Belated Friday Open Thread: Northwestern Is Not Good Enough For Me Edition
The Winter Meetings have passed us by. How will Albert Pujols survive without toasted ravioli? Will he have them shipped to him daily? Hourly? Seriously, what will he do without toasted ravioli? With his bank account, I'm sure he could hire a personal chef that specializes in toasted ravioli, but that just isn't the same. I'm of the mind that his numbers will suffer when his body is no longer stuffed with Charlie Gitto's fried pasta pillows stuffed with meat. I could be wrong on this, but only time will tell.
1. If money was no object, what car would you purchase? Doesn't have to be a new car. I'm expecting a lot of Prius answers, but I'm open to ideas.
2. If MLB were to reset the rosters, and the Royals ended up with the #1 pick in a snake draft, who would you target for the #1, #60 and #61 pick? All contracts would be voided, and the Royals would control players for six seasons.
3. The ghost of Plato offers you one of two pills. If you take the blue pill, from now on your government will precisely represent the will of its people. If you take the red pill, your country will be seized by an intelligent dictator whose political views are identical to yours. Which will it be?
4. If you were forced to spend an evening watching a double feature of romantic comedies, what two movies would you actually enjoy?
5. Menshealth.com recently announced the poll results for a "Hottest Women of All Time" survey. The top five were Jennifer Aniston, Raquel Welch, Marilyn Monroe, Britney Spears, and Madonna. How people failed to arrive in mass to vote for Elizabeth Cady Stanton is beyond me, but the results are the results. Thoughts on the Top 5? Who was overlooked?
6. Two men play checkers. They play five games and each man wins five games. There were no ties. How is this possible?
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PHURST!
1. Audi R8
2. Tulowitzki, and the two best young starting Pitchers… I have no idea who would be there, Beachy and Hellickson maybe?
3. Red Pill – Majority of people don’t know whats good for them, not that I know any better, but having spent too much time in SE Kansas I don’t want majority to rule.
4. II didn’t hate Definitely Maybe… Does Brides Maids count?
5. Charlize Theron or Kate Beckinsale… Madonna wouldn’t make my top 50
6. They aren’t playing each other?
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I have another riddle
What is special about the following sequence of numbers?
8 5 4 9 1 7 6 10 3 2 0
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I fibonaccied your mom last night.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
“And this particular post, children, is from the year Two Thousand and Eleven. At the time this particular entry garnered more than ninety ’rec’s’. A rarity, indeed.”
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by Crooow on Dec 10, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Alphabetical order
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
I didn't see your answers for my Definitely, Maybe post.
Weird.
I almost put Beckinsale on my list. Charlize is no slouch either.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely Maybe is just solid...
Solid acting, solid story, solid actors.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Agree.
I actually like Ryan Reynolds. The three love interests are all great. I do actually like the story.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
two guys
a girl
.
…
and a pizza place.
"You're like that guy who wrote that thing about remembering stuff!!"
- Crow T. Robot
I used to like that show all right.
It wasn’t even remotely groundbreaking. Reynolds was awesome, and I know this isn’t a popular opinion, but I kinda think he’s awesome. I really hope that Deadpool movie happens.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what?
Liking Ryan Reynolds isn’t a popular opinion? I know like 4 dudes that have him on their sexception list.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
seems like an odd list
mine would only have one man, joe randa.
by BeauJackson on Dec 10, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sexception list?
As Andrew Dice Clay used to say, “There’s no such thing as bisexual. Either you suck cock, or you do not suck cock.”
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
by Juancho on Dec 11, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ryan reynolds is awesome
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 11, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
1. I already own a Prius, so does that mean I’m rich?
We already have the two cars we want, but if I had to buy something totally frivolous and a waste of money, probably a Porsche Boxster. My wife likes Mini Coopers too, so maybe one for her.
2. Tim Lincecum. Don’t really know who’d be available at #60 and #61. Maybe Willie Bloomquist and Ryan Freel.
3. Red. “When will people learn, democracy just doesn’t work!” – Homer Simpson
4. Probably any Audrey Hepburn movie (longtime crush). But if you mean a more modern rom-com I enjoyed “Love, Actually” and “Bridget Jones Diary.” Does “High Fidelity” count? Or “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”?
5. Aniston is very bland IMO. Always though Welch and Spears were overrated. No average men think Madonna is sexy. Agree on Stanton. Margaret Thatcher was overlooked too. What, you don’t think power is sexy?
6. Clubhouse confusion.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 11, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
1. Can’t get my permit until February but I would get a Ford Expedition
2. Kershaw 1st and I think Gordo would be available at 60 and I’d take Cahill at 61
3. Red
4. I have a crush on Reese Witherspoon, so any of her movies
5. No Madonna or Spears, add Brooklyn Decker
6. They weren’t playing each other
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 10, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions
Expedition?
WTF? I don’t think I’ve known anybody who wanted an oversize SUV in at least five years. Is this a Florida thing, a high school thing, or what? I’m actually surprised to hear that they even still make Expeditions.
i'd get an oversized suv without question if money is no option
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 14, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
Where do you live?
And do you have to drive much?
suburbs....and no, not all that much
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by billybeingbilly on Dec 14, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Answers by OMD
1. If money was no object, what car would you purchase? Doesn’t have to be a new car. I’m expecting a lot of Prius answers, but I’m open to ideas.
I drive an ‘85 Grand Wagoneer, but it’s got rust along the base. I actually really love this automobile and would just have a nicer one. Well either that or a ~1970 Chevelle SS.
2. If MLB were to reset the rosters, and the Royals ended up with the #1 pick in a snake draft, who would you target for the #1, #60 and #61 pick? All contracts would be voided, and the Royals would control players for six seasons. #1. Justin Upton #60. concur with the Gordo pick #61. Greinke (I wouldn’t be surprised if he were still there then)
3. The ghost of Plato offers you one of two pills. If you take the blue pill, from now on your government will precisely represent the will of its people. If you take the red pill, your country will be seized by an intelligent dictator whose political views are identical to yours. Which will it be?
Dictator.
4. If you were forced to spend an evening watching a double feature of romantic comedies, what two movies would you actually enjoy?
I could stand to watch Crazy, Stupid, Love again despite the awful title. If Love and Other Drugs counts, I’d go with that because of the massive amounts of Anne Hathaway nudity. I’d second High Fidelity or Eternal Sunshine or Say Anything… and would prefer them over either of the two aforementioned movies. I doubt any of those really would count, so I guess I’d opt for Definitely, Maybe. Not to pick on Retro, but I really hated Love, Actually.
5. Menshealth.com recently announced the poll results for a “Hottest Women of All Time” survey. The top five were Jennifer Aniston, Raquel Welch, Marilyn Monroe, Britney Spears, and Madonna. How people failed to arrive in mass to vote for Elizabeth Cady Stanton is beyond me, but the results are the results. Thoughts on the Top 5? Who was overlooked?
No on all of them. Raquel Welch is the most defensible. Top 5 ever: Grace Kelly, Monica Bellucci, Elizabeth Taylor ca. 1955 or so, Kelly LeBroc ca. 1985, and Jennifer Connelly ca. 2002
6. Two men play checkers. They play five games and each man wins five games. There were no ties. How is this possible?
They’re not playing each other.
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Answers by OMD
Who are you Tim Lacy?
-TU
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 10, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
How will anyone know who submitted them if I didn't identify myself?
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
oh crud...
I forgot aboot the Cusack.
Did I ever tell you guys that I’ve hung out with him 3 times in San Francisco via a mutual friend?
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by Crooow on Dec 10, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome.
Was he cool?
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
one of the times
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Was really fun the first time, was just him and my friend and me. We ate sushi and drank lots (lots) of sake, then moved onto Sapporos, and then…well we went to a martini bar that only sold those HUGE martini glasses, and he was actually funny and not pretentious at all and I don’t remember much other than it was hilarious and I felt like I was in an 80s movie.
The other time I remember well…he was pretentious and had other people with him…almost only one of them seemed like a genuine friend…made me think I was up against other tag-alongs. Kind of ruined the thrill. Felt like I was in the movie representing his 2016 return-to-form as directed by Quinton Tarantino.
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Re: Grace Kelly
Somehow I had never seen High Noon before tonight, when I noticed it’s available on-line on Netflix. So I just finished that ten minutes ago. Color me unimpressed. Am I missing something?
With her or the movie?
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
With the movie.
Spoiler Alert
(not that it’s likely necessary for a 60-year old film)
So, the big plot resolution is that the Quaker shoots a man to save her husband? Really? Somehow that seemed cheap.
I liked the first half hour. The building tension as the clock slowly headed toward 12:00 was well done… but then the script seemed to just get kind of lazy or something.
It's not the strongest movie.
I think the reason it still gets putting up there is because
a) it runs in real time, that is, the length of the movie is the length of the actions that happen in the film and
b) the cast – all of whom, even the supporting cast, have done a bunch of other cool things.
It’s a good film-class exercise movie, but not really one I’d watch again.
I'll buy that...
…but it isn’t really in real time. I suspected it was at the beginning, from the way it kept showing the clocks, so I started watching my own clock to keep track. A few minutes here and a few minutes there keep getting shaved off. It actually goes from 11:15 to 12:00 in about a half-hour. Then there’s shootin’!
It's not real time like Rope,
and it’s not as interesting in a filmic sense, but it’s roughly in real time which allows for it to build tension pretty effectively.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
If with the film,
it was the first feature film in which she was prominently featured. She’d been in Fourteen Hours but was a down-the-bill character. Up until that point, she had been acting primarily in teleplays.
From the mouth of Kelly:
I was very young when I made High Noon.Zinnemann was wonderful with people who knew their job and their metier as screen actors. But I wasn’t one of those who did. Early during filmmaking, he said to me, "Grace, I’m sorry, I can’t help you the way I should be able to. It wasn’t that he didn’t take an interest—he just didn’t know how to instruct me, and of course there was the problem of time. I couldn’t get the kind of direction from him that I needed as a neophyte, and I wasn’t equipped enough for moviemaking at that time to do it for myself. After I saw the finished picture, I was horrified! I remember thinking, “Well, this poor girl may never make it unless she does something quickly.” I rushed back to New York and started taking classes, with Sandy Meisner.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, that should have been "if with Kelly"
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with the Princess of Monaco...
Rear Window has the sexiest screen kiss of all time. At least, that was my opinion as a 15-year-old kid. I haven’t seen in it a while.
Yeah, she was a little raw in High Noon, though.
Fantastic in Rear Window and To Catch a Thief.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Would anyone here consider picking For Love of the Game?
That film contains one of the most unconvincing romantic plots in the history of cinema, Kelly Preston stinks as the love interest and the whole relationship is based upon sappy cliches that don’t even work on screen. But most of the baseball scenes (and there are a ton of them) are reasonably well-executed (or at least it seemed that way to me in 1999), and you do get to spend a good chunk of the movie listening to some pretty awesome work from Vin Scully. Scully, of course, is also sappy… but in more of a good way.
Also, know what sucked?
Fever Pitch.
I don’t suppose anyone around here needs to be told that fact, but it is so true I felt like saying it anyway.
JoPo had a blog post about movies that were better than the book they’re based upon a while ago. Specifically, he was asked about what movies were better than the book by the widest margin. The Godfather and Shawshank got lots of love in the comments. If you were to try doing the reverse… worst movie from best book… I think Fever Pitch has to be in the conversation, right? The book was awesome.
The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys is in contention, too.
As is Congo.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
The book Congo likely wouldn't be that good to me if I read it now.
The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys was great. The book was not.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I thought the British version (starring Colin Firth which adheres more to the original book about the team Arsenal) would be better but it sucked too. Love story seemed entirely flat and you wonder why they’re even together.
A lot of sci-movies are worse than the source material. I, Robot comes to mind.
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They're together because he's Colin Firth. Duh.
Well, I assume that’s her motivation anyway. I can’t imagine what else it would be, but since it’s him, I can’t imagine what other motivation a heterosexual girl would need.
I don’t know why he’s with her. Because she’s there? And then because she’s pregnant. Sounds like a good foundation for a happy and lengthy marriage.
Respectfully, but strenuously, disagree about Love Actually
The best rom com of them all, and not just for pairing Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson as a couple.
Holy hell, did I loathe that movie.
So cloying. It’s the road map for all of the other holiday related ensemble trash that has come since, like New Year’s Eve, Valentine’s Day. It was infuriating. Both TSLF and I were horrified by how bad it was, and she usually likes that stuff.
We both sat there horrified at how saccharine it was, especially after hearing some pretty positive word-of-mouth.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
You can't blame a movie for its copycats
I definitely though the british guy in America plot line was stupid (not really cloying, but too artificial and unimaginative) and the writing for the little kid (Hugh Grant’s nephew, I think) is not age-appropriate, but the rest of the plot lines seem genuine to me.
I suspect I have a much higher threshold for saccharine than a grizzled movie buff like yourself, but I thought the fact that a couple of the main plot lines end in heartbreak (especially the Thompson Rickman one) would have served to buffer it against the charges of “too sweet.”
I actually am able to watch a lot of drivel.
I can usually appreciate a movie if it succeeds at what it sets out to do. I really felt like Love Actually failed at what it was trying to do. I loathed Bill Nighy’s character and his storyline. I’ve succeeded in blocking the vast majority of the film out of my memory, thankfully, but the sour taste is still there.
As for the copycats line, its influence was mostly meant to draw the comparison between the films.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
So We Agree
Taken is a piece of shit.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
1. I’d like that supercharged Caddy with all the horsepower.
2. Kershaw at 1, I like Gordon at 60, and another startiing pitcher at 61.
3. Red pill- sweet. I have some crazy ass ideas about running the world.
4. I don’t mind Tom Hanks- You’ve Got Mail etc…
5. Brtiney and Madonna are awful picks. I would put Salma and Halle up there.
6. previous posters beat me to it.
talk to me, Johnny...
1. Probably some sporty convertible – I’ve always liked the idea of putting the top down on a nice day. Which model, I couldn’t begin to think about, I’ve never researched the advantages of one impractical car I can’t afford over another impractical car I can’t afford.
2. Felix Hernandez, Albert Pujols, Troy Tulowitzki.
3. I’ll go with the blue pill. I’m not one to claim he has all the answers, I think that in matters of opinion, the consensus of the masses will be closer to the most correct answer than one person’s opinion.
4. When Harry Met Sally and How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.
5. (Insert disclaimer about my wife being hotter than anyone else ever.) Terrible vote. Who was overlooked? Tons, but I’ll offer just a few (without seeing any answers from posters above me): Angelina Jolie. Shania Twain. Betty Grable. Mae West. (they did say all-time, right?) Michelle Pfeiffer. Teri Hatcher. The whole class of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit super-models: Paulina Porizkova, Elle MacPherson, etc. Hell, Jennifer Aniston wasn’t even the hottest girl on Friends!
6. I like the answer offered by the prior posters.
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Shania Twain
Still looks gorgeous. She’s on some reality show and she’s gotta be – what, in her 50s?
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Angelina Jolie is not hot
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
She certainly was at one point
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
She was the Dale Murphy of hot chicks
Insanely high peak, but flamed out pretty quickly (once she got married)
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 11, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
She Has That
Overcooked chicken wing thing happening now.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
1. Prius answer
2. #1: T-Tu, #60: Jeff Francis, #61: Ryan Ludwick
3. Both
4. “Annie Hall” and “Children of Men”
5. Melissa Joan Hart and Grace Jones
6. They were playing different opponents
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Wait, no
6. They were both Grace Jones
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Your dream car is a Prius?
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don't often dream of cars
but…
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I like that somehow you're considering Children of Men a rom-com.
Awesome.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 10, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1. If money was no object, what car would you purchase? Ford GT40
2. If MLB were to reset the rosters: #1 Bryce Harper; #60 Josh Johnson; #61 Gordo
3. Red. Really a great topic for a term paper.
4. Double feature of romantic comedies Give me a Jack Lemmon double feature of The Apartment and Some Like it Hot
5. “Hottest Women of All Time”: I’m the guy who was always turned on more by Courtney Cox than Jennifer Anniston. Britney Spears is a dog. Madonna was extremely sexual during those awkward pre-teen years for me, but not deserving of a “hottest” list. I’d leave Marilyn on there and add Audrey Hepburn (total fool for petite brunettes, don’t tell my wife), Carmen Electra (complete slut but so hot). I’m horrible at these lists because I don’t keep track of these things in my head, though I probably should. I would like to do unimaginable things to Tina Fey and Megan Mullally. Halle Berry and Charlize Theron are the obvious omissions.
6. They were dressed “business casual.”
1. The fucking Madden tour bus…game over…I win.
2. Roy Halladay. Eric Hosmer. Alex Gordon.
3. Plato said in 400BC that a democracy would never work because the people would always select the wrong leader. I am going with the dictator with my political views. Everything would be reinforced by Kauffmanian thought such as “you don’t give a hungry man a fish you give him a fishing pole”
4. Knocked-up and the Break-up.
5. It’s all relative. Each man/woman has their own opinion of hotness. Hence all of the marriages that happen every year. It’s so subjective that I believe any arguments on the matter are moot.
6. He is playing himself.
I am the one who knocks.
1. Aston Martin DB9
2. Kershaw, Gordon, Stanton
3. Red, duh
4. The 40 year old virgin is a romantic comedy as far as I’m concerned. So is eternal sunshine.
5. Fergie…
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Ha! Just kidding, that fugly skank should be under a bridge harassing billy goats.
With Madonna. I’d just swap out most of them for decent looking porn stars, nastiness trumps beauty anymore in my book.
by NobodyFsWDeJesus on Dec 11, 2011 12:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
nastiness trumps beauty anymore in my book.
That is the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time.
by Rufus R. Jones on Dec 12, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I do like Monique Alexander pre-implants a lot.
She could conceivably make a list for me.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
She does have an excellent dong huffing face.
Gives off a bit of a “Wow that’s interesting, tell me more.” with the eyes.
Google image search, I’m not a big enough perv to catalogue porn stage names in my head. Although I have met quite a few. (Ron Jeremy signed my Orgazmo dvd Jizz Master 0)
by NobodyFsWDeJesus on Dec 13, 2011 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
Johns Hopkins is not good enough either
1. Outside of the Prius, have to be either a BMW M7 or Audi A7
2. With #1 I’d go with Justin Upton. With #60 I’d hope for Elvls Andrus. At #61, look for Ricky Romero. If Romero was gone, I’d gladly grab Joe Saunders.
3. Lot of dictators around these parts. One person having all that power wouldn’t end well.
4. “Just Friends” is pretty funny. For a more traditional route, you can’t knock “Can’t Buy Me Love”. Surprised ‘Groundhog Day" hasn’t been brought up.
5. Pretty weak Top 5 in my opinion. Have to add Kate Beckinsale, Rachel Bilson, and Sarah Michelle Gellar myself.
6. I put up logic puzzles, and barely anyone tries. I throw up an easy brain teaser, and everybody chimes in. I see how it goes around here.
For me its a time thing...
I can think about a brain teaser, but a logic puzzle requires me to find pencil and paper
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by averagegatsby on Dec 11, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don't consider Groundhog Day a romantic comedy.
I would have chosen it, or at least contemplated it, but I would typically qualify a rom-com as a movie that primarily appeals to the female audience, or at least one in which love is the central part of the film. Groundhog Day is actually about his need to change himself to be able to move on.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 11, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
what is he moving on from?
is it him being able to appreciate life more? my favorite scene in that movie is probably in the bar when he learns her toast. you speak french? oui.
To be able to move on from being stuck on Groundhog Day in the literal sense of the word.
He basically needs to leave behind the awful person that he is. He needs to become a good person. Love is obviously in the mix, but he has to truly be a better person and without the motivation of getting out of that day.
I love this movie, too. I was just assuming that by using the genre of Romantic Comedy in this exercise, it has to be in the phallocentrically dismissive sense of the genre.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 11, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know what you're doing today
But can you call in sick?
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 11, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
The whole series of dialogue where he's talking to the groundhog during the chase is awesome
Not bad for a quadruped. You gotta check your mirrors, though. Just side of your eye…side of your eye.
They’re chasing us! Come on, make it fun!
Don’t drive angry. Don’t drive angry!
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I Have To
Believe much of this was ad lib.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
One Of My
Overall favorites.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 11, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
its in my top 5 comedies...
with Cable Guy and others….
if I ever met Bill Murray I would totally give him the Ned Ryerson line
I am the one who knocks.
by PhattStairs on Dec 11, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
bing again
are there any other movies like groundhog day, where the same day is played over and over? i’m guessing there are, but i’m blanking on this one.
by BeauJackson on Dec 11, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Back to the Future
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 11, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Likely mine, too.
Off the top of my head…
The Big Lebowski
Ghostbusters
Rushmore
Planes, Trains and Automobiles
The 40-Year-Old Virgin
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
…one in which love is the central part of the film.
So, you mean something more like in Die Hard, when Det. McClane goes to all of that trouble to reunite with his ex-wife Holly, right?
No, but Die Hard is my favorite Christmas movie, by far.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thus spoke Zarathustra
1. Not a car guy, but a ‘68 Dodge Charger would be cool….but I’d feel like an old man wearing a Hosmer jersey, so I’d prob go for your ridculously overpriced luxury Benz, BMW, Jaguar, whatever.
2. 6 years? I might still pluck Pujols. Strasburg around in the 6th? How about Ethier? Lo Mo?
3. Pass the dictator pills please
4. Annie Hall, Sid & Nancy
5. Raquel is the only one I’m feeling in that furious five…my own taste would skew classic, Sophia Loren, Audrey Hepburn, Debbie Harry, and Angie Dickinson. And just for fun, a Pia Zadora/Bernadette Peters sammich.
6. Gots to be different opponents?
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 11, 2011 12:59 AM EST reply actions
As usual, I'm late to the party.
1. Honda Fit. It’s the car I plan on purchasing this summer once my husband’s car is paid off, assuming my 1998 Chevy Cavalier can hold on until then. I hate shopping of all kinds, and since I’ve already decided on this one, regardless of money, I’d still get it just to not have to shop around again.
2. I suck at this kind of thing because I don’t pay enough attention to the other teams’ rosters. I do like the Tulowitzki kid though.
3. I have to go with blue. I don’t think a dictator can avoid becoming a tyrant because he (or she) would be forcing some unpopular opinions on people. And I don’t want a tyrant. Also, since one of my opinions is that voting should be, like taxes, mandatory, since I believe a certain amount of participation by the populous is required for a government such as ours to function properly, it would kind of undo the whole dictator thing. Also, I don’t think intelligence alone is adequate for a nation’s leader. Especially in a “dictator” I would want someone with respect for humanity as well as ideas, so them being intelligent alone isn’t a big sell for me.
4. What do you mean “forced”? This sounds like a great way to spend the evening as long as Katherine Heigl isn’t in any of them. For my double feature, I’d have to go with some old Cary Grant and/or Frank Capra movies, though. I’ll say “His Girl Friday” since it’s my all-time favorite Cary Grant movie and “You Can’t Take It With You” for the Frank Capra/James Stewart awesomeness.
5. Really? Britney Spears? I can’t think off the top of my head, but that list is pretty weak. I like Nighthawk’s answer until he got to Pia Zadora.
6. They’re not playing each other.
probably was the wrong word choice with "forced"
there are a lot of romantic comedies i don’t mind. it can be just as well done a genre as any. its just that when they are bad, they are truly awful.
I think it's fair (if not inclusive) to think that most of the guys in relationships on this board
are often subjected to having to sit through rom-coms. I’m figuring your ‘forced’ comment was tongue-in-cheek, though.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 11, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct.
My husband laughed, considering I made him watch “Tangled” with me a few nights ago. Well, I let him sleep through most of it while I watched it in the chair next to him, which is probably the best of both worlds since he didn’t have to watch much of it and yet I considered it “together” time.
Tangled rocks
That “Dreams” song is one of the funniest things I’d ever seen.
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His Girl Friday rocks
great movie
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 12, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Let's see
1. 
2. #1: Clayton Kershaw. #60: Ugh Josh Hamilton #61: Eric Hosmer.
3. Blue.
4. A Guy Thing and The Family Man.
5. Jennifer Connelly, Jessica Alba, Jessica Biel, Harumi Nemoto, Betty Page
6. They aren’t playing each other.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
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1. I was going to buy a Subaru Forester, but I impulsively went with a 1997 GMC Jimmy SLE. If the AM radio were grounded properly (I had a CD/radio installed), it would be perfect. I still have to have a full size 4WD for emergencies, but this vehicle handles 99%+ of the driving I need to do perfectly. The 4.3L Vortec V-6 is a great engine.
2. I would be horrible at this.
3. Definitely blue. I think both ends of the spectrum are wildly over-represented, and the “radical middle” is where a vast majority of people are.
4. I’ve seen very few of these. My wife was a cowboys and Indians person, particularly Indians. A Map Of The Human Heart is one of my favorites, and I liked The Wedding Singer, probably empathetically.
5. 
Pia did have a nice ass.
6. Asked and answered.
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Without checking previous answers
1. A Duesenberg.
2. With the top pick I’d take the best young shortstop, probably Tulowiski. I really don’t know who’d be available at 60 and 61.
3. Blue pill, under the condition that there’s a written constitution and rule of law. Who succeeds the intelligent dictator? What if my political ideas turn out not to work?
4. Probably It Happened One Night and His Girl Friday. Most romantic comedies make me want to puke. There’s a country song that goes “We can’t be in love like the movies, because in the movies they’re not in love at all.”
5. I wouldn’t vote for any of them. Remember that half the guys who read Men’s Health are gay and have lousy taste in women. I’ll take Grace Kelly, Audrey Hepburn, Isabella Rosselini, Sophia Loren, and Nina Hartley.
6. I’ve seen this one before, so won’t give it away.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
but we all think we would be a perfect dictator...
so we tend to forget how contingent life is and how situations (pun alert) dictate outcomes more so than how one thinks they would operate in said situation
I am the one who knocks.
by PhattStairs on Dec 11, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take the red pill
Knowing full well that my dictator would make Hitler seem like a snuggly little puppy.
by NobodyFsWDeJesus on Dec 13, 2011 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
Man, Grace Kelly's entrance in the Rearview Mirror is amazing.
That moment literally took my breath and made me say “holy shit!” when I saw it on a big-screen when the restored edition was re-released about 15 years ago. Makes you realize how bent James Stewart’s character really is.
Yeah,
I’ve seen Rear Window on the big screen, and it’s fucking fantastic.
Stewart really plays the perv in the later Hitchcock stuff he does. Rear Window and especially Vertigo are wrought with pervy subtext.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I like Rope quite a bit.
82 minutes or so….and way, way ahead of its time. In retrospect, probably not too impressive to a modern audience; you couldn’t remake Rope and have it be successful without a major rewrite.
Also… The 39 Steps is awesome. Jamaica Inn too. Just waxing Hitchcock here.
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I love trying to figure out how Hitchcock is going to fit the cut in every eight minutes or so.
The 39 Steps is probably my favorite of the British Hitchcock era. I haven’t seen Jamaica Inn. Maybe I’ll watch it tonight.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
What difference does it make if there's a written constitution?
The assumption is that the will of the people will govern, so presumably a written constitution couldn’t override the will of the people, but, more importantly, you didn’t specify what would be in it. Does the fact that there’s a written constitution have some innate value I’m missing?
The important thing is limiting the power of the government
with laws that everybody, including the government, has to follow. Let those laws match the will of the people, even if the will of the people is sharia or the code of Hammurabi, as long as they are fairly enforced and everybody knows exactly what they are. If you don’t like those laws, you can move somewhere else that you find more congenial.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
That’s sort of cheating, though.
I mean, in the real world, “the People,” as a whole, frequently do not want to abide by their nation’s written constitution. If you take the blue pill, I think you have to live with the fact that (to take the US Constitution as an example) the People will frequently want to infringe upon the free exercise of minority religions, abridge the freedom of the unpopular presses, deny due process to the criminally accused, impose cruel and unusual punishments on the convicted, etc. etc. etc… If you can override those desires by simply imposing the rule of law, then I don’t think you actually took the blue pill.
Both of these pills have some pretty unpleasant side effects. If it’s an option, I’d flush both pills down the toilet. If not, I think I’d seriously consider the red pill, since a benevolent dictator modeled upon my personal beliefs would at least have a healthy respect for all of the rights I described in the preceding paragraph.
Remember, This Is
All of the people’s will. Right now we only have 50% or less voter turnout. Many disaffected or apathetic voters might make a huge difference.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
That's certainly true.
This is the ghost of Plato we’re talking about… and the fate of our nation rests upon a magical pill. So, yeah, I don’t assume that the “will of the people” government would look much like any existing government.
But I also don’t think a majority of Americans would have allowed the Gitmo detainees access to the writ of habeas corpus. Only the rule of law is really likely to accomplish that. Under the “blue pill” government, I suspect those guys would never get a day in court.
We Will Never
Know.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 14, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
this is definitely noteworthy. However….there are times when calling for such things is purely political.
Slightly off-topic…….I was entirely nonplussed when certain vocal people were calling for “a fair trial” for Saddam Hussein. These were people who wanted to see George W. Bush fail above all else.
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I'd have just summarily shot Saddam
after a quick military trial, Ceaucescu-style. The rules are different in wartime than in peacetime.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
This is what I was getting at with my original question
In the abstract, people like due process rights and equal protection of the laws. In specific cases, especially when emotions run high, they often want the accused railroaded and want to single out certain minority groups for disparate treatment. Is the written constitution supposed to be some sort of device to try to ensure that the long-term will can override the short-term will? Does that work or is it just a cop out?
The Mob Rule
Aspect of the blue option is mitigated by the gretaer participation and better access to information we have now.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 14, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
1. Range rover with a driver.
2. King Felix, Hoz, Jamele Weeks
3. Red pill – Bread and circuses are not for me.
4. Proposal and How to Lose a Guy in 10 days. I have no problem watching a rom-com with a girl- they may not be fulfilling, but i find them entertaining and kinda catharthic, and i get in good with the girl who associates me with all those warm feelings.
5. I’d like a bit of French flavor on the list: Mata Hari, Brigitte Bardot, Audrey Tautou,
6. Because of society.
If you are gonna go the car with driver route...
Why wouldn’t you go Maybach?
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by averagegatsby on Dec 11, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Mata Hari was Dutch and not especially hot physically
but she must have had a lot of charisma.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
Blow Jobs Increase
The hotness factor exponentially. Also, general openness to experimentation.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 11, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Audrey Tautou is delish
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 11, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
All very good questions -- seems like they could have been spread over a few Fridays
1. If money was no object, I doubt I’d be able to choose just one. I’d have to move to an area where I could have a 15-20 car garage. I imagine the occupants would include a Mercedes SLS, Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, Ferrari 458, 1957 Ferrari 250 GT California Spider, etc., etc. For family road trips I suppose I’d need something more practical…like a Mercedes/Brabus SV12 R Biturbo 800 (at 788 horsepower allegedly the world’s fastest 4-door car). Or maybe just a BMW/Alpina B7 would do. And if you want to be environmentally-friendly with money as no object, then screw a Prius: Try the Fisker Karma or Tesla Model S.
2. Stanton, then best two pitchers still available at 60 and 61.
3. Red pill. The “will of the people” is not really a consensus anymore—it’s the “will of what will probably be best for my present and future personal financial interests.” I think it would be interesting to see what kind of political enema an intelligent, benevolent dictator might bring. Ideally, this dictator (and subsequent dictators) would encourage bloodless coups every 10 years or so, just to freshen things up.
4. OMD’s suggestions were great. I’d probably go High Fidelity, Crazy, Stupid, Love, and Love and Other Drugs in that order.
5. That’s just an awful Top 5. I don’t care if they were just considering each woman at her all-time peak. The problem with modern society and the internet is that it makes much harder to create a list these days. When the only women you saw were certain movie stars 2-3 times a year in your local theater, it necessarily limited your pool to a much more manageable number. I’ll just throw out my Top 5 of the moment (subject to change 3 minutes from now): Charlize, Halle, Mila, Olivia Wilde and Olga Kurylenko.
6. I assume you’re using a little trickeration with the wording of the question, and that the two men weren’t necessarily playing each other. Either that, or I don’t understand the rules of checkers very well. Which is entirely possible—it’s been a while.
Olivia Wilde is a stone-cold fox.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Personally,
I thought the Tron sequel was pretty damn badass…..really can’t figure out why it got so much negative press…?
Am I a moron?
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- Crow T. Robot
I don't think you're a moron at all
I actually saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago. I DVR’d it and have re-watched it a couple times since just because of the sound/soundtrack, look and feel. It’s one of the best sounding movies I’ve ever seen (if that makes sense). I’ll be really interested to see what Kosinski can do in his next project.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
i'd' have to agree with this
just caught it on starz the other week. had no interest in it before deciding to watch. figured i’d watch it for 10 minutes and tune out. but, the music and colors were so badass that i ended up watching the whole thing.
by BeauJackson on Dec 12, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it worked REMARKABLY well as a sequel, and the fact that it was 30 YEARS after the original actually bolstered it……just phenomenal.
Honestly, it was unfairly panned. For real. I thought it was a very cool movie on its own.
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Not sure how I missed this two days ago, but good questions
1. If money was no object, what car would you purchase? Doesn’t have to be a new car. I’m expecting a lot of Prius answers, but I’m open to ideas.
Gotta be honest: I’m loving Zipcar. I can drive all sorts of different cars, and I don’t have to deal with all the hassle of actually owning a car. If I was buying, my first instinct is the only car I’ve ever owned: a 1991 Jeep Cherokee Laredo. I should never have sold it. If there weren’t any of those still running, I go with one of those new Audis.
2. If MLB were to reset the rosters, and the Royals ended up with the #1 pick in a snake draft, who would you target for the #1, #60 and #61 pick? All contracts would be voided, and the Royals would control players for six seasons.
I have no idea who will still be available with the 60th and 61st pick but I’m going with hitters in the mid 20s for my first three picks. Tulo because of position scarcity and then depending on whose availble.
3. The ghost of Plato offers you one of two pills. If you take the blue pill, from now on your government will precisely represent the will of its people. If you take the red pill, your country will be seized by an intelligent dictator whose political views are identical to yours. Which will it be?
I’m sort of dumbfounded by the red pill people. I’ve worked in politics for years and I spend my free time thinking and talking about it, and I still don’t know what my political views are on all sorts of issues. When an intelligent dictator with views identical to mine faces questions about whether and when to restrict access to abortion, how to determine which companies run afoul of anti-trust regulations, and what sorts of restrictions, if any, should be placed on the right to free assembly (how should be people be allowed to protest and what measures should be used if they do not adhere to the restrictions), he’s going to be stumped. And that’s just the first letter of the alphabet.
4. If you were forced to spend an evening watching a double feature of romantic comedies, what two movies would you actually enjoy?
When Harry Met Sally. Love Actually. I could fill a week of evenings with rom coms and be OK, but the second week would get painful very quickly.
5. Menshealth.com recently announced the poll results for a “Hottest Women of All Time” survey. The top five were Jennifer Aniston, Raquel Welch, Marilyn Monroe, Britney Spears, and Madonna. How people failed to arrive in mass to vote for Elizabeth Cady Stanton is beyond me, but the results are the results. Thoughts on the Top 5? Who was overlooked?
I like looking at gorgeous women, but it would take me a week to compile a top 5 list. I can see Jennifer Aniston on the list (she’s the platonic ideal of a woman who’s gorgeous yet attainable), and the next two are icons, but Madonna and especially Britney Spears (short peak that wasn’t even that high) confuse me.
6. Two men play checkers. They play five games and each man wins five games. There were no ties. How is this possible?
Bring back the logic puzzles.
RE: #3
But the alternate is a government precisely representing the will of the people. There isn’t a middle ground. These are two extremes that you are choosing between.
Do you not spend more time thinking about politics than the majority of the populace? Do you not believe that generally your belief system (whatever it may be) would benefit the greater good than what the majority of Americans would choose?
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think most people have any will on most issues
So I’m more fine with a government that accurately represents the will of the people on most issues. The ten thousand people who have an opinion on whether the Medco-Express Scripts merger should be blocked can weigh in and make their voices heard.
Since corporations aren’t people, I’m willing to let this play out without too much fear that the rich/powerful will bend the government to their own interests (which I think is the main fear a benevolent dictator is guarding against).
I certainly do not take the question to be allowing for only representing the people who have well-formed opinions on an issue.
Otherwise the exercise doesn’t make sense. On one side, you have this extreme circumstance. On the other sort of the status quo only with the influence of business taken out of the equation. The precise representation of the will of the people includes everyone, at least as far as the red pill people are reading the question.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
I guarantee if we have a poll on this site on whether the Medco-Express Scrips merger should be blocked, we'll have like five votes.
The hardest thing about being a political junkie is realizing that 90% of the time, 90% of the people aren’t paying attention to this thing you think is really cool.
But conversely, the hardest thing about actually working in politics/policy is realizing that no matter how interested you are, the issues are just too complex for one person to form opinions (not just meaningful ones) on all of them.
I guess if you force everyone to vote, we’d get some results on every issues, but the reality is, that on the vast majority of issues, almost nobody has an opinion. They have no will to be represented. If you push them to give you a yes or no answer, they can do that (anyone can flip a coin), but if you ask them an open ended question, the answer will be silence. It’s not that people are stupid, it’s that they’re electing somebody else to think about these things so they don’t have to. If we have the will of the people accurately represented, I assume that, on most issues, the 95% of people who have no opinion either drop out or cancel each other out.
This Is Precisely
Why the founders created the system they did. Someone needs to take time off from their job and concentrate on these obscure, often mundane issues the vast majority never think about. Even then, staff ends up doing the leg work to decide how legislators vote. A person I know once heard Ted Kennedy ask a staffer “Where do we stand on this issue”? She ridiculed him for this, but it is quite understandable.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
The other reason we have the electoral college
And why U.S. senators used to be elected by state representatives, is that our founders were wary that the average person (read: literate, adult, white male) could effectively balance the long-term and societal needs of the nation with their own personal needs.
I don't think I wrote that first response very well
There are two things at play here:
1) A lot of this stuff is unresolved because it’s tough. There’s a great quote from Eisenhower when he is handing off the Presidency to the very young Kennedy and he cautions Kennedy not to make snap judgments. I can’t find it right now, but it’s something like “No easy questions will come to you as President; the ones that are easy are answered before they ever reach your desk.”
2) A lot of this stuff is technical. We have intense fights over what level of comprehension the package inserts inside prescription drugs have to be written to or how banks should account for the collateral they receive in a tri-party repurchase agreement. These things make huge differences in the balance of power between, in the first example, industry and consumer, and, in the second example, industry and regulators, but they are questions best settled by subject-matter experts. I’m not even sure how you would bring popular will to bear, but at least the public includes a great many subject-matter experts, while a single individual can not possibly hope to be an expert across all fields.
In the end, I trust the people to find the balance on the difficult questions and to somehow take advantage of the expertise on the technical questions. In both those respects they can not do worse and will likely do better than a single empowered individual.
I Never Before
Heard so much said by people who knew nothing about the real issue as the recent controversy about raising the debt ceiling.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I was assuming that the dictator represented my views after I had been fully-informed on the issue
As in, I get a staff full of people to support me, but ultimately, I am the final say in the legislative, executive and judicial branch.
But, if I’m just throwing darts at the wall in my free time to determine policy, then the red pill is a lot less enticing. Then again, I still don’t want the blue pill. I think the majority of people are reactionary and short-sighted (largely due to emotion and survival needs) and we would end up nuking Iran, China, Mexico, France, North Korea, and Pakistan within a week.
I think the idea is that the dictator isn't taking orders from you but acting independently
I took it that the hypothetical is meant to remove the temptation of power from the equation. Either way, you won’t have the power to decide stuff, but are you investing the power in the people or a dictator given your views.
Interesting point on the wars. My first reaction was the same, but historically, at least in this country, the people have been far more isolationist/pacifist than the leaders. I do think that foreign affairs would suffer pretty dramatically in a pure democracy, but I don’t know that we’d have more wars.
That's the way I read it as well.
My main rationale for red pill is that ideologically my beliefs on what the government should be/do is starkly different from what the prevailing trends seem to be. I feel like the government should adopt a relatively laissez-faire approach to social legislation, social libertarianism, if you will, while providing for the weakest and trying to ensure for the well-being of the most vulnerable. This likely means heavier regulation of big business, and while most leftists are hesitant to go this far a redistribution of wealth via taxes.
This is probably not the will of the people, despite the fact that it would benefit the vast majority of the populace, because people still view the American Dream as attainable. In this current political climate, it largely is not.
hawkins is going to lose his shit when he reads that.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 13, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Going to?
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
My main goal is equality of opportunity
It sounds like you’re driving at similar ends but with a more detailed plan for what route to take to get there. I feel like the people as a whole have a strong incentive to equalize opportunity because whenever it becomes starkly unequal (as I agree with you it has), the majority will outvote the minority who are trying to hoard the spoils for themselves.
Of course, part of the reason that’s not reflected in the current system is that the poor are so much less likely to vote. If you had a system that truly reflected the will of the people (not just those who go to the polls), the results might be far closer to what you want than it seems right now.
However, my impression is that the people who would benefit most from the sort of economic liberalism you propose would probably be most opposed to the sort of social libertarianism you endorse. People who don’t have economic security often favor stricter order imposed on society in many forms.
However, my impression is that the people who would benefit most from the sort of economic liberalism you propose would probably be most opposed to the sort of social libertarianism you endorse. People who don’t have economic security often favor stricter order imposed on society in many forms.
From a certain perspective… this is why the blue pill is such a bad idea.
Desiring Security Is
Natural, particularly as one ages. It is easy for young firebrands to espouse liberty at any price, with no security.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm primarily saying that I don't believe those people know enough to vote in their best interests.
Look at the non-rich/non-religious right Republican voting block. These people are often poor and lack post-secondary education. Their opportunity for achieving the American Dream is microscopically small, yet they consistently vote against what is in their best interests because so much of Republican rhetoric feeds on fear-mongering. I trust my belief system to watch out for them a lot more than I believe in the accuracy of their evaluation of their station in life.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 14, 2011 3:49 AM EST up reply actions
I do not subscribe to this belief system
The idea that the huge poor wing of the Republican party and the relatively large professional class wing of the Democratic party are all unable to perceive their self-interest is the sort of extreme hypothesis that should require extreme proof.
It is perfectly fine for people to elevate order or justice above economic interests. Now, you can think the need for order is exaggerated by fear-mongering and you can disagree with the sense of justice (there’s a surprising willingness to cut off the nose to spite the face), but that’s different from saying you know what’s important to them better than they do.
Not what's important, per se,
rather what would likely benefit them most. But that’s just nitpicking.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 14, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I, for one, have post-secondary education and have voted Republican
and tend to lean toward conservatives, politically.
I am also not religious.
Didn’t want to out myself here but I guess I just did.
In a litmusTest/petriDish scenario, the idea of capitalism is how this country has gotten to be the #1 Super-Duper power of the world……. the perversion of it in later years (I’m talking 1990-onward) has brought these ideas into question for no good reason.
In other words, the trickle-down theory of capitalism has worked and works and will work—if couched in the proper eggshell. Perversions thereof, and unfortunate misconceptions therein, have screwed over A) The Country, B) Republicans and (idiotic) Tea Party adherents, and C) American capitalism.
$0.02
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- Crow T. Robot
by Crooow on Dec 15, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a post-graduate education and am a moderate Republican
Jan Meyers is my kind of GOP representative. I would consider voting for a Joe Lieberman or Dennis Moore Democrat, especially if the Republicans were running a Tea Party/Christian Coalition candidate. However, I would vote for a Tea Partier rather than a Nancy Pelosi Democrat.
Note: I have lived in a country that has had a Socialist government for the last eight years. I have some experience in this matter.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
I wouldn't mind blowing the crap
out of both North Korea and Iran’s military capabilities, without using nukes and trying to limit collateral damage.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
Good questions
1. Range Rover.
2. #1- Eric Hosmer, #60- Jon Lester, #61- Zack Greinke
3. Blue pill
4. When Harry Met Sally and Love, Actually (god, that hurt)
5. I agree for the most part, but I’ve always thought Madonna was overrated. I’d replace her with Kathy Ireland.
6. They aren’t playing each other.
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http://www.chiefscommand.com
In My Fantasy
No.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Did I embark on that debate here before?
Or did you actually comb through the vaults at Inconsiderate Prick and come across this?
http://inconsiderateprick.blogspot.com/2008/02/revised-perceptions.html
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
i forget how i ran across the kathy ireland rewind yourself story
i think it mightve been one of the three links below some review
by BeauJackson on Dec 14, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Ahh, that makes sense.
I forget about those.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions

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