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Evaluating the 20-80 Scouting Scale on a 20-80 Scale

My evaluation of the 20-80 Scouting Scale on a 20-80 scale: 20.

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I love the fake precision of it

Apparently only of increments of 5 can be used, and most people use 10- making it a 7 point scale.

by kcbottom9th on Apr 22, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

I love the screams of YOU JUST CAN’T EVALUATE PEOPLE USING NUMBERS!!!!!!!111

from the same people

by Freneau on Apr 22, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find this part interesting:

Much like a kind teacher giving the slow kid 10 points just for getting his name right on the top of an assignment, baseball prospects get 20 points just for, you know, existing, I guess.

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"Where did all these Indians come from?" General George Armstrong Custer, circa summer 1876

by loyal2sdad on Apr 22, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

but only 80 for being a HOFer

though i’ve heard prospects from georgia can get 90 rankings

kinda like that honors/ap bump some HS use

by Freneau on Apr 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why 20?

And why 80? Never really got that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 22, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The 20-80 scale explained

A nice little explanation here. It is based on a normal distribution with each unit of 10 being one standard distribution from the mean. This is uncharacteristically numbersy for the scouting crowd, but I’ve read this explanation from many sources.

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by Scott McKinney on Apr 22, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd love to see a distribution of the actual scores given

because something tells me it doesn’t follow that rubric

by Freneau on Apr 22, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think the mathematical explanation above accurately describes the genesis of the 20-80 scale, but I doubt the freqency of the various numbers given out match a normal distribution. Of course I really don’t know. But it’s not like they give out a lot of 70’s and 80’s, at least not from the scouting reports I’ve read.

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by Scott McKinney on Apr 22, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to hear a "behind the scenes" account as to whether most scouts even know this

Maybe the way grades are given out happens to coincide with the standard distribution model, but I can’t believe it’s because they understand the probability theory.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 22, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you

major in math or statistics?

He's got tools, son!

by DaytonSucks on Apr 22, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Political science

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by Scott McKinney on Apr 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...ive seen very few 80s attached to prospects....

stanton and harpers power, there’ve been a few 80 speed guys….but the handful that are given out out of the thousands of guys scouted makes it seem like they follow that scale pretty closely

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Apr 22, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems really scientific

For something that seems very arbitrary.

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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 22, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee Judge disagrees

or maybe he agrees

either way

by Freneau on Apr 22, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lots of standardized tests use a 20-80 scale

PSAT sections are 20-80
SAT sections are 200-800
SAT II tests are 200-800
The LSAT is 120-180

I guess if they were using the same distribution, then a 70/170/700 would be a 95th percentile, and my memory is that it’s a bit lower than that, but otherwise, this seems like a pretty widespread scale

"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"

by KSinDC on Apr 22, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I give this story a 20

on a scale of 1 to 20

batter nine you sucky

by marbotty on Apr 22, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome. Funniest thing

I have read on the internet since…the rant about Cardinal fans from yesterday(?).

Sorry if this sounds insanely creepy from a non-regular poster on here, but I’ve been reading the site regularly since 2007, just don’t post much/at all:

Seriously Will, you have been killing it lately. Your unemployment is a huge boon to all of us lurkers…been meaning to post in a thread for a while and let you know.

Some place will be paying you a decent wage to write in the near future, and all of us will be worse off for it.

I once tried to string together the combination, "Hot Shot Hit Foul". It didn't quite come out that way. -- Denny Matthews

by gordonfan on Apr 22, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

not true

I’m rooting hard for him to get Dick Kaegal’s job

I once tried to string together the combination, "Hot Shot Hit Foul". It didn't quite come out that way. -- Denny Matthews

by gordonfan on Apr 22, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

HERE ! HERE!

Huzzah for Will!

Supporting the Kenji Jackson Approach for every day situations.

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 22, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

greatest writer in the

history of whatever

He's got tools, son!

by DaytonSucks on Apr 22, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

He writes

like his hair is on fire

by HisownZone on Apr 22, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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