Keeping up with Ex-Royals in the Indy Leagues
The wonder of some Indy Leagues is the random guys who show up there. Even guys who have Major League Experience. Here are some of the former Royals whose names I have spotted in the American Association and the North American Baseball League.
First off, due to his profile pic, it's St. Paul Saints outfielder Shane Costa

The look could suggest a man who wonders where it all went wrong. Costa is hitting .333 for the Saints (21 for 63) with 9 doubles, a triple, and a homer. His most notable teammate is Chad Cordero, who is still pitching at the age of 29. 41 for some reason. (I swear, the Saints roster page on the American Association site lists him as being born in 1969)
The NABL has a lot more random Royals, including the manager of the Calgary Vipers, Morgan Burkhart (whose Royals stint seemed to be the Cardinals series at Busch in 2003). The Chico Outlaws have Chris Lubanski AND Brian McFall. Lubanski is 19 for 71. McFall is 13 for 68 with 3 HR. The Edmonton Capitals have Albie Lopez for some reason. Lopez has struck out 13 in 11 1/3 innings while allowing 7 earned runs. Also, he's 0 for 3 as a batter. Since the only thing better than Albie Lopez pitching is Albie Lopez hitting.

"How did I wind up in Edmonton?"
Lopez's teammates include Chad Blackwell (2004 draft pick, dealt with Jonah Bayliss to acquire all-star pitcher Mark Redman). Blackwell gave up 7 runs (2 earned) in 2/3rds of an inning on Thursday night, in a game where his manager may have fallen asleep. Another member of the Edmonton Capitals is Jorge Vasquez, who pitched in 2 games for KC and was traded for Eli Marrero. Edmonton's general manager must have been a huge fan of the Allard Baird-era Royals farm system.
The Yuma Scorpions centerfielder got some special praise from his manager Jose Canseco today:
"Our new centerfelder Joey Gathright is electric and reminds me of rickey"
Now, he did not specify which Rickey he was talking about. But Joey Gathright is 10 for 21 for Yuma so far. So that's helpful. The Scorpions don't just have Jose Canseco managing, DHing, and pitching.. they also have Ozzie Canseco as a player/hitting coach (after all, we all have something to learn from Ozzie Canseco).
So it's like if Pete Rose had an identical twin who also played for the Reds in the 1980s (not to be confused with Tony Perez). Gilbert De La Vara is also pitching for the Scorpions. De La Vara is a 2004 draftee who made it to Omaha in 2009 at 24, and was then released.
The American Association includes such notables as Alex Caldera (Fargo-Moorhead), Aaron Hartsock (Winnipeg), James Baker (Gary SouthShore Railcats), 2010 draft pick Cole Lohden (KC T-Bones), Fernando Garcia (KC T-Bones), Edwin Bellorin (Wichita Wingnuts), and Travis Metcalf (Fort Worth Cats).
But let's not forget about the Atlantic League.
Angel Berroa is playing for Bridgeport (.286/.312/.451, 4 HR). His teammate Adam Greenberg (286/442/471, 6 triples/3 HR) played for the Wranglers a few years ago. Greenberg is best known for being hit by a pitch in his only major league at-bat. The Camden Riversharks saw what Bridgeport was doing and brought in John Bale (17 K in 19 2/3 IP) to pitch for them. Bale's teammate is Pedro Feliz (242/315/354). Long Island decided to bring in Jeremy Hill (6 K in 10 2/3 IP) to up the ante. Long Island also has John Rodriguez and Lew Ford, and was unable to track down Bo Hart. Remember when I mentioned Jonah Bayliss? He's pitching for Lancaster now.
But the Somerset Patriots really went for it all by signing Justin Huber. Huber's line is a Huberriffic 295/395/417 with 41 hits in 139 AB. They also signed Fernando Cortez (the other half of the Gathright/Cortez for Howell deal) and Josh Pressley (who played for the 2005 Wranglers with Mike Aviles, Mitch Maier, Justin Huber, Shane Costa, Billy Butler, and Brian Bass. The York Revolution only had Corey Thurman as their obligatory former Royal, which is why they're only 20-19 while Somerset is 14-26 and Camden is 13-28.
Sometimes it's good to know that the guys who filled out the Royals farm system in 2005 are still in baseball.
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Maybe Canseco has a good workout plan for Gathright
Imagine Joey on the juice… he would look like a Barry Bonds bobblehead that magically came to life.
what about Disco Hayes?
I am probably the only Royals fan in Hong Kong?
by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Jun 17, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
I think I remember someone bringing up that he is having TJS
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Jun 17, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes - and before that he was playing with the Southern Maryland Blue Crabs
of the independent Atlantic League.
Was wondering what happened to Costa
Weren’t there people arguing he should start here?
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To be fair
When they were making those arguments, he probably WAS the best option to start.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
A testament to how far we've come
Still lots of work to be done, but improvement nonetheless.
I need to go take a Davies and wipe my Elarton. Excuse me.
by royaldaddy on Jun 17, 2011 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
anybody calculate how many playing jobs there are in organized ball (minors/indy ball/majors)
There’s 6 current indy leagues, half of which are tilted towards less experienced players. Then you have the NABL/Atlantic Leagues which are more favorable to veterans.
It seems like the best way to not keep a playing spot in organized baseball is to not try hard enough.
If Albie Lopez, who had pitched 5 innings between being released by the Royals in 2003 and reappearing with the Golden Baseball League Tucson Toros in 2010, can reappear in baseball.. then that’s a strong validation of the theory.
If Jose Guillen felt like it, he could be playing in Camden this year. But then again, Jose Guillen probably didn’t blow all his money from his last contract so quickly.
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If my math and info is right
At any one time there are 5925 rostered players in affiliated baseball, including MLB and not including non US rookie leagues.
That’s just on active rosters, there must be hundreds more in extended spring training, disabled lists etc.
Edgar knows best.
Right. At that point, it's either hanging on hoping for another shot at glory or guys who truly love the game.
They’re not making a living wage in the Indy leagues, wonder how a lot of the guys do it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I know for the T-Bones some of the local guys teach in the off-season.
At least one of their players last year was like a high school coach or something who they signed when he came to their open tryout. And a lot of the others do like the minor leaguers – work seasonal jobs in the off-season and/or supplement with private lessons. Either way, it is far from glamorous.
don't think cordero is 41
but awesome stuff
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jun 17, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
So, what you're saying is that...
…KC drafted some awesome Indy League players. It looks like 35% of the league either came from or passed through the KC farm system. – TL
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
We love the Indy leagues
That’s why we drafted Luke Hochevar and Aaron Crow!
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via Schaum
the T-Bones signed Kala Ka’aihue (who never played in the KC org, but who played in the best organization in baseball. He has a brother too)
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Watched him last night, looks like a right handed clone of Kila.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Do These Guys
Make any money? Or are they just showcasing their skills and living off the contracts they had with MLB clubs?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
I work for an indy club
and no, they make practically no money. A lot of these guys are just hanging onto a thread with the hopes of being picked up. Others just don’t know what to do with their lives. The players might make $200-$500 a week, but they do get housing, bills payed, some food, etc..
Haters gonna hate!
Go Royals, Chiefs and Blues!
by theroyalblues on Jun 17, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jun 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if you're that good and you really want to make money
You go to Korea or Taiwan. I knew a friend of a friend that did that. He wasn’t very good but he got paid okay, but the cultural adjustment was too much and he left after one year.
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What the hell do guys like Canseco spend all their money on?
I mean, if I was making huge money, I’d buy a nice $1 million house in Mission Hills or Leawood and drive a Volvo. I’d have a couple of horses, just nice old nags, and a few acres out in the country. I might buy a condo on the Plaza for investment purposes and as a party pad. That’s it. I’d probably spend a couple hundred bucks a month ordering stuff off Amazon. And I’d give some cash to charity. I’d tithe, 90% for me and 10% for the needy. Isn’t that selfish? Besides, you get a tax break.
How can you just blow forty million bucks, or whatever Canseco blew? It seems so irresponsible.
"They may make cool judgements after the fact
But the name of the game is be hit and hit back" --Warren Zevon
There was an article in SI a few months ago
About this. Basically everyone comes at you with “investment opportunties.” And most of them are really terrible. Like restaurants (which often fail) or some new invention (that doesn’t work) or maybe an old friend that is starting a new business (that never gets off the ground). Lots of these guys know their money is pretty limited, but instead of investing it in something conservative that will pay off for years, they want to double or triple their money. Or they don’t really understand what an IRA or mutual fund is, but they do understand what a restaurant is.
Also you have to pay lots of people usually. Agents, personal trainers, ex-wives, etc.
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I guess I will say: never say never til you have been down that road...
I learned my lesson with credit cards at college that I thought I had no chance of getting (just filling apps for t-shirts and sunglasses)
I’ve seen a ton of guys go from being 18-22 and broke, get a 80k a year job…then a wife…then a house…then a dog…then kids…then divorced, 200k in the hole, and paying $1600/month in child support…and that is on a much smaller scale then pro athletes…
I think if I was an athlete that had banked less than a mil and was single and couldn’t make it in the majors, I wouldn’t know what to do and would probably do what most of them do and that is enjoying baseball- the team identity, the game every day attitude, just the chaotic structure of it all (got all Yogi Berra on that ass)…and like mentioned, grab a couple dollars doing something you love…if baseball is what you love and as long as you don’t have a family to support, just keep on keepin’ on
Don't be lonesome for your heroes. Be your own hero.
As a transplanted Royals fan in the Bay area
I decided to morally support the Royal with the least amount of playing time at an A’s game three or four seasons ago. I made a banner and hung it from the left field bleacher railing. It said “Champagne Shane” and had a glass of bubbly drawn on it with his number.
My banner made it into the local broadcast and I’m sure it confused the hell out of the A’s fans, and probably Costa too.
Saw Berroa play last week...
He made a nice running catch in shallow LF, then flipped the ball to my buddy while running off the field. We then got into the “That’s THE Angel Berroa?” conversation, quickly followed by the “Matsui was robbed that year for ROY!” debate.
Doesn’t seem like it was that long ago that he was the starting SS in KC.

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