Royals & Mets Working On Megadeal Of Fail
@Ken_Rosenthal #Mets talking to #Royals. Names in play from Royals: Meche, Farnsworth, Guillen. From Mets: O. Perez, L. Castillo, Francoeur. (more)
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There are no winners, for sure
but in the end everyone loses.
Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!
there ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys
there’s only you and me, and we just disagree… on the level of fail that accompanies this
batter nine you sucky
But I'd say it's a pretty fair deal, regardless of suck.
I just think Meche is done being a solid 1,2,3 pitcher.
Meche and Perez salaries match
Farnsy and Frenchy salaries match.
Guillen and Castillo – fairly close I think.
Don’t know about years.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 25, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo is signed through next year.
That’s the part I don’t like.
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Ring
Omar: HEY DAYTON ITS OMAR
Dayton: Talk to me
Omar: I GOT A BIG BAG OF SHIT WHADDYA GOT
Dayton: A similarly large bag of shit
Omar: LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN
Dayton: Done
by drdonkeypunch on Jul 25, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Not accurate at all...
Because neither of those guys think any of those guys are shit
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by averagegatsby on Jul 25, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAH
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 26, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is hilarious.
Rec to you sir for making my weekend.
If they trade for Francouer I think I'm done
I’ll go watch the ORoyals but a Frenchy trade probably means the end of Gordon, who while I’m definitely not sold on is way better than Frenchy.
I wouldn’t mind a Guillen for Frenchy move straight up if it was nothing more than a salary swap and Frenchy wasn’t going to be resigned(ya right) but a Meche-Perez deal is dumb, taking on Castillo is ignorant and giving up Farnsworth for nothing when he is an actual commodity at this time is FUCKING RETARDED.
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Anything that FINALLY forces the Royals to give Kila a real chance is fine by me
Also, I know Francoeur mostly sucks – but our OF is completely lopsided with LH bats. Used properly, he might be tolerable placeholder for a year or two.
"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009
"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876
The Royals won't use him that way
They would play him everyday, rather than as a platoon.
Yuni made a nice play, so now he doesn't suck anymore. Great.
The Lesser Half
Of a platoon is the only way he plays well (career LHP split .300 .343 .479 .822), and even then he’s hardly overwhelming.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
There's zero chance that the Royals would include Kila …
… because in some weird way I think they actually think of him as “the future”.
But then there’s zero chance the Royals will give time to Kila because they don’t think he “ready” yet.
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by Steve Nelson on Jul 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't know it was possible to trade Meche and Guillen and get WORSE
Perez is just as bad as Meche, and getting paid $12M in 2011
Francoeur is arb-eligible and due $6M-ish
Luis Castillo is the shittiest $6M man in baseball until Francoeur gets that raise.
If we’re looking to do a shitty pitcher for shitty pitcher, shitty outfielder for shitty outfielder, spare part for spare part trade, how about Meche/Guillen/Farnsworth for Perez/Beltran/Francoeur, followed by moving Podsednik to an AL East team
You know Dayton is looking for any opening to find a full-time DH for 2011
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The point...
is not to break even on talent and money. The point is to SAVE money and not block our prospects from getting to the big leagues.
Yuni made a nice play, so now he doesn't suck anymore. Great.
Meche makes $12 million the last two years.
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But
we wouldn’t be getting worse.
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So why again are we training commodities that might get us something (even if it is just a C prospect)
For a bag of crap? I mean, I know our guys are a bag of crap but why do we have to trade them for the Mets poo poo(sic) platter?
It's like a fan desperately trying to concoct a way to get rid of their team's trash in an mlbtraderumors comment

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by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Jul 25, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Minaya was the guy who made the Kazmir for Zambrano deal, right?
just saying.. Farnsworth for Dillon Gee
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No
That was Jim Duquette, or Jim Something-or-other.
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by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 25, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
holy fuck.....
I shouldn’t be naive, but I just can’t see this…..crap for crap….I don’t think much of GMDM, but he’s not this dumb….any of these straight up would be almost palatable if you squinted real hard, (Guillen for Frenchie, we get younger, Perez for Meche, same, Farny for Castillo…No….the real issue is blocking guys like Kila or Gordon, or in other words, what happened this year)….should be a interesting week….lets hope it isn’t tragic.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Jul 25, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
It's not the same.
We want to unload salaries, not replace them with equally worthless contracts.
Yuni made a nice play, so now he doesn't suck anymore. Great.
yeah
DM isn’t gonna chop payroll that quickly
granted, DM’s spending of money does justify him being handcuffed on the ML payroll
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This deal makes zero sense for either side...
I don’t get any upside for either group. And this move only guarantees that Kila will never wear a Royals uniform again.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
either side? please it makes tons of sense for the Mets
Meche is better than Perez, Guillen and Farny are decent rental options…GMDM should be assassinated if this goes down.
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by kcscoliny on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Assassination would be going way too far
But if anyone has any pals in the CIA, maybe we can spirit him off to one of those secret prisons in like Romania where they stick terrorists they have no good evidence against. Or if anyone has any pals on the other side, they could kidnap Dayton, ship him off to South Waziristan, and hold him incommunicado in a cave for a few years.
If we get real lucky Osama will take him on as a top advisor, and Al Qaeda will be wiped out within months, as Dayton continually sends out failed suicide bombers who were never any good on the major-league jobs, while holding the up-and-coming young terror brigades in the minor leagues up in Afghanistan.
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inb4 kcscoliny is arrested
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I don't want to read to much into the Rosenthal tweet.
But he says the Mets are talking to the Royals. Maybe the Mets are initiating contact and the Royals are just listening. Everyone knows that Guillen and Farnsy are available and it would appear the Meche might be also. Maybe this is what the Mets offered the Royals. In a perfect world, another interested party might drive up the price a little for these pieces in a trade to a different team.
That’s all I got.
Love your name for this potential deal...
It truly would be a megadeal of fail…
by cookierojas73 on Jul 25, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This site may meltdown if we get Francoeur...
Let alone Perez/Castillo…
we get to send Gordon back to AAA for more seasoning
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Why does my baseball fandom feel more like mad magazine
With dayton and Omar being a spy vs spy goldmine?
by wildthang on Jul 25, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would Perez for Meche be that bad?
They have the same contract. We know Meche is done, maybe Perez bounces back for half a season in a new environment and then we can move him next July.
Any bounce back he would have...
would be offset by switching leagues.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Perez is getting $12M and is worse than Meche
how the fuck did Oliver Perez ever get $12M?
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We will finally see
what happens when a stoppable force collides with a movable object
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by TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect on Jul 25, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
Having these Premiere League teams play MLS teams IS GENIUS!
I may have to check the British papers for their reaction to Man U losing to KC Wiz
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
It's just a friendly, and Man U played mostly their second string
Don’t read anything into it.
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Oh I know... And I said something along the lines...
The Wiz beating this version of Man U would be like the Royals beating the Yankees without having Teixiera, Cano, and Jeter.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 26, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Castillo only makes sense if
DM thinks that winning teams are only built by getting lots of crappy vets who have World Series rings
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by averagegatsby on Jul 25, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

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by AtTheWall on Jul 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
No - it's a tarp

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by Steve Nelson on Jul 25, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I Like That
Way too much. Blue tarps are an institution in Alaska.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm okay with parts of the deal
However, I don’t want to add Castillo’s contract through 2011. Perez for Meche, big deal. We’d probably get more out of Perez than we will Meche because I still think Meche’s labrum is about to go…. Farnsi for Francouer… um… unless we can get more, why not?
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by philofthenorth on Jul 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Royals leaked this to Rosenthal to drive up the prices for
JoGui, Meche, and Farnsi… gotta be, right?
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or to make any other deal look like a win
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A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies
It all makes sense!
The problem is that I'm totally baffled about how to raze Dayton
Because the matter of what is the most direct and requires the fewest assumptions totally depends on what assumptions about Dayton you start with.
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by Steve Nelson on Jul 25, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Alternate horrifying perspective
Dayton has given up trying to reassemble the 2005 Mariners and is trying to instead make a team of 2007 NL East castoffs.
Too be fair these guys were good in 2007. Which incidentally is also the last year that any of them were above average.
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~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.
MIKE LOWELL NOW!!!
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by averagegatsby on Jul 25, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Now We're Talkin'
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
NY guy tweeted this
http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/images/22/e2/1798989/original_image.png?1280098175
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crap. Wrong link.
7:33pm: Talks between the Mets and Royals are fluid, though it doesn’t appear that Guillen will be headed to Queens, says Andy Martino of the New York Daily News (via Twitter). It seems that if Guillen is dealt elsewhere, then Kansas City would be interested in Francoeur, Martino adds (via Twitter).
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The way it looks....
The Royals are exploring getting Francouer when they trade JoGui. That would be the end of Mitch… correct?
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It would surely be the end of me...
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It would be the end of me as in I'm sick of it
Pods, Guillen, Frenchy, Ankiel, Mitch, Gordon, Bloomquist looks like this probably
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Getting Francouer just means that I'm gonna be focusing on my OOTP game a lot more..
and ignoring “real” baseball a lot more….acquiring Frenchy is absolutely unacceptable under ANY conditions
Killing time until time kills me
At least we can have faith that
this team can take a player with a poor approach at the plate and improve it.
If you don't get fired for trading something of value for Yuniesky Betancourt..
…then you ain’t getting fired unless you bang the owner’s wife in front of him while kicking his dog.
Killing time until time kills me
Just Say "Net"
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by philofthenorth on Jul 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Positive spin
Someone has to provide some realistic optimism here.
Oliver Perez is 3 years young than Gil Meche and is a left handed starter. In my opinion, regardless of current production, the Royals win this.
Perez throws harder, and again, a southpaw, and three years younger.
Guillen vs. Francoeur
Guillen is an old, lazy bum who can’t run and sucks.
Francoeur is a better fielder, is 8 years younger than Guillen and can still hit, maybe he just needs a change of scenery?
Luis Castillo vs Kyle Farnsworth
Really no idea why this is being considered, but a healthy Castillo would be a huge upgrade over Getz.
The Royals should be after a prospect for Farnsworth.
can still hit?
then why the fuck hasn’t he hit since 2007?
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When my future wife is in bed with my fat mailman in five years, I'll come to you so you can tell me that she was probably just practicing some new tricks so she can try them with me and just didn't want to do them with me until she got it right...
Good god dude that post is not even CLOSE.
Killing time until time kills me
by EspeciallyK on Jul 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah
totally false
everything i said there is true.
by Peterman700 on Jul 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the number of changes of scenery equal to the number of positions Gordon needs to try
so they both can hit, if so maybe KC is on to something. Or they have another pile of crap
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I guess visiting every NL city over the course of the year isn't enough.
Frenchy just needs to see all the AL cities before this “change of scenery” effect sets in.
i hear ya
he’s still young enough to improve.
that’s all i’m saying.
by Peterman700 on Jul 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, 800 games and 3300 PAs isn't enough to prove who he is yet
People want to bury Alex Gordon for 348 games and 1400 plate appearances, you really think Frenchy can improve? I suppose he could always learn how to suck more efficiently.
Mailmen are usually fairly skinny
They do a lot of walking…
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I was reading this thread and just waiting for you to dive in
And you didn’t disappoint, either. Very nice.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 26, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Player A, 2007 to 2010: .267/.312/.405, stats per 162 are 111K/36 BB, 16 HR, 35 doubles
Player B, 2007 to 2010: .247/.330/.410, stats per 162 are 144K/64 BB, 18 HR, 37 doubles
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B's got a nice OBP for such a bad average.
Makes me think he’s salvageable, especially because part of the problem there is an injury history.
Bring it. Nothing is throwing me at this point.
Franceour? Fine. Let’s get it done. We’ll all share some laughs, and really whats the harm? Did any of you think the eventual replacements Dayton found for our current scrubs were actually going to be good?
Whoever he brings in is going to be old and bad anyway, so why not Franceour? Wouldn’t that at least give a weird kind of satisfaction? Like, we knew this was going to happen.
That's supposed to be worst case scenario joke, not weirdly satisfying.
This is it. This is worst case scenario, and we have the worst GM in baseball.
shouldn't the Astros GM have a strong case for worst GM too?
how the fuck do you have that bad of an offensive team in a bandbox?
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you
really are a negative person.
all you do is complain and whine.
by Peterman700 on Jul 25, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
9/10
on this site are negative people. Who only know about sabermetrics and have no actual baseball knowledge from actually playing the game. Unless its on their Xbox. FACT
Your killin me smalls....
by royalblue69 on Jul 25, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Frenchy sucks on XBox too but his OBP is more acceptable there than it is in real life
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Yeah, is there really anyone who can take a walk in a video game?
I just go up there Royally hacking at the first pitch all the time.
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I always take first pitch...
But rarely do I have an inning where I see more than 10 pitches
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by averagegatsby on Jul 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I've slowly upped my average to about 15 pitches per inning.
I look mostly fastball, but a changeup or curveball that hangs is getting mashed out of the yard. You have to be really patient and not be afraid to hit with 2 strikes.
I had Billy challenging a .400 batting average for a while
but then went on a 1-14 streak that killed it. Burrell has 68 HR’s so far with about 12 games left. I was able to get him straight up for Guillen.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I simmed to 2013
The prospects are starting to break through. I had Gordon batting .374 til he went down with injury for 3 weeks. He’s back, but his average is down to .350. My payroll is under $90M and I’m in first by 7 games after bringing up the rear of the division in 2010,11,and 12.
Well, it's hard not to be negative
when your team has had one winning season in the last 20 years and is currently playing about .430 baseball, one game above last place in the division. And when your general manager seems more interested in bringing zombie players back from the dead than giving still-human players a chance to keep their brains intact without being eaten, it’s even harder.
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Yeah, why could we POSSIBLY be negative all the time about the Royals
I mean..we have two really good players, what more can we want!?!?!!?
Killing time until time kills me
To be fair
We are trained to be negative. If Moore had done anything to teach us that he learns from errors and won’t repeat them, we might feel differently. It’s like you’re driving down a hill at 100 mph and your brakes go out – you’re screwed and there’s nothing you can do about it but watch it happen.
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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 26, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you can understand this (no sabermetrics allowed)
Perez has had an ERA under 5.47 4 times in his career: 2002,2004,2007,2008
Perez’s ERA has been 6.82 and 6.15 for 2009 and 2010. You hate Kyle Davies, but you want to give this guy a chance? Davies at least has his 2009/10 ERA under 6.
People hated Teahen because of the promise he flashed, and then gave us nothing. Teahen is 28 years old now, 2 years older than Frenchy. Let’s compare Teahen and Francouer’s batting lines.
Teahen: .268/.331/.417
Frenchy: .269/.310/.426
Batting average is essentially the same, Teahen loses a bit in SLG to Francouer, but beats him easily in OBP. If you hated Teahen, you’ll hate Francouer just as much. Teahen is older, but Francouer has almost 400 more plate appearances!
Remind me again why we want to trade for more of the crap we’ve already had?
Sorry, OBP and SLG is sabermetrics to Frenchy defenders.
but your AVG argument still stands!
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Frenchy is the OF version of Yuniesky
terrible range with occasional flash, with a terrible OBP.
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by averagegatsby on Jul 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Good God
Where do these people come from? Facebook?
Out of curiosity, if you have a heart attack someday, which of the following are you going to consult to diagnose your situation and to perform surgery on you?
A) A cardiologist
B) A person who had a heart attack
If A, why?
by D.Szymborski on Jul 26, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ideally
A cardiologist who is also a member of Bill Swerski’s Superfans.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 26, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm mainly thinking of the laughs I'll have reading about Franceour on this and other sites
And if you really want Dayton gone, predictable, embarrassing moves should be good, no? Eventually even someone like David Glass would have to realize the rest of the league is clowning on Dayton.
That's just it though.
I really don’t want my team to be a laughingstock for the next 10 years again. It’s been bad enough for the last 10. There’s light at the end of the tunnel, but DM seems to want to drag us back to hell.
Worst at evaluating Free Agent Hitting Talent
Hands down
- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …
by Jeff Zimmerman on Jul 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Which would you prefer?
Gordon-DDJ-Frenchy or Pods-DDJ-Gordon? Just thinking about the 2011 OF.
I am inspired

nowhere near as good as the original, since the goofy GMU pic is no longer online

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by BHWick on Jul 25, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
And "Now with more singles" reminds me of
Bachelor Chow: Now with Flavor
by sterlingice on Jul 25, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Ooter's candy
Now mit iodine!
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by RoyalsRetro on Jul 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
also
if you need a change of scenary after a year with a team, then you’re usually a shitty ballplayer (or you’ve pissed off the populace). Considering that Frenchy is angling for his second change of scenary in 2 years, he’s either bad at baseball, or Lyle Lanley
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by BHWick on Jul 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this can't be true...
i’ll withhold judgment until something actually happens, but if it goes down like this….fire DM
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 25, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
I wish I hadn't read this right before bed
nightmares for me tonight!
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
It all just keeps coming back to OBP...
If Francouer becomes a Royal the problem isn’t that he’s been bad for three years that I have a problem with. In my opinion the Royals need to acquire guys who have been bad and are thus out of favor. But Francouer is bad in precisely the wrong way. The problem with going after guys like Betancourt and Francoeur and Guillen is that even at their best they lack the single most important skill an offensive player can have. They don’t get on base enough. It’s so freaking simple but it doesn’t seem like Dayton gets that yet.
OMG no
Perez and Meche part are wash, but I would keep Meche because he at least has had one productive season.
Farnsworth – Done after this year – Castillo – Still owed 6 million for next year
Guillen – owed for half of this season Frenchy – Hopefully released, but could be kept with arb for 6 million
All the players basically suck. With the trade, we will be paying for Castillo and probably for next. This is just plain dumb.
- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …
by Jeff Zimmerman on Jul 25, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
The Castillo trade is the worse part is absolutely the worst part of this deal. Farny should be able to return
at least a B/C prospect like Dan Cortes was at the time of the deal last year and the Ms got a throw in on top. Castillo is worse than Getz who shouldn’t start over Aviles, adding a 3rd string 2b for 6M is flat ignorant. I personally was hoping for Chris Dickerson doesn’t have a chair in Cinci, Pods/Farny would probably be enough for him. Not gonna happen
You know they’ll keep Frenchy for next year and what’s the point of adding Frenchy when AGordon needs ABs
Meche for Perez-isn’t terrible as they make the same and maybe Perez could work out of the pen and provide some production
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The Mariners are totally ready to get rid of Jose Lopez …
… come on folks, there’s got to be some three-way scenario that results in José Lopez ending up in KC, reunited with YuBet. With Callaspo gone, the Royals need some ex-Mariner to fill in. With experience at both 2B and 3B, Lopez is the perfect fit.
And the Double Play Twins will once again be united!!!!
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by Steve Nelson on Jul 25, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm hoping this rumor falls under the 95% speculation
that never happens.
Farnsworth for Castillo is foolish even for Dayton. KC needs to be looking to get younger, not be saddled with extensions of bad contracts.
Worse things could happen than Frenchy for Guillen. I’d rather see KC just release Guillen than pick up Frenchy now.
Meche for Perez – what’s the point? At least Meche wants to pitch and isn’t a jerk.
I like this trade...
except the part about us getting the same guys we are trying to get rid of. That part makes no sense at all. Infact this whole senerio makes no sense, but it does involve two of the worst GM’s in sports swaping equally shitty players and (it looks like) equally shitty contracts.
I hate to say it…but….keep Guillen and Farnzy? Ugh, that didn’t feel very good.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
I agree. At this point, keep them now instead of adding more shit in their spot.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
It all makes sense
They’re trying to show us the alternative, which will make us happier with what we have.
Touche, Dayton.
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 26, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
As a Met fan, I'm happy there's another GM
that wants Francoeur; as a fellow human being, I apologize.
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 26, 2010 6:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My wishful thinking post?
From Mets: O. Perez, L. Castillo, Francoeur. (more)
Does that “more” mean something? Maybe it means a prospect. Baseball writers only talk about major leaguers involved in a deal if it’s that many names.
Without anything “more” this move is obviously a fail for the Royals because of the extra year of monetary commitment. But if there’s some sort of prospect hidden here, does it make it worth it?
Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!
I don't get it
Despite the widely-known love DM has for Frenchy, I just don’t know on what planet the Minaya would be on to even be interested in Guillen, Farnsworth, or Meche. Guillen would only help the Mets if they turn their season around, get into contention, and are serious about playing him in the field over, say Jason Bay. Then you’d have to move Angel Pagan over to LF.
Farnsworth makes sense, if the Mets think they are in contention. Maybe Farnsworth for Frenchy is something that this could all boil down to, if the Royals ship off JoGui somewhere else.
Meche and O. Perez are expensive damaged goods that no team in their right mind should be looking to acquire. I don’t even need to go down the Castillo road.
Farnsworth for Francouer is probably the only combo I could understand. Wouldn’t like it, but I could see that coming.
The only comment for this is
The Royals were the ones who killed the talks.
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
From Rosenthal on Twitter:
Hearing #Royals aren’t enamored of possible #Mets deal. What, no Ollie? #MLB
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic."
He's heard of the contest
And is bowing out because he believes Omar’s already won with Frenchy, Ollie, Castillo, etc.
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic."
by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you JESUS
thank you Lord
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
Jayson Stark updates us:
“All that Ollie Perez/JeffFrancoeur/Gil Meche/Jose Guillen #Mets-#Royals talk has been fun. But source says KC has “no interest.”"
Thank you sweet baseball Jesus.
"Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic."
Wonder if he opened up to chapter 6 section 3
“How to act disinterested while remaining massively interested”
Thank God we didn't trade Jozy and Farnzy
god that still feels weird.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 26, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions















