Ned Yost's Supposed Player Development Skills Looking More and More Imaginary

but what is the thought process?

we’re playing treanor to win now with one hand, we’re letting escobar hit in the 9th to lose now with the other

…if you are supposed to be a manager who is good at bringing up young players…

…would be in developing a catcher for the future.

Pena might not be that guy either way, but given the way he’s being treated we can pretty much quit worrying about it at this point.

No one is actually justifying their statements. His other pitches might be improving, but that’s not guaranteed, but neither of you has any evidence to indicate either way.

It’s called logic. How does a pitcher improve pitches by throwing them much less?

Good. Regardless, I’m doubtful that four tenths of a percentage when they’re getting approximately the same number of plate appearances makes any real difference.

but most people in the know seem to think Treanor’s better defensively.

No logic behind the optimism? I’m not saying Crow’s necessarily improving or failing to improve as a starter, but at least Jim offered a "well, he could be improving based on this scenario." All we get in response is "not necessarily," which, by definition, also means "potentially yes."

Final Summary:
You have basic premises that are in conflict. No convincing arguments have been made.

Like you said, he could be a decent MLB player, but he was standing in the way of Jesus Hosmer Christ. There’s just not a spot for him in KC anymore, and because we never let him play before this (Thanks Mike Jacobs), he has almost no value at this point.

I’m not saying that we would have gotten anything useful for him even if we’d let him play, but we’d have more of a chance than what we do now.

based on the 5 question marks. He turned 27 in March, which is “old” for a prospect, but he’s “young” in terms of MLB experience. Hence the “developing” part of it: he’s only had a half-seasons’ worth of MLB at bats. He really only recovered from his knee injury in 2008, so he’s had about 3 total professional seasons where he’s been at full strength. So while his age is old for a prospect, he’s young in professional baseball experience and was never given the chance to develop into the average-ish major league player he may have become.

would be taking AB’s away from a future major-league star

Another month or two in AAA for Hosmer would have meant basically nothing to the ML team (still in last place) and would have made certain that Hosmer wouldn’t qualify for Super-2 status, potentially saving the team money.

Look at Raul Ibanez and Kila’s career numbers — they’re virtually identical through the first 300 plate appearances. (And I’m just choosing Raul because he first popped in my head — there are hundreds of guys that have struggled in their first attempt at the majors, only to go onto be good and even great players later on.)

The problem with making a snap judgement on a player based on such a small sample is that you end up missing out on potential bargains that you can either build a team around, or you can trade to shore up areas of need.

It’s one thing if a team like the Yankees do it, because they have the luxury of missing out on good players. If a team like the Royals does it, it’s a sign of negligence/incompetence. It’s especially bad because they have been in the perfect position to take this chance — their team has a limited payroll and wasn’t expected to contend at any point over the last two or three years.

What I really don’t understand, though, is how a team can look at Kila’s production over the last three years in the minors, a time span in which he has not just been good, but very likely the best hitting prospect in baseball, and act as if it never happened. Since they weren’t going to win this year (or last year, or the year before), they easily could have put Kila in the lineup and let him sit there for a full season or two to finally figure out if he was for real. There was really no pressing need to promote Hosmer, aside from Moore’s own delusional thoughts of a contending team in 2011.

Oh, and on the side of the coin of the “300 plate appearances aren’t enough to get an accurate assessment of how well a player will hit argument”, I present to you the first 300 plate appearances of Jeff Francouer’s career - .300/.336/.549 -- numbers he would never come even remotely close to matching in the several years since.

these players are so common. there’s a reason why other teams aren’t trying to acquire them. it isn’t as if scouts aren’t allowed to attend AAA games.

That’s me!

But these are stories that deserve the attention of our best writers and stat analysts. I just know that if Gordon was still playing bad and escobar still not hitting, it would have the full attention of those guys

But these are stories that deserve the attention of our best writers and stat analysts. I don’t think that is to much to ask, especially when the success stories are few and far between

I just think that there are a lot of readers on here, like me, who would appreciate the same in depth analysis on the positive stories as we get on the others. I could try and provide it, but can’t do near the job that will Scott Jeff etc can.

I’d rather get the in depth analysis on here that I get about franceours struggles and all of daytons bad moves and that kind of stuff