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Following the Royals Top Prospects 5/27-6/2

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I added Jeffress to the list of prospects, mostly because the Royals are trying to make him into a starter. If he switches back to the bullpen, he will probably drop off this last. I am, however, very curious on how this experiment will turn out.

Triple Slash: Batters (BA/OBP/SLG) Pitchers (ERA/FIP/GO:AO)

Triple-A: The Storm Chasers went 4-3 this past week, but suffered a 22-6 beatdown on Thursday. Omaha finishes their series against the New Orleans Zephyrs Friday.

Mike Moustakas (.292/.356/.510) - Moose was on fire this week, racking up 14 hits. Three of those hits were doubles, and two of them left the yard. His overall numbers continue to rise after a slow start.

Mike Montgomery (5.18/3.98/1.46) - Montgomery was roughed up in his start Sunday, allowing six runs on eight hits in 4.1 innings. The lefty has allowed five runs in three of his last four starts, and appears to be in a funk.

Johnny Giavotella (.293/.360/.403) - Gio also swung the bat well, collecting 11 hits. Four of his hits were doubles, so hopefully the warm weather is helping the ball travel farther off his bat.

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Lorenzo Cain (.293/.363/.460) - Cain had a solid week, picking up eight hits and drawing a couple of walks. Two of Cain's hits were for extra bases, and he has shown more power in AAA than I expected of him.

David Lough (.320/.363/.509) - Lough had five hits this week, but amazingly drew four walks. Lough looks like he is ready for a call-up, but Francouer is hitting well enough that David seems to be stuck in AAA for the time being.

Jeremy Jeffress (6.35/5.26/1.50) Jeffress only worked two innings in his start this week, allowing one run on one hit. He struck out one batter, but issued five walks. That's not the kind of control you would like to see out of your starter.

Clint Robinson (.354/.441/.614) - Robinson had a decent week, smacking five hits and collecting four walks. I hope the Royals are shopping Robinson hard, because he certainly deserves a shot somewhere.

Double-A: The Naturals went 2-4 this week, losing a series to the Midland RockHounds. They play the final game of their series against the Frisco RoughRiders Friday night.

Wil Myers - Myers is currently in Suprise, and hopefully will be back with the Naturals soon.

John Lamb - Lamb is having Tommy John Surgery, and will miss the rest of the season.

Christopher Dwyer (6.14/4.31/1.11) - Dwyer labored in his last start, giving up five runs on four hits in 5.1 innings. The southpaw struck out six batters, but walked three. He should start tomorrow night against the RoughRiders.

Christian Colon (.232/.302/.298) - Colon had another rough week, only reaching base four times in 25 PA. I still have faith that he can turn it around, but he needs to start hitting better soon.

Salvador Perez (.263/.305/.367) - Perez went 4-17 this week, and also earned a walk. The catcher normally makes contact, but struck out four times this week, raising his season total to 16.

Derrick Robinson (.280/.369/.336) - Robinson had a nice week, picking up ten hits, including three for extra bases. The centerfielder also swiped five bags, but was caught stealing twice. He appears to be healthy again.

Will Smith (4.75/5.06/1.55) - Smith did not have his best stuff this week, allowing five runs on seven hits in 6.1 innings. He fanned two batters, but allowed two walks. Smith is still having issues keeping the ball in the park; he has allowed a homer in his last three starts.

High-A: The Blue Rocks are in a slump, going 1-6 this past week. They start a three-game series against the Potomac Nationals tonight.

Timothy Melville (4.83/3.99/1.23) - Melville was roughed up in his start this week, snapping a streak of four effective starts. Melville allowed eight runs (five earned) and seven hits in 3.1 innings pitched. The right-hander struck out two batters, but walked two as well.

Jacob Odorizzi (2.05/1.53/0.75) - Odorizzi made two starts this week. His first start was short; he allowed one run on three hits in 3.1 innings. Odorizzi walked three, but fanned seven. He dominated in his second start, shutting out the Kinston Indians for six innings. Jake scattered three hits, striking out eight hitters while walking two.

Noel Arguelles (2.84/3.60/0.77) - Arguelles had a difficult start Saturday, allowing four runs on seven hits in 5.1 innings. Three of the hits against Noel were home runs, raising his season total to five. The left-hander struck out three, and issued one walk.

Low-A: The Cougars went 4-3 this week, and having been playing a lot better since Cuthbert, Ventura, and Adam were called up.

Cheslor Cuthbert (.318/.400/.500) - Cuthbert picked up eight singles this week, and also drew five walks. The third basemen has been hitting  well so far in Low-A, and looks like he has made a lot of progress since last season.

Yordano Ventura (7.04/4.77/1.09) - Ventura made two starts this week. The first start was impressive; the right-hander tossed five shutout innings. He gave up two hits and two walks, but struck out ten batters. In his second start, Ventura allowed four runs on seven hits in 4.1 innings. Three of the seven hits left the park. Yordano did fan eight batters in his second start, and only issued one walk.

Jason Adam (1.85/2.95/1.13) Adam also made two starts this week, throwing six innings in each. In his first start, Adam gave up one run run on three hits, walking one batter while striking out three. Jason gave up two runs in his second start, allowing four hits and one walk but struck out eight batters.

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Ventura's second start

One of the runs was unearned because the catcher hit the baserunner while throwing to first after a dropped strikeout. Although part of that was because it was a wild pitch, hitting the ground a foot in front of the plate.

It's all ball bearings these days!

by CentralChamps20?? on Jun 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw Ventura gave up an unearned run

as did Adam, Montogmery, and I believe Odorizzi. I normally won’t distinguish between earned and unearned runs if the difference is only one, because I don’t think it matters very much

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read in the Omaha paper that indeed, Jeffress is being moved back to the bullpen

his last start was really, really bad.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jun 3, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope so

Five walks in two innings is atrocious. His repertoire doesn’t look like it will translate well to starting.

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you really hoping we are shopping Clint?

I mean at least give the guy a chance here in the majors. He could turn out to be a great hitter. At least testing him here:

A. Proves whether or not he can succeed in the bigs. If he does awesome then our team is that much better. People can say we have no room for him, but if a guy is good enough (not saying Clint is) then we can certainly make room.

B. If he comes up here and slays then his trade value only gets higher. I have to think that the value for a hitter who never made it to the majors is going to be lower than someone who has regardless of the results. The receiving team just knows what to expect.

by KCTiger on Jun 3, 2011 2:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

So you are a proponent of potentially wasting a good hitter just because you don't want to take time away from our MLB players?

I’m not saying Clint is going to be the next Pujols but come on. The guy won the triple crown last year and is absolutely killing AAA again this year.

It’s not like this is a high risk high reward scenario where we bring him up and sit Billy for a few games and then Billy holds it against us and doesn’t resign with us in 5 years.

But I think it is just silly to pass up on a guy who has absolutely crushed in the minors just because he is blocked.

I mean do we see the Reds looking to trade away Yonder Alonso just because he blocked by Votto?

Keep Clint until next year and see what opens up or god forbid yeah there is an injury but you’ve just traded away quite possibly one of the best AAA hitters in the league.

by KCTiger on Jun 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I mean do we see the Reds looking to trade away Yonder Alonso just because he blocked by Votto?"

Maybe not right NOW, but they have shopped Yonder in the past, and I imagine, will again if the Reds stay in it. If the Reds can pick up a SS they like, they will absolutely be looking to use Alonso as a piece to get one.

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Jun 3, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who do you bench to give Clint his shot?

Butler or Hosmer? Neither seem likely. And he apparently can’t do much more in the field than stand in the general vicinity of 1B and hold his glove up at throws from the infielders.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jun 3, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butler 100% of the time.

I’m not saying we bench Butler for 5 or 6 games at a time, but for a guy who is only going to DH for the rest of his life, I think he will be fine rotating his spot for a few months.

If Robinson doesn’t pan out then no harm. Sure you took a couple at bats away from BB, but it’s not like he isn’t going to be here in the long run.

If he does pan out then you look at either trading one of the two.

by KCTiger on Jun 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see no value in benching our best hitter

and potentially pissing him off. And you need more than a few at-bats to determine if Robinson will pan out. I think the Royals would be much wiser to trade him to a team that is willing to take a chance on him, much like the Rockies did with the Royals when they traded us Ryan Shealy.

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Warden and Sweep_the_Leg said

He doesn’t have a spot on this team, unless Hosmer/Butler gets hurt, which you don’t bet on. So I hope we are shopping him so we can get another prospect back who might have a future with this organization

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is an instance

Where it really doesnt pay to bring him up now. How would you do it? You’d have to bench Butler or Hos, and that just isn’t going to happen for enough games to prove anything. Plus, Clint is hitting so well in AAA that it wouldn’t help much to give him 50-100 PA in the majors. He’d barely be getting adjusted by that point and his numbers would reflect that. There’s a far greater chance at this point that it would hurt his value rather than help it. As far as us keeping him… Even if he continues to hit well, it’s doubtful it would be any better than Butler. Plus, Butler is time tested and reliably a good hitter, and he’s 2 years younger.
If they were going to test Clint, they needed to do it before they called Hos up. I think they should have, but it’s too late now.

by Prime2U on Jun 3, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is a good problem

Royals fans need to stop the “but what about this guy” game played by really bad franchises. Robinson would’ve gotten a chance if there weren’t better options and the front office just handed out participation ribbons. But the Royals farm system is the real deal and the front office understands what it has built (finally). That means guys like Robinson get passed over. It happens all of the time across baseball. Some guys just won’t make it and that’s okay.

by beej on Jun 3, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree, I think depth is a great problem to have

which is why I would love to swap some of our depth for more pitching. It’s hard to have too much pitching

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I have to think that the value for a hitter who never made it to the majors is going to be lower than someone who has regardless of the results"

I don’t understand how this is true. Was Kila’s trade value improved by his time with the Royals? If Clint comes up and scuffles, how does that improve his trade value over where it is right now?

by KSinDC on Jun 3, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is taking in account that he does struggle.

Most teams would rather know what major league result they are going to get rather than a mystery.

If Clint struggles then yeah his value drops a bit but then it becomes a Brandon Belt like scenario where a guy who crushes AAA struggles in his first MLB appearance but gets sent down to work on his stuff and WILL be called up again.

Not comparing Belt and Robinson though of course.

But again it comes down to risk and reward. Realistically we aren’t going to get much for Clint at this point. He is a low risk high reward for us.

by KCTiger on Jun 3, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You have to look at other prospects

If we find a team that has multiple good prospects in a position we need (or a young player with the position locked down in the bigs already), but doesn’t have a good 1b/DH prospect, there is the potential for a trade. Tampa in particular looks intriguing, as they have a ton of pitching prospects and nothing at 1b/DH They also have a ton of draft picks coming, and this draft is deep in pitching. Clint has completely proven himself in AA and AAA, and he doesn’t have the same bat that Kila does. It wouldn’t surprise me if we couldn’t get a middle ranked pitching prospect for him. Then neither side gets a proven MLB player, but both get something they need.

by Prime2U on Jun 3, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My biggest problem with that is...

You are trading away something you don’t know, that in turn could be fantastic.

I get that also if he was traded for a mid level pitcher that the pitcher could come from no where and be huge, but why take that risk? Why trade away seemingly good pieces for a maybe.

I think Tampa would rather have the more proven commodity it Butler than risk it with Robinson who has no real ML value to them that would produce a trade.

I just don’t agree with trading away a player that we don’t know what he could be in the majors, but is proving to be a top 5 guy in the minor leagues. Does MiLB success always carry over? Certainly not, but why trade away a somewhat fantastic hitter (at least in the minors) for a mid level arm.

by KCTiger on Jun 3, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the roster has 2 better players in the same spot.

That’s the part that makes roster construction important.

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by Warden11 on Jun 3, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice thought but...

A. Who do you bench for him to play? Hosmer or Butler? I’m not on board with that.
B. What happens if he gets his chance and pulls a Kila and sucks? Then you lose all trade value. Just let him mash at AAA and hope someone sees him as a big time prospect to trade for.

by rich04 on Jun 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is in need of a youngish, low-cost 1B-dh?...

I would say Tampa (who though deep in minor-league talent, really doesn’t have a 1B-man with pop anywhere near being ready in their system—that could change after the draft), Arizona, Oakland, Seattle and possibly Baltimore would be possible partners. Except that everytime we make a trade with Oakland it doesn’t seem to come out all that well.

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Jun 3, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Robinson?

I just don’t think anyone would give up anything remotely interesting for him. Most teams have a Robinson in their system, a 1B/DH with question marks and no prospect rep to back him up.

Edgar knows best.

by kcbottom9th on Jun 3, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, most teams have a Robinson in their system, which is partly why I didn't list 25 teams as a potential partner...

and Oakland does have Chris Carter coming along (but struggling in AAA right now) but who is that for Tampa? Nobody. Who is that for Baltimore? Brandon Snyder? Who is that for the D-backs? Maybe Brandon Allen. Or Seattle? Matt Tuiasosopo? I didn’t pull five teams out of a hat; all of these teams could use a cheap upgrade at 1B/DH who’s ML-ready.

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Jun 3, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the teams out of contention would be the best scenario for Robinson

Teams who are in contention won’t want to take a risk on him the second half of the season, but someone like the Orioles (or Oakland if they fall out of contention) might be willing to give him enough AB’s to make a trade worthwhile. I doubt Seattle would make a trade because they just traded for Justin Smoak.

by Connor Moylan on Jun 3, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

true about Smoak....

But they also have Jack Cust at DH.

If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.

by setupunchtag on Jun 3, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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