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Adjusting the Time Table for Mike Moustakas

Barring the unforeseen, it is now established that Mike Moustakas will not make the Opening Day roster. We'll never quite know how likely that might have been, because the situation never played out in such a way that it became an issue. To this distant observer, there were actually three scenarios. If Moustakas had come out and had a monster, no, monster  Spring Training, he might very well have made the roster to begin the season. If the young Californian had merely had a very good Spring Training, perhaps along the lines of what Hosmer actually did, he might have set himself up get called up in mid-April, after a courtesy trip to AAA to protect a service time year. But Moose didn't have a monster Spring Training, or even a good one. He hit just .227/.370/.364 in the friendly Arizona air, and that was that. Thus, scenario three: a presumably longer trip to Omaha.

It's a cliche to point out that no one cares about Spring Training stats, and if ever there was a team that definitively didn't, it would be the Royals. In this case, the stats happen to align with something the Royals already want to do, so they're useful. If you'd like to hear more of my speculation, I'll offer that the Royals likely have a "lock-up, arb-buyout" contract ready to offer Moustakas. The Evan Longoria contract is the gold standard for these kinds of deals, though for now the Royals can put that back into the filing cabinet.

So when will Moustakas make his debut in Kansas City? Obviously, Opening Day is ruled out. The next big day would be April 11th (I believe) which would have been the cutoff for not losing a full year of service time. This seems deeply unlikely now. Moustakas isn't working through an injury and he isn't a pitcher who might plausibly another week or two to stretch himself out. Other than merely gaming the system, the Royals don't have a narrative to demote Moustakas for ten days. This isn't a big problem however, because the Royals won't want to do this, and Moustakas hasn't fully earned it.

After early April, the next hinge moment comes in late May through early June. If the Royals keep Moustakas in the minors past that time, he won't be able to earn Super 2 status, which will accelerate his arbitration schedule. In the last few years, these rules have went from being obscure to relatively well-known, so I won't go on further. At the point at which Moustakas isn't going to make the Opening Day roster, it's almost a given that he won't be around until early June.

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And that's all well and good, but when it comes to the actual baseball reality here, it's fascinating to think about Moose's future. After destroying AA, Moustakas had a very interesting campaign at AAA Omaha. I don't do the scouting stuff (being one of the uninitiated, of course) but his stat line tells an interesting story. Posting a .293/.314/.564 line bespeaks a supremely talented guy bursting through and producing good results, despite a lack of polish. At Omaha, he was basically peak-level Jose Guillen at the plate, or, if you prefer, what Miguel Olivo looks like on a hot streak. A solid average, very good power, and more outs than an average player. Forget the walks if you want, just look at the out percentage. A .314 OBP means you're making too many outs. And when a guy is 22, it's perfectly acceptable to give him another two months in the minors.

The assumption, finally, is that Mike Moustakas will make his Major League debut in 2011. Frankly, barring injury, I can't see a scenario in which this doesn't happen. Even if he struggles, the team may decide to promote him anyway. Moustakas's performance in 2011 is almost irrelevant, impacting the level of hype more than anything else. He's an A Prospect and a Moore guy and top prospects simply don't spend much time at AAA these days. My prediction for a debut is Tuesday, June 21, the start of a home-stand against the Diamondbacks and Cubs.

Although, there's always that Wild Card of the Longoria Scenario, in some form, playing out. Everyone expected the Rays to play the service time game in 2008. Instead, Longoria made the Opening Day roster (advantage him) then signed an absurdly team-friendly deal approximately six hours later. I don't think that happens, but there's nothing like ending a blog post with a hypothetical and a dramatic shift, so...

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He'll Have To

Go destroy the PCL if he wants to be up by June. His underwhelming ST convinced me he needs to see some more high quality pitching before me makes the big leap. There’s no hurry to get him to KC, unless you think he’ll put asses in seats; even then, it does not help his development.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 18, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

well, you have to remember

this is the Royals. they simply won’t care either way if he still never walks. I dont see him cratering so bad that he still isn’t flashing some power, and any mild struggles will be chalked up as AAA-ites and a guy who is pressing/not pressing/whatever mumbo jumbo

by Freneau on Mar 18, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It Seems He's

Had more problems making contact at the MLB level, which is to be expected, I suppose, but contact skills were his saving grace. His low OBP was OK because he didn’t K much, or some version of this.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 18, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he makes good contact and continues to show power, he'll be fine

You don’t have to have great plate discipline and draw a lot of walks to be a good hitter. It certainly helps. It also helps to make good contact and hit for power, but you don’t have to have all three. Certainly not having one hurts the others. So we’ll see how he pans out. But I don’t think the Royals are going to wait for Moustakas to absolutely dominate the PCL before calling him up. They’ve already been wowed by him. If he performs merely “well” in AAA, he’ll be up by sometime in June (probably fairly early in the month). And I can’t say I’m against that. Although a good case can be made for waiting, even until the second half of April 2012.

But I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from his 22 official ST AB’s. Really, none at all. I don’t think anything that happens over 22 AB’s tells you anything meaningful or reliable. I mean, even forgetting that we’re talking about ST stats, 22 AB’s is such a tiny sample of data that it is next to meaningless.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 18, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

The only thing from ST stats that would worry me is if he had an inordinate amount of K’s. He has 7, which is a handful but it isn’t alarming.

I expect Moose to be promoted sometime around June like you mentioned.

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by RoyalJHWKR on Mar 18, 2011 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Consider too...

that you need to face the tougher competition to get better. I think they let him toil in AAA until he’s learned enough to move up. He’s not going to have to put up monster numbers. He could be hitting .245 and will still be called up. I am sure the service time issue weighs heavy on GMDM’s head.

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by JMGesling on Mar 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think it's a service time issue?

I’m tired of all this rank speculation about management. It’s totally a coincidence that Buster Posey and Carlos Santana both finally became “ready” on June 3 of last season. It’s just like women who are friends getting their “cycles aligned.”

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Or women needing to pee at the same time?

Why on earth would we even want to consider bringing him up until June? With this rotation, there’s no way we’re competative this year. I know that they’ve been scoring a ton of runs this spring, but come on…

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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Mar 18, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's like magic

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 18, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh....spring training stats mean nothing. There is absolutely nothing in the world that can be taken away from his ST numbers. Not one thing.

I’m glad he’s going down. I hope he doesn’t get called up until the June 3 or whatever that special date it….but anyone showing the slightest bit of concern based on ST numbers…..stop. Now.

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by EspeciallyK on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he meant besides Mitch

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by buddyball on Mar 18, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is this Mitch guy you keep refering too?

I seem to remember we had a Mitch last year….but he sucked.

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by Brian Harris on Mar 18, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

To take the pressure off,

Would it be better to bring up prospects after the beginning of the season? I remember Alex Gordon got a standing ovation at his very first major league at-bat. Now that’s pressure.

Bring them up in clumps – Moustakas, Hosmer, Montgomery, Duffy, whoever, all at once after the season starts. Then the media and fans can’t focus all the pressure on one player.

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by Karte on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I like this!

Bring a bunch of them up this year, then another bunch next year. That way there are a few that have played together. There is no reason that Moustakas, Hosmer, Monty, and Duffy can’t get a half a season in KC this season. Some players will take a step back right when they come up, some will fail, but if 2012 and 13 are going to be the years. They need to get some of them up now.

by royal_in_cincinnati on Mar 18, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Organizational Expectations

I think there is a real value to a baseball club setting the consistent expectations that 1) you spend a reasonable amount of time at every minor league level and 2) that within that constraint actual performance is awarded.

With Moose, I hope they keep him in Omaha until he has shown that he needs to be moved up to the next level.

by BlueEyes_Austin on Mar 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I Would Like

To see him destroy the PCL before he comes up, regardless of his ST performance. I don’t know if the team sees it that way.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

this is where I stand too

I don’t care about his ST performance either way. I wanted that to be the case at the end of last year. More time there, and then a mid June call up seems like it’d be ideal. There’s no rush. I would also like to see him improve upon his OBP at AAA.. Like NY said, he doesn’t have to take walks to be successful, but I really think that it’d ease the transition to the bigs. I think low OBP guys seem to have a more uphill battle when starting out against MLB pitchers.

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by AtTheWall on Mar 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if he destroys the PCL or not.

This season should be all about learning more plate discipline for him. I’d love to see him in June, but only if he’s ready.

by AxDxMx on Mar 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair to moustakas' stat line

it was really dragged down by a rough adjustment period. it’s all a small sample size, but his time in Omaha was remembered fondly because in his last 150 PA’s or so had a roughly ~.350 OBP with 11 HR’s.

by 9il on Mar 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope they take their sweet time

bringing him up. Let him settle and get comfortable in Omaha. Get him some more conditioning. The Royals have seen WAY too many prospects ruined because they are brought up too early or there are too many expectations put on them from the get go.
I hope I’m right in thinking the Royals are treating their prospects better and taking more care in the minors. Seasoning is vital to the future.

by maestrodave on Mar 18, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope he's not called up unless he's dominating.

No reason to call him up in June unless he’s posting a 1.000+ OPS. That’s what I want to see after 40+ games. Otherwise he should be called up around the All-Star break or later if he’s middling in the .900+ OPS area. If he’s posting a 1.000+ OPS after 40 games this season, then it’s definitely time to call him up.

by Hornets78 on Mar 19, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

this is not a knock on Moustakas,

but I have a funny feeling that Hosmer might beat him to KC. I know that is illogical – but I can’t shake that thought. I just think it’s possible that Hosmer is coming and coming fast, and it might be him, not Moose, that turns into the superstar first.

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by loyal2sdad on Mar 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the only way Hosmer beats Moose to KC is if Moose just flat out tanks in Omaha.

DM is dying to call Moose up. Moose would have to play his way out of a promotion at this point..he’s a lock to be in KC by June/July at the latest. Hosmer ain’t getting called up before that…..not with Butler and Kila in the way this season.

Hosmer might turn into the superstar first, or be the only one of the two that does, but Moose will debut first.

Killing time until time kills me

by EspeciallyK on Mar 20, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with EspeciallyK on call-up times

but I have had the feeling for a few months that Hosmer’s bat might be more “ready” than Moustakas’, and that was somewhat confirmed in discussion with a scout in Arizona (who does not work for the Royals).

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anonymous scout!!!

Matt, you have become what you beheld. ;)

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 20, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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