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Kansas City Royals Send Victor Marte to Cardinals in Minor Trade

The Royals have traded minor league relief pitcher Victor Marte to the Cardinals for the always fun "future considerations." An elaborate document is being produced by a team of Cardinals calligraphers as we speak, to be delivered by courier to Kansas City by the week's end. Oh, the Cardinals owe the Royals for this one, they owe them big. And at some moment in the future, when they are especially vulnerable, Kansas City is going to call this favor in, nineteenth century drama style. Your past will always come back to find you, Mr. Chiltern.

Marte has been terrible in his brief appearances at the Major League level, including a 9.76 ERA in 22 games last season. Though he was 3-0 somehow, which earned him a down ballot Cy Young vote from Murray Chass.

Star-divide

The curious thing is, however, that Marte posted some decent numbers in the advanced minors. Nothing spectacular, mind you, but definitely not anything that would suggest that he's going to be a flaming ball of garbage at the Major League level. It seemed a little curious that he didn't make the bullpen last year, for example. 

Anyway, he's a (organizational) Cardinal now, showered in the love of the Best Fans in Baseball.

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it mysteriously began

and ended with Marte falling apart last summer

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by BHWick on Apr 13, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

PUJOLS!

Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
Opening Day is March 31st!!!

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Just in time for the end of the Pujols era

Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.

by KeepItCopacetic on Apr 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dynamite
Though he was 3-0 somehow, which earned him a down ballot Cy Young vote from Murray Chass.

by PopeSoria on Apr 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I googled it.

Just to make sure that wasn’t true.

Nick Swisher is handsome.

by ChrisCEIT on Apr 13, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny stuff, but...

He also made sabermetric people look like complete hypocrites. Everybody attributed that book to him, and he was constantly writing on his blog that he was not the author. Of course, that’s what happened when Joe Morgan kept talking about Moneyball and saying Billy Beane wrote it. So yeah, sabermetric people looked like complete assholes. I think Rob Neyer was one of them, but I can’t be sure.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me

He’s written enough stupid and nonsensical things.

by Freneau on Apr 13, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

But he had his day. Once.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong...

I thought only one person (Lincoln Mitchell) attributed the book to him. That hardly counts as everybody. Further, the dude that attributed the book to him was a college professor of international politics (not exactly a leading expert in sabermetrics).

As usual, Chass found a rather weak straw-man and made it the central point of his continued hate toward people who are smarter than him (read: almost everybody). After this argument, he then decides to write an article about how Musial is a racist based on the word of mouth from one old guy.

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 13, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure there were more than that.

But now I cannot seem to find the blog entry. I guess he doesn’t show more than 3 blog entries on his website at a time.

Let’s be clear (reminds me of Obama)… I’m not defending Murray Chass. He’s a fool. But he had his moment of glory, which was really big for him because he’s never going to have one again.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The article is still up there...

http://www.murraychass.com/?p=3106

His ‘moment of glory’ was meaningless.

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 13, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was.

I’m just trying to say he had a moment where he could criticize people for non-substantive things. Like people criticizing that book without even reading it. Which…was wrong to do.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

I just don’t think he really had a moment where he could criticize people. One person making a mistake doesn’t implicate a movement (which is what he was trying to criticize).

If he had just criticized the one guy, fine. However, he tried to make it a point about how sabermetricans are bad. That was intellectually dishonest and proves that he is a mental midget.

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 13, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and here's the article written by Lincoln

http://thefastertimes.com/baseballbythenumbers/2011/03/17/for-a-fan-sometimes-babip-is-just-babip-sabrmetrics-and-its-backlash/

Obviously, it has been corrected, cause, y’know…people who aren’t Chass will admit when they aren’t lying douches.

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 13, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

will admit they are wrong when they…

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 13, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit I was just going to post something similar... :)

well played, sir.

MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?

by Royals Medic on Apr 13, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we send him to the Cardinals too?

Hating Zack Greinke irrationally since 2010.

by royaldaddy on Apr 13, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Weird

I didn’t know he was still in the organization, which probably says more about me than him, but still….

by Jeff Parker on Apr 13, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, I admit it

I even googled it and still don’t get the “Mr Chiltern” thing

by sterlingice on Apr 13, 2011 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

If it's from Will...

I’m guessing it’s literary. Do a Google Book search.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google Book Search

Basically comes up with a bunch of references to Mr. Chiltern from books written in the late 19th Century or so. Although I’m still not quite sure of the reference, except that most references seem to indicate that Mr. Chiltern is the late Mr. Chiltern.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Chiltern from An Ideal Husband, by Oscar Wilde

He did some insider trading type stuff, got rich, then got semi-blackmailed for it.

Was also thinking of making a Doll’s House reference, to like any character.

by Freneau on Apr 13, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Oscar Wilde reference

refers to Burrow Giles v. Sarony, an old copyright case based on a photograph of Oscar Wilde and whether or not the Copyright Act also protected photographs even though it was not a writing. Everyone can make their own conclusions about what the outcome was.

Anyway, that’s what I think of when I hear about Oscar Wilde now. Just a stupid case, not like his writing or anything like that.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

when I think of the Glass family and Dayton Moore

For some reason the first 19th century period piece I think of is The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman.

"Hey, maybe he really does like everyone. But if you like everyone, do you actually like anyone?" - big matt

by Crooow on Apr 13, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for reminding me

I think I read that thing 5 or 6 times in high school…for sure during my creative writing class. Dang…

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have gotten

the Ibsen reference. Mr. Chiltern wooshed right over my head. I only know Oscar Wilde in a more biographical sense, not from his works, which I’ve not even glanced at but know well enough to get the Zach Galifianakis “Importance of Being Ernest” joke.

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by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm new here

is there a way to block certain writers from showing up when I’m signed in?

by Yaddadamean on Apr 13, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

no, that's been talked about with the tech people for years

but it’s not a feature and probably won’t be anytime soon

luckily it’s easy just to ignore the old fashioned way

by Freneau on Apr 13, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus...
It’s my 1st Amendment right to be as obscene as I want, anywhere I want, at any time.

by hawkinscm87 on Apr 13, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find a strategically placed horizontal finger works well

But I admit it rather old school

I once had hope...now I have Moore.

by Dubya on Apr 13, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is most definitely me…

Hating life as a Royals fan 365 days a year at Royalscentricity

by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I operate under the assumption

that everyone hates everything I do. In life.

Hating life as a Royals fan 365 days a year at Royalscentricity

by Old Man Duggan on Apr 14, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Sense Of

Impending doom pretty much covers it all.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

the finger

Guess I’ll practice the old school finger. Maybe for posts I might find particularly grating I’ll use a special digit.

by Yaddadamean on Apr 13, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Knock Yourself Out

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's better if you don't struggle

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by sfeldkamp on Apr 14, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Albert. Pujols.

And probably that Colby kid too

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by AtTheWall on Apr 13, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Middle Reliever FTW!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 14, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you amass enough future considerations

You can trade them in for stuffed toys.

I once had hope...now I have Moore.

by Dubya on Apr 13, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately

they only have Fred Bird stuffed toys in stock…gotta get those best fans in baseball brainwashed good and early.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

An admission that we would win the NL Central this year

even though we probably won’t win the AL Central. And said admission must be done on an ESPN special, Lebron style.

Hating Zack Greinke irrationally since 2010.

by royaldaddy on Apr 14, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

that would be awesome

Mr. LaRussa, what do you have to say?

looks down at written statement

“Our division is garbage and the Royals… the Royals… would have won it if given the chance.

by Freneau on Apr 14, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Slightly OT:

Regarding recent Röyals history: The Brewers seem to be tiring of Yuni and are looking for a shortstop. Meanwhile, Zack threw a 25-pitch practice game. As of now we won that trade. Yuni = Negative WAR.

Yo confío en Jack.

by Juancho on Apr 14, 2011 4:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I find this hard to believe

what, with the plus hands and plus hands

I once had hope...now I have Moore.

by Dubya on Apr 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

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