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Reliever Tim Collins Reportedly Makes Opening Day Roster

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Tim Collins has possibly made the Royals Opening Day roster. Although all I've seen on this is Dave Gershman's tweet. (Gershman writes for Beyond the Boxscore, btw.) Though the move does make sense. It's a little surprising that Dutton hasn't confirmed as well.

An interesting player on the 2011 Royals! And soon! They said it couldn't happen.

Collins, acquired last season from Atlanta, has struck out 13.3 batters per nine in the minor leagues. The hurler has been on the radar of prospect mavens since his days in the Toronto system. He was recently rated the #15 Royals Prospect in the Royals Review rankings.  He is famous for being not tall. That, and striking people out. Strikeouts, little. You are up to speed.

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The 4th inning of games where we are losing 7-0

…just got a whole lot more fun.

Killing time until time kills me

by EspeciallyK on Mar 27, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

he may be small in stature

but he casts a long shadow.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 27, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

One 40 man spot is open now.

Fish has been thrown back.
That is Collins spot, so he makes the team.
I expect only players already on the 40 man make the team, so Coleman most likely does not make it.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Mar 27, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Not so fast

Blanco is out of options, so they would have to pass him through waivers anyway if he does not make the team (I assume some team with injuries or depth issues would take a shot on him). If that happens, another spot could open up.

Also, the Pucetas and Chavez spots on the 40-man are not that important, in my opinion…

by bas on Mar 27, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Crow does

The logic in that escapes me. There is some crap on the 40 man that nobody would miss.

by kcbottom9th on Mar 27, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crow is on the 40 man, he was on a major league deal and the Royals

have some financial considereations in starting his clock because he will not have as many arbitration years.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Mar 27, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does this mean they have given up on him as a starter?

Because he was not good at all last year.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Mar 27, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sure won't be improving his secondary pitches as a reliever

Considering all he had to work on, I think if they make him a reliever now, he’s a reliever to stay.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 28, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't follow

When his major league deal runs out he becomes just like any other club controlled player. We have him for 6 years regardless, and if he isn’t eligible for arbitration when that deal runs out then he won’t get it and the Royals can unilaterally set his salary (subject to the 20% cut rule), like they did with Hochevar last year.

It doesn’t really matter, but Coleman has been lights out since day one. Crow has been good for 12 innings against ST competition. I know who deserves a shot more…

by kcbottom9th on Mar 27, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right but if he is still on his deal then he doesn't get to file for arbitration.

Hochevar now will get four years of arbritration and I don’t think the Royals like that they paid most of his first contract to him for him to play in the minor leauges.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Mar 27, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey-oooo!!!!!!!

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 27, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 28, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is TWSS?

.......Just a beer drinking KC Chiefs & KC Royals fan.......

by Mas Cervezas on Mar 28, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's What She Said

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaaah

Gotcha

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by Mas Cervezas on Mar 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

TWSS

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Mar 28, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A THT study a few years ago found that shorter pitchers perform better on average than taller pitchers

Of course this is about selection bias, not some inherent benefit to being shorter. Shorter pitchers historically perform better than taller pitchers because if you’re a short pitcher, you have to be really good to make it to the majors at all. Of course that’s no guarantee for Collins, but it’s interesting.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 28, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

That's probably true.

I wonder if there is an easier repeatability in the pitcher’s mechanics as well if you don’t have a wingspan the size of an airplane?

by AxDxMx on Mar 28, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think its more about force and leverage

Tendons and bone are tendons and bone, no matter how tall you are. An extra 3-4 inches of arm length could add a lot of extra strain to the elbow and shoulder. Pitching is really about making the trade between power and strain. Its probably easier for shorter pitchers to find the balance between the two, if they can generate enough power, their strain “green” zone is probably a bit more forgiving.

I’d like to see a study to see if shorter pitchers are healthier long term than taller pitchers.

"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.

by RoyalPug on Mar 28, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it's the same reason that short, stocky hitters like Yogi Berra seems to perform better on average

…athletic guys with more “projectability” are going to get drafted more often for their tools and potentially than guys like Berra (and there are good reasons teams tend to do that). Witness the different career arcs of Jeff Francoeur and Matt Stairs.

This is what I think Scott is referring to by “selection bias.”

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 28, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

A 6’8" leftie will get a ton of chances to fail.

by BlueEyes_Austin on Mar 28, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

so short pitchers are like fat chicks?

cuz ya know, fat chicks have to work twice as hard for the lovin

Do these effectively hide my thunder?

by splitty on Mar 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which makes them twice as good in bed.

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by Scott McKinney on Mar 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lefty reliever who strikes a ton of guys out?

I can’t wait to trade Collins for Joey Gathright.

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 28, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

nah

lets trade a Cy Young winner for Lo Cain

by Freneau on Mar 28, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

We Gotz Cidez!

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by philofthenorth on Mar 28, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT

Would it make sense to use Will* Myers as the backup catcher, starting maybe 40 games a year there and 110 more in the outfield? That ought to increase the OPS from the catcher’s spot. He’d have to devote some minor-league time to this.

*I vote that if you have a name you go by the accepted spelling of that name. “Will” has two Ls. “Jeff” has two Fs. “Johnny” has the H in the correct place. “Sean” is not spelled “Chone.” And “J.C.” is not spelled Jayice.

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by Juancho on Mar 28, 2011 3:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Or maybe at least ten games at catcher a year? ;)

   NOT that that would help my fantasy team or anything. Just think it would help the Royals out alot, I swear.

by Ghost_of_Brien_Taylor on Mar 28, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Back when we had Buck, Olivo, and Pena

Our catcher spot in the batting order had something like 28 homers attributed to it. But HWSNBN is way better.

by AxDxMx on Mar 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

its all about the bat control

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on now, didn't you learn

It’s not the size that matters. It’s the speed of his balls.

Can we just call him Yoda of the relief corps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvs0thIlw6E

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by On_The_Warpath_In_DC on Mar 28, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

"Put me down!"

Just re-read that. One of my top 10. Liked the play on ‘own’ and ‘Owen’, too. Very clever.

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Mar 28, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see how we mess around with him!

I predict:

He pitches really well the first two weeks. So well, by May he is our “bridge guy.”

He then goes six days without pitching because we don’t have a lead in any games.

When he finally does get in, he has one bad game.

Ned panicks and says he will only use Collins in less stressful situations. Inexplicably, this means using him only against righties. When asked why, Yost says he believes lefties have to learn to get righties out.

Collins gets lit up in June.

Royals demote him in July.

Collins gets hurt in Omaha in August.

October – Royals DFA Tim Collins.

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 28, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I think you are still thinking of Trey

Yost will do the opposite: continue to put him in high leverage situations even when not performing (see: Wood, Blake; Hochevar, Luke). Then, he will either start in AAA next year or be named the de facto closer before ST begins.

by bas on Mar 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait for May press conference #16

“Collins isn’t a lefty specialist.”

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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 28, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't they throw a guy a bone with the photo?

Not nearly as weirdly intriguing other Royals player photos, but they couldn’t have used a upward camera angle to make him look a little larger/more imposing? And his head is looking slightly upwards because, even standing on the mound, he has to look ‘up’ to see the catcher’s signals.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 28, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

You can only expect so much from a 100x zoom lens.

They need all the power they could get to make the image only a 2/3 body shot.

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Mar 28, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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