Kansas City Royals Send Victor Marte to Cardinals in Minor Trade
by Freneau on Apr 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT
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PrintThe Royals have traded minor league relief pitcher Victor Marte to the Cardinals for the always fun "future considerations." An elaborate document is being produced by a team of Cardinals calligraphers as we speak, to be delivered by courier to Kansas City by the week's end. Oh, the Cardinals owe the Royals for this one, they owe them big. And at some moment in the future, when they are especially vulnerable, Kansas City is going to call this favor in, nineteenth century drama style. Your past will always come back to find you, Mr. Chiltern.
Marte has been terrible in his brief appearances at the Major League level, including a 9.76 ERA in 22 games last season. Though he was 3-0 somehow, which earned him a down ballot Cy Young vote from Murray Chass.
The curious thing is, however, that Marte posted some decent numbers in the advanced minors. Nothing spectacular, mind you, but definitely not anything that would suggest that he's going to be a flaming ball of garbage at the Major League level. It seemed a little curious that he didn't make the bullpen last year, for example.
Anyway, he's a (organizational) Cardinal now, showered in the love of the Best Fans in Baseball.
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it mysteriously began
and ended with Marte falling apart last summer
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at least the cardinals will have someone to get late inning outs
when they play pujols and the cubs next season.
by fightwookies on Apr 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Just in time for the end of the Pujols era
Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.
by KeepItCopacetic on Apr 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Funny stuff, but...
He also made sabermetric people look like complete hypocrites. Everybody attributed that book to him, and he was constantly writing on his blog that he was not the author. Of course, that’s what happened when Joe Morgan kept talking about Moneyball and saying Billy Beane wrote it. So yeah, sabermetric people looked like complete assholes. I think Rob Neyer was one of them, but I can’t be sure.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
I thought only one person (Lincoln Mitchell) attributed the book to him. That hardly counts as everybody. Further, the dude that attributed the book to him was a college professor of international politics (not exactly a leading expert in sabermetrics).
As usual, Chass found a rather weak straw-man and made it the central point of his continued hate toward people who are smarter than him (read: almost everybody). After this argument, he then decides to write an article about how Musial is a racist based on the word of mouth from one old guy.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
I'm pretty sure there were more than that.
But now I cannot seem to find the blog entry. I guess he doesn’t show more than 3 blog entries on his website at a time.
Let’s be clear (reminds me of Obama)… I’m not defending Murray Chass. He’s a fool. But he had his moment of glory, which was really big for him because he’s never going to have one again.
The article is still up there...
http://www.murraychass.com/?p=3106
His ‘moment of glory’ was meaningless.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
Yes, it was.
I’m just trying to say he had a moment where he could criticize people for non-substantive things. Like people criticizing that book without even reading it. Which…was wrong to do.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
I just don’t think he really had a moment where he could criticize people. One person making a mistake doesn’t implicate a movement (which is what he was trying to criticize).
If he had just criticized the one guy, fine. However, he tried to make it a point about how sabermetricans are bad. That was intellectually dishonest and proves that he is a mental midget.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
Oh, and here's the article written by Lincoln
Obviously, it has been corrected, cause, y’know…people who aren’t Chass will admit when they aren’t lying douches.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
damnit I was just going to post something similar... :)
well played, sir.
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
by Royals Medic on Apr 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we send him to the Cardinals too?
Hating Zack Greinke irrationally since 2010.
by royaldaddy on Apr 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Weird
I didn’t know he was still in the organization, which probably says more about me than him, but still….
Ok, I admit it
I even googled it and still don’t get the “Mr Chiltern” thing
Google Book Search
Basically comes up with a bunch of references to Mr. Chiltern from books written in the late 19th Century or so. Although I’m still not quite sure of the reference, except that most references seem to indicate that Mr. Chiltern is the late Mr. Chiltern.
Robert Chiltern from An Ideal Husband, by Oscar Wilde
He did some insider trading type stuff, got rich, then got semi-blackmailed for it.
Was also thinking of making a Doll’s House reference, to like any character.
My Oscar Wilde reference
refers to Burrow Giles v. Sarony, an old copyright case based on a photograph of Oscar Wilde and whether or not the Copyright Act also protected photographs even though it was not a writing. Everyone can make their own conclusions about what the outcome was.
Anyway, that’s what I think of when I hear about Oscar Wilde now. Just a stupid case, not like his writing or anything like that.
when I think of the Glass family and Dayton Moore
For some reason the first 19th century period piece I think of is The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman.
"Hey, maybe he really does like everyone. But if you like everyone, do you actually like anyone?" - big matt
thanks for reminding me
I think I read that thing 5 or 6 times in high school…for sure during my creative writing class. Dang…
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd have gotten
the Ibsen reference. Mr. Chiltern wooshed right over my head. I only know Oscar Wilde in a more biographical sense, not from his works, which I’ve not even glanced at but know well enough to get the Zach Galifianakis “Importance of Being Ernest” joke.
Hating life as a Royals fan 365 days a year at Royalscentricity
by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm new here
is there a way to block certain writers from showing up when I’m signed in?
no, that's been talked about with the tech people for years
but it’s not a feature and probably won’t be anytime soon
luckily it’s easy just to ignore the old fashioned way
I find a strategically placed horizontal finger works well
But I admit it rather old school
I once had hope...now I have Moore.
This is most definitely me…
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by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
If I'd posted more recently, I would have assumed it was me
You may know me as NYRoyal.
by Scott McKinney on Apr 14, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I operate under the assumption
that everyone hates everything I do. In life.
Hating life as a Royals fan 365 days a year at Royalscentricity
by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
My Sense Of
Impending doom pretty much covers it all.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
How much discussion can really be had regarding Victor Marte?
by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 13, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I about shit myself when I saw how much discussion there was
on a Victor Marte trade piece. Are you kidding me? He’s like the Pied Piper.
Hating Zack Greinke irrationally since 2010.
the finger
Guess I’ll practice the old school finger. Maybe for posts I might find particularly grating I’ll use a special digit.
Will is an awesome writer.
Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.
by KeepItCopacetic on Apr 13, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Knock Yourself Out
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It's better if you don't struggle
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by sfeldkamp on Apr 14, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Albert. Pujols.
And probably that Colby kid too
for when I'm too lazy to come here, http://twitter.com/AtTheWall
Middle Reliever FTW!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If you amass enough future considerations
You can trade them in for stuffed toys.
I once had hope...now I have Moore.
unfortunately
they only have Fred Bird stuffed toys in stock…gotta get those best fans in baseball brainwashed good and early.
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8
by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
An admission that we would win the NL Central this year
even though we probably won’t win the AL Central. And said admission must be done on an ESPN special, Lebron style.
Hating Zack Greinke irrationally since 2010.
that would be awesome
Mr. LaRussa, what do you have to say?
looks down at written statement
“Our division is garbage and the Royals… the Royals… would have won it if given the chance.
by Freneau on Apr 14, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slightly OT:
Regarding recent Röyals history: The Brewers seem to be tiring of Yuni and are looking for a shortstop. Meanwhile, Zack threw a 25-pitch practice game. As of now we won that trade. Yuni = Negative WAR.
Yo confío en Jack.
I find this hard to believe
what, with the plus hands and plus hands
I once had hope...now I have Moore.
And the minus everything else
Yo confío en Jack.
Will Marte's absence reduce the buffet budget for the Royals' system?
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