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Reviewing The 2010 Goals of the Kansas City Royals: Evaluating Chris Getz

It wasn't initially clear, at least to me, what the real aim of the Teahen-Getz-Fields trade was for the Royals. It looked like something of a Teahen salary dump, but when it came out that the Royals tossed in money, that was less of an explanation. A part of me thought that the team may have been interested in Josh Fields, but that wasn't an obvious assumption, and Fields's long injury struggles made it tough to know. In the end, the only idea really left standing was that the Royals were interested in Chris Getz, a white scrappy old-school beloved semi-young infielder who was cheap. Getz wasn't exactly handed a starting job in 2010, but he more or less was handed a full-time spot on the roster. The Royals made it plain that they wanted to see what Getz could do on a regular basis.

So how did he do? How did the Royals do?

  • Playing time: Getz played his 70th game today, so this hasn't been a complete success. Getz had some minor injuries back in April, and he also did a few days in Omaha. Since the Royals play the wonderful Yuni every day, Getz and Aviles split time for much of the season, which I really don't have any problem with. It's a bit odd that he hasn't played more, but then again he hasn't really earned it. Typical half-way Royals I suppose.
  • Offense: Offensively Getz has been even worse than expected. Prior to a 1-3 game on Monday, Getz posted a .234/.299/.271 line. This is his age 26 triple slash line. In every way, he's hit worse than he did in 2009, when he was already bad. Getz does what he can to get on-base, but he has absolutely no ability to drive the ball at all. Getz's LD rate of 17% isn't screamingly bad, but when you look at his spray chart you get a notion of what we're dealing with. When Getz hit .260 whatever last year, we could sorta look at his numbers and say, "well, maybe he can hit .280 and walk a little, maybe more." That might still happen, but it might not. It didn't in 2010. He simply doesn't appear to be a Major League level hitter. As a side note, it's a bit odd that Getz is running less this year.
  • Defense: Getz's UZR numbers aren't good, but they aren't awful. I can't recall too many complaints about him in the game threads. I don't think he's a wiz out there, and I don't think he's a defensive asset. But I don't think he's a problem afield either. That's all fine and good... except that he probably needs to be a wiz to be worth a roster spot. He's certainly not pushing the Royals forward to contention if he's merely average defensively.

So in sum, the "lets see what Chris Getz can do" project really hasn't paid off in the short or, apparently, long term. The Royals haven't really spent anything on Getz, insomuchas they were ready to part ways with Getz anyway. Nevertheless, even in the OMG scoring is down 2% its the new deadball/real baseball post-steroids era you simply can't play a guy with a .299 OBP and pretend its a good thing.



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Been screaming this all year

trading Teahen may have made sense because you don’t want to pay an average at best player as much as he was going to command at this point in his career, but at least in Teahen you can pretty much know what you have, and he can play four positions. Getz may be cheaper, but really isn’t that much younger, and isn’t anywhere near the player Teahen was/is. Which is saying something.

Getz isn’t a major leaguer.

by scobes on Sep 6, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Getz is my least favorite Royal mainly because all he can do is steal bases...

so from this point on I am renaming him to Nancy Getz.

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by averagegatsby on Sep 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a major leaguer

I suppose one could argue that if he were a better defender, played some shortstop, and could get his OBP up to a less-than-horrible 320 or so, you could live with him as a utility infielder.

299 OBP, and league avg defense at 2B? That indeed is not good enough to justify a utility IF role.

"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009

"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876

by loyal2sdad on Sep 7, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Do the Royals actively look for this kind of player

or does joining the Royals turn people into this kind of player? I don’t know, but I am sick of weak-bat, low OBP guys who would not even stand out in Omaha. When Getz bats, he reminds me of a guy who came to the game with his girlfriend and won a contest to get a major league AB. On the rare occasions when he squares it up, he has Kendall power, at best. And since he is only an average defender, I would be pleased to have him vanish from the 25 man roster next season.

by Black and Gold on Sep 7, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

We just wanted Teahan gone

It’s like if you have an lawn mower you never use and give it to a neighbor. Only, the neighbor isn’t one to take something for nothing, so he gives you an ugly old coat from his closet. You don’t really want the coat, but what are you going to do? That’s the way these kinds of transactions are done. So you say thank you and take the coat thinking maybe you could keep it in your car trunk for emergencies or something. Only, even that limited role doesn’t work out very well after you discover that the coat CAN’T HIT FOR SHIT!
I never got around to actively disliking Getz. I just kind of sigh when he steps into the batter’s box. Kendall, now. I actively dislike him.

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by LaFLamme on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

He's pretty worthless

The Teahen trade was worth a try. Teahen wasn’t worth his coming salary to the Royals, so it made sense to trade him. Two youngish players with limited upside were about all Teahen was worth given his salary, team control and production. So Moore got what he could and we’ve figured out that Getz pretty much sucks, and he was the better part of what the Royals traded for. Fields is likely worse. At least Getz can pinch run. Fields is a horrible fielder who can’t get on base and has a bit of power. Basically he’s a youngish guy who plays like an old Jose Guillen.

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by Scott McKinney on Sep 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Very tru.

Like Tru TV. You are spot on NY, spot on.

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by 306008 on Sep 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did the Royals kick in to trade Teahen?

Was it 1 mil or 2 mil?

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by Warden11 on Sep 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am indifferent on Getz.

With so much crap on the roster and removed from the roster to this point, it’s just nice not to be wanting Kendall or JoGui not to play… So I’ve been okay with Getz.

Honestly, he’s keeping the spot warm until Giavotella gets here…

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by 306008 on Sep 7, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

What does Facebook think about him?

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by 306008 on Sep 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

stud

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Sep 7, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getz!

Getz is still pre-arbitration eligible, so he will cost nothing but a 40-man roster spot (which do not appear to be in demand) and a non-guaranteed league minimum salary. He is probably better than he has performed this year, so he will likely stick around until a better stopgap 2B comes along. Of course, 2B is one of the easiest positions to fill, even on the cheap, so I would not be surprised if the Royals find a cheap improvement among the free agent class (Orlando Hudson, Felipe Lopez, Mark Ellis, Christian Guzman) and non-tenders (Kelly Johnson was a steal last year following his non-tender).

by Gopherballs on Sep 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

but the 40 man roster spots may actually be in demand very soon

see Rany’s latest post

"We're gonna win with pitching and defense" General Manager Dayton Moore, circa winter 2009

"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876

by loyal2sdad on Sep 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are about 12-15 expendable players on the 40-roster

and maybe four guys with more than a remote chance of being selected in the Rule 5 draft and kept on a MLB roster for entire season (plus DDJ and Kendall on the 60-day DL). Getz is one of the expendables, but he is at least halfway down that list.

by Gopherballs on Sep 7, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hernandez, Miller, Parraz, Dyson . . .

Other potential non-tenders (or trade chips prior to non-tendering) include Bannister and Davies (I would bet only one sticks around, most likely the younger and cheaper Davies) and maybe Pena if management has decided that May and a catcher to be named later will split time until Kendall returns. It is unlikely that both Maier and Blanco would make the team next spring (both appear out of options) and would guess that the team knows Maier enough to make that decision without the need for a few weeks of spring training games.

Removing a player from the 40-man roster does not necessarily mean he leaves the organization. Players who have not been outrighted previously would remain the team if they clear waivers, and those who would become major league or minor league free agents could still sign minor league deals with the Royals (the Duckworth special).

by Gopherballs on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way they take Dyson off the roster.

He’s rule 5 eligible and speedy OFers (even without power) are very hideable on the bench. Besides, the FO is in love with him.

by BrRoyal on Sep 7, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

speedy OF types who cannot hit are a dime a dozen

He is already age 26 and has posted OPS of 676 (AAA) and 647 (AA) in the upper minors. In the age of 12 and 13 man bullpens, few teams actually use a roster spot on a fifth outfielder anymore, and those that do can sign a minor league free agent rather than tying up a roster spot with the Rule 5 restrictions.

If removed from the 40-man roster, he would have to clear waivers before he could be outrighted, and if no one claimed him on waivers, no one would pick him in the Rule 5 draft.

by Gopherballs on Sep 7, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's your list?

I think mine would include about 30 guys.

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by Warden11 on Sep 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The nail in Getz's coffin will be the subpar fielding

He had OPSs of 647, 763, and 814 in the minors. 670 last year, which might be acceptable if he plays good defense and steals bases, especially if there’s a reason to think he is still developing (being 26). But the problem with that is he doesn’t appear to play good defense – negative WAR for his career at 2B per FG, TotalZone likes him a little better.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 7, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

If there's one thing this organization won't tolerate

it’s crappy fielding, terrible hitting middle infielders

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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We Not Only

Grow them, we import them………on purpose……….to start. The saddest part is that until Colon is ready, the current crop is not blocking anyone. I like Aviles, but he should not be your best MIF.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 7, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Bianchi next year after his TJ?

Do you think he is an answer? Or is he too injury prone?

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by 306008 on Sep 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

When is he back?

He’s not even been to AAA yet, so he’ll need a while there, plus clearing any rust out of his play.

by kcbottom9th on Sep 8, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wish I Knew

More about him. With his injury setback he’s at least a year away, and I seem to remember reading that he might not stick at SS. It seems like you hear that about every SS, C and CF, though. Looks like he hasn’t shown much power and has around a 3/1 K/BB in A+ and AA, so that doesn’t sound very encouraging.

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by philofthenorth on Sep 8, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh,

it was worth a shot, he sucks, we move on…i guess he’s not Brian Roberts-lite after all.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I thik it's safe to say that Getz will never be a NY Yankee at this point.

"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~

by TheK-man on Sep 12, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

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