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In the rearview mirror are the pitching woes

Pitching woes, starting pitching woes. The black eye of our season last year right? Well we all know that our starters had some issues finding the strike zone, but for the most part, our bullpen was a thing of beauty. Everyone to a man was calling for McClure to hit the road, and now we have Eiland to grab the helm, and steer these pitchers.

2012 will be a huge leap forward in our quest to right this ship, and steer it back to our once proud port of baseball greatness. It will happen…I have absolutely no doubt. Just how will all this play out? Who will be our front 5? Who will be our middle relief? Who will close? Well, I’m just a fan like you, but we can always guess and put in our 2 cents right?

Here is how I would like to see things, provided there are no more moves. 1) Luke Hochevar– People are saying that we need a real ace. That’s fine, but I say Luke is the Ace…an overall #1 pick who has taken a bit longer to bloom than hoped. But in full bloom he is! If you didn’t notice the huge improvement in him the last half of the season, you might be reading this post in Braille. Luke has finally figured it out and feel free to call me an idiot for this, but Luke is the next Justin Verlander. Just watch & see. 2) Bruce Chen - Our pitcher of the year…crafty veteran who posted a 3.77 ERA and is happy to stay in Royal blue. We are happy to have this lefty here as our #2 guy. 3) Greg Holland– If you haven’t noticed by now, I am putting our starters Right-Left-Right-Left. Greg was really our best pitcher of the year IMO. He is pure nasty. Put this guy in the starting rotation and watch out team ERA plummet. 4) Jonathan Sanchez– This slot goes to Sanchez, provided he can get back to his old form. I hope the change to KC under Eiland will be the spark he needs. 5) Drum roll please…………Aaron Crow, no wait, Louis Coleman, no wait, Felipe Paulino, no wait, Luis Mendoza, oh maybe another lefty…Everett Teaford. Ok…great problem to have huh?

These are all solid pitchers fighting for the #5 spot in the rotation. Personally I like Aaron Crow in that spot,and for the sake of argument, let’s say that is our opening day rotation. Then we have this as a middle relief. * Felipe Paulino - R * Louis Coleman - R * Everett Teaford– L *Jonathan Broxton– R * Danny Duffy – L * Kelvin Herrera– R * Luis Mendoza– R Maybe another lefty in the pen instead? Who? Laffey…Verdugo…Collins? Closer is the no brainer of the year, Joakim Soria (again, provided he returns to previous form) Fellow Royals fans, maybe I’m too much of a cockeyed optimist, (like Billy Mumphries) but I think our pitching woes are in the rearview mirror. Along with the solid lineup that is scary from top to bottom, this should be one exiting season to be at the K!

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Our lineup is scary top to bottom

Giavotella/Getz/Escobar

Jersey just got colder

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 30, 2011 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

This is good to hear

Paragraph breaks or no paragraph breaks, I feel much better now.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Nov 30, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

Tried to edit

This is my first post on here, and one of my biggest peeves is the lack of line breaks and paragraphs…with that said I tried at least 6 times to edit all that out, but it kept reverting to that format even though it looked great when I published it and after 6 edits…sorry I tried. Any helpful advise is welcome

by 1Yankh8tr on Nov 30, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

My advise

1) Tap once on the “Enter” key
2) If Step 1 does not work, buy new keyboard.

Sorry for the snark but it really is un-readable. I believe you can still make edits to it, so please try.

by Loose Seal on Nov 30, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

no snark at all.

I really couldn’t it beyond pitching woes.

Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.

by ChrisCEIT on Nov 30, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, when I finished the first line

and caught in my peripheral vision that there were about 30 more uninterrupted lines of it, I stopped.

by Loose Seal on Nov 30, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks,

now can you make it more pessimistic…its optimism is blinding me.

by Loose Seal on Nov 30, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't read it.

Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.

by ChrisCEIT on Nov 30, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait for another "exiting season to be at the K!"

I predict we won’t be exiting the penant race until at least May.

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KC_Satchmo on Nov 30, 2011 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

I say we are only 10 games back the Tigers

in July

Jon Broxton and Jeff Francoeur walk into a bar

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 30, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I say that on August 1st

Luke “I’m not the next Verlander, Verlander is the first me” Hochevar will win all 8 games of a pair of quadruple headers and we’ll pull to within 2 of the lead.

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KC_Satchmo on Nov 30, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The Twins are back baby

Jon Broxton and Jeff Francoeur walk into a bar

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 30, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They never went away

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 30, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

18-11 now

18-11 forever

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Nov 30, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If only 'twas his intention

Jon Broxton and Jeff Francoeur walk into a bar

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 30, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

"...feel free to call me an idiot on this but Luke is the next Justin Verlander"

IDIOT. Can’t believe no one else has taken you up on this. One of the many great things about this website- people usually pass on the obvious.

by Rufus R. Jones on Nov 30, 2011 8:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I've posted this on another thread...

but Luke Hochevar is a three-years older version of Chris Volstad, and I don’t believe anyone in Miami is penciling him in as a #5, much less a #1.

Hochevar: 585 IP 623 H 68 HR 196 BB 387 K GB% 49.1 FIP 4.52 xFIP 4.19
C Volstad: 584 IP 619 H 72 HR 204 BB 378 K GB% 50.4 FIP 4.41 xFIP 4.27

And why on Earth would you take Paulino out of the rotation where he’s been pretty decent and replace him with Crow, who may not have a third pitch, has had success in the pen, and not so much when put into a rotation?

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Dec 1, 2011 4:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that the Royals have a shot next year.

Their team has constantly been improving over the past couple of years, and now they are ambitiously going after it. I think Broxton will have a nice comeback and be one of the better relievers in the AL. I like the bullpen.

by dasox313 on Nov 30, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

Sometimes Pitching Fixes

Itself. A young rotation with a veteran or two can sometimes turn into a credible MLB staff.
http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/9/6/2409261/can-the-2012-royals-be-the-1967-red-sox

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Holland for the rotation

Boo

Jon Broxton and Jeff Francoeur walk into a bar

by tiquanunderwear on Nov 30, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Hochevar the next Verlander?

Dude, whatever you’ve been taking is illegal and bad for you. Get some help!

You know what I saw at the end of 2011 for Luke? The end of the 2008 season for Davies, (except Davies was younger and had more potential) and until Luke shows me something this season, that is what I will continue to see. Would you have Kyle be our ace in 2012? Yeah, me neither.

Era as Royal’s starter- Luke 5.34 in 96 starts, Kyle 5.34 in 99 starts.
ERA+ as Royal’s starter- Luke 80, Kyle 81
Won/loss (not that they matter but they are similar so it’s fun) Luke 30-43, Kyle 29-44.
They are also the same age. The biggest difference is that one was a first round draft pick and thus has been given a pass for his performance, and the other is (currently) out of baseball based on his performance.

At the same point in Verlander’s career, he had 165 starts and over 1000 innings, 83 wins and nearly 100 strikeouts in 5 full major league seasons, ALL much better than any Luke has had, going over 200 innings and getting Cy Young votes in 4 of them. A career ERA+ of 118. (Luke’s best season is 87- which is 5th starter level) All leading up to this year when he won the Cy. I cannot think of two more dissimilar pitchers than Hochevar and Verlander.

I guess they are more similar than me and Randy Johnson.

"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance

by KHAZAD on Dec 1, 2011 4:48 AM EST reply actions  

that should be

1000 K’s

"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance

by KHAZAD on Dec 1, 2011 4:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Not that our blatant pessimism can't afford to be broken up,

but I completely agree with you. Were mere days away from Jim Fetterolf writing a Fanpost again.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 1, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The Most damning statement of the whole thing?

“Bruce Chen – Our pitcher of the year…crafty veteran who posted a 3.77 ERA and is happy to stay in Royal blue.”

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 1, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Drum roll please...

SIDNEY PONSON! You win! In fact WE ALL WIN!

by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Dec 1, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

See, look

This is what happens when you drink a 30-pack of Busch Light before you post.

"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."

by Juancho on Dec 1, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

unintentionally true:
Greg Holland….Put this guy in the starting rotation and watch out

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Dec 1, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yodaesque

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 1, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

if and when there's a RoyalsReview book

“In the rearview mirror are the pitching woes” should be the title. It’s perfect. It contains all the blind optimism and long-lived suffering of all of us AND it begs for snark. It’s set-up and punchline.

Also more boating metaphors, please.

by billexgordler on Dec 1, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Rearview Mirror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfqzQKt9UeA

i…made a trade today
Sanchez was emancipated
i guess it was the losing made me wise
but i’m not about to use stats
or apologize

we couldn’t pitch, holdin’ scores down
Jeff Francis sucked, Kyle made me frown
Fans got enraged, united by jeers
forced to endure what i could not…
produce

They were, were in my…
rearview mirror…

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 1, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I politely disagree

but love the optimism. Dont let the snark beat ya down, write what you want to write. I appreciate a blindly optimistic post every now and then even if i don’t agree with it.

by LimaTime10 on Dec 2, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

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