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Royals Trade Scott Podsednik To The Dodgers In Exchange for Lucas May And Elisaul Pimentel

The Royals have sent Scott Podsednik to the Dodgers in exchange for two minor league prospects. Well done, Dayton.

The players coming back are Lucas May (c) and Elisaul Pimentel (p).

Pimentel is a 21 year old pitcher who has been in A-ball. (B-R page) Pimentel has a 3.49 ERA this year, with good strikeout numbers. A definite interesting live arm. He is the second Pimentel from the Dodger organization to be acquired by Dayton Moore. He has a 3.68 career minor league ERA. (I had earlier written the Dodgers had been using him as a reliever, I must have went cross-eyed when I looked at his stats. He hasn't been. He's been a starter.)

Lucas May / Luke May is a 25 year old catcher with an .848 this season in AAA. (B-R page) May also hit decently last season in AA. I'm sure Albuquerque is a good hitters park, but for a catcher in his first AAA season, those are interesting numbers. I would have taken one of these guys for Pods.

Well done to the GM on this one. Hopefully this is only the beginning of a busy deadline.

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Confirmed? Thoughts? Sauce?
The players coming back are Lucas May and Elisaul Perez.

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

what does sauce mean

My stories a lot like yours only more interesting because it involves robots!

by AvilesRotY on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Source

Everyone who bashes Kendall..... he is a damn good catcher. Very smart behind the plate. He has great BAT CONTROL, which makes him a good top of the order hitter.

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by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

ok thanks

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by AvilesRotY on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pimental

…I just realized that Class A Burlington is Burlington, NC. I live an hour away. For 8 years living 1 hour away from my beloved Royals’ A team!? Well, I will check out the game this Friday and hopefully will get to see this kid pitch. Can’t wait!!

by Esteban Silvani on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um... I think you're mistaken.

I think the Class A Burlington team is in Iowa. The Rookie league team is in NC.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, it's in IA.

I’ll be watching IA-Burlington games in a week or two.

"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.

by timlacy on Jul 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burlington Bees – the Class A team is in Iowa.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp?sid=t420

Burlington Royals – Rookie League, is in North Carolina.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp?sid=t483

by Gross(est) on Jul 29, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's 2 Burlington Royals...

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jul 29, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edit

Elisaul Pimental

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Edit myself

Elisaul PimentEl

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know absolutely nothing about either of these guys

but I already think this was a good deal.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!

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by Playoffs?!? on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I give

The deal a thumbs up for the Royals.

by Slizeezyc on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

links

lucas may – wikipedia
                    - Baseball Reference
 
Elisaul Pimentel – Baseball Reference

by Bart41 on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

local product...

May graduated from Parkway West High School in Ballwin, Missouri.

by Bart41 on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't heard

Much about May’s defense this year, but I know that’s more the concern moving forward since he was a converted position player.

by Slizeezyc on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

I’m more even talking about the passed balls etc. I like the bat even if may just end up being a fastball hitter more than anything. And Pimentel has some pretty awesome stuff if he controls the BBs.

by Slizeezyc on Jul 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have much more time to improve it

He’ll be 26 to start the 2011 season.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hasn't hurt kila

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scotty Pods is down the list a bit for whom I would like to see traded first

Jose, Farnsy, Kendoll….

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah - me too.

Of all the off season acquisitions and “veterans” he’s the one I disliked the least.

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's the one who will bring the most though

Least hated by opposing GM’s as well as Royals fans

by WURoyal on Jul 29, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

May looks good. Now trade Old Man Time behind the plate, put Pena in, and call up May. Lets do it dammit.

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by Playoffs?!? on Jul 28, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Just great!

A crappy catcher & another pitcher that minor league jitters have a .333 avg against

Tough times never last, but tough people do.

by MadMartigan816 on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Addition by subtraction

We won this trade if we gave him away for a can of spam and a T Shirt Tuesday sponsorship.

Everyone who bashes Kendall..... he is a damn good catcher. Very smart behind the plate. He has great BAT CONTROL, which makes him a good top of the order hitter.

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by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

What do you mean ugh! I Don’t Like Spam!!!

by JMGesling on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You people suck.

Why don’t you think about this? A catcher with decent hitting stats. A CATCHER. Are you comparing him to Mauer or something. Jeez. And a young guy who strikes out a lot. Gee, he must be terrible. Shut up.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You hawkinscm87

I strongly agree. I like the accurate use of optimism.

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by Playoffs?!? on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta wonder if the May acquisition means Myers is moving to OF

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

it should be

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I read, Mays is a borderline catcher himself

my point was simply that fringe prospects like Pina and C prospects like Mays should not figure into the decisionmaking regarding a potential stud like Myers one way or the other

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Definitely. I do think that this trade going through increases the likelihood that we see Myers moved tho. If it happens, Myers won’t have been moved because May was acquired; May will have been acquired because Myers was likely to be moved.

by kcdc1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesn't

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

May doesn't look too exciting, but not bad

Pimentel looks like a decent pickup, just looking at his BBref numbers

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm actually looking forward to seeing May at the MLB level.

.850 OPS at AAA for a catcher, even if it is at albuquerque and even if it is only half a season is pretty darn good.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

But 25 in the one of the best hitting parks in pro baseball.

Pimentel is the prize here I think

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I don't think he's much of a prize.

Live arms are always good, but the fact that the dodgers already moved him to reliever makes me wonder about injury concerns and long term value.

His ceiling may well be a set-up man.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's made 17 appearances this year

16 starts.

his relief appearance went 5 innings.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thumbs up

Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Jul 28, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely approve.

What more could we ask for.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll take him!

“Baltimore, I have something you might want.”

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 29, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are

Enough of them in the minors, one has to be related somehow.

by Slizeezyc on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

MLBTR saying Dodgers pay the rest of Pods Salary. I know it isn’t much, but hey, it’s something.

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by SittinByTheFoulPole on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

My spousal unit just reminded me that May was the catcher for the Isotopes when we saw the O-Royals in a double header a few weeks back.

According to my scorecard he caught the first game and in four plate appearances he got a single, grounded to short, got hit by a pitch and struck out. Then he pinch hit in the second game and grounded out to third. I don’t have any notes about his defense of “game calling skills.” But I’m sure they were lovely.

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

But did grit fall out of his sleeves when he ran?

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have any notes on that either. Sorry.

Clearly I need to do a better job on my scorecards.

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now if we can trade Guillen to the Giants

We’ll have sunk two NL West contenders ;)

by sterlingice on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Or they could take Kendal as a thank you

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Padres

do not seem suicidal at the moment. Perhaps they can take Bloomquist instead.

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by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 29, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luke May home/road splits

Home (Albuquerque): 354/392/619
Road: 259/325/410

He throws out 20% of baserunners (about 6% under the average in the majors)

Uh, this dude is gonna be a backup catcher post-Kendall.

Also, Pimentel has had a good year, but this is his first good K/9 year, so I can’t pledge any expectations for him.

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, but his BB/K ratio is better

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...ah...stupid question I know, but does this mean Mitch gets some playing time again?

With DDJ out and Banny’s 5-game winning streak over for the year, it’s really all I have.

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, in a strange way I hope not.

Simply because an OF of Gordon, Ankiel, guillen is Kila’s only hope for AB’s

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is that.

The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. -- Albert Einstein

by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 29, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Morosi tweets Royals not done interest in Bloomquist and Ankiel

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh god, please trade Ankiel please please please

My week would be completly redeemed.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Hard to redeem a week that includes losses of 12-6, 19-1 and 11-2.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

John Buck 2.0 anyone?

We didn’t get a teahen this time though.

by TheHouseFrankBuiltLiterally on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nah May is no All-Star

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
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by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loons players help save life of crash victim

The family of a Sanford man is grateful that Great Lakes Loons players Rafael Ynoa and Elisaul Pimentel stopped and helped when they were greatly needed on Sunday.

It’s because of the help of Ynoa, 22, and Pimentel, 21, that Terry Whittington is alive today, Abby Bierschbach wrote in a letter to the editor that is published in today’s Daily News.

“I would just like to say thank you to the Great Lakes Loons players that stopped and helped out at the motorcycle accident on M-30 on Mother’s Day,” the letter reads. “The players stopped to help with our family member who was severely hurt. If it weren’t for their efforts he would not be with us today.”

Ynoa said that he and Pimentel were passengers in a car that was driving behind Whittington’s Honda motorcycle on M-30 on Sunday, when Whittington’s motorcycle crashed after striking a turkey that had walked into the roadway. The two players were on their way to the Loons’ doubleheader at Dow Diamond.

“He lost control of the motorcycle,” Ynoa said in an interview before Friday’s Loons’ game at Dow Diamond. “It was bad. I was so scared. We thought he was dead. We ran and we helped him.”

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel like there is a fowl ball joke here

But I’m drawing a blank

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
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by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

what shitty luck

Hit a turkey? That’ll score with the chicks.

Obviously, you are not a golfer.

by Kyled85 on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

how little attention do you have to be paying to hit a turkey with a motorcycle? Just saying

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if he came over a hill or around a corner, i could see it happening

especially since there’s probably a whole crew of turkeys across the road….not just one bird

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 29, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I met a guy in Wisconsin

one time that was riding a motorcycle when a hen turkey flew across the road, hit him in the chest and cleared him off the bike. Dude was messed up for almost 2 years. It happens.

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 29, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been hit by a turkey before

I say hit by a turkey, because that’s what happened. Driving a pickup and the bird came out of the trees on the west side of 13 near Bolivar and smacked into the side of the truck. Lol…

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by 306008 on Jul 29, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wild turkeys are big,

come in flocks, and are not very smart. And there are lots of them in places like Missouri and Tennessee.

My mom comes from Navasota, Texas. The most interesting character there was this tough old lady who ran a little farm herself. She was driving her pickup one day and a turkey crashed through her windshield (this was before safety glass) and killed her. Must have hit her in the head and broken her neck.

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by Juancho on Jul 30, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

almost hit a dog once on my bike....

tried to avoid him and wound up dumping my bike….by buddy told me the moral i should take away from the wreck was to not try and avoid hitting animals on the road just look at them as living speedbumps….guy probably did the same thing….

by Madcow8 on Jul 29, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Methinks that Turkey

probably turns into a bar fight around girls.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
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by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moose just doubled for the 2nd time tonight 3-4

Checkout Royals minor league notes at www.14for77.blogspot.com

by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if Alex Gordon's career would have been different if he had had the same path though the minors?

Say what you will about AAA, guys need to see junkballers before they come up to the big leagues.

Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.

by Gantz9 on Jul 28, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to see breaking pitches

Even if they are crap. Not too many around at the lower levels.

What does Alex struggle against…

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point exactly

Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.

by Gantz9 on Jul 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should never skip a level

even a couple of months in Omaha on the way up would have done him a world of good

by stram#1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looked great tonight

Some nice defensive plays, too. He really has got a rocket launcher for an arm.

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Guillen gets traded and Ankiel gets traded and/or re-injured, we could conceivably see this:

CF Mitch
LF Gordon
RF Uh..? Spork? Someone from the minors?
1B Butler
2B Getz
SS Aviles/Yuni (sigh)
3B Uh…? Betemit?
C Kendall/Pena (yeah, right)
DH Kila

It could happen right. We could even see Pena play and Mitch and Aviles and Gordon and even Kila all at the same time. It could happen, right?

by sterlingice on Jul 28, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

damn underwear gnomes!!

Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.

by Clearly Ambiguous on Jul 29, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably Parraz

Maybe even Lough if Bloomquist is also gone

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we need to load up on outfield talent in our next deal.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jul 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

INSANITY!!!

Must have Kendall batting second

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by averagegatsby on Jul 28, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben Badler tweet

  
New #Royals RHP Elisaul Pimentel is another fringy guy, 89-93, inconsistent slider and changeup that flash avg at times

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben Badler tweet May

New #Royals C Lucas May could be a decent backup in the big leagues. That’s probably his upside, though

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm happy with the return just putting up what people tweeted.

I did give GMDM credit prior to the season saying that the Ankiel/Pods signings were for this reason only

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

I think we all secretly hoped that was his intention. It’s a risky tactic though. See Rick AnKiel. Remains to be seen whether or not we can flip him.

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, honestly, that's a pretty dumb strategy

buying two low level prospects for $1.6 million is a pretty steep price

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I mean you have to argue

that you’re paying for his production, leadership, grit, and hot wife too.

But I agree… you’re not getting the best deal by any means.

However… knowing that GMDM thinks he has to win as many as possible… I support the flip’n strategy to the alternative.

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but at the point at which we had Pods

it was best that he was eventually traded

I didn’t want to watch the 2011 sequel

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I would much rather have seen $1.2M shifted over into the international prospect budget, and $400K spent on acquiring and paying a guy like Langerhans, etc.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong. I completely agree.

I’m just saying, knowing that Moore will sign vets, I’m glad he at least isn’t set on not trading them.

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he goes nuts this week

I hope he trades Kendall, Guillen, Soria, Farnsi, banny, davies, tejeda, everyone but soria basically

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Samurai Zack, of course

but that’s ‘Mr. Samurai’ to you

(also, you appear to want him to trade Soria and trade everyone but Soria.)

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 29, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't want Tejeda traded.

Not even sure why, but I still think he’s a decent starter. I’m still drunk on his small sample size of starts last year.

Ned likes Kendall in the 2-hole!

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the expected value for a decent prospect can be even more than $1.6M

maybe someone can chime in with an actual link/reference to analysis.

but also, he provided invaluable leadership along the way

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 29, 2010 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets just see how that bat does.

For a Catcher a .750 OPS is well above average, in fact it would be 4th in the AL this year. Even a 700 OPS would be 6th. I’d take that in a heartbeat

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by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa a rare TRIPLE post

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

I was going to say that the most important question now was who leads off but you beat me to it, a few times

by I need more Esteban on Jul 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would fulfill

one of my preseason predictions…not that I would be happy about it.

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by The Ol' Perfesser on Jul 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kendall didn't bat second today!!!

Because he didn’t play.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

What?!?

Did the moon fall out of orbit too?

Pena. C’Mon!

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by Playoffs?!? on Jul 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope

they pick LF or RF for Gordon, then leave him there to learn. Playing every other game at each is (yet another) ludicrous development plan

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Trust the process

Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.

by Gantz9 on Jul 28, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

His arm has a long way to go before he belongs in Rf.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon's Batting

Has anyone else noticed that he’s hitting the ball a little more to the opposite field? It’s been pop outs and fly balls, but hey, he seems to have rediscovered the other side of the field!

by JMGesling on Jul 29, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

One of the Yankee games he went with the pitch on the outer half of the plate from Sabathia (IIRC) and it looked like a pop fly, but it almost went out. Lots of power there.

by AxDxMx on Jul 29, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've Been On

This for years. If he’d just go with the pitch he could hit it out of any park.

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by philofthenorth on Jul 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll take over LF now.

Mitch will take RF because Mitch has the better arm. (obviously)

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

(obviously)

Really?

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by labbadabba on Jul 29, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, uh

who’s coming up to replace Podsednik? considering how thin the 40-man roster Outfield spots are.. are we gonna get another week-long stint of Kila sitting on the bench?

and is May getting the playing time while Pina goes to the bench?

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll see soon enough.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

glad to get something out of Podsednik, even if it’s just organizational depth. You can never have too much pitching either.

by I need more Esteban on Jul 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Have we established who will lead off?

Also, I’ll be whistling dippity doo da outta my asshole if we end up trading Ankiel, Spork and Guillen by week’s end. I’ll whistle out of other orifi if we send Soria off to the Yankees. There, I said it. Trade Soria!

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by LaFLamme on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

May joins the 40 man roster

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening to the teleconference now.

Man, these things are tacky. Half the reporters are losing reception, there is this weird beeping noise, Dayton seems to have a hard time hearing them.

Geez.

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Kilaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Please, let it be him.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

GMDM with the brush off on Kila

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

He doesn't know if it will be tomorrow.

So it won’t be tomorrow.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had we known the outcome of the PODS era...

would we have been a little…less harsh on GMDM for making the move?

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

And when (not if) he finally gets Jeff Francouer, we won’t go easy on him for the exact same reason. Because it was a joke around here that he made come true, and that’s awful regardless of the reasoning behind it.

by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 29, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carry an extra pitcher?!

For Baltimore.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Dayton blaming injuries!

I’m marking out.

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he's just referring to trade potential.

Calm down.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was talking about the DeJesus injury and how "we don't have the team we left Spring Training with"

and how DeJesus’ injury pretty much opened their eyes that they wouldn’t be in contention this year, even though it was a slim chance before he got hurt.

He was totally blaming the season on injuries.

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to say that.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He always says that

it’s disgusting

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by mazoboom on Jul 28, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drink

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I've had enough of this.

Dayton’s just going into BS stuff now.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

DM gives the impression

That he would have extended Pods, but got rebuffed.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

said he's interested in possibly resigning him for 2011

be afraid, be very afraid.

No mention of the potential draft compensation pick.

by nwroyal on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since no team would be moronic enough to offer Pods arb

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

hopefully that’s just lip service to make the Dodgers feel like they weren’t screwed…

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

HoRam style!

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup Guess (since we know Kila isn't getting the call)

1. Gordon RF
2. Kendall C
3, Butler 1B
4. Guillen DH
5, Betemit 3B
6, Ankiel CF
7. Mitch RF
8. Aviles/Getz 2B
9. Yuni! SS

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by A. B. Aird on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

1. Kendall C
2. Aviles/Getz 2B
3. Butler 1B
4. Kila (!) DH
5. Guillen RF
6. Ankiel CF
7. Betemit 3B
8. Gordon LF
9. Yuniesky “SS”

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Maybe the runs saved in right over Guillen makes up for the odd ball going into left?

by JoCro on Jul 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome trade for any GM, mindblowingly great for Dayton

This trade would rock if they got even the crappy pitcher and had to pick up Pods’ salary. Sending Pods salary AND getting a catching prospect rated a “C” by Sickels is a major coup. No, neither of these guys are likely to make an impact, but, as we all agree, Pods was worthless when he was signed, and to get something of value for him…

Hey, take what you can get… Dayton just did to Ned Colletti what the Marlins usually do to Dayton.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Even better when Matt gives up some credit

I give this signing and trade an A++++++++ just by Matt tossing out some praise

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I should have said “pointless.” It was more than half a season, and he would very likely regressed, but yeah, Dayton got the best of all possible worlds here — gets rid of Pods before the regression, gets a bit of potential value back without spending more money, gets to look like it was a smart signing at the time even though it very much was not, etc. Thank goodness for the “genius” of NL GMs. Enjoy that extra half win, Ned!

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

even the MLB Network guys...

who are of course all about their players like Pods… weren’t quite sure even where he was gonna play

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt, can I get a, "You were right about Pods," now?

I’ll give you your, “You were right about Jacobs.” (Graaah, can’t totally do it. I never said he’d be good. It was a terrible trade tho, and I’d considered it neutral-ish at the time.)

by kcdc1 on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you were right that the Royals could get something of minimal value for him

I underestimated the injury situation of teams like the Dodgers and, clearly, overestimated their intelligence

The Pods signing was still idiotic, but Dayton made something out of it, so good job by him

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I'm hoping for a "You were right about Guillén"

coming soon. Please let it happen, for all of our sakes.

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by Juancho on Jul 30, 2010 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's almost like his mute button is on

Whatever the reason, high comedy

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn, I thought the press conference was at 9am tomorrow morning

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Kila harder to "free" than

Nelson Mandela

(sorry, I know this is an unfortunate comparison that would get me fired, if, you know, I was paid to post this)

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Why is it always "centerfielders who can run"?

Why not centerfielders who can read balls coming off the bat?
Or centerfielders who can get on base?

Who gives a fuck if they can run. It’s not a freaking track meet. That’s not a skill. I want someone with some freaking skills.

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

RUNNING FAST IS A TOOL!!!

Dayton doesn’t have time to educate you, he’s busy doing this conference call.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skills aren't part of the process.

Sending PODS to LA leaves the team with a lack of grit. Those swinging bunts then get caught stealling were an important part to building a winner here in KC.
Looks like Kendall is gonna have to dig deep to pick up the grit that PODS left with.

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by A. B. Aird on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A French dude

Became the first white man to run 100m sub 10 seconds the other week.

White= Gritty
Sub 10= RUNS WELL

Being French might constitute questionable makeup though.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless your last name happens to be

FRANCOEUR!!

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I take it back. It is a skill. Just the most important skill in a centerfielder IMO.

Do you think if I send DM a biography of Herb Washington it might open his eyes to just how little return there is on overvaluing a player’s running speed?

by Gross(est) on Jul 28, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

A center fielder needs to cover more territory than any other fielder. Sure, “reading balls off the bat” is important too, but being able to run fast is definitely an asset in playing that position, more so than, say, shortstop.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's true. I am serious. Completely. Totally. Vehemently.

And here are some reasons why I think that:
Joey Gathright, Josh Anderson

I’m sure I’m forgetting someone. I think when GMDM says he’s looking for a speedy centerfielder, that is literally what he means. He looks at how fast someone can run, because that is what he’s done in the past. Even if those guys couldn’t play that position and couldn’t get on-base, thus making their speediness irrelevant to their total value as a baseball player.

I really honestly don’t care how much ground they cover in the outfield if in the end they don’t catch the ball. I don’t care how fast they move from 1st base to 2nd base if they can’t read pitchers and get caught stealing more than 20% of the time.

by Gross(est) on Jul 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, reading your statement again, I think you may misunderstand my first statement.

I’m not opposed to having speedy players. But I’m opposed to the fact that our “what I’m looking for in a centerfielder” list seems to begin and end with speed. Lots of guys run fast. It doesn’t make them good ballplayers. For instance, have you met my buddy Herb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Washington

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by Gross(est) on Jul 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

I’m still not understanding what your problem with “speedy centerfielder” is.

You’ve got 8 non-pitchers in the field who all, ideally, will have decent hitting ability to belong in your lineup. Subtract the catcher as a specialized position where hitting is nice to have but generally sacrificed for other assets. (also, if your speedy player is crouching half the game you’re actively destroying that aspect of his usefulness)

Now, the ability to hit for average, swing only at pitches in the strike zone, muscle the ball for power – none of those is a greater asset at one position than at another. Frequently someone who displays these traits (and for whatever reason can’t be shoved in the DH slot) will be placed in positions where defense is considered low-demand: likely 1B, RF or, less frequently, LF.

Speed is an asset which helps on offense, and for defense is best put to use in center field, where there’s more ground to cover. So when you’ve got a hole to be filled in CF, you want someone with speed in addition to what you want in any old position player. Sometimes a team will sacrifice some of one asset to get some extra speed, but wanting a speedy CF doesn’t necessarily mean Gathright or Pods – remember that GMDM made bids for Torii Hunter and Andruw Jones, but was unable to land either of them – it just means that among the players who were available to the Royals, these were most suited for center field.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

In re-reading my above post

I’m afraid I’ve probably been too wordy at the expense of clarity of my point.

That point being: every team would love to have an all-star hitter at every position. But the Royals are not the Yankees. Or, more specifically, the 2010 Royals, with little free-agent money and a minor league system that didn’t have a decent pipeline until 3 years ago, are not capable of being the Yankees. (Hopefully that will change with the emergence of Colon, Hosmer, Moustakas and Myers.) We’re not going to have a lineup featuring 9 fantastic hitters.

So where to pick and choose? There are a few spots on the diamond (plus DH) where you put a hitter who can’t field all that well. The spots you look to fill with less-great hitters, you try to get someone with suitable defensive tools. Speed at CF is one such compromise a team like the Royals reasonably makes. (though, admittedly, Pods was slightly below average in the field. I’m just saying the “speedy CF” concept is not dumb like you make it sound.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

^This

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by Warden11 on Jul 29, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, so Pods is not a great defender

That doesn’t mean that speed is not a good idea to have on your list of qualifications to play CF.

Or, if you think your coaching staff could teach a person some things about playing outfield defense, you can get a guy who has the speed to make such teachings effective rather than a random player.

Try to remember, also, that GMDM has gone after other CFs who do not fit the deficient Gathright-Pods mold. He tried for Torii Hunter. He tried for Andruw Jones. He got Coco Crisp, but Coco got injured after not too much playing time. But barring an ability to get and keep a high performer, if he has to get a scrub to fill the position, it might as well be a scrub with speed.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody is saying this.
That doesn’t mean that speed is not a good idea to have on your list of qualifications to play CF.

Just that it shouldn’t be the #1 priority when looking for a centerfielder.

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by Warden11 on Jul 29, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warden and Sagehen pretty much made my argument for me while I was at work.

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by Gross(est) on Jul 29, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have missed Gross(est)'s point

Of course a centerfielder is going to be relatively fast. But speed in and of itself is not enough – the player needs to be a good defender, and sometimes getting a good read and taking the best route can be more important than that last bit of extra speed that GMDM’s favorite CF’ers have, such as with Joey Gaithright. She just wants a good defender who can get on base, regardless of top end speed or lack thereof.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

Gordon is starting in centerfield tomorrow?

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Alyssa Milano is displeased
Cough we need pitching Cough RT @ThinkCure: #Dodgers acquire outfielder Podsednik http://bit.ly/c1B9sO

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Pods doesn't make enough money

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, she's have to get into a helluva cat fight

with Mrs. Pods.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

God...that image gave me goose bumps...

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OT:

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by averagegatsby on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Woah, I totally forgot,

the Royals got Mike Montgomery with a pick acquired for David Riske’s free agency.

Those things can be gold.

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by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Dodgers Address Juan Pierre Shortage, Acquire Scott Podsednik From Royals

The headline to the Dodgers SB blog trade piece.

They seem very mildly displeased at losing Pimentel about losing Pimentel

by kcbottom9th on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

How do they feel about losing May?

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's understandable I guess.

They have a starting catcher for the foreseeable future, plus AJ Ellis. I bet they miss Carlos Santana though. Haha.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read through their entire thread....(whew)

here is what i gathered….

They place more value on proven talent than younger guys stuck in thier system….(understandably since they are looking to play ball this october.)

But more than a few expressed a little discomfort for giving away young guys….But not much.

by Madcow8 on Jul 29, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was kinda surprising that we didn’t find a way to trade Podsednik to the White Sox

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nah.

Vizquel.

- "But Frank, that's the worst shortstop in the league."
- "That's what they keep tellin' me."

by hawkinscm87 on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

not everyone's perfect

we can’t all get what we want

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

but they have vizquel and pierre around to DH

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Williams is holding out

for Jimmy Gobble.

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping

since Moore says a pitcher is coming up – let’s hope for Coleman or B Hardy

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

more likely to be Holland

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got Derek/rick Holland in the Gutierrez trade, too?

awesome

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

where have you been lately?

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, dumb joke

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was joking as well

we confused each other.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be fine

I just have a gut feeling that Coleman is going to be really good. Minimum stud setup guy – with closer potential

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on Coleman

i only speculate it being Holland because he’s got much more AAA time. and Coleman pitched a few innings tonight, so he might not be available tomorrow or Friday.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he looked great tonight

Agreed. It should be Holland at this point. Coleman and Hardy are both pitching great, but I think they’re prime September call-ups for the ’pen. Both were solid out there tonight, though.

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have ESP

Dutton says it’s probably him.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has to be

I don’t know who else they’d want right now, but then again I thought it would be when they tabbed Bull instead.

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

GMDM mentioned needing to acquire a corner power bat

Any chance Eibner can fill this role down the road? How about a Hosmer move?

by billski8 on Jul 28, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Francoeur

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by BHWick on Jul 28, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could I forget about "The Natural"

Plus he has a Plus arm and Plus Frenchy-ness

by billski8 on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, move Hosmer now.

I want him playing 1B when he is 35 not 25.

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by A. B. Aird on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wondered that when I saw him in the Futures game

looked a lot leaner than I expected. BR lists him at 6’4", 215, and he’s only 19 so you wonder how much he’s going to fill out, but he looked athletic enough to handle a corner OF spot right now.

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by MizzouCus on Jul 28, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This must be impossible, because if it weren’t it would be beyond idiotic to have him playing 1B at all.

COF would substantially increase his value. There must be something we don’t know here, IMO.

by WURoyal on Jul 29, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

does it make us happy or anxious

that on “the Club” the CWS draft guy were gushing about Eibner (even though they ended up taking somebody else)?

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen

is next.

I heard on the FAN 590 – Toronto believe it or not that The Giants have an offer on the table for Guillen.

Money from KC with Guillen for a couple of farm hands.

The Mets are very interested in Farnsworth.

by Peterman700 on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

make. it. so.

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no not the Mets that would mean Frenchy for sure

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by kcscoliny on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

not necessarily

the Mets might decide to keep Frenchy….i expect a low minors prospect.

by Peterman700 on Jul 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

who did you see on top?

I had them all tangled up in hot mess….it was hard to tell where one ended and the other began…..but it was full of merriment whatever it was

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Jul 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, can't believe it

I was out to dinner. I read this on the drive home and almost pissed myself… well ok, I did, a little…

I’m just so happy GMDM did something that I wanted him to.

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by AtTheWall on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

same thing with me!! I checked MLBTR before i left and get home to this!

Yes!

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by 306008 on Jul 28, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Analysis coming on FanGraphs in a bit...

try to contain your excitement, it will be full of surprises.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jul 28, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Future OF

CF – Derrick Robinson
LF – Eric Hosmer
RF – Parraz or Lough
4OF – Mitch Maier
5OF – Francouer vs. Gordon

by billski8 on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

But see, look at Pods!!

They’re a valuable commodity!

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they did that, Hos would be in RF

he has a very good arm

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus GMDM, do you see how easy it is?

One clever little trade and its like the sun is shining from that one affiliate in Arkansas all the way out west to Grass Creek

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Jul 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Just got back from the ORoyals game

I saw Luke May play here last week with the Isotopes. He was a solid hitter – the whole team was, though. Great rips in BP and seemed to be sound behind the plate. I didn’t get to see the whole game, but he called a good game and kept the Sounds out of it for a while. He wasn’t nearly as solid at the plate in that game (3 K’s, 0-4), but I think he has potential. He and Pina could make a good 1-2 combo in a couple years.

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 28, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

"very soon"

not very reassuring, as time appears to run differently in the parallel universe inhabited by Moore

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

MACDOUGAL SIGHTING

He;s pitching b8 for STL at NYM

GO POND SCUM

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

B 12th

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 28, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now in line for the win.

Go Mac the 12th!

FREE BRAYAN PENA.

by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is "pond scum" better than being a moran?

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by cmkeller on Jul 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know if May will be with Omaha tomorrow?

I’ll go check it out since they’re here.

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by MinnesotaRoyal on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I like this trade.

Pimentel is the center piece for sure. High K:BB ratio. More K’s than innings. He’ll get things figured out with the hits, Latin guys get things going quick once they figure it out.

If May does anything…. count it as gain. :)

Pods is better than we all give him credit for. He was decent and will do well for the Dodgers. NL special type of player.

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by 306008 on Jul 28, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm kind of worried about the team now.

We lose Pods and Ankiel. Who plays in the field with DDJ out? We’ve got Gordon and Mitch…. ? We lose Farnsi and have to bring back the guy we just sent down…. Our team got worse for this season….. But hopefully our future will look much better.

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by 306008 on Jul 28, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I see your point.

But the team is going nowhere this season anyway, and now Gordon and (I hope) Kila get a chance. The loss of DDJ hurts the most, IMHO, but that is no one’s fault.

by Black and Gold on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am more than happy to throw the rest of this yr away to improve the future

Get new players in the system
Get younger players (hopefully) a chance to get some MLB experience
Improve draft spot for next year’s draft

Win-win, plus, after the last 4 games, I don’t think anyone can defend keeping this thing as is

by Mr. Jones on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Dutster
Royals_Report Early signs point to #Royals summoning RHP Greg Holland from Class AAA Omaha to fill roster vacancy created by trading Podsednik to Dodgers.

FREE BRAYAN PENA.

by JobDDT on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Where would these two slot in as KC prospects?

Am I right in thinking that neither would crack the top 20 (or maybe 30)?

by Dadunca on Jul 28, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I think a top 30 for Pimentel would be possible

he’s young, dominican, and has decent numbers

we’d be obsessed with him by now

by Freneau on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I actually see both of them in the twenties.

May is close to on par with Pina or Perez, right? Pimental also has some things to like.

by Dadunca on Jul 28, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

both of them probably in the 20’s

maybe even late teens on Pimentel. we’ll see on him.

saw one updated list from a Dodgers blog that had May at 16 and Pimentel at 18.

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by doublestix on Jul 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY U ALL HAYTIN ON podsGODnik!

Everyone who bashes Kendall..... he is a damn good catcher. Very smart behind the plate. He has great BAT CONTROL, which makes him a good top of the order hitter.

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by kansasjhawk044 on Jul 29, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

It just hit me

Moore must be close to dealing Farnsy – then calling up Kila. That would jive with his characterizations of the pitching add being temporary, as well as the “very soon” stance on Kila

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

The banter on the Royals Facebook page

is too damn funny to be believed. Behold some sample quotes which I am not making up:

“It is offical the Kansas city is the wrost baseball team ever. BOO!!! u suck”

“The royals are now total idiots !! Sell the team to someone who freaken cares!!!!”

“OMGOSH getting rid of a Great player. WTF! Scott Podsednik bring leadership to the team. Royals make some dumb ass moves. See if I care to watch them. Always losing anyways!!”

this was used as a measure of the royals current minor league system
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/20 10/01/26/2010-farm-system- rankings/

“I have been a fan of the Royals my whole life and every move they do sucks”

“I cant stand that MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just traded my wife favorite player. I AM SICK OF THE BAD MOVES!!!!”

“They did what all you retard wanted…. a catcher, not Kendall. There you stupid idiots go… you happy now?”

“‎:*-( VERY SAD!!”

“This is why the royals continue to be the farm team for the rest of the league. They will never compete if they just keep “rebuilding” and attempt to put together a winner."

“stupid stupid stupid stupid stupd!!!!!!!!”

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by LaFLamme on Jul 29, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

When I see Guillen's name leaving our roster

then I will be happy and think that we are truly rebuilding. Then again nobody wants him so he will just be done at the end of the season. We finally have a catcher that might amount to something. It was a decent trade. Goodbye Pods… please let Guillen be next….

by grudz96 on Jul 29, 2010 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

kendall

seriously man kendall is absolutely horrible. lets look at the numbers compared to 2 of our catchers from last year…

allowed 79 SB – Olivo, 33 – Buck, 33…. ADVANTAGE: KENDALL SUCKS
committed 10 errors – Olivo, 5 – Buck, 1…. ADVANTAGE: KENDALL STILL SUCKS
0 HRS (wait, what?) 33 RBI – Olivo, 12 and 43 – Buck, 14 and 47…. get the point?

Yes kendall has caught more innings, so he has made more defensive mistakes, but he hasn’t hit a homer in 343 ABs

by black_gold on Jul 29, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Kendall also has 4HRs less than

a NL pitcher.

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by loyal2sdad on Jul 29, 2010 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Moore is now making all the right moves

I don’t get it. His statement about getting “Kila” in the lineup. I had to rub my eyes I didn’t believe it.

He may finally be getting it

by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 29, 2010 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you, Jesus

My long Podsednik nightmare is over.

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by Scott McKinney on Jul 29, 2010 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

He's still dogshit

but he’s somebody else’s dogshit now, right?

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 29, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely dogshit and now he’s somebody else’s problem.

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by Scott McKinney on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finally got back to comment

I listen to Dayton on 610 or 810 driving back from KC and he was pretty convinced that Kila will be up soon. He is actually not trying to blow as much smoke as he used to.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jul 29, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Jon (nonyabusiness)

Who won the Podsednik trade?
Klaw
  (2:40 PM)

I like Lucas May, actually. Nice pickup for KC for a guy who had no business being on their team on 8/1.

by kcbottom9th on Jul 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

He thinks that May was the better part of the Royals' return??

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Jul 29, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, i can't tell you...

it’s

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 30, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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