Royals Make BRAVE Decision to Bring Kyle Davies Back, Go With Innovative 6-Man Rotation
by Freneau on Jul 3, 2011 2:01 AM EDT
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PrintWhat a brave decision by the Royals to trust in Kyle Davies. With so many wonderful pitchers to choose from, why limit yourself to a 5-man rotation? Go with 6 guys. I have seen the future of the rotation and the future looks wonderful.
Heading into this season, Kyle Davies had made 131 career starts, and had a lifetime 5.49 ERA. In 706 innings, Davies's ERA was 30% above league averages. He was giving up over 10 hits per game, walking over 4 and striking out just 6.
The Royals said, "yea, come on back."
As Keith Law said earlier this week, with a performance record in which most guys would have been non-tendered, the Royals handed Davies a $3.2 million dollar contract. He had earned it.
The crazy thing is, Kyle Davies has been around for so damn long, that he's actually going to be a free agent after this season. So in bringing him back for 2011, the Royals weren't really gaining any long term access to Davies wonderful upside. if he was going to have a good season in 2011, his value to the future of the Royals would have been as a) trade bait or b) a comp pick. You can figure out for yourself how likely this scenario and how valuable those trade chits would have been.
Sticking with Kyle Davies for year after year after year... it has pretty clearly been a mistake. Time to move on.
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I like what you did with the pun there. And going with the Atlanta connection. SUPER original. Kyle Davies sucks ass, we all know it, but somehow you still managed to be trite and sophomoric about it.
by seelztlb on Jul 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I'm SUPER excited you added to the discussion.
For someone who was able to use two big words correctly and one incorrectly, you still managed to
a) respond as if you were on a Kansas City Star/Facebook/Royals Corner message board, and
b) do so hypocritically – the term “super” is one of the least original terms you could have used to try to criticize someone for being unoriginal
Sure, the Braves thing is a bit old, but what have you done for us lately?
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 2, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I Thought Maybe
I missed an inside joke. Who the fuck recommended this tripe?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 3, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
good question
maybe i’m just being that guy, and I’m missing something.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 3, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously. How stupid must those five people be?
What the NFL labor dispute needs is a modern-day Robin Hood
This Was Good and Interesting Analysis
I don’t understand the criticism. It was not that Davies was no good. It was that the Royals were stupid to pay him $3.2 Million and now to keep giving him starts when it is very unlikely he would return next year even if he somehow caught fire. I even disagreed with the analysis until Will explained the financial and free agent issues.
I think there is still a small chance Davies will become a decent starting pitcher, and I’m sure someone will take a chance on him next year, but it has reached the point where it apparentlyl is not going to happen for the Royals. The ONLY justification for giving him a few starts would be if they thought that they could establish some trade value if he made several strong starts. If so, okay on giving him a few starts, then move on to someone who might help over the next several years.
The same applies to Francis and Chen. Unless there is some realistic chance of them helping over the next several years (and I would even offer them contract extensions if there was a realistic chance of that), then very soon stop giving them starts.
by Kansas City Oracle on Jul 3, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Ditto, bud
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by Old Man Duggan on Jul 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I assumed the OP was Kyle Davies
And the five recommendations came from Moore, Yost, Davies’ wife, Ryan Lefebvre, and Davies infant child.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 3, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'm all for criticism if you don't agree with someone/thing on the site,
but if you sound like you’re ranting on a message board – especially without contributing to the discussion – then I’m going to take issue with that.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 3, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There are a number of SBNation blogs where that's par for the course.
I take pride in this not being one of them.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't want to be an ass like i was in my comment above, but i also don't want RR to
turn into a place where stupid, reactionary, detrimental crap rules the day.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 3, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If Davies Really
Stinks it up for the rest of the season, we can bring him back as a FA for cheap.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I doubt it, all the other 29 teams are just waiting for Davies to hit the open market so
that they can start the bidding on this remarkable starter.
Go Royals!
Hiram won't be back
Over-under on Davies’ MLB innings pitched, 2012-20??: 50. I’ll take the under.
"First we got the bomb and that was good, 'cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb but that's okay, 'cause the balance of power's maintained that way
Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve, 'cause they're on our side (I believe)
Then China got the bomb, but have no fears, they can't wipe us out for at least five years" --Tom Lehrer
I'd like to see the Vegas odds at an over/under of 1 inning...
I still might take the under
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
Someone will sign him to a minor-league deal
and he’ll throw four games with a 9.45 ERA and then go on the DL, permanently.
"First we got the bomb and that was good, 'cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb but that's okay, 'cause the balance of power's maintained that way
Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve, 'cause they're on our side (I believe)
Then China got the bomb, but have no fears, they can't wipe us out for at least five years" --Tom Lehrer
you're out of your fucking mind...
he’ll be in the major leagues for another 6-7 years…he’ll get a decent MLB contract this offseason probably as a starter
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jul 2, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm writing this shit down.
I don’t see it.
I just don’t fucking see it, dude.
If you’re right, I will bow down to you.
Mark this post.
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
will do
does it count if it’s with the royals?
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jul 2, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Davies 3.0 8 7 4 2 2 7.77
Who’s going to sign this guy for more than the minimum? And after he does this three or four times, who’s going to keep him around? He’s a terrible pitcher, according to both observation and stats. Some stats show him as awful and others as just really bad.
"First we got the bomb and that was good, 'cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb but that's okay, 'cause the balance of power's maintained that way
Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve, 'cause they're on our side (I believe)
Then China got the bomb, but have no fears, they can't wipe us out for at least five years" --Tom Lehrer
If kyle plays another 6-7 years
As a starter, then there are a lot mote shitty GMs out there than I thought.
by LimaTime10 on Jul 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could see him pitching that long
in Japan or an independent league. I don’t think he’s long for the world of MLB.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 3, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
He’s at least similar to Bruce Chen (not specifically, but generally), who isn’t great but keeps finding ML jobs.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jul 3, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Davies might possibly succeed as a reliever
Not likely, but possible. I’ll still take the under on 50 innings for Hiram for his post-2011 career.
"First we got the bomb and that was good, 'cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb but that's okay, 'cause the balance of power's maintained that way
Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve, 'cause they're on our side (I believe)
Then China got the bomb, but have no fears, they can't wipe us out for at least five years" --Tom Lehrer
Heywood Floyd: Dave?
Ghost of David Bowman: Yes?
Heywood Floyd: What’s going to happen?
Ghost of David Bowman: Something wonderful.
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
by Crooow on Jul 2, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Your 2012 Kansas City Royals!!!
My God—It’s full of stars.
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
by Crooow on Jul 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
kyle davies throws a changeup into our 5th planet from The Sun
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
Speaking of which
I was just telling a friend I am quietly waiting for the next “2001” to hit the theaters. May go to the grave with that wish…
It happened.
It was Tree of Life.
Hating life as a Royals fan 365 days a year at Royalscentricity
by Old Man Duggan on Jul 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kyle Davies is to pitching what Frenchy is to position players
he aint going anywhere. Dayton loves his pet projects.
Pro-Dayton Moore = Blogger
Anti-Dayton Moore= Troll
Well... his ERA is 7.46 this year and his career ERA is 5.49. So...
He obviously is going to pitch ~3.5 ERA the rest of the way!
Seriously, WTF is the organization thinking at this point? He’s turning it around after 700 innings?
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
Sounds like a repeat of the "let's keep playing Guillen to pump up his trade value" ploy
This is old news to any long time readers, but Davies might actually make a decent reliever. In the bullpen, he should see an uptick in his velocity, and his poor command is less of an issue. I could see a contender with no budget room to do anything else picking him up for free and giving him a shot as a reliever.
Too bad the Royals never tried to make him a reliever.
They just kept trotting him out there ever five (or six) days, getting him enough experience to raise his salary, but not his value.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 2, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Davies + Coors Field =
hilarity
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Chairman, The Melky Cabrera Seasoning Sauce. It's great on your outfield!
I have a feeling
Hiram will throw a one hitter…but it will be a walk off homer to Mark Ellis after he goes 8 2/3 perfect….but our offense gets shut down by a unknown rookie “who according to Ryan and Frank are the hardest pitchers to face”
Alex Gordon is a bad man
by tiquanunderwear on Jul 2, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
a walk off homer to Mark Ellis?
will it go over the wall this time? if not, will Ned sit with his thumb up his butt again?
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I don't think Ned cared....
If so I hate him
Alex Gordon is a bad man
by tiquanunderwear on Jul 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to make a Ned Yost picture with "and not a single fuck was given"
I would find that hilarious…
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
Am I the only one that is SICK of this team?
Everyone who plays for them just gets sucked down to the lowest possible level of personal competence. If Aaron Crow doesn’t get the All Star selection, or Holland, then there is no justice.
No. Yet somehow I find myself coming back. Like watching certain stupid YouTube videos.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT86xaR7ByE
Alex Gordon is a bad man
by tiquanunderwear on Jul 2, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Of all things that could have been.. that really wasn't all that bad.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 2, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It gets me everytime...
Alex Gordon is a bad man
by tiquanunderwear on Jul 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup is in
We’ll give Mike Moustakas some pitches to see by batting him in front of Alcides Escobar
and we’ll randomly promote Francoeur back to cleanup to face a RHP!
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Chairman, The Melky Cabrera Seasoning Sauce. It's great on your outfield!
alcides is Derek Jeter circa 1998
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
by Crooow on Jul 2, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Prediction--
Davies gives up 8 runs in five innings, but also hits two grand slams to tie it before leaving with a torn labrum.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 2, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Any way we can actually get this to happen?
MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?
can he play 2nd base?
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Chairman, The Melky Cabrera Seasoning Sauce. It's great on your outfield!
Will he match Chris Getz's offer
of two horny sisters to Ned Yost?!??!?!?
Alex Gordon is a bad man
by tiquanunderwear on Jul 2, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Davies 4 runs in 6.1 innings, 2 were given up by relief pitcher named Coleman.
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
a prediction
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
Davies takes a no hitter into the 6th inning, doesn't get the win.
"That's fine wood from... somewhere."
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
now, I can totally see this, KIC
Davies camps in the rockies for a few days, meets his spirit animal after eating some shrooms, smokin some herb, and sitting on a mountainside from 3pm – 11pm and coming down with a decent level of control with his fastball.
"An American Tale...that’s traumatic as hell. All those scenes when he’s like so close to reuniting with his parents…that’s like SAW for a six year old." -- Will McDonald
The entire Rockies team collapses from previously undiagnosed congenital heart defects before the first pitch
causing them to forfeit. We are blessed with another six days of Davies-free baseball.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 2, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I see a classic davies start coming
Through three, he will have given up one run with a few strike outs and a lot of hard outs. People will start to say he looks good, he will give up 3 the next two innings and leave with 5 innings, 4 earned, 8 hits a few walks and 95 pitches. Davies has perfected the “well, he wasn’t good but he kept us close” start.
But hey we GOTTA get him back in the rotation, he has only been shitty his whole career but maybe when he hits 800 innings he will figure it out!
by LimaTime10 on Jul 2, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well why the fuck not!
Try some new shit for more epic failure.
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 2, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Time to move on
Cut him, eat the salary, move on, he’s never going to get it.
If the Royals
Get swept by the Padres and the Rockies, it’s gotta be a new low point to which we will refer in future hard times. That’s pretty friggin nasty.
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