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12/23 Royals News Roundup: Yes, Yuni, There is a New Eco Novel

Joakim Soria trade rumors swirl around us like so many falling leaves, threatening to troll our Christmas weekend. For me, I've simply given up trying to guess what will happen. The Gio Gonzalez trade to Oakland removes one increasingly annoying rumor from the stream, but we've still got lots of time to spin about on matters related to Jair Jurrjens. Meanwhile, the reactions to the Yuni signing rolled in. Am I the only one that merely feels very tired at the end of this year?

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    Thought the Cubs made a nice haul for Marshall...

    4 or 5 years of Wood, and two other prospects. On the other hand, I like what Cincy is doing this off-season. Latos and Marshall will make them better next year. Cincy always looks good on paper to me, though, and then they always disappoint.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

    For the Reds, its entirely appropriate to

    Because…GO FOR IT.

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    I loved Clint Scoles's letter to Lee Judge from Pine Tar Press

    It has no anger or condescension. It’s just a reasonable explanation of why projections, and to a larger extent stats and sabermetrics are important, along with tools and intangibles. They should be taken seriously.

    You may know me as NYRoyal.

    by Scott McKinney on Dec 23, 2011 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

    how did you like the responses on Pine Tar Press?

    you have a reputation

    "Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

    by buddyball on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

    I loved that. Jim Fetterolf the stalker and Scott McKinney

    The Egotistical Blowhard

    I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

    by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 23, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

    Urban Planning Models

    are sort of a joke. They tend to be proposed based on the case study model. As it turns out, the problem with case studies is that there are too few of them, and so little control over other variables, that being able to make a generalized claim is difficult. I think the author was right — good governance (making the city work, and making citizens happy) is a big part of the equation. Some cities will make themselves “cool,” while others will try to find a more blue collar identity.

    by bas on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

    Agree that good governance is huge

    Kansas City in the last five years I believe has been working towards the “creative class” model. With the emergence of the crossroads district , Kauffman Performing Arts Center, downtown revitalization, and the cities desire to take control of the public schools.

    I think that the city wants to think that they are making their citizens happy but are missing the real issue is that the urban core wants and needs other things other then the arts and entertainment. If you take a look at the population outside of downtown-midtown KCMO is a very blue collar town that has expressed a need for better mass transit, grocery stores (food deserts), and improved security( more police officers)

    I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

    by Hanging Brainister on Dec 23, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

    Even if they wanted to do that

    good mass transit, education, and access to food is a real need to attract the “creative class.” In all of the places where it has worked, the “creative class” model requires mixed age and race residential living, good walking space, the ability to bus or bike most places in the city, lots of green space, and the development of good local business models. All of those are part of good city planning and strong governance to begin with.

    People have got the model wrong: you don’t just dump a bunch of money into night clubs and opera houses. Those will come if you offer people a good quality, affordable life in the city.

    by bas on Dec 23, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    as someone in the "urban development" profession

    the article strikes me as about right, although it smacks a little bit of the Lee Judge “we can’t ultimately know how things will turn out.” First thing is do no harm. Lots of failed Urban Planning ideas in the Urban Planning graveyard. More than once I’ve been in a meeting and someone has joked/whistled past the graveyard by speculating on whether or not a particular strategy will be viable in a dozen years. The economic development canard is probably milked a little too much to aid big bidness and otherwise wealthy interests who would likely do what they are doing anyway. Incentives help bridge the gap for development in some situations where it isn’t feasible for the private sector to step in (by paying for public infrastructure upgrades, repaving streets, sidewalks, replacing outdated water mains, etc…..), and helps revitalize areas. But overall lots of chicanery is cloaked under the guise of econ development. The best model might be parallel to community policing, where you try to deal with planning, development, and Gov incentives on a neighborhood by neighborhood, or even block by block basis. The business/development side should be just one facet of many interests considered, including livability, multi-modal stuff, safety, streetscape, etc….but yeah, planning might be just about as discredited as being an economist.

    by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

    Does planning have to be discredited though?

    Would it be more effective if it tried to do less?

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    Have you driven around a suburb/division where the street layout looks like a pile of dead worms?

    with only 2 outlets to main thoroughfares? discredit ye must. But I think you’ve struck the heart of the matter, i.e., do less, and or evaluate choices based on factors beyond how to milk every possible cent out of a square yard.

    by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 23, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    You Just Described

    Pacific Palisades to a T.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    Agreed

    Has any city become “cool” from top-down policies? Seems like all of those cultures arose organically, and if government did anything to help it, it was either purely by accident, or only well after the tipping point had already been reached.

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

    Access to a big University really helps

    They tend to invest in neighborhoods with an eye toward the long haul. They also are a magnet for creative people and industry money (now that schools have become the R&D sinkhole for so many private interests).

    by bas on Dec 23, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

    Universities cut both ways

    most “neighborhoods” around universities are rough because typically colleges aren’t connected and or concerned with broader community planning interests. The operate as an island. Tough to have a lot of owner occupied housing in these neighborhoods because of all the rentals/parties/trash/crime, etc… that comes with it. Percentage of owner occ housing is usually a pretty good indication of a “good” neighborhood.

    by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 23, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    Hopefully "Soria" will say no!

    “Soria’s contract is extremely attractive considering his overall production, with the closer carrying club options of $6 million, $8 million and $8.75 million over the next three seasons, respectively. If any agreement was to be reached there would be one potential fly in the ointment with the Red Sox representing one of six teams Soria can block a trade to. (The impetus for such a clause — which also includes the Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies, Rockies, and Braves — is usually viewed as an opportunity to renegotiate the current deal.)

    If Soria is offered a trade, it will be up to him. He can block the trade from leaving KC. Keep in mind, the “no-trade clause” on his contract with the Royals. I’m hoping “Soria” does not leave the Royals.

    by Themis on Dec 23, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

    Eco wrote this book about a virulent anti-Semite

    that was then reviewed by a Jew. And she didn’t like it? Shocking.

    talk to me, Johnny...

    by johnny4 on Dec 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

    I gave up on Eco after about 50 pages of "Foucalt's Pendulum"...

    that article made me feel a little better that I did.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

    It got a lot better after that first chapter

    With him hiding in the museum. Seriously.

    by maguro on Dec 23, 2011 12:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

    I gave up after 92 pages of Foucalt's Pendulum (I just looked)

    It was so wordy and dense and hard to follow and filled with topics I had no idea about like Kabbalah. After reading about him hiding in the musuem really wore me down. At one point he was hiding behind a plane in the musuem and I swear that Eco spent 3 whole pages just describing the detail of the plane itself. I started reading ’The Name of the Rose", and it was a much better read, still fairly dense, but readable. William was very likable and interesting. I got to busy to finish reading it though. Reading fail. I am glad to hear other people struggled with his books too.

    talk to me, Johnny...

    by johnny4 on Dec 23, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

    Book?

    How about a small article being shared! Wow! Forgot to rate the article “PG-13” Parents Strongly Cautioned.. “Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13” ..Awh, didn’t mean to scare you Maguro! I’m so sorry!

    by Themis on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

    "Sharing" Trade 99 % almost completed on Gio Gonzalez

    First needs to pass physical and once completed will be signed over to the Washington Nationals.

    by Themis on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

    I like Richard Florida a lot

    And I want to believe in his ideas, but I have trouble getting past thinking they are little more than fads and wishcasting.

    Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

    Andres Duany....same thing

    This American Life is usually a solid listen.

    by Nighthawk at the Diner on Dec 23, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    OT

    Got a lot of driving ahead of me next. Any good podcasts I should listen to? Preferably about culture, movies, books, or politics.

    Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

    Freakonomics?

    Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
    Rock Chalk Talk

    by Warden11 on Dec 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

    I downloaded that

    Haven’t listened to it yet.

    I’ve also listened to/will listen to a bunch of Slate podcasts, TED talks, and Rany’s show. I heard comedian Doug Benson has a funny movie review podcast.

    Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

    I know Doug...

    and he’s freaking hysterical. “They say pot keeps you from doing two things at once. Not true. The other day I was walking down the street, listening to my I-pod, smoking pot, and getting hit by a car. That’s four things”.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    that reminds me of a joke that i just made up this instant

    they say pot has two potentially dangerous side effects:

    the first is memory loss
    the second is i don’t remember

    batter nine you sucky

    by marbotty on Dec 23, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    that's very good...

    a couple of other aquaintences of mine have lines similar. You’re in good ‘parallel development’ company, tho.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    A few of my favorites

    WTF with Marc Maron is very funny, This American Life, just listened to a NPR All Things Considered Podcast where listeners voted their favorite albums of 2011. Heard some of my favorites as well as some new stuff

    I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

    by Hanging Brainister on Dec 23, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

    StarTalk with Neil DeGrasse Tyson

    Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
    Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095

    by averagegatsby on Dec 23, 2011 2:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

    I've been wanting to listen to StarTalk

    Always liked Neil Degrasse Tyson on Bill Maher

    I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

    by Hanging Brainister on Dec 23, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    Oh yea

    I love that guy

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

    Wait, wait, don't tell me

    "Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

    by buddyball on Dec 23, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

    London Gentleman?

    No, hold on. Blackbeard’s Delight?

    by BeauJackson on Dec 23, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    42

    "Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

    by buddyball on Dec 23, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    Isn't it a one time deal?

    And I agree with you

    "Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

    by buddyball on Dec 23, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    oh, maybe so

    didn’t read the article too closely

    batter nine you sucky

    by marbotty on Dec 23, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

    How Did This Get Made?

    So funny. It’s Paul Scheer (Andre from The League and co-star of Human Giant), Jason Mantzoukas (Rafi from The League and Dennis Feinstein the perfume magnate from Parks and Rec), and June Diane Raphael (Party Down). They talk about shitty movies, one per episode. I just listened to all of them this week on a trip to Kansas and back.

    Sporadically musing on the Royals at both Royals Review and Royalscentricity, pop culture at Inconsiderate Prick, SVU at Munch My Benson and on Twitter at Old Man Duggan

    by Old Man Duggan on Dec 24, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    This is a podcast?

    Can’t tell what you’re talking about.

    by hawkinscm87 on Dec 24, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions  

    To All!

    Have a Merry Christmas and stay safe!

    by Themis on Dec 23, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

    OT

    You can put one person in the Baseball HOF that is no longer currently on the ballot. This includes Joe Jackson and Pete Rose.

    Who do you put in?

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

    Other than Rose and Jackson, who should definitally be put in,

    maybe Curt Flood. Or Buck. Yeah, I know, you only asked for one.

    by MacGy on Dec 23, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    Bobby Grich

    by Jeff Parker on Dec 23, 2011 1:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

    Good call

    I was going to say Lou Whitaker, but Grich is probably more deserving

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    To Me, Trammell

    And Whitaker are inseparable.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    I'd take Tim McCarver out,

    or prevent his induction or whatever it is that he’s getting next year

    by Loose Seal on Dec 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

    Just re-read Bill James "Whatever Happened to the Hall of Fame"...

    so I’m biased, but turn of the century SS “Gorgeous George Davis” is one of them and James made a great case for Vern Stephens, but they’re pretty obscure. Luis Tiant should be in, I believe. Had a career WAR of 60, which is much better than Catfish Hunter and compares favorably with Bunning.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

    Rose, Jackson and...

    Ted Simmons.

    Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

    by cmkeller on Dec 23, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

    Damn straight, on Teddy.

    His defensive qualities are maligned, but he had a pretty decent CS rate (34%), so he wasn’t exactly horrible, and he was a beast with the bat from both sides. 50 career war. Bill Dickey’s was 54. There aren’t many/any C with higher WAR who are not in the HOF.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    Another good call

    Catchers seem to get screwed over in HOF voting

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    by RoyalsRetro on Dec 23, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

    HOF Voters Don't

    Understand positional adjustment.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

    Buck. I know he's not so popular on this blog, but he's my answer.

    "There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

    by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 23, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

    i just dont think he's really a hall worthy guy

    i think whatever it was they did for him was probably enough…shouldve done something before he died, but that cant be fixed now

    Fire Everyone

    by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    I give him credit for contribution to the game,

    knowing his play by itself isn’t enough.

    "There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

    by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 23, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

    he was a good player...did some scouting...some coaching...

    alot of work with the negro leagues, etc…i just dont particularly think he should be in the hall

    Fire Everyone

    by billybeingbilly on Dec 23, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

    Pete Rose

    Including every sordid, juicy detail. It’s part of the game’s history. Should be in there.

    by Tito42 on Dec 23, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    ?Was Pete Rose

    Name on the Hall of Fame at once and than removed because of his gambling or his name never made it to HOF?

    by Themis on Dec 26, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

    Yes

    I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

    by mitchfreakingmaier! on Dec 23, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    OT: What really happened with Aisha Khan?

    She hiding out from her husband? Hiding out from her arranged marriage husband? Her husband holding her hostage from being pretty? Thoughts?

    talk to me, Johnny...

    by johnny4 on Dec 23, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

    all of those.

    She’s a very good looking young woman; that can be parlayed into quite a bit more in the US than what was likely arranged for her. Who knows, though? I’m skeptical when any parent sounds as sure of their child’s happiness as they sounded. tho.

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

    After Reading Matt's

    Yu-Bet piece on FG, I’m pretty sure I entered began my second act farce period about a year after my wife died. I just didn’t know it.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

    I wonder if Jesus felt that way after the resurection?

    If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

    by setupunchtag on Dec 23, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

    Apparently. He Left

    In a hurry.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 23, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

    Will...

    Why don’t you post a motivational article every day like they do at Arrowhead Pride?

    I tried to point out that Chris and Joel Thorman do nothing more than try and make Chiefs fans feel better about themselves. Naturally, I was banned for that.

    Thanks for having writing talent and knowledge of the sport you cover!

    Go Royals, Chiefs and Blues!

    by theroyalblues on Dec 24, 2011 2:10 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

    But...

    Who you trying to impress with these fancy-f*** articles none of us want to read? We aren’t all Carl Crawford’s.

    Go Royals, Chiefs and Blues!

    by theroyalblues on Dec 24, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

    Fetterolf Working Overtime

    Written by jim fetterolf about 4 days ago.

    "And may I add, Jim, it is odd seeing you reference such nerdy stats as fWAR."

    Hardly odd, just a matter of using a common language for communication. I recognize that WAR’s fld is kind of bogus and bsr silly and wOBA and OBP and OPS overweight the value of walks and lack a speed factor for them, but we can at least discuss from a common framework beyond eyeballs. I use stats frequently and have calculated my own results, aSLG being most useful to me, total bases plus walks plus HBP plus net steals divided by PAs. When I first ran that, by hand on a calculator, the numbers I generated had Melky at .504, Gordon .509, Billy .508, Frenchy .512, Hoz .483, Jose Bautista .918, Prince Fielder .651. I also use runs scored and driven in, divided by PAs, RSD, within the team. When I first figured it, back when Billy was a walker, his RSD was .2035, Matt Treanor’s .2000. By the end of the year Billy was at .251. Alex Gordon for the year, was .273, Eric Hosmer was .275. Billy’s second half of the season was .307, one of the reasons I think his new swing and batting order position made him a more productive hitter, in spite of losing his batting eye and wildly hacking at pitches.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 26, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

    solid find

    these are his own created stats based on what he deems important i take it? maybe someone will weigh on how good these stats are.

    by BeauJackson on Dec 26, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    It's From The

    Comments on Royals Authority’s Anatomy Of A FA Signing linked above.

    I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

    by philofthenorth on Dec 26, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    I feel for them.

    I really do.

    Sporadically musing on the Royals at both Royals Review and Royalscentricity, pop culture at Inconsiderate Prick, SVU at Munch My Benson and on Twitter at Old Man Duggan

    by Old Man Duggan on Dec 27, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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