Eric Hosmer Finishes Third in American League Rookie of the Year Voting

by Freneau on Nov 14, 2011 2:04 PM EST in Kansas City Royals News

This afternoon the Baseball Writers' Association of America announced the winners of the Rookie of the Year Award. Our Eric Hosmer finished third in the voting. The winner was Jeremy Hellickson of the Rays. Mark Trumbo, who played a lot, finished second.

	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	K	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG
2011 - Eric Hosmer	128	523	66	153	27	3	19	78	34	82	11	5	.293	.334	.465

Hosmer, who made his debut at age 21, was ranked the #8 prospect in baseball prior to the season by Baseball America.

Hosmer received 4 first place votes, the third most of any candidate. The Hos also garnered 4 second place votes and 5 votes for third. Hellickson received 17 first place votes. Last week, when SB Nation bloggers voted, Hosmer finished second, behind Michael Pineda. The Mariner rookie finished a surprising 5th in the "real" balloting however.

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I will never forget this day.

Next year when Hos homers off of Hellickson to send the Royals on to win the World Series  and make Sweeptheleg $400 richer, we can all give these idiot writers a big F.U.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 14, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions

well done

Chen for Cooperstown

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 14, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

I just failed miserably...

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 14, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions

Get Used To

It.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 14, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions

I've been a Royals fan for over 35 years.

I’m getting the hang of it.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 14, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions

I mean how could you not vote for Trumbo over Hosmer

Chen for Cooperstown

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 14, 2011 2:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Hosmer's batting average was higher than Trumbo's OBP.

Great job, voters.

by NotAHippie on Nov 14, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but

The power

Chen for Cooperstown

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 14, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

RBIzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 14, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

This video is so jerky, I can't tell if he's hitting that ball, or striking out.

He kinda looks like Jim Thome in a weird way.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 14, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions

It's all the same to me

Chen for Cooperstown

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 14, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions

I'm just happy -

that I can get back to my Solar Sox game now.

by Diggity Dawg on Nov 14, 2011 2:23 PM EST reply actions

they play at "hohokam" stadium

wut

Chen for Cooperstown

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 14, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions

Tucson, right?

I’ve seen a game there

by sterlingice on Nov 14, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions

Nope, it is on a reservation near Phoenix

The Native Americans and their casinos are the people with extra money for stadiums in AZ

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

How the hell did Pineda only finish 5th?

by deezle on Nov 14, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions

I was gonna say something very similar...

If I had a vote I would have gone

Pineda, Hosmer, Ackley, Hellickson

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Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095

by averagegatsby on Nov 14, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions

why no lawrie?

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

If I had to guess

it was because he played for approximately 5 minutes. Had he done the same for a whole season he would be a runaway ROY and All-Star. Then, if he had done it all career, he would walk into the HoF.

But it was like 40 games, right (albeit an amazing 40 games)?

by dejezeus on Nov 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions

im more impressed by greatness even over a smaller time frame...

than i am by mediocrity played the entire season. lawrie did everything well…hitting, baserunning and fielding. all that being said, i’d still have voted for pineda without question

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed.

Then again, baseball awards are commonly weird choices, so Pineda is probably too smart of a choice.

by dejezeus on Nov 14, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions

I forgot about him.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 14, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

pineda, lawrie, ackley, hosmer, nova

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

For all his "power"

Trumbo’s SLG is only slightly higher than Hos’s.

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by cmkeller on Nov 14, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions

Just checked--.291 OBP will get you a ROY vote?

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

It's Not On

The scoreboard…….duh!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 15, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

Good for Hosmer

Nice to see a Royals player get some recognition. How many crappy Rookies of the Year did the Royals have? Berroa was one of them, if I remember right.

Hosmer is going to knock twenty homers a year over the right-field fence at Kaufmann, and twenty more over the various right-field fences around America.

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions

how dare you forget bob hamelin?

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

Been smokin' the herb

Just forgot about him. I shall now scourge myself.

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions

add those 40 to the 20 or so oppo and CF shots and we've got ourselves a star

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions

Hellickson's a good pick

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions

i disagree

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

How come? He's a pretty good pitcher

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions

29 starts, 189 IP

SO/BB 117-72, ERA 2.95, WHIP 1.15.

A few too many walks, but that’s a pretty solid #2 starter there. Can he repeat? Who knows.

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions

pretty good doesnt mean the best...

i just dont see how one can justify voting him over pineda, ackley, hosmer, lawrie or even trumbo for that matter…unless of course hellickson has the skillset to maintain a 223 BABIP and 82 LOB%. By WAR, Hellickson was significantly less valuable than greg holland

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions

.223 BABIP?

No one can keep that up. That seems extremely extreme.

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Nov 14, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions

he might be able to keep it in the 255-270 range long term, there are some guys who do that

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions

put that there...drop the LOB% and you have what, a 4 ERA pitcher probably?

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions

i think his FIP was around 4.40

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

yeah...i was trying to factor in giving him some sort of credit for a BABIP skill...

that you were talking about him possibly having…i may be off in how much of a difference that’d make

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

i think its possible he stays in that range long term

has swing and miss stuff, causes a lot of pop ups, its possible.

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions

we'll see....

the scouting reports had him as having swing and miss stuff and pretty good control…he really showed neither this year

according to FIP and xfFIP hellickson wasnt really any better than duffy this year…its amazing how a 100+ point difference in BABIP will change the perception

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions

hellickson had swing and miss stuff this year

just didn’t put guys away for the strikeout. he was 24th among all starters in swinging K rate.

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions

correction, swinging strike rate

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions

does that normally correct itself over time or does he lack a strikeout pitch?

is a changeup which i believe is his best pitch induce swing and miss more earlier in the count?

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions

sort of goes into it here

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jeremy-hellickson-strikeouts-cometh/

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions

I've always thought the ROY was about the season he had

Not future potential

by sterlingice on Nov 14, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions

oh...it is...

but i also dont think it should be the ‘who was the luckiest pitcher in baseball’ award either

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions

He had a very high IFFB rate.

Who knows if it was luck or a skill? Plus, the best defense in the AL. Chances are even if he’s not THAT far below the average babip, he’s not going to have a normal looking one.

Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!

by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Nov 15, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions

when it comes to these awards though, his 2.95 ERA still happened

not likely to happen again next season, but neither is his low strikeout rate considering how high his swinging strike rate was.

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions

i really thought we'd gotten beyond that being the primary way to judge a pitcher...

if everything else is equal…sure, go with ERA….but things were far from equal

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions

not yet it appears

although it was a good sign that ivan nova and his 16-4 record didnt win

by BeauJackson on Nov 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions

nova...another better choice than hellickson

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

Nova

over Hellickson is laughable.

by powder blues on Nov 14, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions

b/c of ERA?

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions

I guess

I just feel he is the better pitcher and has a better chance or repeating the success. Laughable is a bit over the top i suppose as we are all entitled to our opinions. Hellickson’s track record in the minors suggests this isn’t a one year thing.

by powder blues on Nov 14, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions

but track record in the minors and probable future success really shouldnt have much of an effect...

i think hellickson won because he was a known name due to his lofty prospect ranking and due to luck…nova produced almost twice as much WAR as hellickson did…and like i said up above…i wouldnt have either of them near the top of my list…

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by billybeingbilly on Nov 14, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions