.

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by Bento Box on Jul 16, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions

What i think they meant is

the Royals are only SHOPPING Farns and Guillen. GMDM has looked pretty stupid, but i think he is smart enough that he would be willing to listen to offers about other guys.

by Royals Time on Jul 16, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions

but the point is...

we should WANT to trade just about everybody else. We shouldn’t be passive in the trade market. The fact we aren’t SHOPPING almost every other warm body on the team is evidence enough that Dayton Moore just doesn’t get it.

by Bart41 on Jul 16, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Seriously

We can get top level talent for Soria…. I know he’s a key piece to the team, but we can get legit future super star for a guy who is a injury prone RP. :)

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by 306008 on Jul 16, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions

I guess the call with Brian Sabean offering DDJ for Buster Posey did not go so well

by Gopherballs on Jul 16, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah if DM has actually said Kendall is unavailable..

..that’s simply a fireable offense and anyone saying otherwise flat out doesn’t know the first thing about baseball and ought to quit following the sport.

IF it is true.

Killing time until time kills me

by EspeciallyK on Jul 16, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions

It doesn't surprise me that Moore doesn't seem inclined to trade anyone

…including the most ominous veteran parts (Guillen, Kendall, Pods, etc.).

This sounds simple….but based on his own evaluations, he probably thinks this team should be competing right now and/or is probably very close to doing so. The FO can’t understand why we aren’t competing. And therein lies the problem.

Get treated. Royally.

by Royals Nation on Jul 17, 2010 3:13 AM EDT reply actions

“This sounds simple….but based on his own evaluations, he probably thinks this team should be competing right now and/or is probably very close to doing so. "

I don’t think that’s it—it’s more that DM wants a roster with bona fide major league players (even if they aren’t good) instead of AAAA scrubs until his kids hit KC.

by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 18, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman probably knows what's going with the Royals

he’s got plenty of, ahem, “connections” at various levels of the organization: Ankiel, Bloomquist, Moustakas, Hosmer, Colon, Hochevar, Chen…

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 17, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions

All Boras clients?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions

bingo

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

I can see why he's possibly reluctant to trade DDJ

He’s gone from hating him (moving him around the OF, anywhere but CF), to realizing he’s by far our best OFer (thanks Elias and the Type A talk!). If we compete next year, DM can’t trade our best OFer!

I think an OF of Gordon, Maier, and DDJ would be pretty damn good. Just need to fix SS, 2B, and C, and I think that would be a .500 team (assuming Moose at 3b, Kila at DH).

by AxDxMx on Jul 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions

ya right KC is soooooo picking up Pods option

and probably flipping Gordon at the deadline

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by kcscoliny on Jul 17, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I may just give up on baseball if that happens.

by AxDxMx on Jul 17, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm Almost Rooting

For the ridiculous now; it’s entertaining in its own way, and it should hasten the collapse of the Moore regime.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 17, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions

We could trade Kendall and Pods

for Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dalí. Things would get real entertaining real quick. Ever see An Andalusian Dog? Really, don’t bother if you haven’t, unless you just like weird shit; it’s on YouTube. If you’re actually going to watch it you should probably drink some absinthe and smoke some opium first.

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by Juancho on Jul 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Root for other teams to do well.

I’m hoping the Rangers can do some damage…other than that I’m just rooting for DM to get fired and for Glass to have a revelation and hire someone who will at least admit that there could be something to this whole “sabermetrics” thing.

Killing time until time kills me

by EspeciallyK on Jul 17, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions