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Regardless of what actually happened with Frank White, the Royals really need someone like him in the booth.

This isn't so much an opinion one way or the other on the departure of Frank White; we only have spin to go on and it isn't even direct spin, at least not from the Royals' side of things. The only information we're getting from the Royals comes in the form of a broad 'White's reputation for privately badmouthing the Royals' comment from Mellinger. Who knows which side is right--more importantly, who knows what you would do in David Glass' shoes here. Maybe you'd fire him too, or maybe you'd apologize and give him a front office job, there's just not enough information to say.

What we can say, though, is that White represented a precious resource that the Royals ought to value. It's important to evaluate the Royals as a business as much as a baseball club because the better they perform in the business department, the more leverage they have to put a good team on the field.

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The better the Royals build their brand and manage their image, the better they recruit internationally (although that matters less now with the newly instituted spending cap), the easier it is to lure in free agents, the easier it is reel in fans and broaden the fan base, get bigger TV contracts, and make people outside of KC interested in watching a Royals game on Sunday Night baseball. It's all tied together.


Part of the reason we've got this Frank White issue so squarely under the microscope is because it's early December. We're in the baseball desert. We're John Glenn on the dark side of the moon. Out here in the void, we've got Greg Schaum talking about the 53rd best prospect (no disrespect to Schaum at all, love the website), we've got a Dominican showdown between Licey and Aguilas featuring Hector Carrasco or some such as your starter for game 1. We've got the Winter Meetings! where we refresh MLBTradeRumors every four and half minutes to find out if Moore was able to sign Mac Suzuki to a minor league deal.


And we've got the fact that the Royals chose not to renew Frank White's broadcasting contract (I love the "Royals Fire Frank White" headlines. Wouldn't that be the case if his contract wasn't finished? I guess "Royals Don't Offer Frank White a New Contract" doesn't inspire as much web traffic).


To a fan who has zero contact with the team and utterly no idea of what's being said in the hallways of Kauffman stadium or whether Nate from Gossip Girl is actually sleeping with Dan's girlfriend, I find the absence of White in the booth disappointing. It has me wondering who they are going to replace him with--I think this is really important. And I can't conjure a suitable answer off the top of my head (except for George Brett of course; more on this in a minute).


Here's the thing, going back to my comment on the Royals brand. Every team should have a guy like Frank White in the booth. It's been almost 27 years now since the Royals have had anything to cheer about. With a few exceptions, they haven't built much in the way of legacy since 1985. And legacy is important. For reasons that are probably better left to my psychologist to explain, it's important for me as a fan to have the weight of history behind me as I root for Danny Duffy to become a good starting pitcher. I want the question--does Duffy deserve to be wearing Royals blue?-- simmering in the back of my mind when I watch him pitch next season.


Frank White was an important tie, in my experience as a fan, to Royals history. Now, if he was an awful announcer, if he inspired a Fire-Joe-Morgan-esque website, then this connection wouldn't be worth the trouble. I never found White to be a bad color commentator. Not as good as Splitt, of course, but not bad. And I enjoyed the references to 1985, the stories from the Royals' glory days, the comparisons of our new players to our legends (that sounds a bit over the top, doesn't it? Just go with it).


Again, I'm not saying the Royals shouldn't have parted ways with Frank. Maybe there was something going on there that would have motivated me to do the same were I team president or whoever makes these decisions. But, I consider the role Frank played so important that I would have been willing to tolerate an awful lot before I made that decision. I think the Royals really need someone from the '85 team in the booth--more than they realize--and it seems to me the options are few.


What you want is for the Royals to portray themselves as a Kansas City institution, sort of like a Gates or Arthur Bryants or the Savoy or Harry's Bar and Tables. You want to project tradition and pride. If you think those things are overrated, surface-level cheese in and of themselves, then consider the impact on the brand, and how that might affect ticket sales, revenues from parphernalia, and the ability to attract talent.


Picture a Royals game with White in the booth. Or how about George Brett? Now picture a Royals game with Lefebvre and, I don't know, John Kruk. There's a really big difference isn't there?


Am I making too much of this?

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I'd rather have a good announcer

The Orioles are a terrible team, but I watched a lot of their games when Jon Miller was their announcer because he was good at it. Bring in some faces from the past as a 3rd man in the booth occasionally or let them do the pre/post game show (I thought Fitzmorris was good at this role), but for the people calling the game, I’d rather have people who do it well. This is what made Splitt so great. I hardly ever remember him talking about the old days, but I learned a ton from his broadcasts.

One other note, Mellinger specifically said that the Royals declined to speak publicly on the firing. I think that means that the information about White having a bad attitude either came from somewhere outside the organization or it came in a prior interview. I think it’s unfair to the Royals to say that the badmouthing of White is their response to White’s complaints.

by KSinDC on Dec 4, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

4 reasons I'm halfway serious that the Royals should put Lee Judge in the booth with Lefebvre...

1) As much as I don’t value his opinions in his columns, if you sift through that you find genuine nuggets about nuances of the game that other people don’t cover (catcher positioning at the plate, positioning within the outfield contributing to more outfield assist, etc.). I wish he would stick to using his insider status to give us more insight and less opinion.

2) Lefebvre and Judge could crack saber jokes all game long. It’d probably piss me off, but I’d still watch the actual broadcast more instead of muting it and turning on the radio. Sort of “Howard Stern in Private Parts” style ratings, if you will.

3) I don’t think I’ve ever heard Judge criticize the Royals FO or most of the players ever… mainly because he gets his access to the club and players by being their yes man. I imagine he would make the Royals FO very happy in the booth.

4) He wouldn’t write that rediculous column for the Star anymore. Thank God.

MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?

by Royals Medic on Dec 4, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Judge is critical of players all the time

One of his categories is mental errors.

He’s just critical for ridiculous reasons.

by KSinDC on Dec 4, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you are 0% kidding

Lee frickin Judge spews chunks everywhere. He is less than worthless.

Oh yeah, his cartoons suck also. Never funny, never clever.

by Bronzillo on Dec 6, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

With Frank out, what beloved mid-80’s Royals figures are left? Brett isn’t gonna do it.

I was born in 84 in the northeast, so I don’t have much of a tie to great Royals teams past, but I think former players have some unique perspectives to offer as color commentators and I was glad that our former player color commentator was a Royals great and was universally beloved around KC (except, apparently, at 1 Royals Way).

I don’t think they’ll be able to improve on Frank, but I hope I’m wrong because I know I’ll watch 100+ Royals games next season either way.

by kcdc1 on Dec 4, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think they'll improve on him either

Would love to see Brett in there, but I figure if he wanted to do it he’d have done it already.

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by jackie ballgame on Dec 4, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Brett staying in whatever capacity he's in now.

I heard he’s worked some with Alex Gordon on hitting technique.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

THE SEITZER EFFECT

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie Mays Aikens is available and in the KC area, from what I hear

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What Is Mayberry

Doing now?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 4, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Eating

I remember when I was in HS he would come into the grocery store I worked at, and he was absolutely enormous.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

he gave me hitting lessons in high school...

it didnt help…but that old man could still crush the ball in the cage

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Dec 5, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I doubt it, I would enjoy that.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 4, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

His online presence (including on Twitter/email communication, as he was the person

responding to the Email the Booth questions), strongly suggest to me that he “gets it”, but also has a good sense of which battles are most worth picking.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Dec 4, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they want a color analyst

Goldberg seems more like a PBP guy. The MO is usually an ex-player.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He is likeable.

But it would appear the the prerequisite is kissing ass. Bottom line – does he kiss enough front office ass?

by kansasjohn on Dec 5, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Goldberg?

I think Stone Cold Steve Austin would be a better fit… :)

by trauty on Dec 6, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's unfortunate but the next announcer will probably be Jeff Montgomery

He’s a lifelong Royal who has already filled in for White. He is also very active in the Royals Community programs. Probably the only retired Royal other then Brett that has local and national name recognition.

I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

by Hanging Brainister on Dec 4, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

I would way prefer David Cone

He’s a local guy, and he has plenty of name recognition.

by KSinDC on Dec 4, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he's working for the yanks...

and im pretty sure he married a new york woman…cant imagine her wanting to relocate almost full time to kansas city…he’s fucking spectacular on YES though

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by billybeingbilly on Dec 4, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Cone's tired of NY? Wouldn't mind coming home?

Agree that Cone would be a good choice.

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by jackie ballgame on Dec 4, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Please, God, no.

Montgomery may be the nicest former Royal, from what I’ve heard, but it is painful listening to him speak.

by kansasjohn on Dec 5, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree, I did not think of Cone

but I think it would be difficult to get him since he just came back to the Yankees and YES network. It’s a interesting idea considering Cone was rumoured to have left YES after 09 season due to being to critical of the Yankees organization

I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

by Hanging Brainister on Dec 4, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Thinking about potential replacements I thought about the Angels broadcast team

Victor Rojas son of Royals great Cookie Rojas and raised in Overland Park and Mark Gubicza one of the better pitchers in Royals history. This disheartning to think that the Royals are stuck with someone who would rather be in Minnesota and a potential outsider.

I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

by Hanging Brainister on Dec 4, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Goobie is a Socal guy

I think he would have a hard time leaving.

I think its Monty’s, and if not, probably Brian McRae.

Does anyone ever listen to Les Norman’s radio show? He seems like a surprisingly bright guy who has obviously worked hard at broadcasting (IIRC, he mentioned he interned at a radio station and took broadcasting classes). He doesn’t always seem to hold the typical jock conventional wisdom opinion and his show title “Breakin’ the Norm” sets that tone. He would be an interesting guy to consider – probably too interesting for the Royals.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 4, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Morgan is available

I'm very much interested in the process of pitching." -Brian Banister

by Hanging Brainister on Dec 4, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Joe and Captain Morgan would be the shit@

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 4, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Captain Morgan died of cirrhosis.

I suspect his play-by-play would rock, though.

by kansasjohn on Dec 5, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeff King or Bust!

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by Old Man Duggan on Dec 5, 2011 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

Banny!

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 5, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'd love it

I’m sure he’d be funny too

by kcdc1 on Dec 5, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I would die a happy, happy woman if this happened.

And more importantly, I would live as a happy, happy Royals fan next season if this happened.

by Gross(est) on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He would be so great.

I don’t think his playing career has been over for long enough though, and the Royals would never want a statistics guy in the booth, even if it was a former player. Those don’t mix.

by hawkinscm87 on Dec 9, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I do not really care who they choose. I loved Split, but I don’t have to have great TV broadcasters, which are few and far between anyway. I don’t need somebody to describe the action, and if they cannot provide good analysis, that’s ok, too.

I do, however, listen to a lot of games on the AM dial, and Bob Davis is a horrible excuse for a baseball play-by-play announcer. Has been since the day he started.

One other note on the TV broadcast: Jeff Montgomery is not very good (worse than Frank), but if they choose him, I will listen. If they choose Mike Sweeney, I will never ever listen. I despise Mike Sweeney.

by Rufus R. Jones on Dec 5, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

If they do choose Monty, I think he'll improve with time.

He hasn’t done color commentary much, and it’s only natural that he’ll get better with more practice, just like Splitt & White did, just like anyone would.

I’m still dream-casting for Banny, though.

by Gross(est) on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

To find out the details of what actually happened with Frank White situation, can’t we just have Jack ask his friend’s dad? or is it dad’s friend?

"You're like that guy who wrote that thing about remembering stuff!!"

- Crow T. Robot

by Crooow on Dec 5, 2011 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

If it is Jeff Montgomery, I will have a melt down.

Is there anyone more terrible to listen to for more than 2 minutes than that guy? He may be a nice guy, but please please please don’t let this happen when we are starting to get good.

by Clearly Ambiguous on Dec 6, 2011 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

It is too bad that he got fired

because he is a legend in KC, but he was soooooooooooo boring in the booth. He would constantly criticize the current 2B on how he didn’t turn that double play correctly. We get it, you were a good second baseman. He was dry when Ryan would try to inject humor into the broadcast and Frank didn’t get it. But if Joel gets in the booth I’ll mute it and listen on radio, damn the delay!!

by beltran42 on Dec 6, 2011 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

Brian McCrae would be my vote.

I always liked his on-air smartassness.

by Bronzillo on Dec 6, 2011 2:57 AM EST reply actions  

Juuuuust a bit too critical methinks.

"You're like that guy who wrote that thing about remembering stuff!!"

- Crow T. Robot

by Crooow on Dec 6, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I still say Joe Randa

Should at least be mentioned.

We should trade for Vance Worley.

by JKWard on Dec 6, 2011 7:11 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you!!!

I’ve been saying this for a couple years now. I always wanted Bob Davis gone and replaced with Randa, but now that the Royals have botched it once again, I say Randa to replace White.

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by royaldaddy on Dec 10, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he was signing autographs at Season Ticket holder seat selections....

This year. However, I just don’t see him doing it. I know Brian McRae used to stop in…I wonder if he wouldn’t want to pick things back up. I like Monty, just don’t think he’s cut out for full time color duty.

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by kd_in_kc on Dec 7, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

have you spoken to him?

he would be worse than frank

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by billybeingbilly on Dec 7, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackie Ballgame....good post....

Except John Glenn only flew twice….Once in Friendship 7 during the Mercury program and on STS-95 on Discovery. Never to the moon, let alone the dark side of it….

I understand analogies…they just have to make sense. You like watching Albert Pujols when he’s behind the plate…..

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by kd_in_kc on Dec 7, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Who was the astronaut stuck in the lunar capsule alone

went behind the moon, lost radio contact and spent what I remember reading was a terrifying period of time by himself in space. I always thought that was the reference Pink Floyd was making…

Spanish Club President, Park Hill High, 1991-92

by jackie ballgame on Dec 11, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok I got the astronaut right

It was John Glenn I meant to reference, as he was almost lost in space aboard Friendship 7, lost radio contact, etc. It just didn’t have anything to do with the moon…

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by jackie ballgame on Dec 11, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Every Command Module pilot from Apollo 11 to 17 (except 13) would have been alone on the dark side

Every mission that landed on the moon had one guy who stayed up in the command module while the other two went to the surface. And every time the command module goes on the opposite side of the moon (which is only dark during the full moon), all radio contact with earth would be lost until it re-emerged from the far side.

by KSinDC on Dec 12, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

"And Then That

Happened".

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bravo, sir!!!

Well said.

If you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down
-Gin Blossoms

by royaldaddy on Dec 10, 2011 2:51 AM EST reply actions  

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