BREAKING: Royals Trade Alberto Callaspo To Anaheim In Exchange For Sean O'Sullivan And Will Smith
by Freneau on Jul 23, 2010 12:45 AM EDT
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Either Jeff or I will have another post up on this at some point, but for now... farewell Alberto Callaspo. In the end, for me, you became extremely annoying.
- Sean O'Sullivan immediately steps in and becomes the most Irish-sounding guy on the roster. (B-R page here) He is a 22 year old pitcher.
- Will Smith is 20. He is from Georgia. (B-R page here)
Pointless instant verdict #1: well, alright, I guess. I don't know. Stay tuned.
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I don't get it.
I don’t see why the main guy in the deal is a reliever, and Smith looks like he sucks (please tell me I’m wrong).
He beat the Yankees line up just a few days ago and recorded the W
his only start this year as a staring pitcher in a game.
I hate the Texas Rangers
They way to look at this is
If O’Sullivan is > Lerew, Chen, Davies or Banny
This is a win. Lets face it our starters are shitty right now
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Royals just assured themselves years of getting jiggy wit it
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by Top Ramen on Jul 22, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
More stupid jokes...
Can we please nicknamel Sean O’Sullivan, DJ Jazzy Jeff, in honor of his being traded to us with The Fresh Prince?
by AxDxMx on Jul 22, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I rec'd
Top Ramen’s post just to annoy you. ;)
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
Annoying me?
I figured there’d be a whole list of stupid jokes underneath my post, that’s what I was going for.
I like it....
young, cheap, capablish SP. I’m all about dealing this sucky roster.
more Wilson Betimit this way?
Smith looks like he is going to be really good.
A 20 year old who got moved up fast to fill for some spot starts it looks like…Strong K:BB ratio the previous two years… I’ll look over it and put up an official opinion later. :)
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3 levels in one year for this guy
Put him in A+ for the rest of the season and let him work with Lamb
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
3 levels in one year for this guy
Put him in A+ for the rest of the season and let him work with Lamb
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
That's kind of what I was thinkng....
He should finish the year at A+ Wilmington and work with Luebber.
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I like this move as I've said before if you
can turn around and move Bannister, Farnsworth, Guillen and DDJ. O’Sullivan can take over for Brian in the 5th spot
Checkout Royals minor league notes at www.14for77.blogspot.com
Ok, now what are we going to do at 3rd base?
We know they won’t let Gordon come back.
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Aviles at 3B and Getz at 2B.
I say we try that for some time and see what happens.
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Maybe some Betemit.
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I'm fine with Betemit the rest of the year
He’s not a great player, but he’s servicable and we aren’t going to the postseason. So, I would let him have it.
Fire Dayton Moore Now!!!!!!!!!
by royaldaddy on Jul 22, 2010 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he could be easily had next season as well as the place holder for Moose's June callup
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
You guys easily won this deal
SOS is never gonna be more than a 4th or 5th starter but Will Smith has the chance to be really good someday.
Torii Hunter has some Brain Movage
Why would the Angels sell on Smith low?
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first he was in Philly, then all of a sudden he's in Bel Air...
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 22, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like it...
Callaspo was going to be w/o a spot next year and we need some serious help in our rotation immediately. Two young arms are good enough for me.
Needs this too
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by Top Ramen on Jul 22, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I feel better about the Fresh Prince jokes after finding out that the Will Smith we acquired is a white dude
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the Georgia thing increased the odds
I think the percentage of African-Americans in Baseball of non-Southern players is even smaller than the overall average
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I heard that Torii Hunter
was pissed at him during ST for pretending to be black
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Jul 22, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I wonder if the Akiel move
coincided with this one.
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I would assume so.
That opens a roster spot for him to come on up. Maybe that’s why everyone hinted that it would be today…b ut they really had the trade insight?
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It also coincided
w/ needing an emergency starter…wonder of the Irish guy will fill that role
BOOM! ROASTED!
I knew there was a critical spirit lurking in there somewhere
He is from Georgia
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 22, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
he knows what winning baseball looks like
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So Does Villacis
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 23, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If You Needed
Any further proof Will is gay……….
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 23, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Will, please update this post to show that Will Smith is a lefty.
Surprise, surprise.
I think the Royals have cornered the market on lefties.
Do I detect the makings of a quality Major League trade/acquisition???
Let us hope this is the first of many dominoes to fall in the coming days.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Jul 22, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Sean O'Sullivan=poor man's Kyle Davies
at one point highly thought of prospect in HS, been pretty mediocre in the minors. We picked up 2 pitchers who Baseball America described as having #4 SP upside. Maybe Smith has a little bit higher upside—its hard to tell from the way he’s been jerked around this year.
by nwroyal on Jul 22, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not a bad exchange for Bert though, considering
And not so terrible case scenario, if both these guys end up being solid relievers, then I won’t be shedding any tears over this move.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Jul 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
THis guy better be better than Davies
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but he better be better than betemit 5 times fast
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 22, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
but he better be better than betemit
but he better be better than betemit
but he butter the batter his betemit
but the better the butter in betemit
but we’ll better his butter on betemit
Damn, so close.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 23, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I would be happy with anyone who is better than our current #4 and #5
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 23, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not high on this trade
For one reason only:
What am I going to do without my Bert GIFs???
Bert GIF-bomb, please? Anyone? Anyone?
by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on Jul 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
A note about Sean O'Sullivan's numbers:
He pitched at Salt Lake, the minor league stadium most in need of a humidor. He is better than his AAA numbers indicate.
Looks like a big boy trade by GMDM
Not the typical deck chair shuffling or face palming we’re accustomed to.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Jul 22, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say Vegas or Albuquerque has those honors but close
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yeah, farewell Bert
do people think he had higher value last year though? I’m actually content with this trade as of right now.
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when both teams fans don't like the trade
it’s probably fair.
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by doublestix on Jul 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I really like this trade.
She thinks she missed the train to Mars; she's out back counting stars.
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 22, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
Do I like this trade more than I .....
don’t like it?
I am at a loss.
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 22, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
This probably doesn't mean much
but I saw Sean O’Sullivan pitch several times in low A ball (Cedar Rapids) and was extremely impressed. At age 19 he put up really solid numbers in the Midwest League and just looked like a future MLB pitcher. His numbers since then have not been as good, but he looked to have all the tools and he is still young.
Trade was fair
Bert’s true ability probably lies somewhere between 2009 and 2010 performances. Two young arms, even if the ceiling is only a #3 or #4 starter, is certainly fair. There’s a small chance O’Sullivan could prove better than that. It is fairly impressive just making the majors at his age, FWIW.
At the very least, this trade finally fits the “building for the future” profile we have been demanding of Dayton for some time.
One thing that I like a lot – an apparent emphasis on prospects that don’t walk batters. That’s a good start towards being at least an avg ML pitcher.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
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by loyal2sdad on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, we needed some #3 and #4 starter prospects.
All the other guys we have project out at #1 and #2 starters. You can’t start 5 of those!! Now, we just need to trade/draft some #5 starters.
by Chyladin on Jul 22, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that made me laugh....a lot
love it when people use jokes they don’t understand, and then admit to it….classic!
Agree...
…100% on not walking batters and trading for the future.
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
Sickels last year
20) Will Smith, LHP, Grade C+: Didn’t dominate the Midwest League like he dominated the Pioneer League in ’08, but he throws strikes and knows how to pitch. People are probably overcorrecting: he was overrated last year but perhaps underrated now.
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I like it
While I was quite entertained by Bert last season (and during his glory days on S. Street), I grew tired of his poor fielding and propensity to swing freely this season.
A couple of marginal arms with some upsides seems pretty sweet to me.
I once had hope...now I have Moore.
I don't get it. Jayden Smith is the hot commodity in the Smith family now
why would we go after a washed up has been like Will Smith? Oh yeah we’re the Royals. Even in joking plays on names we choose the old veteran with fading skills.
I took the trade from Fangraphs with DF on vacation
Here is my take:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-alberto-callaspo-trade-royals-perspective/
I like the trade in a nutshell, depends what else goes down.
- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …
Sounds like the Teahen trade...
“I like it depending on what other moves happen.”
Nothing else happened. I’m concerned…
Callaspo is absolutely the type of player the Angels love.
He’s got a little Chone in him. They love these small, quick hands, hitty types.
supposed to be in the game thread
would be just as nonsensical though.
Carry on…
Also, Bloomquist scored.
A very meh trade
I had high hopes for Callaspo and his stock has really dropped this season. The Royals traded him because the SS of the fairly near future is Moustakas and because they are probably content with Aviles/Getz/whoever at 2B. So they traded him for a couple of ok pitching prospects. I don’t see either prospect as a particularly high ceiling pitcher, but at least they are young.
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How well do O'Sullivan and Smith project
as bullpen arms?
Smith better than you think
The Minor League Baseball Analyst has Smith as Angels #11 prospect at start of season, ranked as an 8C (50% change to be just short of an elite play-solid contributer and projected upside as a #3 starter.
John Sickels had him ranked as a C+ (equivalent of above rating, "finese lefty prototype", an improvement to his change up would significantly improve his upside. He’s just turning 21.
Those are the 2 best minor league analysts in the buissness so I’m good with Smith being a part of the deal, O"sullivan also still young may be MLB filler better than Lagrew et all but does add depth to the staff. Could we have gotten more? maybe but not much more. Brandon Woods would have been an interesting get to see if change of scenary made a difference. It’s not horrible-it’s ok
Both pitchers especially Smith has upside
generally how i feel
Smith is the guy that could make this a real win for us. i don’t know the whole story here, but i think he’d more highly thought of if the Angels hadn’t jerked him around through 3 different levels this year. Royals are doing the right thing here sending him to Wilmington.
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Just got done reading the Angel's reactions
The seem generally mad. Here is a classic quote:
Worst part is being fleeced by Dayton Moore. If you can’t get more talent than you trade from him, you have no chance against anyone else. So until we get a better GM – no more trades.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jul 22, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Are the Angels fans as picky as their last GM about trading talent?
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After reading and some thoughts, I'm fine with this move.
Agree 100% with Jeff Z @ Fangraphs:
They will allow the Royals highly touted prospects to stay in the minors and progress to the majors without a jumping a level.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Good trade....
Will Smith was in the Angels top prospect list… I’ve seen him pitch – he’s fast, and when he’s on, he’s hot. He’ll be MLB ready in about 3 years.
Gut reaction:
Goodbye Bert, you over performed in some areas (power, 3B defense) and massively under performed in others (OBP, 2B defense, baserunning). As Will said, in the end, you did get annoying. And you really weren’t in our long-term plans. But you will eventually be remembered fondly, I’m sure.
I know nothing about who we got in return. Time for some research, I guess.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
Will Smith needed a change of scenery.
The wild, wild west just wasn’t working out for him. Kansas City should really be an interesting summertime opportunity for him.
I just hope this isn’t the first part of a three-team trade with Miami.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
He will start for us and pitch a no hitter on some future Independence Day
And his pursuit of happyness will bring us to the World Series where he’ll knock people out like he was Ali. As he wins game 7 he will raise his arms and shout to the heavens, “I am Legend!”
how did you not mention West Philadelphia
when talking about a change of scenery?
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And all shootin’ some b-ball outside the school.
When a couple of guys that were up to no good
Started makin’ trouble in my neighborhood.
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared.
She said, “You’re movin’ in with your auntie and uncle in KC.”
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 23, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Just taking a look to see how Royal fans are reacting to the trade
and I nearly lost it laughing at this comment. Well done.
Red Hudler > Rodger Lodge
by Teixeira Who? on Jul 24, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Two relatively sucky pitchers
That’s what they look like to me. I don’t even see good peripherals. Am I wrong here? Basically the Elmer Dessens trade all over again (Blake Johnson and Julio Pimental). I yawned while writing this.
by jackie ballgame on Jul 23, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
dessens was a brilliant trade actually
because we took back odie perez to get better prospects
it was a fairly creative deal… back when dayton was mildly interesting
Sucky?
You have two very young guys for their respective levels.
Will Smith is particularly interesting to me. O’Sullivan looks like a #5 guy currently, but given some development he might profile as a 3/4. Plenty of time for both guys and cheap contracts, and, as pitchers, they might actually see the field in 2012, unlike Callaspo (who was going to take a backseat to Moose).
I think this is a key
Before the season, Callaspo’s spot was already in question. The Alex Gordon Saga sorted that out, but once Moose makes the jump (likely next year earlier than later) Callaspo will again be without a position. Might as well get some more pitching stock and hand off a player that will soon be obsolete.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 23, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
And he's not a player who is more useful to another team.
As a poor defensive infielder (setting 3B and 1B aside), Callaspo must be hitting well to justify a spot on the active roster. He doesn’t have the power to be a DH, or the ability to play multiple positions to be useful as a utility guy. He is your everyday 3B.
The Royals have two players I’d rather have at 3B everyday starting next year. Easy decision (and not a situation where Callaspo is forced out due to the depth of the Royals system at 3B either). It’s a poor, poor team where Alberto Callaspo is deemed the everyday 3B of the future.
Edit: he’s clearly more valuable to a team with absolutely no 3B options.
Just saying he’s not a guy who gives you a lot of options, which is bad for an IF with a lifetime .738 OPS
Yeah, for sure
When their “3B of the future” Brandon Wood has an OPS of .411 (I’m serious. His OPS has never been over .559, look), Bert has the look of someone that could definitely provide some offensive assistance. I’m glad that he can be looked on in that light, though. I don’t know what the Halo fans think or what their system looks like, but his .718 OPS is enough for me to say he’ll be, at the very least, a solid offensive improvement at the position. And maybe the Angels can work some magic and get him to hitting back to last season, too. Who knows.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 23, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions
O'Sullivan
has never struck out a lot of guys at any level. Either he’s going to have the same K/9 numbers for every level, which could be passable, or he’s gonna flop as a starter and become a reliever. Considering the current batch of acclaimed prospects, if O’Sullivan is starting in 2012, then things have went horribly wrong.
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Gut reaction: meh?
I’m not really sorry to see Callaspo go. The pitchers we got in return are mildly interesting, but not exceedingly so. Smith could be interesting in a year or so. I can’t see O’Sullivan holding a rotation spot long term, although he may eventually allow the team to get Kyle Davies out to the bullpen.
Biggest question coming from the trade: If pitching is the currency of baseball, when do we start spending it on some bats?
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When we're a little more sure of what we have?
I’d think you’d like to see some of those arms be a little closer to MLB-ready before beginning the dealing process, if only to have more of an idea who you plan to build on and who might be expendable.
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by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 23, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If you wait until you know who is expendable
other teams recognize the limited ceilings of the pieces you’re trying to trade.
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