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Royals Review Community Prospect Rankings Who's #7?

Danny Duffy runs away with the #6 vote leading (95-11-5-3-1) by a big margin after just 115 votes.

#1 Wil Myers C 2009 3rd Round Pick currently at A+ Wilmington  .334/.434/.544 16 HR Career Minor league stats
#2 Eric Hosmer 1b #3 Overall pick 2008 currently at AA NW Arkansas
 .292/.372/.469 23 HR
#3 Mike Montgomery SP Supplementary Pick #36 Overall 2008 3.06 FIP 242 IP 214 Ks 72 BBs 171 Hits allowed
#4 Mike Moustakas 3b #2 Overall pick 2007 Omaha Royal .279/.336/.492 67 HR
#5 John Lamb SP 5th Round Pick 2008 3.22 FIP 205 IP 9.35 K/9 2.63 BB/9
#6 Danny Duffy SP 3rd Round Pick 2007
3.04 FIP 311.3 IP 10.32 K/9 2.92 BB/9

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Chris Dwyer -  4th Rounder 2009  Dwyer 6'3 210 is a power throwing lefty who the Royals drafted as a 21 yo freshman from Clemson university last season and gave 1st round type money.  He sports the usual repertoire fastball, curve and change with his fastball sitting in the 90-94 mph range.  Dwyer is said by some to have the best fastball of the group of lefties in the Royals system although maybe Duffy's new velocity could challenge that notion.  Chris started the season in Wilmington where he breezed thru 73 innings with a  9.49 K/9 and 3.70 BB/9 earning a promotion to NW Arkansas where he was got off to a good start striking out 19 in his first 17 innings limiting opponents to just 2 earned runs in those three starts.  A little bump in the road would occur in his fourth start however as Chris would injure his back and have his season shut down.  The injury doesn't appear to be serious and could just be an excuse for the Royals to limit his number of innings, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the Fall league this November.  Dwyer's biggest weakness is said to be his control but he did a decent job of limiting that this season and with his stuff could join Monty, Duffy and Lamb at the front of the rotation.

99.3 IP 84 H 112 K 48 BB 10.14 K/9 4.35 BB/9 3.09 ERA 1.38 WHIP 

Christian Colon - 1st Round Pick #4 Overall 2010 -  The Royals signed Colon very quickly and have moved him to Wilmington and Frawley Field, a notoriously difficult stadium for right handed hitters to hit in.  Colon got off to a slow start in the Carolina league putting together a .683 OPS in July but has hit better lately hitting in 9 of his last 10 games and putting up an OPS of .811 this month.  Colon's biggest question mark is his defense as alot of scouts viewed him as more of a 2b than SS and he doesn't seem to be dispelling those thoughts so far making 13 errors in just 48 games.  His range is said to be average at best and his speed is probably below average for a shortstop, Colon best case scenario is that he becomes a Jeterlike defender up the middle with limited range but good hands and a above average bat for a SS.

Brett Eibner 2nd round pick 2010 #54 overall-  This years 2nd round pick Eibner is a multi-tool centerfielder from the University of Arkansas has a great arm that has hit high 90s on the gun when he pitched and showed plenty of power at the University of Arkansas hitting 22 home runs his last season there.  Eibner appears to have some struggles making contact as he struckout in 26% of his plate appearances between college and the Cape Cod League and will need to continue to refine his approach.  At 6'4 210 lbs with big pop, speed and arm strength he definitely has alot of upside and that potential was enough of a reason the Royals took him in the 2nd round and gave him low first round type money.  He'll start soon in Idaho Falls and should be ready to play in Wilmington next season.

Tim Collins Acquired in Rick Ankiel/ Kyle Farnsworth Trade-  We've all heard the stuff about Collins 5'7 155 lbs small, diminutive, doesn't look like a prospect but that just doesn't seem to matter as he continues to overpower at every level he's been.  Collins arsenal of pitches reads more like that of a starter than reliever but with his size don't expect a switch anytime soon.  Collins fastball touches 94 while regularly sitting 91-92 mph his motion is deceptive and appears almost like a short lefthanded Tim Lincecum.  After the fastball Collins features a plus 12-6 curveball and average changeup and is also working on a cut fastball to go against righties.  While I usually go against rating a reliever in the Top 10 of most prospect systems especially a system as deep as the Royals, young Collins(20) is hard to ignore and could become a quality lefty arm in KC next season.

218.2 IP 324 K 95 BB 139 H 13.3 K/9 1.07 WHIP 2.51 FIP

I took Aaron Crow out of the poll because I don't think he would have much of a shot after collecting just one vote in the previous poll.  I'll add him back at #8 when the voting will probably be more spread out.  Who else do you think should be considered at #8?

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RR Community #7 Poll
Chris Dwyer SP NW Arkansas
102 votes
Christian Colon SS Wilmington
29 votes
Brett Eibner OF Idaho Falls
8 votes
Tim Collins RP Omaha
13 votes

152 votes | Poll has closed

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I said Eibner too.

The more I hear about Colon the more underwhelmed I am by him. Somebody tell me why he’s The Future.

Almost voted Collins, but if he’s only going to be a middle reliever or closer, he’s not going to have a huge impact on our team. Is there any chance his small stature is capable of allowing him to start, and if so, what are the chances the Royals try it?

by Crooow on Aug 29, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy Oswalt

Pedro… any other “small” pitchers that start out there?

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by 306008 on Aug 30, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

and no

They Royals won’t try it. Lol. :(

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by 306008 on Aug 30, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's too good as a reliever to start

Just like Soria unexpectedly was.

Stupid, retrograde thinking, but very widespread.

And the size thing too. But according to everything i’ve read he has 3 pitches, even if the 3rd is a work in progress.

by kcbottom9th on Aug 30, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Aug 27, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya I know its way more fun discussing how Willie Bloomquist sucks

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by kcscoliny on Aug 28, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Collins

to replace both Texeira and everyone else whose name isn’t Soria

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Aug 27, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Dwyer

but Crow’s next for me.

R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9

by doublestix on Aug 28, 2010 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Colon!

Just wait until he hits at NWA next year. I’m calling .315 with 20 HRs.

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by 306008 on Aug 28, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you man

He already played a grueling NCAA season and has hit well in hitting depressed Wilmington. I see big things from in NW Arkansas next year too.

I loathe David Glass

by RoyalJHWKR on Aug 28, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question:
Collins fastball touches 94 while regularly sitting 91-92 mph his motion is deceptive and appears almost like a short lefthanded Tim Lincecum.

I’ve never seen Collins, but I’ve heard this comparison before. At this point, most people would say there’s no downside to being compared to Time Lincecum, but when Lincecum was drafted, lots of scouts (maybe most) looked at that motion and said “injury waiting to happen.” Now, I do realize that body-type was a big part of that concern, but does anyone worry about Collins’ delivery leading to undue anatomical stress? Or, is his motion like Lincecum’s in some way that doesn’t generate this concern?

by kcemigre on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

  • Time=Tim (or “Timmie,” if you prefer).

by kcemigre on Aug 28, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen him either

But I did hear something about Linecum’s physical conditioning being poor lately and that’s why he’s struggling. Do you think with that body type Timmy is worn down and can’t train? Now, I don’t think it’ll be a problem for Collins as he’s not a starter.

I think that the concerns on Linecum during the draft were becuase he was being considered so high. The Giants (I heard Baird would have…) gambled and it’s paid off so far. Linecum routinely goes deep into pitch counts and throws lots of innings…. I don’t think we shoudl worry about Collins.

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by 306008 on Aug 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not quite as crazy as Lincecums

but he incorporates a very high leg kick. I’ve only seen him a couple times on milb.tv I have yet to see him live I’ll try to get some live video of it at by blog sometime soon.

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by kcscoliny on Aug 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool.

I’ll be interested in your comments after you’ve seen Collins.

I don’t think a high kick would be cause for concern. But (and I’m no scout or expert in pitching mechanics, so please enlighten me if there’s better terminology for this stuff), if the comparison has anything to do with the way that Lincecum keeps his arm back and then “whips” it around late in his motion… well, then I could see there being reasons to worry about injuries.

by kcemigre on Aug 28, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about it too much

There shouldn’t be as much wear and tear on Tim Collins pitching 60-80 innings per year VS Tim Lincecum pitching 220+

I loathe David Glass

by RoyalJHWKR on Aug 28, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure when, and I realize his ML impact will be minimized by his role, but

I think you got to add Louis Coleman fairly soon.

I still see this guy as the eventual RH set up man to Soria. If you believe in sabermetrics, that role can be nearly as important as the closer.

Really looking for reasons to watch the Royals in September. Right now, it’s Kila, Gordon, and Butler ABs, and Soria, O’Sullivan,. and Greinke pitching appearances. Would love to get a look at both Collins and Coleman down the stretch.

"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009

"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876

by loyal2sdad on Aug 28, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Voted for Collins

I know there are different aspects to voting for top prospect – tools, ceiling, potential and all that stuff. Here is what separated it out for me with Collins over Crow or Dwyer. Collins, Dwyer and Crow are about the same age. They all have experience at AA. Collins has been dominate in AA and AAA this year. Crow really struggled and has done that well in Wilmington. Dwyer has had a great year until being injured. Collins hasn’t been injured at all. Neither Crow or Dwyer can say that.

Pitchers have had weird windups in baseball since it began. Collins has a true swing and miss pitch with his curve. BA recently ranked him as 2nd best reliever in all of pro ball. Yes, he is small but that hasn’t stopped him at any level.

I like Collins for results and think he will do very well in KC’s 2011 bullpen.

by daveyork on Aug 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we get some love for Johnny G.?

2B hitting .320? Or Lough, who’s been hot and starting to show patience? I’m not saying they’re top 10 material, but shouldn’t they be considered in the same sentence as a reliever, a guy who has been demoted, and a guy who hasn’t even played yet?

Just saying.

by Dadunca on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, not top 10

but i’d take him over the relievers being mentioned.

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by doublestix on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

I like Collins but I can’t but a reliever over a potential Pedroia-light 2B.

by deezle on Aug 30, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwyer for me

Power lefty, three potentially plus pitches, great performance in first pro season.

I wouldn’t be surprised if by this time next year, Dwyer is considered our best pitching prospect.

Also, not sure how Aaron Crow gets dumped for a reliever in Collins. Crow was a top 50 overall prospect entering the season and still has plus stuff. His year hasn’t been as great as everyone hoped, but I think it’s too early for him to drop this far.

by deezle on Aug 30, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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