Eric Hosmer Appreciation Thread
Trying to be more positive...
Hosmer hit .354/.429/.545 in 87 games with Wilmington, and has done even better at NWA. He's had an awesome year. Let us show our appreciation.
- Hosmer or Moose?
- When does Hosmer make his MLB debut?
- What will his career peak look like?
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Hosmer vs Moose is a tough call
Hosmer has much better plate discipline, but Moose has better power, has more defensive value due to his position, and is closer to the Majors. Just from reading reports on their athleticism and defensive abilities, I’m guessing Hosmer will be a plus defender at 1B while Moose will be below average at 3B, so if it plays out that way, it might balance out Moose’s positional advantage a bit.
I guess I’ll take Hosmer. He doesn’t seem to have a weakness at the plate, while Moose could really stand to take a few more walks.
OT:
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by averagegatsby on Jul 20, 2010 8:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
stupid phone
George Brent was on Mike and Mike this morning. Pretty good 5 minutes or so, said how stupid the awarded double to Crisp was the other day, and had a funny Steinbrenner story… is also in favor of instant replay.
Also, as of today I’m more of a Moose fan, I’m sure that it will switch after eye brows puts up video game numbers at Arvest too.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 20, 2010 8:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1. Moose. I’m sick of 1st basemen and DHs.
2. 2012. That’s pretty early, but I think he’ll kill at AA and start next year at AAA, with a September callup.
3. I don’t know if his peak will be as long (since no steroids), but I’m thinking a 1B in the mold of Rafael Palmeiro (adjusted stats, not base counting stats).
wow
Palmeiro is a big comp. Big power numbers, solid production, good D… and a Leader! (i have no idea if Rafael was a leader)
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I think the rep on RafPal
was that he was always a “great guy” and a real “professional” which means he was quiet and followed the rules…
then he got caught/accused of steroids and he became a demon
One of the greatest moments of hubris and hypocrisy ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAxo4pCITRM
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 20, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I did add the caveat that it would be based on adjusted numbers, meaning the offensive era in which the player played. I don’t expect Hosmer to ever hit more than 40 homers, unless the baseball returns to that overall kind of level.
Also, added that I didn’t know if Hosmer’s peak is as long as Palmeiro’s, but I do think he could have that kind of season at least once.
It’s pretty lofty, I guess I based it more on them both having a nice easy swing.
P.S.
Thanks for at least trying to be positive. Heck, I’ll settle for just trying not to be negative.
by sfeldkamp on Jul 20, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
my guess
1. right now, I’ll go with Moose, but I actually think Hoz has a little higher ceiling and might be able to hit for a higher average with a lot of walks
2. August 2011—he’ll hit great at AAA and they will make room for him next summer
3. Will Clark with a little more power?
Yeah, been a while since we've had one of these.
1. MYERS!
2. Sept. 2011.
3. He was compared a lot to Casey Kotchman when he was drafted. I’m just saying. It happened.
In!!
1. Hosmer. I think his patience is his trump card over Moose. I think his power develops to be 90% of Moose’s so they may have similar OPSes but Hosmer’s will be more valuable. Plus, does he have the athleticism to move up the defensive spectrum?
2. June 2012
3. Best Case: Lance Berkman without the two seasons of 40+ HRs.
OK
I’ll go with Hosmer for overall value – but it’s close. Moose will be the one to break Balboni’s HR record, but won’t have as good an OBP as Hosmer, nor as much defensive value. Hosmer will develop enough power to make him a tick more valuable than Moose
Hosmer makes his debut in late 2011 (September callup?)
Comp? Let’s go with John Olerud, but with more power. I’d take that.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
In other minor league news
Heard that Gordon was inexplicably pulled from the game in the 7th inning last night, despite having 2 homers already. Can we dream something is in the works? Love to see him called up and playing the OF the rest of the season.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
you're right
Gordon had only 1 HR – but he was pulled after 7. I suppose it could have simply been for defense.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
Something in the works like a trade?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
A totally unscientific review of the stats...
…Shows that pretty obviously something is going on at Arvest this year. Almost every pitcher (Osuna is the outlier) is performing worse to much worse at home than on the road. Was there some construction near the ballpark that was completed in the offseason to change the wind patterns? Anything that might account for the shift (assuming that this shift did occur…) from a neutral ballpark to a hitters’ haven?
The sucking wind
from the north (ala KC) is still occurring! :) Dang, that was negative!
But maybe that wind has been neutralized by the power of Omaha this year!
No actual info from me on your question of physical changes, sorry.
I plan to head that way sometime this week or next...
I’ll ask the people of NW Ark.
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So far, in 2010, according to FirstInning, Midland is the best 1B park, Arvest leads the league for 2B, Midland is the only 3B-friendly park and Springfield has the best HR park.
Arvest is also in a 3-way tie for best as suppressing K’s and a different 3-way tie for producing BBs.
I’d say it’s a bit of a hitter’s park in what is usually a hitter’s league, but I recall thinking the same last year. I suspect those numbers are pretty much in line with the previous couple of years.
hm.
I was sure that my cursory view of the team’s pitchers’ home/road ERAs would settle the thing.
by billexgordler on Jul 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Royals win 80 games in 2014?
It’s looking more and more likely. God I love this team.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
Ok
1. Hosmer or Moose?
Hosmer
2. When does Hosmer make his MLB debut?
June 26, 2011
3. What will his career peak look like?
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After having attended a game at Wilmington
I’m not surprised these two had low power numbers in that stadium. It’s an EXTREME pitchers park. If you hit anything in the air from gap to gap it’s probably going to get caught. Not only does the wind keep it from carrying, it holds the ball up in the air and the outfields usually have no problem getting underneath the ball.
I think Hosmer will continue to be a beast in the Texas League. Moose will start next year in AAA and Hosmer will start in AA and then be moved halfway through the year. At least that’s the thought on my end. If Moose starts hitting the AAA pitching, he may get a cup of coffee in September. Of course it all depends on the roster status.
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by 306008 on Jul 20, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
All of you people who are merely putting "Hosmer"
will soon be warned by The Hos. As for those of you who went with someone besides The Hos, I weep for your futures. They will be short.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
Curious what this thread...
…would have looked like a week ago, before “The Hos”TM had 3 HRs in 4 games while Moose was being human in Omaha. We’re all susceptible to emotional swings…
I've been banging the Hos bandwagon since last season
by kcbottom9th on Jul 20, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The ENTIRE bandwagon?
You must be tired.
Hey ohhhh…I’ll be here all week.
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"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 20, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't been banging stuff
…but I’ve been a “The Hos”TM guy myself. Probably for bad or outdated reasons (plate discipline (good reason) and I seem to remember him being graded as one of the top hitting prospects in a few years) but I thought last year had enough extenuating circumstances that it could be pretty much ignored. And his year this season at Wilmington was much better than Mous’s at the same age…
by billexgordler on Jul 20, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was a little worried about Hos last year
but there were extenuating circumstances, and I felt the bust label was a little early to be put out there. Was hoping for a comeback season, but this has been better than hoped.
Seriously
Trade Butler for a dependable starting pitcher. Butler lacks the raw power at first and will likely have good value for a team in need of a 3 hitter.
Giants, Braves possible
Trade Callaspo for a couple of young relievers. The Royals can improve the depth of the bullpen in one trade.
Jays, Reds possible
Trade Guillen to an AL team for a tweener farm hand. A 25 year old guy, anything.
Yankees, Drays possible
Trade Podsednik for cash considerations and a mid level prospect. Pods has a winning attitude, speed and veteran leadership. He has some value.
A’s, Padres, White Sox possible
Trade Kyle Davies or Brian Bannister for anything….a young OF or MI would be nice.
Mets possible
Call ups
Gordon, Ka’aihue, Hosmer, Moustakas, Humber.
Lineup
DDJ – LF
Maier CF
Gordon RF
Ka’aihue DH
Moustakas 3B
Hosmer 1B
Aviles 2B
Pena C
Betancourt SS
You'd really call up Hosmer now?
And Moose?
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 20, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
MUST GET TO 75 WINS IN 2010
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"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 20, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
let’s let them rot in the minors until they are 25
by Peterman700 on Jul 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
He’s going to be 19 in two years. What are we wasting all that talent for?
It's all ball bearings these days!
by CentralChamps20?? on Jul 20, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Moose
1. Moose. In the video I’ve seen Moose seems to have a much faster bat. I don’t think the power difference will be negligable.
2. August 1, 2011
3. Billy Butler with a little more power a little less average.
I'll take
The HosMobile (worried about the AA SSS and park factors for Mousse Top-O)
September 2011
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
my condolences, re the member name
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 20, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hosmer
While Moose broke out this yr he only had like 5 HRs on the road and all his numbers are considerably worse away from home. Moose will be a great player, especially if starts to walk more and… to be honest… hits homers and drives in runs
…but… hoz has higher potential. Look in the Futures All Star game, hoz was a star. And oh yeah… HE’S 20 YEARS OLD. This guy is going to get good, fast.
Both up by season’s end 2011.
Moose
1. Moose
2. Opening day, 2012
3. Mount Everest
I've got to say
1. Hosmer, Moose won’t last too long in the majors if he can’t develop more discipline against minor league pitching.
2. 2012, Mid summer.
3. .280/.365/.500 and an average glove at first
1. The Hos
2. Tomorrow
3. Mickey Mantle
by NotAHippie on Jul 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
now that’s what a Eric Hosmer Appreciation Thread is all about
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even close!
Hosmer by a landslide! Moose #1 atribute is his bat speed, but it is a double edge sword. His bat is so fast that he pulls everything that will probably be hard for him to stay back on balls and use the whole field as well as be disciplined @ the plate. On the other hand Hos is patient, uses the whole field, & will most likely hit for power.
I see Moose as a clutch but pull-happy power hitter. Moose will probably have the shift put on him.
I see Hos as the complete hitter, but the only question I have on him is will he be clutch…
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jul 20, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
We interrupt this adulation-fest
with a query: was there some talk at one time that Da Hoz might be moveable to the OF? Has any notion of that been abandoned, or is that still possible?
I’m glad he got promoted to NW Ark before my road trip there in a couple of weeks. I wanted to see at least either Moose or Hoz and was worried when Moose got promoted.
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by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 20, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
I haven't heard anyone say that the Hos to OF idea is abandoned
just not a pressing issue. Seems like they should investigate, though, if nothing else b/c a guy who can play 1B/LF/RF is more valuable than a guy who can only play 1B.
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 20, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hosmer
1.Going to go with Hosmer, got to go down to NWA this weekend and he looked great.
2.June 2011
3. Hopefully not Wally Joyner
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by Hanging Brainister on Jul 20, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
was this like billy or gordon?
i didnt follow the minors then…
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