How good is the Billy Butler contract for the Royals?
Billy Butler signed a contract extension with the Royals on Saturday for four years with a club option for a fifth year. According to Bob Dutton, this is how the contract breaks out:
2011: $3M + $2M signing bonus
2012: $8M
2013: $8M
2014: $8M
2015: $12.5M club option or $1M buyout
That is $30 million guaranteed over four years. With the option exercised, it would be $41.5 million over five years. At first glance, this looks like a good deal for the Royals. But is it? And if so, how good is it?
The methodology for determining the dollar value of a player's production is fairly simple and has been used on this site and elsewhere many times. Each year the average market value of WAR is determined by how much free agents that year were paid. For 2010 it was around $4 million. Current estimates of the 2011 value of WAR are about $4.5-5 million. Therefore, in 2011, a 3 WAR player would be worth around $13.5-15 million. To be conservative, I'm going to start with a 2011 value of WAR at $4.5 million.
But the value of WAR is not static from year to year. We are in a period of regular salary inflation, which is expected to continue, especially with the economy improving. The common estimate for MLB salary inflation is 10%, so I will go with that.
Players in their arbitration years are not paid full market value. The rule of thumb is that in a player's first arbitration year, he gets 40% of his market value, 60% in his second and 80% in his third. So I applied these discounts to Billy Butler's 2011, 2012 and 2013 seasons.
So how good is Billy Butler going to be over the course of this contract? Well, at age 23, he totalled 2.6 fWAR and at age 24, he racked up 3.4 fWAR. We really don't know how well he'll perform going forward. Given his age, he could continue to improve. His power could improve considerably, or not. Given his poor defense, a move to DH shouldn't hurt his value much, but it could a little. And then there's always the possibility of injury. So below, I've calculated Billy Butler's value based on if he's a 2.5, 3.0, 3.5 or 4.0 WAR player.
The final calculation that must be made is a discount in the contract total. When a player gets a long-term guaranteed contract, he's getting safety, security and surety, while the team is buying risk. Therefore any long-term contract is going to give the player something less than his full value. As is commonly used, I'm going to discount the player's total value by 15% to compare it to the contract.
| Year | WAR value | Actual Contract | 2.5 WAR | 3.0 WAR | 3.5 WAR | 4.0 WAR |
| 2011 | 4.5 | 5 | 4.5 | 5.4 | 6.3 | 7.2 |
| 2012 | 4.95 | 8 | 7.4 | 8.9 | 10.4 | 11.9 |
| 2013 | 5.445 | 8 | 10.9 | 13.1 | 15.2 | 17.4 |
| 2014 | 5.9895 | 8 | 15.0 | 18.0 | 21.0 | 24.0 |
| 2015 | 6.58845 | 12.5 | 16.5 | 19.8 | 23.1 | 26.4 |
| 4-year Total | 37.8 | 45.3 | 52.9 | 60.5 | ||
| 5-year Total | 54.3 | 65.1 | 76.0 | 86.8 | ||
| 4-year Discounted Total | 30 | 32.1 | 38.5 | 45.0 | 51.4 | |
| 5-year Discounted Total | 41.5 | 46.1 | 55.3 | 64.6 | 73.8 | |
I think it is clear that Butler's contract is an extremely good deal for the Royals. Even if Butler is only a 2.5 WAR player on average over the next four or five years, his $30 million (or $41.5 million with the option exercised) contract would be a bargain for the Royals when he would have a value of $32.1 million (or $46.1 million for five years). And if he's a 3 WAR player, then the contract becomes even better at a value of $38.5 million (or $55.3 million for five years).
While the guaranteed years on the contract are great for the Royals, the team option really puts it over the top. A $12.5 million option in 2015 is just crazy. Billy Butler is very conservatively worth $13M per year on the free agent market right now. In 2015 even with no improvement with salary inflation he'll be worth upwards of $20 million, and quite possibly more. So the Royals have a pretty cheap option for 2015 with no risk.
And of course a good value long-term contract gives a player very good trade value. Many teams would love to take on this contract either now or in future years. A future trade of Butler at $8 million per year with a $12.5 millon club option would be very easy and would garner a great return.
But that's only a possibility. Maybe the Royals will just keep him as part of a good young team. And that would be easy to do because this contract really is ridiculously good for the Royals both now and very likely in the future.
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I can't tell what you did in that table
Where is 5.4 coming from under 3 WAR? If he produces 3 WAR at $4.5M per WAR, he’s worth $13.5M. If you subtract from that his actual contract of $5M, there’s a surplus of $8.5M. Or if you discount the player’s value by 15%, you get $11.475M leaving a surplus of $6.475M. I couldn’t find a combination to get me to $5.4M.
Also
Why is the contract value per year going up so quickly each year when his WAR is staying the same and he’s getting paid more?
The average WAR per year that you had was 5.22
So if Butler produces 2.5 WAR per year for 4 years, that’s 10 WAR total for a value of $52.2M which would be discounted to $44.4M. You have 37.8 and 32.1. We’re definitely doing something different.
Interesting discussion you've got going.
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by Warden11 on Jan 23, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 10 recs
Butler Forecast
BP had Butler forecast for 15.7 WAR over the years of this contract before last season…and that forecast included a 2.4 WAR last year (well below what he did).
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jan 23, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions
KC Star
The option is worth $12.5 million, including escalators that could boost it to $14.5 million, with a $1 million buyout.
Checkout Royals minor league notes at www.14for77.blogspot.com
I was hoping that the deal wouldn't be backloaded
The way this contract is structured is great. The 5th year option is a bonus I wasn’t expecting.
Christmas comes late for Royals fans
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 23, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
If Butler hits like many think he will
This deal has to make Reds fans want to throw up.
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Its a pretty good deal but
the Royals should have added a bigger signing bonus and another option year or a 5 year contract and the option year.
Go Royals!
You realize that both parties have to agree on it, right?
Chances are Billy wants to be a FA when he is in his prime, for the chance for one big contract. Maybe he’d be willing to sign that big contract with the royals, but why would he agree to signing through his entire prime? It makes no sense for him.
Now the signing bonus portion I agree with, but this is a really good deal.
True
to be fair, he probably did sign away his entire prime already
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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 23, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
His BP card shows a rapid decline beginning in 2016.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jan 23, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
Haven’t looked at the new cards yet. Was just going off what I’ve read about general player aging.
I’m also surprised that Billy Butler is represented by Master P.
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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 23, 2011 5:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s from last year; he was WELL above projections in 2010 so it should be interesting to see how his projection changes.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jan 23, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
He links to this
But not the incompetence tournament?
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Therefore, he's dead to me
j/k Sam.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 23, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Did I miss the finals?
(August 31, 2010 8:34 PM PDT) Jojothebeachbum: "WP FTW"
by Jojothebeachbum on Jan 24, 2011 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Posted 8 days ago
You may know me as NYRoyal.
by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yuni is closer to Guillen than he has any right to be
Can’t wait to read the closing remarks
Wait, I have to write closing remarks?
I guess I’ll say something when I start the Dayton Moore Competence Tournament.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
It was a labor of love to verify with too many numbers how good this move was for the Royals.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 23, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
For what it is worth
I like this deal a lot. Unless he gets hurt, I’m not sure how he won’t either remain the same or get better. He can’t get any slower….
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Tonya Harding's boyfriend
thinks otherwise.
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by Jojothebeachbum on Jan 23, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
He does seem pretty durable.
He played through the hand injury last year, even if it affected his power. And he’s not going to break any fingers stealing 2nd.
The economy is getting better?
I guess the stimulus spending could only hinder the economy for so long. Its effects are wearing off!
I'm tempted to delete this incendiary political comment
I’m sure this was meant in a lighthearted way, but this is the kind of thing that could lead to an extended, heated political debate. Will doesn’t want that on this site and I agree. We all debate and argue about baseball stuff enough. We don’t need add politics to the mix. So it would be great if you could avoid statements like that going forward.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 23, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Claps
Thank you. I approve of this space as a politics-free zone. I deal every day with politics—at the moment very, very depressing politics—and I’d just as soon not have to deal with that during my diversionary reading.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jan 24, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Do you work at the Capitol?
I work a block away at Little City.
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 24, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Weird…
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 25, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
It would be great
if he could just avoid statements altogether.
I thought to myself...
“Hmmm that sounds like something NYRoyal would say…but I don’t know who this Scott guy is….NO, THERE’S ANOTHER ONE” :)
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by Jojothebeachbum on Jan 24, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I hope the loss of anonymity doesn't turn me soft
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, but no boxers
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
or he said
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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 24, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'm tempted to call people out on this site.
From time to time, I see political comments on here, but they never seem to be substantive political comments, more just bashing conservatives, Republicans, Sarah Palin, or the governor of Nebraska.
So, political zings are okay, as long as they are directed at conservatives, correct? It makes sense. I mean, you’re all liberals, so it makes sense that you would not only be close-minded, but you would try to censor someone that disagrees with you.
by hawkinscm87 on Jan 24, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
For the record, Scott...
I don’t know or care what your political beliefs are. I’m not suggesting you were trying to censor me. I understand you have a responsibility, and I understand my comment was borderline. But some people that applauded your comment are doing so because of a bias, I believe.
by hawkinscm87 on Jan 24, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i rec'd his comment and im as conservative as they come
i just have no desire to see those discussions on here.
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jan 24, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I agree too. Political commentary tends to get vicious and nasty,
especially on the intarwebs. We don’t need it here. And for the record, I rec’d his comment too, and if I had to choose, I’d say I middle of the road to conservative.
Another moderate-conservative Jan Meyers Republican
who can swallow moderate-liberals like Dennis Moore) against political comments on baseball blogs. If you like political stuff and baseball stuff on the same blog, go to Baseball Crank.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
Here
I don’t think it is too bad here at all. The only one I can remember is a short sequence about the governor of Nebraska. There are definitely sites where it plays a bigger role (e.g., Baseball Prospectus, where it shows up as supporting labor over owners, mainly) but not so much here.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jan 24, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
That rant about the governor
put me over the edge. It was unchecked political bashing, and now a little joke is getting the maelstrom.
by hawkinscm87 on Jan 24, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed on both.
I don’t care one way or the other but just keep it all out, I want baseball talk.
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"getting the maelstrom"?
I didn’t tear into you. Just trying to let you know what our policy is. I missed this thing you two are talking about. We miss a lot. But I know we have shut down a number of political discussions regardless of their liberal or conservative nature.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't talking about you.
I’m talking about personal attacks.
by hawkinscm87 on Jan 24, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well hopefully we’ll all clean up our acts.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Again
the use of the word “we” is unnecessary. Do you think I’m lying, or careless with my words? I try to be clear.
by hawkinscm87 on Jan 24, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure what you’re saying. What I was saying is that going forward hopefully everyone will avoid political discussions and personal attacks.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I was saying
That you should not use the word “we” if you, yourself were not the problem. Hopefully, you’re right, going forward about everyone. But I do think light-hearted jokes should be allowed, especially if they are not bashing anyone (whether they be on here or in public office).
That Was The
Royal "we"
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 24, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
When I started my blog, I had always intended for that to be the URL, but it was taken. Goddammit.
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 24, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
NO POLITICS
I don't want to hear your opinion on monarchies
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 25, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Here in Spain
I’m totally in favor of the monarchy. Supporting the royal family costs a few million euros a year, and the King is worth much more than that. He provides somebody neutral that everyone can look to as the personification of the country, without having any actual power.
The current King, Juan Carlos, is the best modern king. He keeps things humble and low-key, and his basic job is international public relations. You know, if we want to buy natural gas cheap from Algeria, we send the King to meet with their boss and everybody’s honor is gratified.
Franco nominated him back in like ‘67 to succeed him, and the old sonofabitch didn’t kick off until ’75. Juan Carlos thereupon disregarded everything Franco had told him and initiated a process toward democracy that ended in the constitution of 1977 and the fair, honest elections of 1978.
Juan Carlos’s next brush with history was February 23, 1981 (every Spaniard has this date memorized) when elements of the Army, displeased with democratization, tried to pull a coup d’etat, rolling the tanks through the streets of Valencia. Juan Carlos went on TV to say that he disauthorized the coup and that he would abdicate rather than serve as puppet for a military dictatorship. The coup, which had taken over the Parliament building in Madrid and was holding the MPs hostage, then collapsed.
Most recently, a couple of years ago, Hugo Chávez was smarting off at one of those Ibero-American conferences, and kept interrupting J.C. while he was speaking. J.C. told him insultingly, impatiently and disgustedly, “Why don’t you shut up?” Daniel Ortega then got up to call the previous Spanish elected government (Aznar) Fascist, and the whole Spanish delegation walked out, led by the King.
Finally, the King is good advertising for Spain as a tourist destination, 20% of the Spanish economy. He skis every year in the Pyrenees, goes hunting every year in the dehesas on the central plateau, goes sailing every year off Mallorca, and plays golf every year at those famous courses down south whose names I don’t remember. That gets massive coverage in all the celebrity magazines. You’d be surprised at how many people want to do the same thing that royalty does.
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by Juancho on Jan 26, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
how did I miss this?
I live in Nebraska. Can anyone tell me when/where this happened? Thanks
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Scott does this mean you will not be allowing any more bashing about....
GMDM’s religion & faith as well??? That would be refreshing, but that would have to be ceased by Will 1st as we luvs to include those jabs in his writings from time to time…………………….
"As a Karate expert, I will not talk about any of you." Jimmy McMillan
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jan 24, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
meant* "He" not "we....
"As a Karate expert, I will not talk about any of you." Jimmy McMillan
by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't seen any bashing about GMDM's religion & faith
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe there should be
if Dayton is considering being a born-again Christian as a factor in the signings and trades he makes. I don’t think that he is doing so, but others may disagree. I kinda wonder why we don’t have many black guys; I don’t think he’s consciously racist—look at the Hispanics, some of color, and the two Hawaiian-Americans.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
There are disproportionately less blacks in baseball.
And if you take out the blacks from the Dominican they are almost nonexistent. The NBA and NFL dominate that market.
So he got reverse-NYRoyaled?
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 25, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
@@@Stimulate This@
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 24, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Weird,
I was going to link to this in my new entry, wherein I had intended to refer to you as Scott McKinney only to come over here and see that the name change is in full effect.
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I'm finally out of the closet
Surprised the wife though.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 AM EST up reply actions
were you wearing the shades and boxers when you came out?
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 24, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Shades
The boxers are out.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Euro briefs/banana hammock now post-outing?
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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 25, 2011 5:08 AM EST up reply actions
I have spent many years hanging around the locker room
(no homo) at the indoor pool here in my neighborhood in Barcelona, where I do about a mile a day (64 lengths) several days a week. People here do not wear banana hammock briefs, as a general rule. They tend to wear boxers. Jockey shorts aren’t common, though they exist.
They’re generally not circumcised, in case you were wondering.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
I'm sad about it
(as if that matters)
Losing “devil_fingers” was tough, but each successive loss of moniker is worse. The “man” is winning.
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 25, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I like this deal.
Butler is a consistently good hitter, and he can play first base adequately. Lock him in cheap. Five years is the optimal time to hold on to Billy, since he’s the kind of player who declines early. And, for Chrissakes, play Alex Gordon in right field, Betemit in left, Avilés at third, and Kila at DH. When Moose comes up, move Avilés to second. That leaves center field for Frenchy. Ouch, but we’re not hoping to win anything this year. Besides, there’s a 10% chance that Frenchy may not suck.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
Juancho is back in Barcelona
after spending a month near Nashville with my folks. Fuckin’ Delta Airlines bumped me off my flight in Atlanta, and I had to wait three more hours there (spending $24 on beer) before flying to Paris and changing planes at Charles de Gaulle, a total of six wasted hours and a race through CDG in an hour and ten minutes, including another trip through security, to make the connection. To top it off, they left my suitcase in Atlanta. At least they know where it is, and they’re supposed to deliver it today. I got a check for $540 for the multiple inconveniences.
I bought a Royals cap for ten bucks at the outlet mall in Lebanon, Tennessee, of all places.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
Frenchy in CF? What did they brainwash you with down there in the American southeast? No offense intended.
by Steve Hovley on Jan 24, 2011 6:49 AM EST up reply actions
They're going to have to play him somewhere.
I’d rather not play him at all, and put Blanco or Cain there, or even Mitch, but Frenchy’s going to play. We’re going to lose a lot of games anyway.
People in middle Tennessee aren’t that big into baseball. It’s NFL, then college football, then Nascar, then college basketball, then pro ice hockey, then pro basketball, then pro wrestling, then women’s college basketball, then monster trucks, then MMA, then pro baseball, and then golf. If they like baseball they’re probably Braves fans, with some support for the Reds and Cards.
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by Juancho on Jan 24, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My Sister In
Chattanooga is a rabid Braves fan now.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 24, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Top sports in Barcelona:
1. Soccer. 2. Soccer. 3. Soccer. 4. Spanish pro basketball. 5. NBA. 6. Formula 1. 7. Tennis. 8. Cycling. 9. Motorcycle racing. 10. Golf.
I may have basketball too high on the list, but it’s a gut feeling. Bullfighting’s not considered a sport.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
The daily paper here (La Vanguardia)
runs the results, with a brief article, of every Lakers game, since Pau Gasol is the local hero. The Lakers ought to do something to expand their presence in this market while they have the chance.
"Crimes don't pay no one but the lawyers." --Last words of executed murderer Ernest Gaither Jr., 1947
Are we implementing the name change?
The prophecy has been fulfilled.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 24, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions
It looks like mine has been implemented
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I was wondering who this Scott McKinney figure was. Royals Review is getting serious.
A snark by any other name
would sting just as bad.
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by Jojothebeachbum on Jan 24, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
God, I sure hope so!
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
But I'll miss the "Mr. New York" references
“Mr. New York” wears boxers and shades
“Scott McKinney” wears golf-shirts and jeans (I reckon). He might add sunglasses-with-straps if he wants to impress the Royals’ front office (I smell a McKinney-Moore reunion coming up. Now if we can get Banny back in the fold, the triangle will be complete!).
Making watching baseball as fun as doing your taxes.
My Twitter feed.
by Matt Klaassen on Jan 24, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Scott McKinney's daughter's favorite player is Banny!
The prophecy has been fulfilled.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 24, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I would wear anything Mr. Moore wanted me to wear
He’s dreamy.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
But will you still be eating cheese and drinking wine in galleries
while deciding whether a Rembrandt or a drawing by a five-year old is more valuable?
Making watching baseball as fun as doing your taxes.
My Twitter feed.
by Matt Klaassen on Jan 24, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
At times
But I’d probably spend more time at the ballet and performance art exhibitions, with the rest of the NYC sabermetricians.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
NYC bloggers usually occupy
their moms’ buildings’ supers’ closets or basement storage areas. They sublet them for $1500-2000 a month. It’s usually a pretty good deal.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 24, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
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I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Figured this was about global warming
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on Jan 24, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, Pasting From
Word does not help formatting. Drat.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
When you create a fanpost, pasting from Word or Excel does help with formatting though. Does miss somethings however. But in the comments, it doesn’t pick up formatting.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Only The Programmer
Knows for sure.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 25, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
I would say
That this contract does “lock him up” for at least 3 years-or through his arbitration years. I don’t think that there is any way that the Royals would trade him prior to the 4th year, and even then only if they are in Salary dump mode, like this year. (I can’t see any way we could be in that mode then, but I probably would not have seen this coming 3 years ago either. I would hope that would not be the case)
The big upswing in salary comes in the club option year, so if there was an injury disaster, or a performance issue, that year would not hurt us. But if Billy adds a little power and continues to progress it would be there if we wanted it.
Dayton has made some club friendly deals with recent good players (Greinke, DDJ Soria) but let’s see if Soria , Butler, or the next guy that he “locks up” will actually play it out for the Royals.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
As long as you don't call me a Yankee fan, it's all good
You may know me as NYRoyal.
by Scott McKinney on Jan 24, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I Have Three
Friends named Greg; none of them answer to that. They are universally known as Doog, Animal and Bean. I’ve tried to call them Greg now that we’ve grown up gotten older, but it just doesn’t work.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 25, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions






















