The Royals Should Not Cancel the 2012 Fanfest
There is talk that the Royals will not have a winter Fanfest this year, effectively cancelling the new January tradition in favor of a Fanfest during All-Star Game week. I hope this is not the case. It would be a colossal mistake if this rumor turns out to be true.
To treat the winter Fanfest as somehow redundant to a July event is either baffling or supremely depressing or both. A winter gathering is a great opportunity for fans to get a dose of baseball during the long off-season, begin to look forward to the next season, and, in some cases, interact a little bit with Royals players. It's a Royals thing: photos with Slugger, a chance to get Jeff Francoeur's autograph, listening to Dayton Moore talk about The Process, buying Royals gear for the new season, etc.
All-Star week is going to be fun, I'm sure. And the Royals will surely take their time in the spotlight, trot out the legends, celebrate the team's young talents, etc. But the Fanfest event(s) at the All-Star game aren't really about a single team. They're MLB-wide events, and many of the people attending will be out of town fans. Oh look, my kid can get his picture taken with the Phanatic! Cool, Bud Selig will be telling Spanish-American War stories later today. Oh me, Joe Torre will be lighting $100 dollar bills on fire and telling A-Rod jokes at the same time, where do I go?!?
Moreover, in addition to having an entirely different character, the All-Star game is in July. July. The winter Fanfest is a nice event because it reminds fans that, hey, the Royals exist, in a time when they really aren't focused on baseball. There's already going to be some kind of event that week. There's been fan-y type events since, by my memory, the early 1990s. Trust me, baseball fans in KC are going to be aware of the Royals in July. I hope the Royals do a Royals-centric event, or ten, during All-Star week, Go for it. This has no relevance to January.
The Royals have really done a great job in the last few years in engaging the fans and the January Fanfest has been a big part of that. These events have been well-attended and enjoyed by many. The Royals should continue to reach out to their hardcore fans, who deserve hugs and goodie bags for all they've put up with. So far, this is just a rumor. I hope it is proven wrong shortly.
I really hope the Royals don't make a short-sighted mistake this winter.
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Good article
but I notice you didn’t cuss at all – not even fake cussing. I’m sure this was just an oversight.
Love the spanish-American war reference.
Now I want a reporter to ask selig what was more dangerous, charging San Juan hill or selling used cars in Milwaukee
"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.
Take San Juan Hill
- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …
by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 7, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
We've got to pay for the Frenchy extension somehow
You can’t have Fanfest AND Jeff Francoeur … Don’t be greedy, Will.
Sell the corporate naming rights for FanFest
Hy-Vee Royals FanFest 2012! And hold it at a Hy-Vee.
by Gopherballs on Nov 7, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Make sure Clam Simmons is there.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 7, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
seems like it was back in 2008
Making watching baseball as fun as doing your taxes.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I talked to one of the Royals officials at the Ryan Lefebvre gloves for kids signing and he told me no fanfest. He was then stunned to hear that I thought it was a terrible decision since the All-Star FanFest is a clusterfuck aimed at fans of every team (and an overall nightmare, you think somewhat long lines at Royals Fan Fest are bad, just wait until All-Star fanfest). I told him that for the first time in forever, the locals were really getting behind these young Royals and not having a January fanfest would stop a little of the momentum, not to mention that it’s a great season ticket selling event. He said they planned on expanding the caravan a little since there would be no fanfest. He did say that it wasn’t a final decision so maybe there’s still a chance to change their minds.
The fanfest is a promotion that can't be very expensive
Promoting your product is good. It pays to advertise. We need to get more fan butts into seats, right? Hell, I’d have players appearing at local malls to sign autographs. The minimum-wage guys would do it for a couple grand apiece.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
They do that during the season.
Butler and Gordon both did appearances, as well as others.
Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.
And to think...
I was at one point going to a little pissy if it wasn’t in JoCo this year.
Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.
well put will
very short-sighted if true…
Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
--Albert Einstein
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 7, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions
If they have it, it should really be on the Missouri side
Sincerely,
Illogical Star Reporters who insist the Big 12 Tournament can’t be in a state where the Big 12 doesn’t have a team – even though Lawrence Kansas is THREE TIMES closer to Kansas City Missouri than Columbia Missouri is
If strikeouts are indeed fascist - then find me some starters that believe in fascism
In my fit of being a crazy person last night I emailed Sam Mellinger about it.
He emailed me back and said he hadn’t heard anything but was going to look it. Thank you 4th estate!
by Gross(est) on Nov 7, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I asked someone about it a while back
I really, REALLY don’t feel like getting into this, but:
-the team loses money on the event
-it takes a lot more coordination to put together than people seem to realize
-they do not believe it’s worth doing if they can’t put ALL their staff resources toward it (and they can’t, because hosting the ASG is a huge time sink)
WTF, self?
sounds reasonable to me
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Nov 8, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I can shenanigans on the first two reasons. I am willing to almost maybe kind of buy the 3rd, but I still think it's a cop out.
At this point in it’s (FanFest as it’s own event) and in the team’s development, I think it’s reasonable to expect to lose money on it. At this point they shouldn’t look at it as a revenue generator but as a marketing and brand building expense. Having said that, I obviously don’t know the figures involved so may just be totally talking out my ass here.
I think part of their problem with it being slow to turn from a loyalty-building expense into a revenue generator on it’s own can at least partly be traced to their 1 (maybe 2) dimensionally planning of it. I think you and I were discussing last year how attendance seemed to be down. Without any market research at my fingertips, I would put forth the theory that it is related to the weak programming the do. If you’ve got kids under the age of 10 or if you like spending two days waiting in autograph lines, this event is designed for you. If not, you’re kind of left out (unless you’re somewhat sadomasochistic like me and keep going back year after year and throwing tantrums when you find out you can’t). Also, they haven’t changed the format really at all since the first year. Maybe tweaked a few things here and there, but basically it’s the same event, so there is even less incentive to go unless you have a kid to run around. I think (and have offered suggestions in my fan survey each year) that there are low cost activities that could easily be added to broaden the appeal of the event. And naturally once you broaden the appeal and deliver a better product, you get a better attendance which means more money at the gate, but also more money from sponsorship deals/tables.
I call shenanigans on reason 2 simply because I used to do event planning so I think I am somewhat familiar with the logistics involved. But again, I never planned an event exactly like this, so I’m willing to concede that I may be wrong there. I will add, though, that I don’t think I am. I think I’ve got a pretty good idea of what goes into it. What I don’t have is a good idea of what kind of resources the Royals are willing to commit to this – do they have an event planner who does the majority of the planning, drawing in the appropriate people from other departments as time draws near or do they delegate it hodge podge out to marketing/travel people as additional duties on top of what they already have so you have people who aren’t experts in it and whose priorities are divided trying to pull it together? Obviously you can tell by my snippy question there what I think is the better way to do it.
And finally, I might be willing to buy reason 3 if it weren’t freaking 8 days into November with no word from them at all on what’s going on with it. They should have committed one way or another earlier in the year and then executed their plan with authority. Instead, they’re not announcing it, they’re not explaining it. They’re letting people find out about it through rumors, willing to think the worst because the Royals have screwed up so many things like this in the past, so that no matter what decision they’ve come to, people are going to be pissed just because of The Process of how we found out. The only reason I freaking looked into this was because to attend I need to work it out with my work schedule and so went digging.
They just suck so bad at communication with their fans! I don’t get why they are so bad at it. I mean, I get why they’re so bad at it, but I don’t get why they are STILL so bad at it. Why don’t they get that this a problem worth addressing and a skill worth improving? Don’t they get how it would help the entire franchise? I thought they had made such good strides this year with all the blog events, but obviously they’ve still got a lot of the same dumb-shit problems in this area that they have had for at least a freaking decade.




















