Notes from Arizona
Overview - It was a great few days of baseball and sunshine. The conversation got a little nerdy at times, but at least my roommate did not snore too bad.
Day One
Game 1. Kansas City at Oakland
- I met with an Oakland staff official. Not much information that I can repeat, but they definitely plan on being competitive in the AL West this year.
- Wil(l) Myers is short. He is listed at 6'3" and is shorter than me (5'11"). I saw him later a minor league game and it was verified.
- Billy Butler is thinner, but my 4 year old could still beat him in a race to 1B.
Game 2. Flames vs Coyotes
- Live hockey is the greatest. The best hit of the game was when two teammates collided for the hit of the game.
Day Two
Tamales in the breakfast bar. Yea !!!
Game 1. Mariners at Cleveland
- Saw a panel of Chris Antonetti (General Manager and Executive Vice President of the Cleveland Indians ), Mike Chernoff (Director of Baseball Operations, Indians)and Joe Bohringer (Arizona Diamondbacks
- Professional Scout). It was a little tough to hear everything because the catering staff and public address systems were blasting out noise constantly.
- Chris Antonetti mentioned that the Indians were operating under a process a couple of times. Mr. Klaassen could barely keep himself contained with laughter.
- I completely over ate in our all you can eat seats.
- Highly touted prospect Michael Pineda of Seattle throws a rocket fastball with no break. He reminds me a lot of Farnsworth.
- First time I met Jonah Keri and I got him to sign for me a copy of his book.
- Johermyn Chavez of the Mariners has a cannon for an arm.
- Giant fans made up 90% of the fans. I usually don't worry about tickets in ST, but add the Giants to the list of teams to get tickets way ahead of time (Cubs and D-Backs).
- Lincecum vs Latos - Latos got rocked and Timmy was Timmy.
- Pablo Sandoval looks to have lost 40 lbs since the World Series. He is still heavier than Butler.
Back at hotel - Several of the Fangraphs crew started a draft around 6 that evening and didn't get it done by 2 that night. Klaassen has a pretty much all Royals prospect team. I took a beer and headed to bed.
Day 3
No tamales for breakfast. Dammit.
Game 1 - Rangers at White Sox
- Adam Dunn had a double and a triple. The triple was injury aided, but it seemed to be a ton of jogging for Adam.
- The Rangers had a MI of ex-Royals German and Blanco. Teahen was holding down 3B for the Sox.
- The White Sox played their starters the entire game and got smoked by the Rangers.
Evening meet and greet with Rick Hahn (Chicago White Sox Assistant GM), Tony Blengino (Seattle Mariners Assistant GM), and Joe Bohringer (Arizona Diamondbacks Professional Scout).
- Extremely informative.
- I asked about what it means if a player is projectable. Joe Bohringer said that it means one or more of the following.
- The player is thin and will put on some muscle as they get older
- The player has a hitch/problem in their mechanics and once the problem is corrected, the player should get better
- The players results are bad, but could be corrected (a pitcher could lower their walk rate).
- After hearing these, I improvable would be a better term to use in my opinion
- Joe was also in love with Eric Hosmer.
- Rick Hahn had a great sense of humor and dropped a few f-bombs throughout this panel.
Day 4
No tamales for breakfast. Double dammit.
Game 1 - Giants at Rangers
- I got a media pass to get into the game.
- Josh Boyd (Direct or of Pro Scouting) and Thad Levine (Assistant General Manager) of the Rangers met with us and answered some question. Levine mentioned that they have to paddle G.M. Jon Daniels to keep him inline every once and while
- Saw Aaron Rowland's pre-pitch warmup (not viewable for women, children and most men).
- Willie Wilson and Gaylord Perry were signing autographs for charity.
- Left the Rangers game to watch a Royals minor league scrimmage. Not many players I knew were playing. Eibner was playing, but looked lost at the plate.
Day 5
Tamales for breakfast. There was much rejoicing
Virus attacks computer at Phoenix airport. I decided it may be best to wait to post the "Bullpen Gospel" article I had ready to go. Commenced to writing review of the past week.
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has this been a consistent problem?
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It would not surprise me
He hit right before Perez in the A’s game and like like a midget compared to him. The 6’3" just seemed way out of wack.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Mar 16, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that one has to take heights and weights with some skepticism
but this seems totally out of whack. Makes me wonder what he tells his girlfriend….
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
what would be the benefit of listing him 5" taller?
Not calling your observation into question, just curious his listed height might be so much taller than his real height. If anything, I would think that it would be detrimental for a catcher to be that tall, so they might ‘shave off’ an inch or two. I guess all that is sort of out the window now that Wil(l) has already been moved to the OF, though…
by Yunielateral Movement on Mar 16, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Perez is actually 6'5" (not overly adjusted by the team) and Myers is done around 6'
Maybe I was in the sun too much and had a few too many drinks the two days I saw him. Probably someone else should verify.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Mar 16, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't have tamales either day I saw him.
That could easily explain it.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Mar 16, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It might have been the cocktails or tamales.
I saw him last year, and I thought he was a little over 6’, but you are right, 6’3" might be a stretch.
by royal_in_cincinnati on Mar 16, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
but that brings me to a question.
Weren’t there several comments from Royals Management saying they were taking him off catcher b/c of his height? If Sal Perez is 6’3" or whatever, how could they use that excuse?
by royal_in_cincinnati on Mar 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe it was more a euphamism than an excuse
As in “part of the reason is he’s too tall” instead of “all of the reason is he’s too sucky”.
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But he was a catcher that was ALMOST too tall to play the position.
And now we find out he’s just skinny?
I was a lot more cool with Myers moving from C...
…when I thought he was 6’3", 185; seemed like an awkward size for a catcher. 5’11’’ sounds like a perfect height for one. Makes me question the move more, now. Maybe they should have let him stay there for another year and see how he progressed defensively. I know; they have Perez in the pipeline and not so many COF’s, but still. As has been discussed, Myers bat a C is quite something; in RF it will be ‘competitive’ Anyone else?
"Today I did my good deed to be 'green'; I gathered up everything in my house that wasn't bio-degradable...and I threw it out." - Todd Jordan, Denver comic
by setupunchtag on Mar 16, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's raking already (for RF, let alone C)
does it mater that he’s not 6’3"?
I thought that height was more an issue if you’re trying to project future power potential, but if he’s already slugging, then does it matter?
Nick Swisher is handsome.
The thing is, he’s not 5’11. I’d bet a substantial amount he’s actually 6’1" plus.
by WURoyal on Mar 17, 2011 3:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It doesn't really matter
that he’s not 6’3". The point is that if he were 6’3" 185 lbs, he really wouldn’t fit the size profile of a catcher—it would literally be a stretch. And that was mentioned by the FO as part of the reason they felt more comfortable with moving him to RF. So, if in reality he’s more like 5’11" or 6’0 and still 185—more catcher-like—then I think it undermines their rationale from removing a premium bat from a premium position, maybe not a lot, but a little. And 290/360/480 from the C position is quite a bit more valuable than from RF.
"Today I did my good deed to be 'green'; I gathered up everything in my house that wasn't bio-degradable...and I threw it out." - Todd Jordan, Denver comic
by setupunchtag on Mar 17, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw him at Futures Night and he autographed a baseball for me.
He was sitting, but I didn’t get the feeling he was shorter than me or significantly taller. I’m roughly 6’ to 6’1. I think he’s at least 6 foot tall.
I love live hockey and get to watch it in Omaha
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"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
I wonder if Butler would be interested in coaching on sprinting form
It seems like he’s worked hard to get his weight down – it’s a shame he can’t be rewarded by being at least moderately fast. Without really even seeing him run, I can guess two things that are 90% likely to be wrong with his form (and I’m just an amateur): he’s not upright enough at “full” speed and his heels come up too high behind him after his stride.
(Yes, NYScott, adults actually can improve their sprinting form. These useless coaches continue to be employed by essentially every professional sprinter. I can’t for the life of me figure out why.)
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 16, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You're confusing Myers' actual height
with his PROJECTABLE height. Royals scouts are obviously relying (justifably given the BEST SYSTEM EVER) on the Process to give Wil(l) a very late growth spurt.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Mar 16, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Wil the growth the spurt come in the form of an extra L on his name?
by AxDxMx on Mar 16, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The extra "L" wil be his reward
for TRUSTING THE PROCESS. And yea, verily, when it comes to pass, let it be a lesson to us all. Praise Dayton. Amen.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Mar 16, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He Has A
Hitch in his posture they think can be corrected.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 16, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Myers is definitely taller than 5'11, I'm 5'10 and he's got a couple inches on me
I’d say 6 or 6’1 is closer to the truth but ya not 6’3
Checkout Royals minor league notes at www.14for77.blogspot.com

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