Judging Judging The Royals judgment system

by Crooow on Jul 24, 2010 10:33 AM EDT

I know this has probably been mentioned here before, but this Lee Judge guy or whoever....man.

Check out the rating system (http://royals.kansascity.com/about/). I...I'm speechless. Is this guy getting paid actual money? Is he being willfully ignorant? Or are parts of the sports media THIS FUCKING CLUELESS ABOUT THE GAME OF BASEBALL?

A sacrifice bunt is worth the same as a double?

A save is worth the same as a complete game?

An RBI is worth the same as a triple?

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Yuni should bat some place other than 9th

Given enough velocity even a pig will fly

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 24, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions

Um. It's state of the art.

…from 35 years ago. Sort of like floppy disks. It’s the equivalent of looking at ads in back issues of Nat’l Geographic.

by billexgordler on Jul 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions

Or are parts of the sports media THIS FUCKING CLUELESS ABOUT THE GAME OF BASEBALL?

Sadly, yes.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions

His "top performers" list is pretty indicative of the worthlessness of his system.

by Crooow on Jul 24, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions

Coach Ron Polk!

Polk is the winningest coach in the history of the Southeastern Conference. He’s a member of both the College Baseball Hall of Fame and the American Baseball Coaches Association Hall of Fame. He ranks seventh all- time in NCAA career head coaching victories. In his career, which included stints at Mississippi State, Georgia Southern and Georgia, he led his teams to eight College World Series appearances, five SEC championships and 23 Regional appearances.

He was also named National Coach of the Year three times. In 35 years of coaching, Polk produced 35 All-Americans, more than 75 All SEC-performers and 21 major leaguers including Will Clark, Jeff Brantley, Rafael Palmeiro, Bobby Thigpen and Jonathan Papelbon. Polk has completed seven tours as a member of the coaching staff of the USA National Baseball Team and two of the teams he coached represented the United States in the Olympics. His "Baseball Playbook" (available on-line) has sold more than 100,000 copies and is considered by many as the book on running a baseball program. He’s currently serving as a volunteer coach at the University of Alabama-Birmingham.

Suck it saber-nerds!

by kcbottom9th on Jul 24, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

hahahahahaha

very nice

by Crooow on Jul 24, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I really thought Ron Polk was made up for a few minutes

when looking through all that at the beginning of the season. Especially since Lee Judge is a cartoonist for the star, I entertained the thought that I was reading the most brilliant satire I had ever seen. Sadly, no.

I will still say I enjoy his game writeups. Throwing out the crazy on who is valuable and why, someone who has apparently made baseball coaching his passionate hobby actually talking in depth about what coaches and managers do and think about is interesting to me.

by lionsden on Jul 26, 2010 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions

I love how Coach Polk’s system is full of objective “judgment calls,” so there’s no reason to think that someone else using the system would arrive at the same conclusions as Lee Judge. That’s the real beauty of this thing……it can’t be wrong because it’s entirely irreproducible.

Kendall lost a point last night for a passed ball, but gained eight points by blocking a pitch with his body. Why? Because, in Judge’s estimation, the block was an “outstanding defensive play.”

by kcemigre on Jul 24, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions

But it's statistics!

There are POINTS involved! Why can’t you understand that? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??!!

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

This is genius

C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell

by averagegatsby on Jul 24, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

But he knows Russ Mormon

really that’s his justification if you challenge him he’ll rationalize his experience playing over 40 baseball in a beer league and talking to Russ Mormon about the finer points of the game- and that’s his trump

by ribman on Jul 24, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions

Compared to WAR

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by Warden11 on Jul 24, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

rec'd

It looks like he’s got three groupings (more or less). The bottom left corner seems relatively correct where bad players get low Polk Point totals, maybe b/c of low playing time. At the top right corner, the three highest WAR players also have the highest Polk totals, though not in ascending order. Then there’s the middle group; absolutely no correlation whatsoever for the 15 or so players with WAR b/t 0 and 2 (or thereabouts).

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions