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It's a pretty cool article even if I disagree with some of them. What do you guys think?

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I didn't see anything outrageous

until I got to the Royals page.

Let me just preface this by saying, the Royals have not made very many good trades in their 42 years of existence.

Well, he’s definitely not the first writer to experience severe cluelessness about the history of this franchise. Let’s point him to this article and give him a do-over.

But wait: he’s apparently aware of the Otis trade and still picks Montgomery. No, no do-overs for him.

by 2X2L on Aug 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, what an ignorant statement (by Bleacher Report, not 2x2L)

We robbed teams to get Danny Tartabull, Amos Otis, Jeff Montgomery, Bud Black, Steve Balboni, Charlie Leibrandt, John Mayberry, Larry Gura, Fred Patek, Dean Palmer, Chili Davis, Jay Bell, Jose Offerman, and Jermaine Dye.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 20, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we gave away

Bret Saberhagen and David Cone (TWICE!) and Damon and Dye for nothing, and that obviously cancels everything else out.

I am now channeling Will McDonald's optimism.

by jonfmorse on Aug 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention Hal McRae.

by 2X2L on Aug 20, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

Cecil Fielder (even though we didn’t use him), Lou Piniella, Cookie Rojas, Ed Kirkpatrick, Ted Abernathy, Darrell Porter, Willie Aikens, Lonnie Smith, Joe Randa, Paul Byrd, Leo Nunez and Alberto Callaspo.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 20, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, so

except for those guys, the Royals have not made very many good trades in their 42 years of existence. No doubt about it.

by 2X2L on Aug 21, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn.

That Cedric Tallis guy was awesome. Why did we let him go after his only bad season as “GM?”

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Aug 20, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't have a Process

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Aug 20, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like Ewing Kauffman

was taking more direct control of the front office during that period. He was the force behind establishing the Baseball Academy in 1971, behind firing Bob Lemon and replacing him with Jack McKeon after 1972, and (naturally) behind replacing Cedric Tallis with Joe Burke. Just a guess, but possibly at the inception of the franchise he wanted Tallis to run the club while he came up to speed, but by 1974 he wanted someone to play a more complementary role.

by 2X2L on Aug 20, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most lopsided trade ever: Morgan to the Reds

Joe Morgan was the best second baseman ever. Cesar Geronimo was a Gold Glove CF who was not too shabby with the bat. Jack Billingham was an above-average innings-eater for several years. All would be key components of the ‘75-’76 Big Red Machine. They also got the excellent defender and OK hitter Denis Menke (who’d played SS at Houston) who started at 3B for Cincy in ’72 and ’73, an NL pennant and an NL West pennant. Armbrister was a bust, but he did have one brief shining moment when he interfered with Carlton Fisk in the ’75 Series and got away with it.

The Astros got a solid slugger who had three or four decent years left in May, but he wasn’t anything exceptional, and nothing else of note.

At least when Boston sold Ruth they got a ton of money that, if used wisely, could have improved their team. The Brock trade was lopsided, and Lou was a great player, but he was nowhere near as good as Morgan. The Bagwell trade was also lopsided, but remember that the Reds screwed the Astros out of much more than one great player.

"The bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey" - Unfortunate cricket commentator

by Juancho on Aug 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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