Make That Back-To-Back Blown Saves for Jack, Royals Fall to Angels 10 - 8 (Updated), Soria Out as Closer
by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT
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As if blowing two saves in the past week had not done enough to sully his reputation and dash the hopes of a hopeless fanbase, Joakim Soria elected to leave a pitch up and in the middle of the plate to Torii Hunter with a runner on while protecting a one-run lead. Predictably at this point, Hunter ripped the ball into the stands in left.
The damage wasn't done. Of course.
Alberto Callaspo reached on a one-out single and went first to third on a Russell Branyan single to shallow left that saw Wilson Betemit leave his post at third chasing down a ball that either Alcides Escobar or Alex Gordon had a much more realistic shot of having a play at. Then Mark Trumbo hit a ball sharply at the official defensive liability Wilson Betemit that should have been a double play but was instead booted, plating Callaspo and leaving Mr. Soria to need to strike out Hank Conger and Peter Bourjos.
Leaving aside the fact that despite having managed in the Senior Circuit Ned Yost seems to be entirely unfamiliar with the concept of defensive substitutions in the ninth inning of close games which is a discussion for a different day, Soria's season-long ineptitude in a spot at the front and center of our collective consciousness has become more and more concerning each day.
Given that Soria's velocity is up, an injury does not seem apparent. The level-headed Royals fan can point toward the futility in looking too closely at the small statistical sample size that Soria has accrued thus far, but that doesn't make these inexplicable results any less troubling.
On a day where the Royals hammered out eight runs on 11 hits and five walks, fueled by a four-RBI day from Eric Jesus Hosmer and two hit days from Hosmer, Alex Gordon, Wilson Betemit, and Chris Getz, it is unfortunate that our memories will take us back to the image of Soria leaving that ball up to Torii Hunter. Alex Gordon and Eric Hosmer's first inning home runs may as well have been for naught. FML. FOL.
Until the next soul-crushing defeat, we shall all be left to wonder what hath God wrought. At least until Hosmer can ask his Father.
Update: Apparently Soria has lost the closing gig. The move may be temporary, but Crow to close for the time being. Soria is said to have asked Yost to remove him from the role until he rights the ship.
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and Ned yanked Soria as the closer postgame
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sounds like Soria asked ned to yank him as well. he said he wants the royals to win and he isn't helping right now.
straight up dude. we need him back. he is too good and too classy. not to be repetitive (although I am)….let’s welcome him back later this year in a starting role.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh please god let them consider the possibility that he should be a starter
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Amen
Why not give him a shot at that? He’s never been the prototypical closer anyway.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
Our best pitcher the last 3 years
gets like 60 innings. Makes zero sense to me.
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i though greinke was throwing 200+ innings
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by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
touche
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Soria gave it up
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeppers
BUT HE COULD NOT SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL….Yost lost two games in a row because he stuck his head in the ground.
Monty: "Something is missing for Soria right now"
My inner child: “Outs”
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by KC_Satchmo on May 30, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
That Hunter home run
was definitely a strike.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!!! Man...Hunter probably automatically gets wood when he gets off of an airplane in KC.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Saves
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on May 30, 2011 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yost does not know how to win
Yost has consistently misused and mismanaged his relievers to the point to making me “a resident of Florida now” post these comments. We play ball here and the mistakes I have seen Yost make are not even made at the Little league level. Some of his comments tend to make me think he is smok’in something funny He has lost touch with reality. Then he says “he’ll figure it out” about his reliever….THEY DO NOT PAY A COACH TO ALLOW HIS PLAYERS TO FIGURE THINGS OUT IN THE BIG LEAGUES…THEY PAY COACH’S TO WIN GAMES and NOT BE SO “HARD HEADED”
man...the only thing i would consider a "slippery slope" about that last comment would be the thought of....
Trey Hillman. This guy wouldn’t let any of his players figure things out. And…would inject himself into the game so much that it made you want to push him, and his unicycle, off of a cliff.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
OT - Montgomery is a terrible television guy. He is hard to listen to, and I feel like he
makes up words when he can’t think of what he wants to say… But…maybe that is just some of my residual disdain that I acquired for him as our closer back in the day…
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't go so far as to say he's terrible
he has a minor role on a small markey broadcast for a shitty team. He reaches my very low expectation level.
I do think he looks kinda shady tho. Not bodies in the back yard shady…but owner of the Mets shady.
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I agree. Horrible
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
what in the world are the Royals paying Yost for????
to sit back and make foolish remarks like he has….he pulled these same stunts last year….the only reason they won late was because he "yost’ had 6 players with over 300 batting averages in the line up and THEN ever he would not let them run….it took an entire OFF SEASON for him to figure that out
let me check the Eric Gagne timeline
I know Gagne lost the closers spot in 2008, but was closing pretty soon after losing that spot. So there’s a shot that Soria’s still going to be in high leverage situations soon
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This all resembles the Gagne situation very much
I believe Gagne asked to be pulled from the role back then as well.
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I agree with Will on Ned's lack of interest in defensive substitutions
I don’t get why he leaves Wilson in when we have a lead in the 9th inning. Aviles is a better glove and not a bad offensive replacement.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Agreed
trade showcase maybe…maybe…we can only hope
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I would agree with some of his lack of late inning moves. Namely...not pinch hitting (especially for Escobar).
However, I don’t know if I would ever consider Mike Aviles a defensive upgrade for anyone. This guy is terrible at every defensive position.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Slightly less suck
is still an upgrade over suck
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Then be creative
Gordon to 3B. Mitch to LF.
I doubt that even crosses Edgar’s mind.
Edgar knows best.
ugh. I may be off, but that just sounds like you are putting a guy (gordon) in a weird position when he has been
in the outfield mind set. ***And…..I know there is a suck factor in both aviles and betemit. But…betemit really hasn’t been worse than aviles recently.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It bugged the shit out of me when Dyson was around and Melky always stayed in center
after the 6th when the Royals had the lead.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
HOW DARE YOU!?!?!
Melky has like 3 diving catches this year
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Now....this ^ I totally agree with.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
mikes been atrocious at 3b this year....
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by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He still has better range than Wilson
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and shittier hands which is an impressive feat
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by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait...he has feet for hands?
that explains everything!
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Totally agree. I would never put Aviles in for anyone as a defensive replacement late in the game.
And….this would be for two reasons. 1. he sucks defensively. 2. his instincts for the game are TERRIBLE. Taking his bad defense out of the equation…I don’t want him in a crucial spot where he has to make any sort of decisions.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What is this "worse than Betemit" you speak of?
I am unaware of such a thing
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Am I going to get fried for saying.....maybe? I don't see an immediate upgrade worthy of a substitution.
Aviles isn’t good, and seems to progressively get worse defensively…
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Betemit is a guy who has never had a position
Aviles has been a middle infielder for his entire career. I would be stunned if he isn’t markedly better than Betemit.
We give Aviles a lot of crap for his defense
But I think he’s much more suited to do it every day than Wilson.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
But...everyday would include carrying a worthy bat to the plate as well. Which is why
I would rather Wilbet play everyday than Micah. And….I may be off, but I really do not see a marked upgrade in defense of aviles over betemit. both are bad. but….definitely not something I would be bent about either way.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if we leave 2008 (where Aviles was rated as a stellar defender) out of it,
and we take Aviles’s past three seasons where he’s been a slightly below-average defender (while learning new positions), Betemit’s defensive ratings are some of the worst in baseball. Unless we think that somehow that’s different this season than it has been in the past, Aviles should replace Betemit defensively when possible.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on May 31, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess i just don't know that Aviles necessarily is the same defender we thought he was.
I feel like he is getting a little too much credit with this statement because he had a decent (surprisingly decent) defensive year at SS in his first year. He has been really bad ever since then. He was bad at second and bad at third. ***I guess which shade of bad do you want defensively here, but I would be stunned if he was markedly better than Wilbet.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Atleast we didn't use Collins or crow
Though a mute point right now
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by Mas Cervezas on May 30, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He's gunna ruin Collins
which really pisses me off
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Eh, Collins is an above average reliever
but I don’t believe he’s anything special.
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Didn't say he was special
but he’s a pretty good reliever…that is on pace for 90 freaking appearances and elbow surgeery
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Damn, everyone's testy today.
I said special, not you. Just not incredibly worried about him getting ruined.
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Didn't mean to seem testy bro
it’s all good. Just saying that there is really no reason to ruin the kids…half our roster is freaking relievers
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Maybe it's me
had a long weekend with gf’s family at her parents.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Bad vibes with the gf's parents??
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No, they're actually great.
But still…Friday to today with the other 4 siblings plus their husbands/wives AND the 14 grandchildren. 29 years old and single has me spoiled, I like my quiet time.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I think you can be forgiven for saying almost anything, based on that
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
FLASH FORWARD to January 2012
Moore: “Aaron Crow is too valuable as the closer to try him in the rotation.”
This team is fucking incompetent.
by deezle on May 30, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate the truth
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ARGH.....stop predicting things that will probably come true!! I think we will buck the trend on this one, though
Crow will be in our rotation soon. Is this blind hope??
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yes.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Crow, Duffy, Soria, Montgomery and Hochevar
With a little Chen available as fill in. 2012? Maybe?
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
But...if it could. I would tune in with some anticipation to each game.
No offense O’Sullivan. Or…whatever….take offense to it if you want, O’Sullivan!
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty scary that people are counting on Chen as a piece in any future.
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Rock Chalk Talk
I felt i had to throw that in as the second sentence to reward him being our best starter for the last year
and a half. And…the fun name of “Come on Chen!!”.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
wait!!! That is the dude from Golden Child that wiped his booger on his sleeve!!
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by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It is almost as if he gets type cast in certain types of roles or something...
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by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's just been posted a bunch here
and that’s scary.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Needs more Paulino
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Love how this all happened on a Monday...
So my weekly locked fantasy roster is screwed until next week.
like we're gonna win a game this week anyways
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We're winning Paulino's start
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Tragic Kingdom
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
but I’m drawing a bath, lighting candles, throwing on Sophie B. Hawkins, and placing a plugged in toaster precariously on the edge of the bath tub.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Side note
I actually met Stefani at a party shortly before they hit it big.
I did not get laid.
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She was still with that dude in the band then.
Oh, wait, I’m dead.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea
All I know is I approached and got no play whatsoever.
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good for you for making a run at it. if you would have succeeded, that would have been an epic RR story.
as it is….it is still a respectable play sir. Plus…you could have confirmed for us all whether, or not, she has a penis.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
She rejected me
so clearly she does have a penis.
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Ironically
my opening line probably was something like “Me and you should hit the hay”
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by KC_Satchmo on May 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better than "she'll do the dishes"
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"Lets go make a mess in my room"
is a much better line
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haha!! No doubt.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
But not as funny as thinking I'm committing suicide
to “Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover”
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Too over the top
Still has to fit the image, but mixes steamy with suicide.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
How about The Divinyls
I touch Myself?
Gives that song whole new meaning.
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Now there is a woman with a penis
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Better
closer to what i’m going for than The Humpty Dance.
Still prefer the mood that the candles, bath, and Sophie B. gives though.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
not a mood setter
It’s more, element of a romantic bath possibly for two, another, another, then suicide.
Sexual Healing maybe. Purple Rain.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
But neither of those songs evoke the image
of Dylan McKay and Kelly Taylor on the beach in each other’s arms on 90210 in the summer of 1992. Sophie B. does.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. That last one was an attempt
To get to the other side of what you were looking for.
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Now, I'm sure I just made a reference that no one got.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No one with a man card ;)
yours is revoked. hand it over
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This is where you lose me.
I care not about these things. I only care when I see adult males wearing sandals to bars, which is an affront to the principles of civil society.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though it's crazy ...
Actually perhaps because it’s crazy, I admire your stand.
And I shall continue to beat that drum
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by Old Man Duggan on May 31, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Living in Austin, I'm going to guess no but are you part of the "men should never wear shorts" camp?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Never watched BH 90210.
Now I just got on the topic of ridiculous/ironic songs to commit suicide to/request to be played at your funeral.
Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry, Be Happy”
Sting’s “Roxanne”
Kiss’ “Rock ’N Roll All Night”
The Scorpions “Rock You Like a Hurricane”
Drowning Pool’s “Bodies”
That song “Who is Johnny?” From the film Short Circuit
Aaron Neville’s “All I Need to Know”
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Mmmmm Bop
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"Alive" by Pearl Jam
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
"Buried Myself Alive" by the Used
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously,
I want “Dress Sexy at My Funeral” by Smog played at my funeral. Tomorrow.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I want
Always look on the Bright Side of Life by Monty Python.
I also want to be buried in one of the Tuxes from Dumb and Dumber
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by averagegatsby on May 31, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Also,
love Rock You Like a Hurricane. I always felt like the Chiefs should find a way to have the Scorps be the in-house band at Arrowhead, setting up at an end zone, and playing Rock You Like a Hurricane whenever the Chiefs scored a TD.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I got it.
You’re all good. Plus I’m not gay…Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on May 31, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome,
The bigger question is: “Would you have remembered ‘Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover’ from that scene as I do?”
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by Old Man Duggan on May 31, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn!
I’ll bet she wishes she was your lover!
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on May 31, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
never pay for saves
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True story
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Word
Buy a Sean Marshall and a Kameron Loe for pennies and you win Holds all the time, then bump your offense, SP.
Edgar knows best.
Saves in my league are well worth it.
I don’t know who else has CBS fantasy, but an closer can have 13+ points an outing. And when your team usually scores 300~ a week then 13~ PER outing makes a 45~ point difference.
I secretly felt strong about my Tori Hunter play this week.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost did aswell but I went with callaspo this week as a filler
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by Mas Cervezas on May 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the 27-26 argument is a giant assumption
that relays on the argument that if someone other than Joakim Soria were closing, that he would never blow a save through 2 months.
Now, the “we’d be 28-25 without Soria blowing saves” is an argument advanced by idiots, since the Royals are 1-4 when Soria blows saves, not 0-5
But we’re not in contention even at 27-26. Because the starting pitching blows, and the bullpen is starting to crumble. Crow blew the lead yesterday. Coleman wasn’t very good today.
And if Soria is hurt or not. He shouldn’t be working out his problems in the closers spot
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On a off subject matter.
It makes me mad that all the revenue sharing the Royals receive from the big market teams is not being used to keep the Beltrans or Grenke’s. We receive millions of dollars each year to invest in our team to make small market teams competitive. Our owner pockets that money and continues to trade our talent. If I were the Yankees or Boston I would stop paying these small market teams until they increase their payrolls.
Not here often?
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
ditto
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupid facebook link!
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on May 31, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
find me a legitimate source that shows that glass is pocketing a ton of money
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by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad hypothesized it
so it has to be true, right?
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
eah
poor poor Yankees and Red Sox.
Where did I put my lonely tear anyway?
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next to your "world's smallest violin"
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by JKWard on May 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and there it is
thank you sir!
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I think that was more of a problem five or ten years ago...
They’ve spent heavily in the minors, and in 07-09 the payroll grew at the MLB level
And MLB has been "cracking down" on smaller market teams not spending enough
by SagehenMacGyver47 on May 31, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard such pressure led to the Marlins locking up Johnson long term.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 31, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that there are expenses other than the major league payroll right?
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Beltran was an entirely different era in Royals history, kid. Deal with it.
Greinke didn’t want to be here, so we obliged him.
Vi veri veniversum vivus vici
Another good point, though. If we don't trade Greinke payroll is up over $60million.
What would you have said then when we would have been maybe two or three games better?
Vi veri veniversum vivus vici
Soria wouldn't have still been closing because he'd have had three or four other opportunities to blow saves then, too...
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
To say nothing for the cadre of injuries that Beltran has had that we lucked out of.
Good G-d, how much complaining would there have been through those years with his bloated contract?
Vi veri veniversum vivus vici
Dude people would be having strokes here with Beltran and his issues.
You’d have to personally talk me down from the side of the Brett Bridge.
I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.
he's actually earned every dollar he's been paid...unlike sweeney who didnt come close
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true. You are absolutely correct in every way
But that doesn’t halt perception.
Vi veri veniversum vivus vici
We should have never traded Danny Jackson
We’d win at least 74 games this year if we never make that trade.
Screw you Kurt Stillwell…wherever you are
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if we are going to do revisionist history
NEVER should have fired Hal McRae
I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.
Dude had it coming
put that in you f****** pipe and smoke it.
I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.
Your point
fails to actually consider how best to build a team as a small-market franchise. There is a fundamental lack of understanding how baseball works economically that you are displaying here. I don’t have the time to educate you.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets be honest
it’s not the time….it’s th effort
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
This, too.
Really don’t have the time. Have to watch Blue Valentine with the old lady and hope our relationship doesn’t crumble in its wake.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
In short,
there are actually a lot of reasons for this.
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by Old Man Duggan on May 30, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Money wasn't the issue with Greinke.
If it was, he’d be pitching in Washington right now.
We were calling for him to be send down like, 3 blown saves ago.
I am probably the only Royals fan in Hong Kong?
by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on May 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
In insisting that everything was fine yesterday,
Yost had about as much credibility as Baghdad Bob.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, yes.
Not sure which of that movie’s three conclusions were most ridiculous.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
actually lost a friend over this
He’s so into that shit. It’s like a cult. I demolished it with logic and sound economics and he had no response other than “you didn’t research the material enough.” So frustrating.
Obviously, you are not a golfer.
It's like
Milwaukee Eric Gagne redeux.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on May 31, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
so
is the ceiling for Yost/Moore pretty much close to Schottenheimer/Carl Peterson?
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Without inviting too much football talk here
I think Schott = Yost is very generous to Ned.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on May 30, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very very generous
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on May 30, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At first I thought you meant Marge Schott
And was like, well, Yost hasn’t praised Hitler or anything, and isn’t at any risk of bringing in league intervention..
then looked closer.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
didn't the Browns fire Schottenheimer after multiple chokes?
granted, Schottenheimer also made the playoffs and Yost didn’t.
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When you said Schott... I was thinking of Marge Schott
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I managed to watch the second half of this game
from the archive because I got called away when it was live. Avoided everybody all night, didn’t know how it ended until I watched it. Un-friggin-believable. My reaction? Feel sorry for Soria, not so much for Ned Yost. It took me a while, but I’m ready to send him back to Milwaukee.
We can trade Yost for Greinke
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by averagegatsby on May 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We might have to throw in several months of World of Warcraft credit, but I'd be okay with that.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on May 30, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Did that suck. The day looked so bright after Hosmer knocked in his third and fourth. It was fittin’ to be a special game. It was special, all right. Just wow.
Lowered Mexpectations!
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on May 30, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I was there today.
My first game of the year. Went to 11 last season. And I still haven’t seen a W since ’09.
We all felt so good early on, & then the end…man. I can’t even say I was mad. Just sad for Soria. I hope he’s able to figure it out somehow. I’d hate to think I saw his last appearance in the closer role.
Going again this Saturday – crossing fingers for a loooooooong-awaited win.
( Oh….and I bought a Hosmer shirt today. Hee. )
Wow...that is a crazy dry streak even for watching a bad team! Don't worry, by Saturday...we will be
about to win our 5th straight game. ***Otherwise we will have to start a win one for Diggity movement.
Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard.
by Clearly Ambiguous on May 30, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I do like our chances against the Twins.
My “hot” streak does have an asterisk in there, to be honest. We came back to win one of the games I was at last season – after we left ( the heat got to my wife ) . So I don’t count it.
I will say though – it was AWESOME seeing Hosmer crank one today ( almost 2, actually ).
by Diggity Dawg on May 30, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you could tell from soria's body language
as he was running in from the bullpen, that being on that mound was the last place on earth he’d rather be…it was like he was being led to his own (m)execution
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on May 31, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
I don't see any
comments about McClure’s role in all of this. Through 5 and a half years and 3 managers, Teflon Bob is never mentioned when we wonder whether a pitcher is left in too long (Meche), whether there is an injury (Meche, Soria) why a pitcher has never developed (Hochevar, Davies) whether a pitcher is tipping pitches (Hochevar and Soria among others.), and why a pitcher regresses (too many to count).
Yet somehow he is given credit for every success, even those that were expected due to the talent. I don’t get it.
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by KHAZAD on May 31, 2011 7:19 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Too bad about Soria
He may be fried for the season. He should go on the DL and then to Omaha for a couple practice outings before coming back to KC. If they were going to make him a starter, which they should have, the time was two years ago, not right now when he’s probably hurt and has certainly lost his effectiveness. Fortunately, the rest of the bullpen is promising. The starting rotation is frightening. We shoulda signed Freddy García. With all that weight of his gut swinging around giving more power to his fastball, he’s unstoppable.
I think it’s time to admit we’re not going to compete for the playoffs, but still should try for a respectable record. Lorenzocaine and Moose ought to come up midseason. Montgomery may have to be called up as well, what with the disaster that is the rotation. Don’t trade Francis, we need him, but Melky needs to go for what he can bring and probably Frenchy as well, though a Gordon-Cain-Frenchy OF would be better than what some other teams have to trot out.
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But the name of the game is be hit and hit back" --Warren Zevon
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