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Royals Review Interview With SB Nation Baseball Editor Rob Neyer

I'd always wanted to do a Q&A with Rob Neyer. Now that we're part of the same network, he can't really say no, can he? The Editor of SB Nation's MLB coverage, Neyer was kind enough to answer questions about being a Royals fan, the different stages of his career, and whether or not the Royals can win a World Series under Dayton Moore.

 

Can you talk a little bit about your connection to Kansas City? You’ve lived in Portland for awhile now, I believe. Do you consider yourself a West Coast guy? A transplanted Midwesterner?

Neyer: It took me a couple of years, but I certainly have grown to love the Pacific Northwest for any number of reasons. That said, I don't think of myself as an anything guy. Wherever I am, that's the place to be.

 

Rob, I’d like to start by asking you about your famous status as a Royals fan. Or is it still an ex-fan? You’ve been very candid about how the years of losing and incompetence beat you down. Do you still root for the Royals?


Neyer: I will always be a Royals fan, down deep. I just spent too many years living and dying with them, game in and game out for six months. I'm also constitutionally unable to switch allegiances. I didn't become a Mariners fan while living in Seattle, even though I had season tickets. I didn't become a (serious) Red Sox fan, even though I spent a season at Fenway Park. I haven't become an A's or Giants fan, even though I sort of made the Bay Area my second home for a couple of years (and still might wind up down there, at some point).

It's also true that I don't live and die with the Royals anymore. I've just been away for too many years, and seen too much front-office incompetence. The last time I really, really cared about them was 2003. I doubt if I'll ever get those feelings back, completely. But I would love to find out.

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On a scale of 1-10 how much meddling do you think took place during the Baird Era? Similarly, when you look back on those years when the Royals went super-cheap in the draft, was that Baird trying a bad version of Moneyball, a response to a direct imperative not to spend, or something in between?

Neyer: I don't think we'll ever know, unless Baird comes clean someday. Definitely above 5, though. He certainly made a great number of mistakes when evaluating major league players, but I'm sure he was compelled by ownership to make some deals he shouldn't have, and prevented from making some deals he should have.

 

We’ll never quite know what the details were, or even if they existed, but assuming that there was a Montero+Soria trade, of some shape, on the table with the Yankees, should the Royals have taken it?

Neyer: Well, the devil really is in the details. I don't think Montero for Soria straight up would have been worth doing, but Montero plus a couple of other prospects? Yeah, probably. I love Soria, but if the farm system's really as productive as it has to be, should it really be that hard to come up with someone who can protect a ninth-inning lead?

 


What did you think of the Greinke trade?

Neyer: I thought Dayton Moore did about as well as he could have.

 

With the farm system now drowning in hosannas Dayton Moore’s job is once again safe and his development bonafides are once again unquestioned. The big question: do you believe that the Royals can win a WS under Moore? How would you predict the next few years playing out?

Neyer: Hey, anything's possible. But I don't think the Royals will even reach the playoffs under Moore, if only because 1) there's a fair amount of strong competition in the American League Central, and 2) for the Royals to win 90 games, Moore will have to supplement the home-grown players with a few canny trades and free-agent signings, and he's done little to suggest that he's up to that chore.

 


It’s striking when you think back to the 1990s, or even the middle of the last decade. People talk about steroids, of course, but it was also a wilder, stupider industry: bad contracts everywhere, a number of teams pretty openly not valuing prospects or young players, weird trades, etc. Do you miss those days?

 

Neyer: Hmmm ... No, not really. I suppose stupidity makes my job easier, but I also prefer to live in a (relatively) rational world. And fortunately there are enough players and teams that there's almost always something to write about.


Within the baseball media, when you see Baseball Tonight using stats like WAR, UZR, FIP, do you think that sabermetrics has finally arrived or is it more tenuous than that?

Neyer:  Oh, it's certainly not tenuous. Not at all. As young baseball executives and TV producers and broadcasters -- men (mostly) who grew up reading Bill James and (maybe even) Rob Neyer -- move into positions of influence, modern statistics will only be more visible wherever people are talking about baseball. There's just no way we're going backwards (though the popular discussion will always be a little behind the really interesting work).

 

When you look back on your career, when did you realize that you were becoming both influential and well, famous?

Neyer: I'm not famous, and it's still hard for me to believe that I've been even the least bit influential. I will admit that I was gratified to read all the nice things people wrote about me, when I left ESPN.com and joined SB Nation. But none of these things are for me to judge. If I were a baseball player, maybe after my career I could look back and say, "Huh, I guess maybe I was pretty good." But in my line of work there aren't any (meaningful) numbers and I obviously can't be objective about whatever I've done. So I'll leave the judgment to others. (Also, I'm not done yet!)

 


Do you have another book project planned?

Neyer: Alas, no. I essentially had to give up writing books when I began blogging, three or four years ago. I'm just not willing to give my life completely over to writing, which these days is what it would take for me to write a book worth publishing.

 

It’s striking to me that in addition to being the saber-guy, you were one of the first web-only columnists as well as one of the first fan-bloggers, right when those were first becoming things. Do you see your new place at SB Nation as another emerging form/approach or is that too grandiose?

 

Neyer: Well, my current role does seem something like the logical culmination of what I began doing 15 years ago, and I certainly feel a spiritual kinship with the bloggers in our network. Which is part of the reason the move to SB Nation felt so natural to me.

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Great interview

“Alas, no. I essentially had to give up writing books when I began blogging, three or four years ago. "

Does it really take up that much time? JoPo seems to handle both well and I’m sorry Rob, but Joe puts forth a ton more content on his blog. And he writes a regular column for SI.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 25, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

well, I think the devil is in the details

“giving up my life for writing.” I love thinking about baseball, but when I hear about what the hours and days front office have to endure, I realize that even if I had the knowledge and skills (I don’t), I could never have done it, even at 22 with no family and tons of energy. There’s no shame in that.

Making watching baseball as fun as doing your taxes.
My Twitter feed.

by Matt Klaassen on Mar 25, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it is his full time job

I suppose he’s an editor now. I guess I just enjoyed his big book of lineups and would like to see more fun books like that.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 25, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Poz IS Poz

You don’t have the reputation for being an unbelievably prolix machine for nothing.

by Freneau on Mar 25, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prolix

Good one. Had to look that up.

by maguro on Mar 25, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

"prolix, prolix, nothing a pair of scissors can't fix"

Nick Cave, “We call upon the Author to Explain” . . . . references to Berryman, Bukowski, and Hemingway….good tune. Ostensibly about the writing process.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 25, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of you litearay types should gin up a battle of opposing city/state poets or writers

Minnesota/Corso, Detroit/Berryman, Chicago/Sandberg, Cleveland/D A Levy, etc..etc…etc… who would be the KC/MO/KS mostest famous writer? Twain or Limbaugh?

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 25, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hemingway

He was only briefly here. Probably Calvin Trillin?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Langston Hughes came from Lawrence, I think

Evan Thomas wrote the Bridge novels which were actually set in KC. James Ellroy lived in KC for a while. William Burroughs was born in St. Louis and lived in Lawrence for a long time. T.S. Eliot was originally from St. Louis.

I’d vote for Sinclair Lewis, who wrote “Babbitt” while living in KC, which is supposed to be the model for the city of Zenith. Either him or Brewer and Shipley, who wrote “One Toke over the Line.”

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 25, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "Winter's Bone" author

Is from the Ozarks.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Mar 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew Ellroy lived in KC for awhile, Hemingway wrote some killer stories for the Star

forgot about William Burroughs living in Lawrence. Didn’t know about Sinclair Lewis. Calvin Trillin vs Limbaugh covers a good swath of the political spectrum, eh? My fave Nebraska author is Bill Kloefkorn, he has done a good deal of prose, but his short stories and novellas are fantastic. Kind of in the vein of Jim Harrison or Wendell Berry. One of my English prof’s ended up publishing several books, Lee Martin. We’ve always got Willa Cather….and Larry the Cable Guy.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 25, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have to check out Bill Kloefkorn

Never heard of him before. Also, I’ve managed to live this long without ever reading anything by Willa Cather, and I really should read some of her books; from what I know about her, I think I’d like them.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 25, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laura Ingalls Wilder

lived the second half of her life in the Ozarks.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 25, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Antonia is a good Cather book......

Kloefkorn is good too….he lives about 5 blocks from my house, and I occasionally see him at the track playing the ponies. Its good, earthy, home spun, midwestern stuff. The man can turn a phrase. His novellas reveal his background as a poet. Something to keep you aware of your midwestern roots. : ) Did you catch the Spain v Czech Euro qualifier today? Is the Spain national team basically comprised of Barca players sans Messi?

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 25, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did see the game

Spain started out slow, with the Czechs playing on the defensive, but eventually wore them down and won 2-1. Spain basically is Barça without Messi; seven starters (Puyol, Piqué, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, and Pedro) are from Barça.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 26, 2011 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spain is fun to watch

US is hanging in v Argentina tonite. They were under the kosh big time first half. Bradley made some nice tactical changes at half, brought on some promising youngsters, Howard playing out of his ass. We’ll see what happens. Entertaining game so far.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 26, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the US team

All we lack is a goal-scorer. We can run the Europeans off the pitch because our guys are in much better physical shape. In America everyone (except baseball players) is expected to be in top physical condition. In Europe that’s not true, and you see guys like Ronaldinho just mailing in the second half because they’re tired after running five kilometers or so.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 27, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed....stereotype, but we seem to get buy on GRIT and guile

everyone wishes they had a maestro of the midfiled like Xavi, but the US could use a few skill guys to go along with the speed guys. Altidore has some promise. Dempsey is having career year at Fullham. The 18 yr old goal scorer last night showed some flashes. Mexico is going to be very good, should be interesting qualifying this time around in CONCACAF.

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 27, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't there two Concacaf spots?

The obnoxious knee-jerk anti-American commenters on the El País message board have been abusing Agudelo, saying he sold out Colombia for the Yankee dollar. Bullshit. He’s an American citizen who came up with his family when he was eight, and his soccer background is American. We didn’t poach him.

The Europeans often think that the US team is made up of immigrants, when nothing could be more wrong. I believe Agudelo is the only one born outside the US.

One thing is none of our guys have really made it big in Europe. Several play in the Premier League or the Bundesliga, but on mediocre teams like Aston Villa and Everton. Beasley, I think, plays for Rangers. Altidore didn’t cut it at Villarreal, and I don’t know where he is now.

Spain plays in Lithuania tonight. The Spanish media is all incensed because there’s no grass on the pitch and somebody’s going to break a leg. You’d think they’d have grass in Lithuania. It rains a lot there, and they can probably afford grass seed down at the Vilna Ace Hardware store. They’re not that poor.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 28, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

They think Carlos Bocanegra is an immigrant

Actually, he’s the son of a Mexican immigrant and an Anglo woman, born in the US.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 28, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And don't the Italians have a US born guy? Rossi?

We could use him. Other than goal keepers, you are absolutely right…no one has made a big splash in Europe. McBride was ok at Fullham, Dempsey is doing well, but not a league star by any means. Landy-cakes actually looked pretty good in his brief spell with Everton last year, too bad he doesn’t make permanent move somewhere. We’ll see if Agudelo ends up in Europe….kid is only 18. I think he’s cutting his teeth along side Thierry Henry for the NY Red Bulls. Maybe he’ll learn something…..Henry was always one of my faves. Smooth. Deadly finisher. Just for shits and giggles Juancho, who are some of your fave players, current or past? I like a lot of the dutch guys (Cruyff, of course, but current guys like Dirk Kuytt, just because he works so god damn hard, Sneijder, of course Messi, Xavi, Rooney, he whines a lot but when he’s in form, Drogba is an animal, I used to like Deco, not a big fan of Lampard or Terry, Gerrard is solid, I loved Cantona, etc….how about you?

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Johan Cruyff, Gary Lineker, and Messi

are my favorites all-time. The best player I ever saw was Ronaldinho in 2006(?), the year Barça won the Champions. Figo was really good but he turned traitor. I like Eto’o; he’s got several more good seasons left in him. Guardiola was a terrific player and the first of the Barça generation of great playmaking midfielders. My favorite British player is Peter Crouch, because he’s unique.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 29, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good choices all....

Crouch is a funny one….its cliche, but he’s got some nuanced feet for being a 7 foot bean pole. I wish I got into the game a little younger, I missed out on Figo, Guardiola, most of Zidane, and other 90s superstars. I liked Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink a lot for Chelsea & Middlesbrough. Have seen lots of old footage of Cruyff, Pele, Maradonna, etc…. Ronaldinho was awesome the year Barca won CL. Wasn’t that the year he had the cheeky free kick where he slipped the ball underneath the wall and into the net, anticipating everyone jumping?

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 29, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lithuania 1--Spain 3

Eurocup qualification, group stage. Spain’s 5-0-0. Of course, there are no other good teams in the group.

"America is a nation without a distinct criminal class, with the possible exception of Congress." --Mark Twain

by Juancho on Mar 30, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ice Nine, Baby

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 26, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vonnegut; I've Read

Nearly everything of his. “Mother Night” is my favorite book, and it was before I married a German.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 27, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've only read a couple of his, but like his work

he came and spoke at Univ of Nebraska back in the day, it was a fantastic speech/talk/does of humanity/common sense, etc….

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 29, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I stopped reading it.

And I must be the only one that thinks a book about Joe Paterno is a terrible idea. Posnanski has peaked, and he’s on his way back down.

by AxDxMx on Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth...

I know one guy who’s turned from blogging to writing books. His first book was essentially a collection of old blog posts and his second was largely new material after he stopped posting to his blog. He’s currently working on a third that will have NOTHING previously released on his website, because, well, he’s not writing on his site anymore.

I’m guessing there’s a real choice – produce things on a regular basis, or package it once a year.

Nick Swisher is handsome.

by ChrisCEIT on Mar 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sounds

tired and unfulfilled. You could almost intuit a sigh before every answer. Real good interview. I learned some stuff.

by LaFLamme on Mar 25, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Great interview.

Very informative. I would have to agree with LaFLamme, he seems almost defeated with some of his answers, although without vocal inflection it’s sometimes hard to know.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Mar 25, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed.....perhaps arrogance has crept in....I'm too lazy to look

but didn’t he refer to his own damn self in 3rd person? The flannel has been replaced by brooks brothers and a cashmere cravat

by Nighthawk at the Diner on Mar 25, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

to me...

he sounds like a man who’s lived a life caring about people who’s job he could do better. He’s exhausted from frustration.

by Bart41 on Mar 25, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Random useless knowledge...

hitting F11 is the same as hitting Z

Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
Opening Day is March 31st!!!

by averagegatsby on Mar 25, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

note to self:

must do efficiency study of F11 button vs. Z button striking.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a Mac, this is not true

F11 makes page essentially disappear, not the same as the “Z” function.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 25, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What other crazy buttons can I get you to try?

Ctrl + K + F5 (twice) will turn all the images pink.
Pressing Ctrl + Alt + Delete repeatedly does something that makes the screen go black.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start makes the Royals have infinite lives.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 25, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Alt+F4 a try

If I remember right, that causes $100 bills to pop out of your dvd-rom drive.

by AxDxMx on Mar 25, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm rich!

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 25, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I Just Found

That out today. It was driving me crazy.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 25, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Fine As

Long as I know how to turn it off.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 25, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

and the meth, no doubt.

by DaytonSucks on Mar 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I Have

Those FAA drug tests fooled.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 27, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

my brother in law

is learning to fly whirlybirds right now

Sign a new CBA NOW, you greedy bastards.

by kabrink on Mar 29, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean

It’s an undo function, like ctrl+z?

by LaFLamme on Mar 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

so in other words....

he’s a fair weather fan. Bounces around from team to team where he used to live at….sounds like my brother. I understand it’s hard to be a royals fan but come on.

by Chiefs190 on Mar 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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