I could have swore everyone knew we were going to be terrible this year. Hell, even before we lost Cassel/Charles/Berry/Moeaki, I didn’t think we’d make .500 with our schedule.

Were there really a lot of people that expected us to win the division this year or something?

Lack of depth is Pioli’s fault. Injuries are not Haley’s fault—how many teams could lose (arguably) their 4 most important players for the season and not falter? I always liked Haley’s attitude, and we forget that he brought the team out of the swamp they were in earlier this year to win 4 in a row. Such a stupid move. Especially if they hire Josh McDaniels.

On the other hand, getting repeatedly blown out is going to drive ownership crazy. You can blame it on the injuries, but good coaches seem to find ways to at least be competitive no matter what. I think it’s pretty clear that Haley was not a good coach, at least for now.

I wonder if there was some conflict between him and Pioli. It just gave them a reason to fire him. I thought he was doing fine considering the #1 schedule and all the injuries.

But I started to follow them after my Royals fandom……Seems a little strange, I didn’t think he was the problem

I’m fine with it because, injuries aside, Haley has been very inconsistent. He changed his approach to the offseason, due to the strike of course, but that backfired. He was a swashbuckling gambler last year, but if anything has been overly conservative when nothing was to lose in game management this season. The team has been completely blown out 5 times this season. Some obvious rifts opening between he and the GM. Finally lost his cool and got flagged and called out by the refs in-game, which is rare in the NFL.

I think he and the GM aren’t on the same page, and when that happens after a GM has been in place 2 3/4 seasons, it’s the coach who gets the axe.

That series where they gave up over 80 yards in penalties, including an unsportsmanlike conduct on Haley might have been the last straw.
Any rumors on who they might replace him with?

He did a great job of maturing players but overall he was too immature and not ready for the HC position. He will get hired as an OC somewhere…

Why in the world do we keep trying to run him between tackles? Makes no sense to me. He’s a speed guy and has to be outside to run.

The pick was an interesting one to say the least but it wasn’t a bad pick. We just don’t know how to use his talent to put him and us in the best position to be successful.

Purely on wins/losses his record doesn’t seem so bad. But its clear he was heading in the wrong direction. Guys like Haley – yellers – can only coach in one place for so long until their message rings hollow unless they are winning. And its clear he had a bad relationship with Chan Gailey, Charlie Weis and Scott Piloi. When you have a bad relationship with the major people you work with, maybe its time to look in the mirror.

Yea, it sucks he lost major parts and Pioli didn’t provide him the depth he needed. But even a decimated Chiefs team shouldn’t get absolutely blown out the way they have. The Texans have lost two QBs, their franchise RB, their best defensive player and their Pro Bowl wideout this year and they have ten wins. Now their GM I’m sure has provided better depth than Pioli has, but I think you also have to work with what you have, and too often the team just looks utterly unprepared and disorganized.

I think Haley (who I never liked as a hire in the first place) would actually succeed as a HC somewhere. I do like his gambling attitude (the stats says he’s right to go for it on fourth down and onside kicks as often as he does it). But he needs to learn better personal relations skills. Belichick and Parcells are not the friendliest guys in the world, but they don’t piss off everyone that works with them either. Learn some humility, learn to get along with others and he could perhaps succeed. But not here. Bad fit.

I liked how aggressive he was.

Every report I’ve heard/read for the past few months has talked about his strained relationship with Pioli. Apparently they really didn’t see eye to eye on the Tyson Jackson draft pick. Pioli also undercut him on crediting Cassel’s development to Weis, who actually told Haley that Cassel was his to deal with. Pioli was waiting for his opportunity to can Haley, and finally got it now.

The shittiest thing about all this is that Pioli seems to be hitching his wagon to Cassel and has reportedly intimated that he has no desire to draft a QB in this draft. Awful decision.

I guess I don’t care for him, but I’m curious why he’s drawing the huge negative reaction from Chiefs fans over rumors he is the #1 target? He wasn’t particularly successful in Denver on the field, but he did blow up a team that was stagnating, and that team is now in first place. Shouldn’t he get at least partial credit for that?

Is he an abrasive personality or something? I guess I don’t know much about him. I know he was OC in New England and he’s in St. Louis now.