Wilmington Starters by FIP

Jake Odorizzi - Age 21 - 2.05 (Best of 34 Carolina League pitchers w/ 50+ IP)
Noel Arguelles - "Age 21" - 3.45 (14th in the league)
Elisaul Pimentel - Age 22 - 3.64 (19th in the league)
Timothy Melville - Age 21 - 3.66 (20th in the league)
Justin Marks - Age 23 - 3.83 (24th in the league)

11 months ago KCBear 16 comments 0 recs |

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Is...this...the process?

by KCTiger on Jun 26, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

Halladay's FIP is 2.16

So clearly Odorizzi > Halladay

by KCTiger on Jun 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Where are you getting these stats?

by KSinDC on Jun 27, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions

They are from fangraphs

I couldn’t fine the league average FIP though so I just compared them to qualified starters. It looks like Odorizzi is the only one well above average.

by KCBear on Jun 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Thanks

I’ve been calculating my own off of B-R. It’s way nicer to have someone else do the work.

FIP is scaled to league-average ERA, so 3.74 is league-average FIP

by KSinDC on Jun 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice to see Melville bounce back

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by RoyalsRetro on Jun 27, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions

when Moustakas and Hosmer were there we had to remind everyone how much of a pitchers park it was and to put their numbers in that context. But now I think it’s a total bandbox so these numbers are that much more impressive.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions

I must be missing all the reminders that Monty is pitching in a hitting-crazy league

No need to act like this board provides a shortage of rain for other people’s parades

by KSinDC on Jun 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure there have been many remarks about the PCL

and, yes, it’s been applied to Montgomery, if not often enough for your taste. No sure it’s enough to make a 5.26 BB rate anything other than horrible, but maybe that’s just me.

There are some promising arms at Wilmington, but as far as numbers in the context of that park (as opposed to scouting) are concerned, the only FIP that really stands out as impressive to me there is Odorizzi’s.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 27, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions

League average is 3.74

Statcorner has park-adjusted runs above average (based on tRA):

Odorizzi +13.2 runs
Arguelles +0.1
Marks -0.1 (as starter only)
Pimentel -0.3
Melville -14.4

by Gopherballs on Jun 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

In the interest of being being "fair and balanced"

Montgomery: +0.5

Doesn’t look quite as bad when the PCL is taken into account, although a top prospect being league average in the minors is hardly something to be happy with.

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by Matt Klaassen on Jun 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I'm not throwing a party

But you’d never get the impression that he’s been a league-average (league average for PCL, not MLB) pitcher from the commentary around here.

Also, I don’t mean to be calling you out as an individual. I think it’s been important to put Hosmer and Moose’s stats in context when their numbers at AAA looked so other-worldly, and I think you make a good point above that we need to remember what Wilmington does to stats. I only objected to the idea that it’s all sunshine and rainbows around here.

by KSinDC on Jun 27, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions