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Thanksgiving cooking discussion thread

We've got some chefs (I'm looking at you, Beau Jackson) and some experienced home cooks on this site, so I thought we could trade tips on Thanksgiving cooking.  

Post your tips for turkey preparation (or your alternative entree if turkey doesn't do it for you), your menu or recipes below.  To get it started, I've posted recipe for fantastic mushroom soup after the jump.

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MUSHROOM SOUP

Serves 6   Adapted from The New Basics Cookbook

 

When my wife and I had our first winter holidays together, we discovered that both of our moms have made a tradition of making this soup as a first course.  It's a great rich soup. 

 

1/2 cup Madeira

2 3/4 cup chicken stock

1 oz dried morels (you can substitute dried shiitakes)

3 leeks - white part only, diced roughly

1 large onion, diced roughly

4 Tbs unsalted butter

3 Tbs unbleached all-purpose flour

2 1/4 cups beef stock

1 lb button mushrooms with stems removed

salt and black pepper

creme fraiche (you can substitute sour cream or greek yogurt)

snipped chives

 

Directions: 

1) In a small saucepan, combine madeira, 1/2 c of chicken stock and morels, bring to boil, remove from heat, let stand for 30 min

2) In a large pot (you can use a dutch oven or a soup pot), melt the butter over low heat in a skillet, add roughly diced leaks and onions, and cook over low heat until vegetables are wilted, but not browned about 10 minutes 

3) Sprinkle flour over leeks and onions, stir, and cook 5 minutes more

4) To the large pot, add remaining chicken stock, beef stock, button mushrooms, and morels and their soaking liquid

 and simmer, uncovered, until the mushrooms are soft, about 30 mins

5) Blend until mushroom bits are no bigger than pea sized, either by using an immersion blender or by allowing the soup to cool slightly and then processing in batches using a blender or food processor.

6) add salt and pepper to taste

7) serve with creme fraiche and chives

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What we're doing this weekend to get ready

Making chicken stock to have plenty on hand
Setting out bread to go stale
Making pie dough
Going shopping for non-perishable ingredients

This is a good article on stuff you can get done ahead of time:
http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/what-can-i-prepare-before-the-actual-day-of-thanksgiving/

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 4:05 AM EST reply actions  

Pear and Chanterelle Stuffing

This is adapted from a really good recipe from the New York Times a couple years ago:

November 11, 2009
CHANTERELLE AND PEAR STUFFING

1 large loaf Pullman or other firm white bread
1 pound chanterelle mushrooms
1/3 pound pancetta, diced small
10 tablespoons butter, more for greasing muffin tins
1 large chopped onion
1/4 cup minced shallots (about three)
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
1/3 cup white wine
3 1/2 cups diced pears (about four or five firm, ripe varieties like Bartlett or Anjou)
1 teaspoon sugar
1 1/2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh thyme, or 1 1/2 teaspoons dried thyme
1/4 cup minced chives
1/3 cup chopped Italian parsley
2 cups turkey stock.

1. Tear bread into small pieces (you should have about 16 cups) and set in roasting pan or bowl. To dry bread, cover with paper towels and leave out overnight. Or, place on a baking sheet in batches and lightly toast. Set aside.
2. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
3. Wipe mushrooms with a clean, damp towel. Trim tough ends. Slice some thickly, chop others. Set aside. Place pancetta in a large skillet over medium heat. Cook slowly until fat is rendered, about 7 minutes. Remove to a large plate.
4. Add 2 tablespoons butter to fat in pan and turn heat to medium high. Add onion and shallots, season with salt and pepper, and cook, stirring occasionally, until just soft. Do not brown. Remove to plate holding pancetta.
5. Add 3 tablespoons butter to pan. Add mushrooms, season with salt and pepper and quickly sauté until starting to brown. Remove and add to plate.
6. Add wine to pan and deglaze over medium high heat, cooking until wine reduces by about half. Pour remaining liquid over mushrooms. Wipe out pan and add remaining butter. Add pears and sugar and season with salt and pepper. Sauté pears, in batches if necessary, over medium high heat until they begin to brown slightly.
7. In a large bowl or roasting pan, add sautéed ingredients to bread. Toss lightly to combine. Add herbs and toss again. Slowly pour one cup stock over mixture and toss. Add more broth to make a very moist stuffing. Taste and adjust for salt and pepper.
8. Generously butter muffin tins and fill each with stuffing, pressing down so each cup is well filled. Top each with one tablespoon stock. Bake for about 20 to 30 minutes, until a golden crust forms on bottom. To serve, use a butter knife to remove each stuffing muffin and invert onto the plate.

Yield: recipe will fill two dozen muffin tins or a small casserole dish.

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 4:05 AM EST reply actions  

yeah, just come up with some Chanterelles. Fuck you, man. You must live in Seattle.

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by Crooow on Nov 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're procuring all of your ingredients through hunting and foraging, this might be a bad recipe for you

If you have grocery stores in your neighborhood, they ought to carry a variety of fresh mushrooms. If you can’t find chanterelles, try oyster mushrooms.

We belong to a CSA/farmshare, and they have foraged mushrooms for us most weeks, but I got mine for the stuffing at Whole Foods.

by KSinDC on Nov 20, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s all well and good, but…where did you find fresh chanterelles?

I used to live in Seattle (their baseball park is actually pretty awesome now, btw) and come late october/early november there would be a nice bright yellow/orange display of these fungi-forms meeting you after you walked through the market’s door. And they sold them for upwards of $14/lb.

Now, I live in a place where the jack-o-lantern (glow in the dark…..and will destroy your liver and kill you) mushrooms pop up around the same time and look oh-so-similar to these chanterelles…but they grow in huge groupings of many numbers…and they glow in the fucking dark. And they’re all the fuck over the place. Yeah, so, I almost killed my roommates and myself by insisting they were chanterelles. We planned a picking/cooking party. Then, the afternoon of, before we sauteed any of them, I did a last quick checkup on them via the internet. Cest la vie.

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by Crooow on Nov 21, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Turns out the reason I didn't remeber this being very expensive

Is that this is not the recipe I used two years ago. In fact, the old print out of this recipe I just found has “Not Worth It” scribbled along the bottom.

If I can find the recipe I used, I’ll post it here.

by KSinDC on Nov 23, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love a fantastic Ham recipe if anyone has one.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Gross, ham

I was born into the Purdue and Miami family, became a Jaguars fan after moving to Jacksonville and adopted the Royals as my baseball team.....All of my teams are kinda bad....

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 19, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Gross, turkey

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a hatred for ham

but turkey is my favorite….you crossed the line

I was born into the Purdue and Miami family, became a Jaguars fan after moving to Jacksonville and adopted the Royals as my baseball team.....All of my teams are kinda bad....

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 19, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicken > Turkey

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ham>Tebow

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 19, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And my hand leaves your thigh.

Sad.

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by Old Man Duggan on Nov 19, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats all it took, to get your hand off my thigh?

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems like there is only one way to cook ham...

and that is with cloves, cherries and pineapple… I like it, but I could easily eat ham year round.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

a new orleans thing is root beer glazed ham

you could make cassoulet with ham if you wanted to

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna suggest glazing with a sweet soda base.

Plenty of brown sugar never hurts either.

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 19, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Chambord glaze ain't bad

I want to start a cooking show where every item involves name brand alcohol. Lots of sponsors. This would be fantastic.

Guinness beer bread
Budweiser jambalaya
Chambord ham
Baileys fudge for desert
Evan Williams BBQ sauce
And on and on.

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by PhattStairs on Nov 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems like a great idea

But I’m not sure how you’d get more than a couple of episodes out of it.

by KSinDC on Nov 21, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

really?

this is easy…just throw whatever sponsor in whatever recipe…I could come up with 40 recipes in a snap…that would be maybe 10 shows…and the recipe would probably be better off for it, if not, it wouldn’t affect it much…alcohol can be added to anything…especially when the alcohol flavor cooks off anyhow and its basically little more than just adding a bit of flavor to something…

however…a half can to a can of Budweiser in a pot of boiling rice makes some fantastic rice for Jambalaya…since Bud is rice beer anyhow it makes since

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by PhattStairs on Nov 25, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I did this coke and bourbon ham once:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/recipe?id=6858739

It was good, but a pain to cook.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 19, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone ever brine a turkey?

I’ve brined chicken breasts before for the grill (highly recommend, btw, brine em for at least a couple hours in saltwater, and brown em over direct heat for 5-7 minutes, turning frequently, then slide them over to indirect heat, put a tinfoit tent over them, and let them “bake” for 20….no dryness!) But have never done it for Turkey. I’m going to get a big assed bucket from the bucket store, prob get my salt/water ratios off the internet, but curious if any of you mofos have done it, and if their are other tips, tricks, etc….

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Nov 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

We brined turkey for the first time two years ago, and I will never make unbrined turkey again

We use to eat turkey twice a year (Thanksgiving/Christmas), but since we started brining, we look for reasons to make it. I can not believe how big a difference it makes. Making your own brine works, but I haven’t succeeded in making anything as good as the apple sage brine mix that Whole Foods sells.

The one note is that if you do brine, you’ll want to make your gravy separately because the drippings from the turkey can be extremely salty.

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The other advantage of making gravy separately is that you can do it the day ahead

When you take the turkey out the day before, take the turkey neck and giblets and make turkey broth with them, then make a roux made from equal parts butter and flour and then add the turkey broth to make turkey stock.

I’ll post a recipe later on

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Make your own turkey stock

When you get the bird out the day before to brine it, remove the neck and the giblets and set them aside.

After you get the brine going, set the oven to 450 and get out an oven-safe sauce pan or dutch oven (I’ll refer to this as the “pot”) with a capacity of at least 2 1/2 quarts.

Put the turkey neck and giblets (I use all of them) in the pot. Add a carrot chopped into 8-10 pieces and at least half an onion chopped into a few pieces.

Put the pot in the oven and let the meats and vegetables roast for at least 5-10 minutes to generate some good flavors. — you can tell by the skin darkening.

After you remove the pot from the oven, add one stalk of celery chopped into 8-10 pieces, a bay leaf, a dozen or so peppercorns, maybe a sprig of thyme, and fill the pot with water. Bring the pot to a boil on the stove, and stir while scraping the bottom to loosen any bits that stuck there during the roasting.

At this point you can either continue boiling it on the stove, or you can put it in the oven (turn it down to 200 degrees) and leave it for a while. If it’s boiling on the stove, it will turn cloudy, but it will get more of the turkey flavor. If you put it in the oven, it doesn’t boil so it stays much more transparent. I usually opt for the oven so I can do other stuff. If you do the stovetop, make sure that the water doesn’t all boil away (this happened to me once with a whole turkey carcass after thanksgiving and the pot actually ended up catching on fire) and top off the pot with water as necessary.

Soon, the pot will smell wonderful, but I usually let it go for at least several hours.

Since there’s no salt in this broth (you’re making it without salt so you can use it to make gravy with the potentially very salty drippings from a brined turkey), to check flavor, you need to spoon some out and add a little salt to it before you taste. Otherwise it will taste flat even while it smells great.

Once it’s ready, strain the broth (I use a collander lined with a t-shirt no longer fit to wear) and use it for thanksgiving or freeze it for up to a year.

by KSinDC on Nov 20, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on Brining

If you aren’t doing it, your f’ing up. Quit f’ing up.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 19, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

does it make the turkey salty?

Ms. Buddyball is on a low sodium diet.

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by buddyball on Nov 21, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It is quite a bit of salt.

I am not sure how much goes in the bird. You may need to read up on it.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 21, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy Shit... Holy Shit... Holy Shit...

Brined my first turkey this year (entirely because of this thread)… And my God… Im ruined, Im not a huge turkey fan to begin with, but Jesus Christ if it didn’t come out AMAZING!!!

I soaked that shit for 2 days.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 24, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I brined a frozen turkey for the first time

I hadn’t brined one that was already injected with “solution” before, but the results were still great.

Kept it super simple:

2 qts. Simply Apple juice
3/4 c. sea salt
1/2 cup honey
1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup light brown sugar

Smoked at 300-325 over hickory and apple for 2 1/2 hours until 165F. Just had some leftovers on a wheat roll for breakfast. Tasty!

by Tito42 on Nov 28, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This was a breast only

You’d have to make up more brine for a whole turkey

by Tito42 on Nov 28, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I brined a whole turkey...

1 cup apple cider vinegar
1 cup kosher salt
2 cup sugar
1 tablespoon of thyme
2 sprig of rosemary
1 sprig of Sage

tons o’ water

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by averagegatsby on Nov 28, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeff is right. If you aren't brining, you're F'ing up

I also rubbed the turkey with a light coating of olive oil and some of Danny Edwards’ Wing Rub before throwing on the smoker.

by Tito42 on Nov 29, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I just cooked mine in an oven.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, even though I'm an advocate of brining and roasting, any tips on smoking or frying turkeys?

We’ve got a huge Christmas this year so we’ll have two turkeys. I thought we might try something different for the second one.

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Fried Turkey is the best...

But I would recommend frying one for practice… The first one we did was a fucking disaster, couldn’t get the temperature to stabilize, wound up being “blackend on the outside” and a little bloody on the inside because of it…

But if you chose to fry a turkey, I suggest getting as big a one as possible, because it displaces more oil, so it requires much less oil.

From the second time on all of my Fried Turkeys have been perfect, I also worked in a Fried Chicken restaurant for nearly 5 years so I have plenty of experience with deep frying…. But it really isn’t hard.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Also... You can fry an entire turkey in a fraction of the time it takes to cook one in the oven.

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by averagegatsby on Nov 19, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Frying is always much more efficient than roasting

Oil is a much better conductor of heat than air.

But I’m worried about the turkey drying out. What temperature are you frying at?

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer both methods of either smoking or frying to roasting.

I smoke the bird at 225 degrees for 5-6 hours for bone-in breast and 8-10 hours for whole bird. I almost always mix apple and hickory for my smoke and it’s great. The key is to put the rub both inside and outside the bird. Also if you can get some under the skin it comes out killer. I’ve also fried several and they come out perfect everytime. Gatsby’s right though, be very careful with the oil displacement. They even have new electric turkey fryers that will do up to a 14lb bird. They’re dickhead proof. There’s a fill line on the side of the thing that makes it immpossible to overfill if you just pay attention. The Masterbuilt one says you can fry a 14lb bird in 48 minutes. You set the temp, turn it on and it’s ready in 20 minutes. With rest time it’s less than an hour to carving. Try doing that in an oven…I’m buying one tomorrow. They’re around $110 at Wal-mart and as Royals fans, we love us some Wal Mart! I would highly recommend both injecting and rubbing a fried turkey as well. Never brined one for the fryer, but I’ve done it a couple of times for the smoker and it’s well worth the extra work.

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 19, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I typically shoot for 225 when I smoke, but for a turkey or chicken I like going higher heat to keep the skin crisp. The last two years I’ve smoked a bone-in turkey breast at 325-350 for 2-3 hours, and it turns out great.

by Tito42 on Nov 19, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I always smoke our turkey on Thanksgiving

I do it on our Weber charcoal grill. Bank the coals on either side. I add new coals every hour. I baste every half hour. I add soaked hickory chips every hour (I alternate new coals and new chips on the half-hour). Cook covered for the same time as you would in an oven. Works every time. I prefer hickory to mesquite.

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by buddyball on Nov 21, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never tried a turkey that way.

I cheat by using an electric Masterbuilt smoker purchased at Bass Pro. It’s awesome because it’s so easy. You just add chips every few hours and let it do it’s thing. I do cook all of my tri-tips on my weber the way you’re describing, but put the coals on just one side. How many coals do you start out with, and to you use that awesome hinged grate?

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 21, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Webers are great

I’ll be using my Weber Smokey Mountain for the smoked turkey breast. Going to smoke a couple fatties to boot.

by Tito42 on Nov 21, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

here's a butternut squash soup for 8

1 teaspoon olive oil
1/2 stick butter
2 cups chopped onions
1/2 cup chopped carrots
2.5 lbs of butternut squash (chopped into 1 inch pieces which you can buy frozen)
1/4 cup chopped celery
4 cups stock of your choosing
2 tablespoons of fresh sage
1/2 cup whipping cream

1. drizzle with olive oil and salt and pepper, roast the butternut squash at 300 until tender
2. saute onions, carrots, celery for 5 minutes.
3. add stock, 1/2 the sage
4. bring to boil, reduce heat
5. add squash
6. puree squash using a bermixer or a blender or food processor
7. return to heat, add in whipping cream
8. serve in bowls, sprinkle with remaining sage. can also add pomegranate or candied walnuts, etc.

Notes: make sure to add salt and pepper to mirepoix before adding the stock
             if you want, roasted garlic goes well with this recipe

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

there's also a butternut squash lasagna you could try if you want

butternut squash
lasagna noodles
parmesan and asiago
flour
milk
basil
nutmeg

1. drizzle olive oil and salt and pepper over squash, roast at 300-350 until tender/soft
2. make a roux with flour and butter, add milk, wait to thicken. add nutmeg. making a bechamel.
3. put bunch of basil into food processor, add some of the bechamel. blend.
4. add blended bechamel to rest of bechamel.
5. take roasted squash to processor, add amaretto cookies to squash and blend. season with salt and pepper. can add some nutmeg if you want, but not much.
6. ladle sauce onto bottom of pan. add layer of pre cooked lasagna. add some asiago and parmesan on top of squash. repeat the process and top with sauce mix and cheese.
7. bake covered at 375 for 40 minutes. bake uncovered for 15 or so minutes more if you want a browned top.

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This looks great

How much squash would you guess? Couple pounds?

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, 2 pounds is probably good. i forget the exact amount.

you can just buy the pre cubed frozen packages if you don’t want to deal with the squash. a good option to throw in is pine nuts if you want. toast them then either a) put them in the spice grinder and add over the bechamel on every layer….b) leave them whole and do the same or just put on the top layer. they go well with the nutty flavor of the asiago.

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This looks good. I'm going to give this to my wife

She’s the butternut squash soup maker in the family, and we haven’t really been satisfied with either the Cooks Illustrated or Joy of Cooking versions.

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

made this for t-giving.

really good. roasting the squash gives a nice toasted flavor. good stuff.

by billexgordler on Nov 27, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want to try some new side dishes

This column from the NYT’s Minimalist has a bunch of interesting ideas for dishes that you can make in advance:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/dining/18mini.html

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Great variation on mashed potatoes

You don’t need any gravy on these mashed potatoes. My main piece of advice is to err on the small size when cutting the big root vegetables (turnips, celery root, rootabaga) and let them soften in the butter before adding the potatoes.

MASHED POTATOES AND ROOT VEGETABLES WITH BACON AND THYME
Serves 4. Published November 1, 2007. From Cook’s Illustrated.
 
Russet potatoes will yield a slightly fluffier, less creamy mash, but they can be used in place of the Yukon Gold potatoes if desired. Rinsing the potatoes in several changes of water reduces starch and prevents the mashed potatoes from becoming gluey. It is important to cut the potatoes and root vegetables into even-sized pieces so they cook at the same rate. This recipe can be doubled and cooked in a large Dutch oven. If doubling, increase the cooking time in step 2 to 40 minutes. This variation is particularly nice with turnips.
 
4 ounces bacon , cut into 1/2-inch pieces
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
16 ounces total of carrots, rootabagas, parsnips, turnips, or celery root, (all peeled); carrots or parsnips cut into 1/4-inch-thick half-moons; turnips or celery root cut into 1/2-inch dice (about 1 1/2 cups)
1 1/2 pounds Yukon Gold potatoes , peeled, quartered lengthwise, and cut crosswise into 1/4-inch-thick slices; rinsed well in 3 or 4 changes of cold water and drained well
1/3 cup low-sodium chicken broth
Table salt
3/4 cup half-and-half , warmed
1 teaspoon minced fresh thyme leaves
Ground black pepper
 
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Cook 4 slices (about 4 ounces) bacon, cut into 1/2-inch pieces, in large saucepan over medium heat until browned and crisp, about 8 minutes. Using slotted spoon, transfer bacon to paper towel-lined plate; set aside. Remove all but 2 tablespoons bacon fat from pan.
2. Add butter to pan and keep over medium heat. When foaming subsides, add root vegetables and cook, stirring occasionally, until butter is browned and vegetables are dark brown and caramelized, 10 to 12 minutes. (If after 4 minutes vegetables have not started to brown, increase heat to medium-high.)
3. Add potatoes, broth, and 3/4 teaspoon salt and stir to combine. Cook, covered, over low heat (broth should simmer gently; do not boil), stirring occasionally, until potatoes fall apart easily when poked with fork and all liquid has been absorbed, 25 to 30 minutes. (If liquid does not gently simmer after a few minutes, increase heat to medium-low.) Remove pan from heat; remove lid and allow steam to escape for 2 minutes.
4. Gently mash potatoes and root vegetables in saucepan with potato masher (do not mash vigorously). Gently fold in warm half-and-half, reserved bacon, and thyme. Season with salt and pepper to taste; serve immediately.

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

this looks damn good

maybe as a companion to the Youtube music comp’s, we should crank out a RR cookbook. BTW, America’s Test Kitchen rocks.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Nov 19, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a fantastic idea.

Make a tailgate friendly section for going to the stadium too.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 19, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

best paid subscription on the web...

love the videos, and their chocolate chip cookies recipe is insanely good. most everything there is pretty good.

by billexgordler on Nov 19, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

andouille and fennel cornbread stuffing

1 Jiffy package cornbread, cut into 1 inch cubes
12 ounces andouille, halved lengthwise, then cut across into 1/2’’ pieces
1 fennel bulb, cut into 1/2’’ cubes
1 red bell pepper, cut into 1/2’’ pieces
2 tablespoons fresh thyme
2 cups broth or stock
1-2 eggs

1. make cornbread, make it a little overdone.
2. in some butter, saute sausage until you get a nice brown or crisp to the pieces. set aside.
3. melt butter, add onion, fennel, red bell to the pan. sprinkle with salt and pepper. cook until onions are a little golden, about 10-12 minutes on high heat.
4. mix vegetables with cooked sausage. add thyme and mix. add cornbread pieces and mix gently as to not crumble the bread. add salt and pepper to mix and stir lightly.
5. mix egg and broth/stock together.
6. pour egg mix into cornbread mix, blend together until no area is dry.
7. transfer to a baking dish, this would make about a 13 × 9 size.
8. bake at 350 for about an hour, or until crisp on top.

Notes: you can use other sausage like linguica, hot italian links, or mild if you prefer.
             you could change the dish by going with a sweet sausage and then adding dried fruit instead of fennel/bell pepper if you want

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

I don't host for Thanksgiving any more

I just let other screw it up.

My favorite turkey leftover is enchiladas:

I just follow a recipe like this one, but don’t roll them:

http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/green-chile-turkey-enchiladas/acc1bf02-11ec-4c70-96c7-f847800e9900

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 19, 2011 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

here's a tip, don't baste the bird!

all it does is lengthen the cooking time and cook the bird at different temperatures throughout the process. and if you’ve got a big 14-15 pound bird, the baste really isn’t going to do much.

a better option is to make a compound butter, which can be done days ahead of time. mix butter with sage, thyme, rosemary, parsley (cilantro if you want a peppery punch, roasted garlic is an option too). if you want to go full force with it, place butter mix on parchment paper and form into a log. roll the paper around the log, put in bag, and store in fridge.

before roasting, get under the turkey skin and slather the meat with the compound butter. now that will get you some flavor and not mess with cooking time.

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

This is brilliant

I will definitely be making a compound butter log this weekend

by KSinDC on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

a good side dish if you're in the mood

sweet potato gnocchi is a great option. goes well with sage or vanilla maple brown butter.

by BeauJackson on Nov 19, 2011 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

I did two turkeys last year

I live in an NYC apt, and my kitchen is miniscule, but i wanted to try a turkey in pieces rather than whole because brining is really good, but it’s kind of a nightmare in my apartment. Anyway, the brined whole turkey was better than the unbrined turkey in pieces. We’ll do cornbread dressing, a walnut and raisin stuffing (new recipe), brussels sprouts (simply, butter and salt is all), mashies (i worked at a family-style restaurant in high school and my job was to prepare mashed potatoes for a couple hundred every night—i got it down pat), butternut squash soup (i may try the recipe above); my wife’s in charge of the pies. Love this holiday.

by billexgordler on Nov 19, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

You're in NYC?

Which neighborhood?

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Nov 20, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

70th and york

my wife works at the hospital here and we live in resident housing.

by billexgordler on Nov 23, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

RE: Brining a turkey

We get a free frozen turkey from my old lady’s job. Is it really not OK to brine a turkey that was frozen, or will thawing it before brining suffice?

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by Old Man Duggan on Nov 20, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve not brined a frozen turkey, since they are usually injected with a saline-like solution anyhow. But, from everything I’ve read, it’s not going to “hurt” to do so. It just won’t absorb as much of the brine as a fresh turkey, and the benefit of brining a frozen is obviously less than that of brining a fresh.

by Tito42 on Nov 20, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I've brined a frozen turkey

I don’t think there’s anything inherent in the freezing process that makes brining work less well. You can even combine two steps into one and thaw it in the brine.

Even if it’s got saline added, I think a fresh brine would help, especially if it’s a flavored brine.

by KSinDC on Nov 20, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

if you brine...

be careful when making the gravy. Taste it while making it. I’ve had some inedibly salty gravy from a brined bird. Probably a mistake on the “chef’s” part but….I’ve never tried to make gravy from a brined turkey.

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 20, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

bake this for dessert and thank me graciously later:

Apple Dew Dumplings

2 large or 4 small Granny Smith apples
(peel and cut into 8 slices)
¾ cup butter (do not substitute)
1 ½ cup sugar
1 tsp. vanilla
1 tsp. cinnamon
2 cans crescent rolls
(Pillsbury make it taste the best, but cheaper can be substituted)
1 ¼ cup MOUNTAIN DEW

Directions: Melt butter and mix with sugar, vanilla, and cinnamon
Roll each apple slice in a crescent roll
Place in lightly greased 9×13 pan
Scoop sugar mixture on top of each and pour in Mt. Dew
(pour minimum amount on top and most all on sides for crispness)
Bake @350 degrees for 45 minutes

Notes: peaches can be substituted for the apples with magnificent results
Ice cream is also recommended with this dish

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Nov 20, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Idea I've been wanting to try for a long time now:

Stuffing a turkey with White Castle burgers (no cheese).

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 20, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

That sounds disgusting

It doesn’t even make sense to me.

by KSinDC on Nov 20, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

or making Russian nesting dolls out of food...

cheese filled chicken wrapped in bacon wrapped in a prime rib inside a game hen inside a duck inside a turkey inside a whole hog…oh yes, this must happen

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by PhattStairs on Nov 20, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK YOU GUYS

For one, you chop up the white castle burgers into smallish pieces….so………it at least LOOKS like stuffing.

I’m guessing the onions/beefiness/griddle grease would add a modicum of flavor to a nice bird.

Still…..you have a point.

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 20, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

no fuck you...

I think that sounds fantastic…big fan of White Castle, but can only do it once a year

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Nov 20, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

you're not crazy

a white castle has the main components of stuffing. the bun is the bread, the burger meat replaces sausage, the onions are the onions. just add carrot, celery and some sage/thyme and you’re set.

by BeauJackson on Nov 20, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

To each his own

The idea of a beef flavor infusion into my turkey doesn’t sound very appealing to me, but I am at least modestly curious to hear how this would turn out.

I haven’t had a White Castle burger in 15 years. Are the stores still around?

by KSinDC on Nov 20, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well I ran the idea past my mom and aunt……needless to say they laughed in my face.

However…….they at least entertained the idea by saying I should do a large chicken in that regard. I may just do a large chicken.

In that regard.

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 21, 2011 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

As long as you do the chicken

in that regard

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Nov 21, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

white castle joints

not still around in kc

the last one was off of Mission, circa 91st (?)

They are so good. So, so good. So good.

According to me, and a million other people.

Anyway, you can get them in frozen boxes of 6. And they are very close to the same thing. Much more expensive (probably 1.38 times as much as you’d spend at a store, per burger), but I personally think they’re worth it.

Oh yes.

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 21, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

and by “Mission” I mean “Metcalf”

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 21, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll vouch...store bought are very similar...

closest actual store is in Columbia now I think

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Nov 21, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

So I'm not much of a cook at all, so can one of you explain all the "soda pop" cooking?

Like, is it just a different way to get sugar into the dish?

And since apparently this is a thing, what are some good Dr. Pepper related recipes?

by Gross(est) on Nov 21, 2011 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

this is redneck cooking.

disregard.

I’m sure it can be tasty, but…….c’mon. Look up a recipe online. Rule 1 of memorable cooking: You don’t make gravy with a can of anything.

"On the last day of your life, don't forget to die."

- David Berman

by Crooow on Nov 21, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

its pop-culturization...

its easy to associate with something you know…“hey cousin JImmy, I put Mountain Dew in this for you!”

and yes its an easy way to slam even more sugar and artificial flavoring in everything

I can tell you about the dumplings…they taste nothing at all like Mountain Dew when they are done, if anything you can cut that down to a few splashes….I don’t know if it helps anything with the dish, but I throw it in every time

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Nov 21, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

All of my "memorable" cooking involves the smoke detector going off.

So making something edible that starts with a can of something would be an improvement.

by Gross(est) on Nov 21, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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