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Kansas City Royals Best Mariners Again, Go For Sweep Tomorrow

SURPRISE AZ - FEBRUARY 23:  Sean O'Sullivan #37 of the Kansas City Royals poses for the album cover of his rap-metal album, Toe the Rubber.  (Photo by Jonathan Ferrey/Getty Images)

10-4. The Royals are 10-4. 10-4. Wow. With today's win the pressure remains on Cleveland, the other juggernaut challenging the Royals for AL Central supremacy. The Royals go for the Grass Creek sweep tomorrow. Special.

All series we've wondered, "are the Royals starters pitching well, or is this just what every Mariner game is like?"

Well, today Sean O`Sullivan pitched five shutout innings, scattering six hits and two walks, mixing in four strikeouts. O`Sullivan has been so bad this season that his ERA is still 5.00. The Mariners had some things going on in the middle and bottom of the order, but Ichiro & Figgins today went 0-10.

Because today is a day of the week ending in the word "day", Tim Collins pitched an inning, adding three more strikeouts to his season tally. His rookie cohort, Aaron Crow, somewhat pointlessly worked the ninth inning. If we can't have a lower-quality reliever pitch the ninth in a 7-0 game, it'll never happen. But alas. I loved Yost's use of the 'pen a week into the season, now I wonder if he's riding Crow & Collins too hard.

Alex Gordon & Mike Aviles had nice games today, though Kila couldn't complete the triumvirate of anti-Moore players contributing. There's always tomorrow. Your move, Cleveland.

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I agree on the bullpen comments

Need to be smarter with the young guns

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by ratherfantastic on Apr 16, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't blame him for being scared

them Kentucky boys can pack the heat

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done.

Royalsretro comes through again.

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by timlacy on Apr 16, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little early to worry. But if he continues to struggle by June....

maybe we should start looking at transitioning him into a starter, and award the Closer’s position to Jeffress.

But I’d be more in favor of a Closer by committee from the time that Soria becomes no longer trustworthy, and letting Ned just choose the hot arm between Collins, Crow, Jeffress, and Soria.

I have about equal confidence in those 4 right now to come in and get a save.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just from June on in 2011. Name the next starter before the 2012 season, if not Soria.

I must admit, Jeffress appears to be our future starter. He’s just got that intimidation factor with his heat and when he commands the other couple of pitches he’s got consistently, there’s no way we shouldn’t take a hard look at replacing Soria with Jeffress.

Can Soria make the transition to starter? Or can we get good value for him in a trade? Those are really my two biggest questions.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Above was mis-placed. It was supposed to be respons to....
I’m Officially Worried

About Soria.

from Phil below

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soria is not

a starter. He was gettin’ shoulder trouble from pitching multi-inning saves at a time last year.

by dubPeacock on Apr 16, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he would also get 4 days off before he pitched again instead of pitching 4-5 times a week

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by averagegatsby on Apr 16, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that's because he's been conditioned for 1 inning appearances

to maximize his effectiveness for one inning of work. If they made him a starter, they would gradually work him up in terms of his pitch count with each appearance in spring, until he’s comfortable going 5 or 6 innings. And then, presto, you have yourself a starter.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't just wave a magic wand and expect him to go from closer to

starter in the middle of the season. lol.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

totally disagree on use of Collins & Crow

one inning 3-4x/week is not too much … maybe too many people these days are too young to remember the Orioles when they had THE best rotation in baseball (as good as the current Phillies starters) … Palmer, Cuellar, McNally, Dobson … omg, THE best ever … and all 20 game winners in 71

every 4 days, and they all went 7-8 routinely, almost every time … often complete games …

our pen guys toss 20 or so pithces … what, you think arms will fall off?

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just did

get outta my head, it’s crowded … wait, never mind … enjoy yourself, just hope ya got a flashlight :-)

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, we've been on the same page since the day I came on over at AP.

It’s scary.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's because we're both very slow readers ...

… you can turn the page anytime now, K-Dude ;-)

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love for a return to those days...

but the problem is that Collins hasn’t come of age as a pitcher in that environment

there’s just no comparison to teh state of a guy’s arm as a stretched out starter than a current era reliever

one last thing, there’s a bit of a selection/survivor’s bias here. we remember the guys who survived that era, not the hundreds of guys who burned out their arms and disapeared from memory

by Freneau on Apr 16, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed your move Cleveland

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm Officially Worried

About Soria.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

You usually don’t pitch your best reliever/closer in the 9th in a 7-0 game. Save him for the next high pressure situation.

by rich04 on Apr 16, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Has Velocity

But has lost his command. See Meche, Gil.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 16, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its early

Its a really small sample size. He has had 8 appearances and only had 1 maybe 2 bad appearances. Maybe he is still working on something new? Who knows, I just think its a little early to be getting worked up about what he has done.

by rich04 on Apr 16, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Why?"

Did you see the game on Friday? That’s why I’m worried. He was too busy being cold to throw a damn strike…that and he got HOSED on a should of been backward K. Regardless, he isn’t consistent right now and has a tendency to give up runs. Not good qualities in a closer.

I wonder what we could get in hock…

by SCKSChief on Apr 17, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, be happy!!!

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 16, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

at which point Royals fan will stop worrying about the bullpen.

They are pitching great and as long as they are. roll with them.

Do the Royals actually have a veteran in pen?

Teixeira ?

by Peterman700 on Apr 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm not worried about the pen

I have a ton of confidence in Tim, Crow, Jeffress, and Soria
I am concerned with the way Yost is using them.
A 7-0 game is perfect for Wood/Teixera/ or Adcock to have an inning.

We many need those guys tomorrow.

Stuck following the Royals since 1976.

by A. B. Aird on Apr 16, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think Wood/Tex/Adcock

can be used in garbage time when we are way behind in a game

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by topekaroyal on Apr 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

sacrificial lambs so to speak

I could have been a Rhodes Scholar, except for my grades.
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by topekaroyal on Apr 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche

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by topekaroyal on Apr 16, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cmon...

Crow started warming up when the score was 5-0 in the eighth with Jeffress starting his second inning by letting the first two batters reach. One batter away from being not garbage time at all. It was the right move to warm him up. And once he’s warm I dont have a problem with letting him pitch.

by billexgordler on Apr 16, 2011 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's fair

but 5-0 isn’t much better

by Freneau on Apr 16, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember too ...

these guys are kids, rookies … what better time to build confidence in a young gun than have him face this current M’s team … esp while up 5 or 7 runs

here ya go, kid … yer in the bigs now, get used to it

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sometimes it irks me how managers baby the pitchers arms. 2 innings is considered

a big chunk for a reliever and letting a pitcher complete a 9 inning game, is now a rarity. Just to illusatrate how much the game has changed….

In 1879, for the Cincinnati Reds, a 5’9" 175lb right hander, by the name of Will White, started 75 games and threw all 9 innings of 75 starts, (75 complete games in one season) en route to a 43-31 record for the season in which he pitched 680 innings, and he was a 24 yo white kid with round spectacles.

I’m not concerned about an extra inning here and there for these young athletes.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

K-Dude, I just ... JUST ... posted about the same damn thing (above)

in re: the 1971 Orioles 4-man starting roation

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, what did you expect from us old farts? :)

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey!

who are you calling … oh wait …

never mind :-)

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure these players you are referring to didn't throw 90+ MPH heat

I could throw a ball 200 times a day every day and my arm wouldn’t fall off either. I’d also be pitching at about 50 MPH.

by AxDxMx on Apr 17, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

How much the game has changed

If you’re trying to illustrate that the game has changed a lot since 1879, I think your example works well

If you’re trying to illustrate that managers misuse their pitchers today, I don’t think it works — precisely because the game has changed so much since 1879.

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 16, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the game has indeed changed, but arms are pretty much what they were 130 years ago

the mechanics and physics of throwing are the same, too … point being: toss 20-30 pitches every day or so and the arm stays attached, no worries

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm pretty sure that the pitches thrown today were not thrown 130 years ago

Since the mechanics (and the stresses) differ by pitch, it’s not fair to say the mechanics are the same as 130 years ago.

More importantly, hitters are much better now than they were 130 years ago, so the pitchers are forced to work harder on each pitch to avoid quality contact. It’s much harder on the body to throw 90 pitches at around 95% of max output than 90 pitches at 75%, even if the mechanics and the physics were the same today as 130 years ago.

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 16, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention countless other things

mound height, eligible race of athlete, weights and conditioning, # of pitches seen per at bat, etc

I would never have expected someone to back up their macho bullpen usage argument with stats from the 1870’s, even on the official facebook page. This comment was impressive in its own special way.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Macho bullpen usage argument? WTF?

I just thought it was amazing stat that some of the guys around here might enjoy.

But I’ll be sure to be careful not to post anything interesting when your around from now on.

Wouldn’t want you to enjoy the conversation.

I’m 52 years old, and a little bit past worrying about macho. I’m just trying to enjoy the experience of being a Royals fan right now….which is supposed to be fun at Royals Review and usually is…

Until a person like you comes along, and starts insulting people.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Forgive me for not commenting on "countless other things"

I’m a busy man.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Thanks ups.

Money has changed everything. A good arm these days is such a valuable commodity to the owner’s and the team and the teams revenues that they want to milk them for as long as possible, and not wear them out.

Like I said. The game has changed.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I ask why you seem to find my opinions so infuriating that

you feel a need to personally insult me? I’m just not about arguing with anyone around here. You seem hell bent on antagonizing me. Why?

I know one thing for sure man. You wouldn’t be doing this if you were sitting next to me at a bar.

So why in here?

Sometimes it’s best to take a personal inventory, and then try to conduct ourselves like adults.

And that means thinking before you speak, thinking before you act, and thinking before you react.

They’re just comments man, and they’re not meant to provoke arguments, or insult people with opposite points of view. Just comments….

now repeat after me…..their just comments…..take a deep breath now…..their just comments…..

There ya go……feel better now?

Good boy.

Now move along.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya ya, I know...they're vs. their.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was criticizing your asinine opinion that today's pitchers are "babied"

because their managers refuse to run them into the ground. Critical comment, yes, but also “just a comment.”

I made no comment about your age, but thanks for the short bio. Also, thanks for calling me a good boy and insinuating that I would be afraid of you in a bar setting.

by MkeRoyal on Apr 16, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

K only "argues" with me ...

as for his opinion regarding pitchers’ arms being babied, I agree with him …

and do feel free to argue and make your point, but tossing around terms like “asinine” is more of a personal put-down and not something that’s thought of as “cool”

seeya round, Mike

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there

forgive my partial blindness … I’m older than K-Dude

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

You may enjoy this man's stuff too. Here ya go.

Make sure you read all of it.

http://www.sbnation.com/users/TheK-man/blog

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're reading more into it than what I said, which was really just this...

I’m not concerned about an extra inning here and there for these young athletes.

No more no less. I just think it’s funny that a lot of young fans get all nervous nellie over a guy pitching a few innings of relief, like he won’t be able to recover.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now let's try that with the quote

inside the box.

I’m not concerned about an extra inning here and there for these young athletes.

There we go. lol.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he ever go see Dr. Andrews' great great grandfather?

I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.

by stram#1 on Apr 16, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, nobody should worry.

All those rookies are having a blast getting a chance to possibly throw everyday.

Just wish we could have Coleman up because i think he would be in the discussion with Collins,Crow, and Jeffress. Kind of impatient for him to get here.

by vic1124 on Apr 16, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crow in the 9th

seems to have passed his audition for temporary closer. Using him there suggests that Soria’s ineffectiveness may be more than mechanical or bad luck.

by Jim Fetterolf on Apr 16, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps,

or it could suggest Collins and Jeffress as set-up men for Crow in the current situation, the new 8th and 9th inning trinity, with Tex, Adcock, and Wood as the middle guys. Crow should be able to come back easily tomorrow, Jeffress after two innings and Collins after a lot of pitches fanning the side not as likely. The difference among the three seems to be pitch count per inning so far.

by Jim Fetterolf on Apr 16, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyday the Royals slap us in the face by having the one we look down on before the game play well

by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Apr 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Gordon

So, Gordon is swinging more this year, right? I guess the results have been good, but what is the consensus about this around here? Are we worried that the results from his new found aggressiveness are not sustainable?

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Apr 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

you hear everything

when he has a bad game, everyone lays out with “he looks the same”

last night, Harold Reynolds has a segment on MLBN talking about how his swing is much different. schilling has said the same thing on BBTN

by Freneau on Apr 16, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until Mitch Williams

Says it it means nothing

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 16, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams is crazy...

I don’t actually don’t mind him. He says the same percentage of smart/dumb things as anyone else, and at least he’s fun to listen to/has a personality.

Half of these guys are dead fishes

by Freneau on Apr 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And He Was

The original pitcher with his hair on fire, and a charter member of the Braindead Heavers Club. I just heard him on Rome’s radio show Friday. He seemed pretty stupid to me, but yes, no more than most jocks.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 16, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The current stats from baseball-reference.com

show Gordon as having a .588 BAbip vs. lefties. His career BAbip vs. lefties is .274. There should be a drop-off against left-handed pitchers.

by kansasjohn on Apr 16, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ERAs

SOS down to 5.00
Collins down to 2.25
Jeffress down to 1.35
Crow still at 0.00

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by topekaroyal on Apr 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Will be honest

You’re just questioning Yost’s bullpen decisions because he didn’t pitch Adcock, who would have probably given up a run and made the final 7-1, just as you predicted. Yost’s insistence on using the young guns prevented you from being right, that’s all it is..

by rockchalk on Apr 16, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Yost

Quite a lot. I’m not afraid to say so, either. Our love is strong.

by LaFLamme on Apr 16, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Not sure how to take this. It seems to me that if you have a reliever for garbage time that you took in the Rule 5, you probably ought to use him when you can. The Royals have had a lot of close games. This was not close. the shutout was not important. You Adcock and you like it.

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

If you’re not going to use the guy during garbage time, then why take him at all.

"I DARE you to make less sense."

by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's very interesting to see how the BP has changed with new blood

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

On the Collins watch

seemed like he was inside to RHB/outside to LHB like usual, but he got the guys he had to get even if the ump was screwing him over

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by BHWick on Apr 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

So, Jeffress and Collins are out for tomorrow

And Crow is behind a little bit. Which means your relievers for tomorrow are:

Texeira
Adcock
Soria(?)
Crow in a pinch

by JKWard on Apr 16, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like it

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We got Wood.

That’s more than a lot of teams can say.

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by Juancho on Apr 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

pitches thrown in the series

Collins: 41
Jeffress: 40
Crow: 16
Wood: 19
Soria: 28

If you add Wednesday, then you add Texeira 11, Collins 16 (now 57), and Jeffress 29 (now 69)

Jeffress threw 35 pitches in his first 3 outings (over 2 2/3 innings) and 69 in his last 2 (over 4 innings)

so if Wood can go, Crow can go

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by BHWick on Apr 16, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Adcock Needs To

Work on that back door approach.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Apr 16, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aren't you...

…tired yet of the dick jokes?

"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.

by timlacy on Apr 16, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things that...

I felt have past their time, but people are still entertained by them.

1. Adcock Puns
2. References to Shaun Smith grabbing peoples nuts on Arrowheadpride.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 17, 2011 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Halftime in the Bernabeu

R. Madrid 1—Barça 1. Not a very good match. Madrid playing back in its own half, looking for the fast break, and Barça unable to open up their defense. Ref missed a penalty against Casillas. Messi had a nice play. Madrid had a couple of corners that might have gone in but for Valdés. Ronaldo’s done nothing.

Yo confío en Jack.

by Juancho on Apr 16, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Red card in the box for Albiol, and it looks like Barca's streak will continue.

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 16, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like the celebration after scoring after a penalty kick

It’s like making a free throw. Just walk back down the field.

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 16, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland in a pickle

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cleveland up 6-3 in the seventh.

Hope they choke under the pressure.

- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …

by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 16, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

8-3 now, guess we will have to share

- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …

by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 16, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad they Are playing Baltimore

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Remember last week

when people could not stop talking about that team?

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides the AL Central, all the other divisions are leds by one of the favorites

ALE – Yankees
ALW – Rangers
NLE – Phillies
NLC – Reds
NLW – Rockies

- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …

by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked at that

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Should we be so fortunate

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

down to the wire? what, for last place?

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhm.

Photobucket


Hehehehe.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

me? LOL ... you're kidding! surely you jest!

I know, I can already hear you saying …

“… and DON’T call me Shirley!”

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hehehe.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

why

is this Royals Corner?

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was kidding

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by upamtn on Apr 16, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Lookout Landing on suicide watch?

Better go check.

- .-. ..- … – / – …. . / .—. .-. - .. . … …

by Jeff Zimmerman on Apr 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Penalty by Albiol on Villa

Red-card and misses the Cup final.

Yo confío en Jack.

by Juancho on Apr 16, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Christian Ronaldo

I pretty much hate that guy, and I’m a big Messi fan, but I much prefer Ronaldo’s understated reaction to making his PK over Messi’s celebration

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 16, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

sucks that the invisible sniper got Aviles on that play

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by BHWick on Apr 16, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like the pitcher...

hits him in the head with the ball. I didn’t see the actual play…what did happen?

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by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't agree.

He’s definitely falling back and to the left. That implies someone throwing a ball at him…probably from the grassy knoll.

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by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

*huge grin*

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

sometimes 2 things

for when I'm too lazy to come here, http://twitter.com/AtTheWall

by AtTheWall on Apr 16, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true too.

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by TheK-man on Apr 16, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

bench marks

from the Stats_MLB twitter

The #Royals defeated the #Mariners 7-0 today, making them 10-4 this year – their best start thru 14 games since they were 11-3 in 2003.

Granted, the 2003 Royals took 20 games to lose their 4th (getting to 16-3 before losing their 4th in Toronto)

And the 2003 Royals through 30 were 20-9 (much better than 18-11)

thanks Stats

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by BHWick on Apr 16, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

CLE moved

looks like that series next week could actually make the last 5 minutes of Sportscenter

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

its

VCU-Butler all over again. Fuck, I need to make reservations for the Plaza parade.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty Baker sees nothing wrong with the use of Collins and Crow

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by averagegatsby on Apr 16, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

What the fuck

will Dayton do if this club is in contention this fall? I worry he will panic and trade legit prospects for some douchbag, hack mercenary who has grit and presence.

Please tell me Im off.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Nobody knows

and it still seems unlikely. However, it would be fun to find out.

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm actually not that worried

the prospects are “his guys” now

we’re also still two months from this being an issue

by Freneau on Apr 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love how this season is going

but I fear that we’re getting well ahead of ourselves.

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by Warden11 on Apr 16, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly feel like this team contending into August

will somehow set us back in the long run

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by averagegatsby on Apr 16, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucy ... 'splain!

Love,

Ricky

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't actually think this team has a chance to contend..

And if we get into August in contention then start to struggle, then I fear the knee jerk moves that are made out of desperation.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense ...

I don’t think we’ll contend all year, either … then too, would be nice to see the team over-achieve for a change, instead of under-achieve as per usual

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a HUGE coup getting Zorn though

The team 100% depends on Cassel, and there aren’t many guys who are better QB coaches than Zorn.

I honestly think the team will be better too, and I think its also possible that the division could be won at 8-8.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit...

wrong conversation.

but yeah, I don’t want anybody to be rushed.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, don't worry.

You shouldn’t feel compelled to be bothered by little things like topics.

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by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a little worried now that you mention it

He could be suffering from taco bell-instigated memory lapses. Maybe $11 is just too much…

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by loyal2theroyals on Apr 17, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya, gats ... I think Yost is doing a terrific job, and Clint Hurdle with our batters is working ... oh wait, wrong year

I meant to say that I would have love DeBerg as QB coach, but Zorn could be just as effective … guess we shall see, but I highly doubt can’t even imagine 8-8 winning anything

then too, there was the NFL Worst West in 2010 so yeah …

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried either...

but I also expect him to make a bad trade using good prospects for a “hack mercenary.” Though, I think he’ll only do it once. We can survive that.

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by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

are any of the Giles still in baseball?

I think Marcus and Brian retired by now, right?

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by BHWick on Apr 16, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa....

…Let’s cross this bridge to hell when we get to it, not now.

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by timlacy on Apr 16, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im a selfish bastard

I want to see Montgomery in KC now. I see that one move keeping KC in contention a while longer. I dont like gaming service time w/pitchers. Their health is too fragile.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Rotation

Hochevar
Francis
Chen
Montgomery
Duffy

Me thinks replacing Davies and SOS (todays fluke aside) would make this rotaion, dare I say, legitimate. More interesting, anyway.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you know anyone following Omaha?

I bet Duffy, like Monty and probably Mooooose, is working on something in particular, like Crow was last year in A, that gets him rocked for awhile. that is what the minors are for, to perfect the curve or the change, to take an outside pitch the opposite way. Haven’t seen anything from the prospects writers to support that, yet. Otherwise, we can just start chanting “Bust!” and go back to being last year’s Royals’ fans. Prospects suck, GMDM is a failure, David Glass is a lousy owner. 18-11.

by Jim Fetterolf on Apr 16, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is to doubt that he's working on something...

otherwise, he would have been doing it last year. Unless he was taking last year just to get back in shape from taking that time off.

I don’t really see Duffy being anything other than a back-of-the-order starter or a good reliever. However, that’s not a bad thing.

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by dejackso on Apr 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like this

Along with Hos and moos brought up. Get rid of kila maier Davis Tejada via trade

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by Mas Cervezas on Apr 16, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nobody is trading for Mitch Maier or Kyle Davies

That’s just not going to happen.

I need to go take a Davies and wipe my Elarton. Excuse me.

by royaldaddy on Apr 16, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

but it sure is nice watching Brewers fans blow up over how crappy Yuni is.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

We gave our pain away. You are welcome Brew-Crew.

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by clintox100 on Apr 17, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless

it would be much more left-handed than our current rotation

by bas on Apr 16, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think we can say that right now.

But I am hoping by June, he proves that he is.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rays beat the Twins in bottom of the 9th

Gardenhire puts entire team in purgatory

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by topekaroyal on Apr 16, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd best news all day!

1. Royals win
2. My arch-rival in fantasy has Felix Hernandez
3. Twins lose

Stuck following the Royals since 1976.

by A. B. Aird on Apr 16, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the game today

When you put up SOS against King Felix and win 7-0, there is some kind of effing magic going on!

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by KHAZAD on Apr 16, 2011 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm so confused by this parallel universe that we're living in right now

wtf…is this real life?

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by loyal2theroyals on Apr 16, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball.....

can be a funny game sometimes.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny you mention that.

I think we were the Astros a few years ago. Didn’t we have Fulchino at one time?

by AxDxMx on Apr 17, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep...thats why i brought it up....

we’re not the worst organization in baseball anymore

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Apr 17, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hooray! Let's start the chant!

WE’RE NOT LAST! WE’RE NOT LAST! WE’RE NOT LAST!

by AxDxMx on Apr 17, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

PA

RA

DE

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by Warden11 on Apr 17, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny

For the first time in a long time (and until the inevitable return of that dickweed Kendall), the Royals dont have any of their patented “worst players in baseball” types. The Elartons, the Kendalls, TPJ, Yuni…….makes this team a heck lot more likable.

And theyre even playing better. Imagine that.

by DaytonSucks on Apr 16, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit, Francis deserves a win

Another fine reason to crave the sweep.

by LaFLamme on Apr 17, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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