Mitch Maier Non-Tender Vigil Open Thread
by Freneau on Dec 12, 2011 5:17 PM EST
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PrintWill MITCH get to come back to summer camp next season, despite the higher rates for 2012? Yost seemed to talk about him an awful lot in the paper, but was he actually thinking of someone else?
The drama is unbearable.
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I'd say
They non-tender MEETCH, Laffey and Pena….I think they keep Getz (Goddamn)
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions
Why is the consenus that Getz will be tendered?
Not that I disagree with that consensus, but I’m trying to get a handle on what it’s collectively based on.
Is it because there aren’t a ton of infielder options?
Is it because we assume the FO just likes him and will refuse to give him up?
Is it because we assume the FO will overvalue grit and make a poor decision?
I’m curious as to which factors are leading us collectively, to expect this thing.
I'd say because the trade of YamYam
It looks like they’re gonna hang on to Getzboy
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Mainly just the grit and irrational overliking by Dayton and Ned
But also the lack of any other 2B options currently in-house, and the fact that Getz has at least one option year remaining make him stashable in AAA.
Personally, I would have rather just have kept Yamaico. But work ethic, lack of grit, etc., etc.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
here silence stands like heat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8BrJX-mdI4
here is unfenced existence
by Freneau on Dec 12, 2011 5:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Love The Reading
Maybe Whitman would sound better with Courtenay reading him.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
30 Next June
You won't be able to trust him
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
No comments on the song?
No blink fans?!!??!
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
The Song's OK
And they always had that naked schtick going on. Are they still around?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m a huge fan……. They had a bit of a bad break up in 05? But they made a new album and are back on tour….I saw them in Tampa, it rocked
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
As Someone Who
Lived through the Sex Pistols et al, I never got the punk association for these guys.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think they're "punk"
Maybe “pop punk” or something….I just really like their music and their humorous actions
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I Think You
Were their target audience in 2005.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean 1996.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
No, I meant
8.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was 14 in 1980
back when the best radio option was KY102 and MTV hadn’t been invented yet. Journey, Foreigner, REO, Styx, Boston, Van Halen, etc. Barf. The only cool new stuff was Springsteen, the Clash, the Talking Heads, AC/DC, the Ramones, and Zevon. We hadn’t heard of rap yet.
However, my impression is that 14-year-olds could get away with a lot more shit then than they can now.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
Blink is like Cheap Trick.
Not very punk, but whatevs.
They only play three chords too...
More Goofus than Gallant...
by Tracer Bullet 82 on Dec 12, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
After this past season MITCH will always seem 11 years old to all of us.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Per Piodeportes, the guy who broke the news of the Pujols Signing:
#Royals are aggressively pursuing LHP Tsuyoshi Wada
Hmm…
I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.
2012 is the year we shine.
"Hmm..." indeed
Age: 30
Career WHIP of 1.186
Career ERA of 3.30
K/9: 8.3
BB/9: 2.4
I don’t know how much he could improve, though, and coming to MLB with his numbers make him a “meh” in my book. But it would be interesting to take a flyer on him. That can’t do any worse than Yasuhiko Yabuta.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
He was a starter in Nippon. Looks like he missed time in 2009 due to injury
It may be a long-shot risk worth the taking if the price is right.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
I can't bear to even watch this drama unfold...
Just knowing that I’ll have to change my screen name is playing with my emotions.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 5:57 PM EST reply actions
Worst case scenario
Georgefreakingsherril!
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Or
Chrisfuckinggetz
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Christalmightygetzagain
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Salvadormoreofasaviorthantebowperez
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Breathe Easy my friend
Do these effectively hide my thunder?
by splitty on Dec 12, 2011 7:16 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Don't do it
I didn’t die when Dejesus left.
by NobodyFsWDeJesus on Dec 13, 2011 2:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I Changed When
Finley left.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mitch would be a loss
He’s good Cain insurance, and a left handed bat, which we need on the bench, particularly if the catcher or utility guy is right handed.
Getz is just terrible, though I’d be find optioning him to omaha as depth/filler if he didn’t get paid jack squat until Colon is ready for a call-up.
by WURoyal on Dec 12, 2011 5:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Unless Lough Is
As good or better, I see no real in house options. Dyson is just a novelty.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Maier should have the edge just due to defense
I am not sure Lough can really play CF on any sort of regular basis. At the plate, they might be close — Maier’s last year in AAA (316/366/470) looks pretty like Lough’s 2011 (318/367/482). Mitch’s walk rate jumped in the majors (to 10%), so he might project a little better for 2012 than Lough.
If He Cannot
Plat CF, we’d need Dyson, too. I’m not sure that is a good thing. A bench of C, Renteria, Lough and Dyson is uninspiring at best, and powerless.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone else even remotely scared that they look at Yuni to fill the utility role?
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 6:05 PM EST reply actions
I really don't think they will
But if they do….I will be legitimately furious
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
and if they did
I would legitimately be furious
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
No, not really
I have accepted a Renteria overpay. I have no doubt Dayton will offer him 2 years when no other team was willing to do so…just so he “doesn’t get away from us.”
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be alot more ok with that than most other options.
Not 2 years though. Come to think of it, I’d probably rather see Punto for a year.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Punto has been about as good as hitter as Renteria over the last few years
(300 wOBA since 2009 vs. 293 wOBA) and has rated much better defensively at SS (6.2 UZR in 800 innings vs. 2.1 UZR/150 in 2000 innings) (SSS warning applies to Punto).
And, yes, I cannot believe it has come to advocating for Little Nicky Punto.
Does he still know How to Play the Game the Right Way?
Or is he too far removed from his Twins days?
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
He Had A
Freak spike in offensive stats in 2011. I suspect more judicious use of his minimal talents and the switch the the NL might be the culprits.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Even without 2011, Punto's numbers in 2009 and 2010 (289 wOBA) would still be about the same as Renteria
His career wOBA is 296.
Punto really should not play full time (although he might be able to match the 2011 version of Alcides if he got the same playing time), but he has virtues as a bench player — he plays a mean SS and can play 2B and 3B too, he switch hits (which complements Escobar and Giavotello), and he should come dirt cheap (he signed last year for 1 year and less than $1 million).
(he signed last year for 1 year and less than $1 million).
That would make it more palatable, but will Nedgar go Bloomers and give him 300-400 PA’s?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Tender Vigils
Not just a thread topic, but a fine mass-market cat food as well.
by WaywardSaint on Dec 12, 2011 6:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
ok so
I looked at da statz and mitch has 0 era how can u not resign him, come on royals
/GM
"what is age anyway? what's old? what's young?" - Frank White
by AlexGordonHRmagnet on Dec 12, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions
Small sample size, but I think if we give him a shot he can keep it up
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
@@@TWSS@@@
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Mitch could be in porno’s ….I guarantee it
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really enjoying this string of comments
especially mine
"what is age anyway? what's old? what's young?" - Frank White
by AlexGordonHRmagnet on Dec 12, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
You started it off
Just like Gordo, you're the perfect leadoff hitter!
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
How can they just toy with our emotions like this?
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 12, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I Shan't Abide
In this sort of uncertain atmosphere. I’m off to town. My snowblowing work is done.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
I can't take this anymore.
I’m outta here for now…
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 12, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions
Say it isn't so
Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
this is the only thing I can think of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Olo8gzgpC4
Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
When is it going to be announced....where?
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 12, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions
it's not official til annoyed grunt posts a fanpost though
by Loose Seal on Dec 12, 2011 8:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Zing!
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 12, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone but Laffey is coming back per dutton
by WURoyal on Dec 12, 2011 7:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Which means we’ll tender Getz, Mitch, and Pena. I think Getz is optioned to Omaha assuming Gia is healthy. Mitch is the 4th OF. Pena is the back-up C and the utility guy will be a FA.
by WURoyal on Dec 12, 2011 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Getz vs. Dyson Spring Training Showdown!
(assuming the veteran utility guy is acquired). I bet Getz gets time in CF in spring training.
And keep in mind the Royals can cut any of these guys in Spring Training for 1/6 their 2012 salary.
You're probably right
except I think Getz getz traded for a dead arm.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
Per twitter?
Didn’t Dutton just say that Laffey is to be non-tendered? I don’t know that this means that he’s definitely the only player who will be non-tendered. He said nothing about any other player, nor did he say “only” Laffey or anything like that.
You may know me as NYRoyal.
by Scott McKinney on Dec 12, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, Dutton clarified it with a subsequent tweet
You may know me as NYRoyal.
by Scott McKinney on Dec 12, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
that got minimized quickly
Doubting Thomas, the patron saint of sabermetrics
by Jeff Zimmerman on Dec 12, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
Twins let Mijares go. Might be worth a flyer as a bounce back candidate, and his splits vs. LH are OK (not great). Even last year, he pitched tolerably against LHB.
Anyone see the Lee Judge's earnest love song to Kendall in his Star column?
I’m a few days late to this, but Jesus, the tone of that column, and the comments rub me the wrong way. Its the elevation of “manliness” or leadership over measurable things, the tiresome numbers vs conventional wisdom debate.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 12, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions
Lee Judge seems oddly interested in the "manliness" of the Royals players.
Kind of like Michael Mann, but more awkward and weird.
Agreed....painfully obvious that he wants to be considered "one of them"
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 12, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
He Took One
For the team!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
It's a little more awkward that he was sucking up to Chris Getz...
At least Kendall would be good to have your back in a bar fight…
More Goofus than Gallant...
by Tracer Bullet 82 on Dec 13, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Kendall's not manly
Part of being manly is treating your family right. Kendall has a past history of not doing so.
"All the boys think she's a guy
She's got crazy Frenchy eyes."
Luke Scott non-tendered
Would only make ~6M in 2012. His injuries must be pretty rough if the O’s just let him walk.
Doubting Thomas, the patron saint of sabermetrics
Birferism Uber Alles!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 12, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
According the Royals twitter feed from about an hour ago:
#Royals will not tender contract to LHP Aaron Laffey. Other 31 unsigned players on roster will be tendered. Seven were already signed 4 2011
absurd
no one speaks ill of joe saunders
by BeauJackson on Dec 12, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Keppinger was non-tendered.
Maybe the former Royal will return to play middle infield bench warmer?
Go Royals!
Why Was He
Traded?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Unclear
The guy he was swapped for was Russ Haltiwanger, who was a complete non-prospect.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
He's Listed As
Arb eligible. If we could pick him up for 1/1, I’d be happy. I’m sure he can stand around in the OF in a pinch, too.
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by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Cortes not offered a contract
Apparently it’s not OK to walk a guy an inning at AAA.
by WURoyal on Dec 13, 2011 1:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
sign him up....
im for acquiring anyone who throws 98 on a regular basis
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 13, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Is he out of options? Weird that Seattle would give up on him. I remember hearing he was throwing really soft at one point. Like 88 on the FB, but I believe he was injured (or I could be thinking of Gutierrez).
I know he can’t come back to the Royals, but I’m shocked the Mariners don’t think he’s worth a 40 man spot. He must have some real problems (heavy substance abuse?).
by WURoyal on Dec 13, 2011 4:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering
What happened to him after MTV in the 90s
by NobodyFsWDeJesus on Dec 13, 2011 2:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am glad MITCH will be brought back
He has been my favorite Royal over the last couple of years.
The Dodgers signed Tony Gwynn Jr. to a two year deal yesterday. That was crazy. That news must have been comforting to Mitch. If Gwynn jr. gets a multi-year contract there must be a home for guys like Mitch in this league. Nothing against Gwynn jr., he just is not as good a baseball player as Mitch.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
Watching Him Track
A fly ball is such a joy for me. UZR doesn’t like him in CF that much, and he doesn’t have the arm for RF or bat for LF, but used correctly he’ll be good to have for another year at least.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
MITCH!
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 13, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions
this thread has no greenposts
…yet
"what is age anyway? what's old? what's young?" - Frank White
by AlexGordonHRmagnet on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions
I got one finally
bitches!
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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