#Royals #Braves and #RedSox discussing 3 team deal. Soria to Sox, Jurrjens to Royals, Cain, Scutaro + to Atlanta.
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That's all great but what happens when he pitches?
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by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
MITCH!!!!!!
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 22, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That’s all great but what happens when he pitches?
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by Kim DeJesus on Dec 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dyson
That’s what speed do.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 22, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yoenis Cespedes!!!
Obviously trading Cain means Cespedes is coming. What is the equivalent to a hunting trip for Cubans so Pena, Yuni, and Rodriguez can take him on?
Rafting trip,
but not the white-water kind. /racism
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by Dr. van Strijcker on Dec 22, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, that's racism, bro. I love to do the racism!
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Yuni signing makes so much sense now
Need someone on the team that speaks Cuban.
(am I doing it right?)
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Sounds like a bad deal to me
Three years of top closer/reliever performance at a slightly below market rate, plus SIX years of cost-controlled, probably slightly below average to average CF production, all for just two years of average-ish starting pitching at perhaps slightly below market rate?
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a weird deal for the Braves
Scutaro only has one more year left on his contract, right?
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They've been asking for a CF all winter supposedly
I don’t really know why, they just got Bourn. But they’ve been after Adam Jones.
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Weird.
Maybe they wanted to get Adam Jones and move him to LF. That would mean they are accurately evaluating his defense, but probably not his offense.
they are looking for a 2013 CF
whether that means he is a prospect in 2012 or a LF
This has to happen
Sometimes I think DM makes moves just to spite us.
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I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister
by Hanging Brainister on Dec 22, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
There was also this from ChiefsInsider:
3-way trade with #royals to send out Soria gaining steam again. KC might land staff ace in return before X-mas! Stay tuned!
I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.
2012 is the year we shine.
If "staff ace" is referring to Jurrjens
then I wonder if ChiefsInsider is also still championing Palko as the QB of the future.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 22, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jurrjens has ace material about as much as Teaford, Hochevar and Chen
http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/10/4/2468242/royals-starting-pitcher-target-jair-jurrjens
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Dec 22, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
He is a Top 10 GM in Kansas City right now.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure the T-Bones have one that could go above Pioli.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I hate when I don't get just make jokes, but Pioli bashing is absurd.
Pioli has been fine. Every criticism I have read about him has been nothing but nonsense. No worthwhile QBs have been available to draft, and the only bad draft was the Tyson Jackson one—and that draft sucked for the majority of teams.
Porbably needed a different order of words there.
Maybe a “to,” too.
The Cassel contract figured in as well.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
On the positive for Pioli?
Cause really that contract is pretty good. Front loaded when we had space and no other real options. Now he will only make 5 mil next year.
tyler palko is a legiitmate backup qb?
battle, piscatelli, etc?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Given the market
So, 3 seasons in from a 2 win team with no major (1st rd) QB shift, and the complaint is depth? That is a pretty good direction.
Not to mention, those guys are all adequate options. Battle has been a decent backup RB (even though he was 3rd string), Piscatelli is a below average backup safety with above average ST play (4th safety). Palko was atrocious, but I wonder who had the idea stick with the Pitt QB: the coach from Pitt or anybody else? My guess is the former.
he used a 2nd rounder for his qb....
and most of the good players on the team….bowe, charles, hali, albert, carr, flowers, johnson were all there prevously
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
he's added plenty of pieces to the puzzle
asamoah, hudson, moeaki, mccluster, breaston, berry, lewis, arenas, jackson, bailey, succop.
now, just find a QB. i’m horrified by the support Orton is receiving from the Chiefs fan base.
you're using a 36th pick on mccluster as a good thing?
thats yuni for $2m esque
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by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
he's a piece to the puzzle
averaged about 4.8 yards a touch this year while being used in the wrong role. the potential is there for him to be an quality role player if used right.
i guess the pick could’ve been a better one, but i don’t expect every player to become a star. just as important to get role players on your team as it is pro bowlers. mccluster has played a role on the team and produced, i don’t expect much more out of second round picks.
i dunno…4.8 ypt isnt great when compared to other guys like him…and guys like mccluster…they’re luxuries. you dont pick them coming off of a 4-12 and 2-14 season when you have a ton of holes
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by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
look at some of the guys taken after him in the 2nd round....
gronk, tate, gerhart and a bunch of other guys that even at the time made more sense than a not quite a rb/not quite a receiver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NFL_Draft#Round_two
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by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, gronkowski would've been nice
doubt he’d look the same with mediocre chief QBs throwing him the ball though.
the way i look at is that every player the chiefs get is a luxury until a franchise QB is found. so guys that aren’t complete busts and can fill a role if that QB is found in the near future are a plus for me.
and while claussen hasnt done shit....
i liked him with that pick at the time as well
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by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
McCluster = bad pick
Clausen = legitimately fireable offense
Tate/Gerhart = meh
Cody/Gronk = the right picks. I wanted fat Cody or Spikes at the time.
But back to using a 2nd rounder on Cassel…not a bad plan. Wanted something better than Thigpen to keep things afloat, and the only head turner taken after that pick was Mike Wallace (3rd round).
I’ll admit some of the picks are bad, but I think you are severely misevaluating the success rates of draft picks—especially outside the first round. It is easy to criticize GMDM because we often say “he should do x.” So far, if you were Pioli, you would have taken Clausen. If only the rest of the team was sufficiently terrible, that would have gotten Andrew Luck, I guess.
i liked cody as well....
but there’s no way he fits anywhere in the 3-4 scheme.
the point was that there were real needs on the team…and a mccluster type wasnt one of them…especially not with a pick at the beginning of the 2nd round
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Dec 25, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I have no idea who Vermes is or what he does (soccer?), but there's got to be one out there who's better.
It really sucks that Pioli seems to actually be worse than Moore. I was very excited at the time of the last regime change. I still think Haley wasn’t the problem and liked the way he called a game.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, but I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There isn't one better in KC
Vermees is soccer—he’s the Sporting Kansas City GM—and he took SKC to the conference championships this year despite literally not having a home stadium to play in for the first 1/3 of the season. If Moore managed to pull that off, he’d be on every national baseball writer’s list for GM of the year.
Developing good young players as well
Sapong, Bunbury, etc
I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister
by Hanging Brainister on Dec 23, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
He also said Oswalt might come here
Sounds like we’re going for the vaunted ten man rotation/15 man pitching staff.
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Anyone who calls Jurrjens a staff ace
clearly does not understand baseball. Hence “ChiefsInsider”
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yea don't want to give up Cain at all.
Unless we sign Carlos Beltran back lol. That would be awesome. But seriously, who would play center for us? Dyson or Mitch? Any realistic free agents?
I am all for giving up Soria for Jurrjens and maybe even a B- prospect, just not our starting centerfielder.
would be a interesting rotation though. Sucks Duffy would probably get the boot.
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 22, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope not, we need someone better and younger than JJ
Take out Cain and JJ; then throw in Sanchez and Colon and demand Beachy
They wouldn't be that dumb
Downgrade at pitcher, increase payroll, reduce team control and except a prospect who has done absolutely nothing ever as a makeweight?
Edgar knows best.
I think GMDM loved "Moneyball"
So he’s making stupid moves and hoping to win so he will be glorified in Hollywood. Who plays him in the movie?
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 3:54 PM EST reply actions
Hugh Grant
Handsome, has name recognition, but limited ability and vaccuous.
Edgar knows best.
by kcbottom9th on Dec 22, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The Corpse of Gary Cooper.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking the love child of Slim Pickens and John Cazale
Slim Cazale, or as his friends call him,“Gary.”
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 22, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Per Rosenthal
Sources: #RedSox trying to get G. Gonzalez, Bailey in “monster” deal. #Rangers, #Rays also on Bailey. #Nationals team to beat on Gio. #MLB
So let me get this straight.
We would get another #3 type starter and lose our center fielder? Bourne would have to be coming back to us, right?
I am amazed teams are after Jurrjens now.
I would need him to throw a fastball at previous levels before trading for him.
Doubting Thomas, the patron saint of sabermetrics
I don't think teams are after Jurrjens
Everything I’ve read has the Braves pushing him on other teams and other teams saying “no thanks.”
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That makes sense
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Dec 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
This seems a tad crazy even for the ardent buzzcut
Doesn’t add up. However, the continuing drum beat of media rumor linking KC to Jurrjens is creating a French like inevitability.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 22, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Mind...
Blown.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 22, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Soria+Cain for Jurrjens?
Which timeframe is that supposed to help us in? Now when Soria+Cain is better than Jurrjens or later when Soria+Cain is better than Jurrjens?
by kcdc1 on Dec 22, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Doesn't make sense at all.
I don’t buy this one bit.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
me neither
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Dec 22, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
ya this is BS just like the one earlier
im still waiting for us to trade clint robinson to someone… he needs a chance somewhere
2012... the year the Royals finish above .500
by Somewhere Over Dwayne Bowe on Dec 23, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
Clint's not getting traded
Maybe as a throw in on a trade, but otherwise he will probably need to wait until we release him or don’t resign him.
I'm going to give Moore the benefit of the doubt that this actually won't happen
But if Moore trades Sora+Cain for Jurrjens, I’ll be really pissed off as that is monumentally stupid. A meh offseason would turn into complete sh*t.
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by Scott McKinney on Dec 23, 2011 7:47 AM EST up reply actions
And I don't think you'd even have anyone to argue against if this happened.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
by Warden11 on Dec 23, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At least he didn't get it
from the Royals this time.
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I'm still holding onto the possibility that someone in the Royals FO has been told to automatically disconnect any calls going to or coming from Oakland...
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
by Royals Medic on Dec 22, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Great deal for Billy
Way too high a price to pay for Gio.
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Beane is pretty damn good
and The Nats are stupid
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if both Peacock and Milone busted.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 22, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'd give both of my testicles for Teaford to be Peacockish.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nats are in a win-now mode, but I don't see why you make this deal
when EJax and a handful of other guys are still available.
To be fair, I'd likely rather have Gio than EJax.
But the difference isn’t that great to me, and at this cost I’m just flummoxed.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
4 of their top 10 prospects
Congratulations to OAK and WAS.
Really glad it wasn’t us.
The Nationals could be pretty good the next several years.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
If we got
Bourn back from this as well, it’d be an okay deal. Get another decent pitcher. I really hate the idea of trading LoCain away for Jurrjens though. If we somehow got Latos or a real ace instead I’d let Cain go, but I really don’t like this deal at all the way it’s set up. (obviously Latos is not a Brave, but I think you understand what I’m saying)
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by AlexGordonHRmagnet on Dec 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST reply actions
Bourn is a FA in a year, right?
So even that doesn’t really make much sense.
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I can't imagine that being the case, especially given how raw Starling is purported to be.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
OK, you seem to be much more grounded than that.
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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 22, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
MLB is reporting that Beltran is considering offers of $16 million, 2 years...
Would you rather have Beltran in RF for $16 million for two years or Francouer for $13.5 million? I think I’ll know your answers.
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
hmmmm....
it’s a really hard one. On one hand, you’ve got a guy who is gettin up there in age, but still really productive. On the other hand, NUDE BP!
"what is age anyway? what's old? what's young?" - Frank White
by AlexGordonHRmagnet on Dec 22, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I KNOW, right?
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
by setupunchtag on Dec 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Me too - I'm sticking with Francoeur.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 22, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
The best part is
Delhomme in a Carolina jersey and talking about the Super Bowl
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Competitive shitting. Take a closer look at the headline.
I think he finally knocked off Ilie Nastasie that year, the famous professional shitter who we all know was the basis for the character of dracula in the classic horror epic, Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Nothing shits with more ferocity than an aristocratic vampire.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 22, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
neither is very enticing
both have huge question marks, and could be deadweight. Then again, if they both perform well and stay healthy, they’re probably both about 1WAR more valuable than the $.
If you put a gun to my head, I’d take Frenchy cuz he’s cheaper and younger.
Beltran was a 4.4 WAR in B-R and a 4.7 in Fangraphs last year...
Frenchy was 2.7 WAR and 2.9 last year. That’s almost a 2 WAR difference for a price difference of $1.25 million. But the youth and health go to Francouer.
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
by setupunchtag on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Beltran will end up playing a lot of DH on an AL team methinks
Sort of that way that Guillen did back in ’09(?).
We should trade for Vance Worley.
Jeff Francouer+Yuni Betancourt+$500,000=Carlos Beltran
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
but if Betancourt came back for a second year after he develops more...
Beltran would be cheaper.
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
by setupunchtag on Dec 22, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Jack Marsh
is that you??
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I'll be the first to apologize to Allard Baird
I’m sorry, Allard. I guess the grass isn’t always browner on the other side.
Or maybe could we bring back Herk Robinson (is he still alive?)?
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*insert Michael Scott no no no noooooooo GIF*
by KCTiger on Dec 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How about John Turturro begging for his life in Miller's Crossing
“….open your heart….”
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Scutaro for Soria?
This trade doesn’t even make sense. The Red Sox are giving up an average infielder for a 25-year old All-Star closer with a light contract?
The Braves seem to be getting about even value. The Royals are getting raped. This makes absolutely no sense for the Royals and Braves. Why the need for the Red Sox in this trade? They’re probably laughing their ass off at this trade. If the Royals really want Jair Jurrjens, I think they could make a 2-team trade with the Braves to get it done. The Royals have plenty of players the Braves would want. Either that or at least make the Red Sox send the Royals somebody in return.
Better yet, why not make a big push for Gio Gonzalez? The Royals have plenty of pieces to make that happen. Soria + Duffy for Gonzalez and throw in some A-ball prospect. Or Wil Myers for Gonzalez. Something like that.
"Poker, poker, it's all skill. Start with the worst hand and go uphill" - Mike Matusow
When it comes to prospects?
Yes
"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.
Really hoping the Soria/Cain-Jurrjens deal is just a rumor
Royals would get hosed on that trade. I wouldn’t trade Soria for Jurrjens straight up, never mind Soria + Cain.
by DarthYoshi on Dec 22, 2011 6:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That twitter account isnt real
Ive seen him throwing things up and hoping they stick the past few weeks. Trying to act like the real Pio Deportes because they reported Pujols first. But his account started after the move happened.
by jack.nowland on Dec 22, 2011 6:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Amazing ...
… One twitter message can generate this much discussion without any verification.
I can't remember an off season with this many young pitchers being dealt.
Gonzales, Cahill, Latos. Who’s next?
The cost seems to higher than I think the Royals should pay for any SP this off season.
It would be cool if Maier got his shot
But thats it
Cap it, and watch the players association strike it. http://budtheclark.mlblogs.com/
We all love Mitch here
but I’m not sure if any of us thinks he can be a successful starting outfielder, let alone Centerfield.
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 22, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
OT:
anybody know if the KU game at 10pm is on non-cable TV? I don’t want to go watch it anywhere.
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I wouldn't trade Soria straight up for Jurrjens
He is a #3 starter at best and trending down. Hopefully DM isn’t really in on this
by Terry L. Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions
I'd definitely trade Soria for Jurrjens straight up.
They’re both probably paid at about 80% of their worth on average for the next three years, with effectively equal degrees of team control. The big difference is that Jurrjens pitches about 2.5x as many innings over the course of an average year.
Jurrjens may be a #3 starter, but we could use another one of those. Hell, if we had a rotation full of #3 starters, it would be pretty average – a clear improvement over last year. And yeah, he’s trending down. Welcome to pitchers past age 21.
by moregritplease on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
There's a a couple of factors you're ignoring here
Fundamentally, the Royals would be selling low on Soria and buying high on Jurrjens. Both such transactions should be avoided in this case. Soria in general should be able to fetch much more in trade than Jair Jurrjens. Buying high on Jurrjens in particular is a fool’s errand—yeah, he had a sub-3.00 ERA last year. But his K/9 rate regressed significantly, and his H/9 rate has yet to get down to his 2008-2009 levels, which suggests his 2011 ERA was somewhat luck-induced.
Also, Jurrjens is NOT a durable pitcher. He has pitched over 200 innings in a season only once in four MLB seasons, and it was 2009. Soria has had his injury problems as well, but not to that extent.
But hey, the guy’s a Brave. He’s gotta rock the mound.
In The AL
He's a lock
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
DMGM was just sayin this morning in 610
That he sees Cain as our CF for the foreseeable future! That sneaky lil bastard
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Dec 22, 2011 11:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If this happens, all my hope is gone for this team to ever compete.
I realize it’s bullshit (hopefully). But, the fact that it could be believable is cause for concern. Our current GM should be working as an assistant/scouting director. Just sayin.
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This reads like complete bullshit
1) The Red Sox essentially give up one year of Scutaro, a middling infielder, for three years of Soria at or below market-value.
2) The Royals give up six years of league-average bat/above-average glove Cain and three years of Soria for two years of arbitration Jurrjens.
3) The Braves receive seven years of two above-average players (Scutaro(1), Cain(6)) for two years of one above-average player who has regressed over the last few years.
That is so asinine that I honestly would switch team allegiances.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
ya this is BS no truth too it
2012... the year the Royals finish above .500
by Somewhere Over Dwayne Bowe on Dec 23, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
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