Royals Roll Past Indians, 12-0
by Freneau on Jul 29, 2011 10:50 PM EDT
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PrintWe're used to watching these games, just not with the Royals winning.
I was under the impression that Carlos Carrasco was kinda good, although he certainly didn't look it tonight. The Royals scored 7 runs off of the former Philly in 3+ innings, and probably should have had more.
The offensive heroes:
- Billy Butler: two more home runs, pushing him up to 12 on the season. Possible team leader?
- Alex Gordon: home run, double. This was the awesome Butler-Gordon lineup core we all imagined in 2007.
- Melky: grand slam. The cliche is to write, "that'll up his trade value!" But I hate that pat line, because it just isn't true. Any GM dumb enough to change a trade value off of one at bat is also probably thinking, "oh, he hit his grand slam now, not for me!" Gambler's fallacy cuts both ways.
- Escobar went 3-4, including two doubles, ending a bit of a quiet slump.
- Francoeur had two hits and a walk.
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This was a definite shocker
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 29, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
it's like seitzer lifted a ban on hitting homerun
I am probably the only Royals fan in Hong Kong?
by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Jul 29, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
When I got home and saw the score, I thought someone had slipped me a Jeffrey.
by BeauJackson on Jul 29, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You were petting the walls?
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Player of the game?
Butler or Francis?
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 29, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Butler
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 30, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lee Judge's moronic points system says Butler is fourth behind Francis, Gordon and Melky
What a boob.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Lee Judge - at the scary intersection of Ron Polk and anonymous scouts
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 30, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
It is like, all of a sudden, Butler remembered that he is supposed to be a power hitter.
And
I would have loved to see him maul Carrasco
seriously that was the most disappointing part of my night
Got off work in time to watch maybe 10 minutes before that at bat and left for dinner about 10 minutes later and when I saw that I pitch I thought I had gotten the jackpot of watching the first big brawl of the season for us.
And then billy just kinda stalked around home plate like an angry cat. I wanted a bullrush dammit!
"We don’t have guys with a long history of being effective in the seventh and eighth innings."
~Trey Hillman, master of understatements.
by RoyalPug on Jul 30, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think that if he would have been hit, it would have been on.
Frenchy would remained real vocal, but would have been paralyzed from doing anything because he only can hit defenseless teammates who have walk-off hits. Aviles and Davies would have each shanked someone based on frustration alone.
well, it is a long way to run, all the way out to the pitcher's mound
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Best shape of his life.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 30, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
13 12 11 good days…
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
by Royal Kingdom on Jul 30, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yup yup
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 30, 2011 8:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Missed this game and the opportunity to share self-righteous outrage at Carrasco with the rest of you.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Jul 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
He justnearly killed butler
No biggie
by Freneau on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's hoping that the Tigers liked the look of Francis dominating the Indians
If they really are out of the Ubaldo sweepstakes, maybe that’d like a consolation prize. But I’ve been down this road with Moore before. Teams were interested in Ron Mahay. Mahay was pitching well. It was just a question of what Moore would get for him…and then he didn’t. Please do the right thing, Dayton. These pitchers really aren’t worth more to the Royals than they are to other teams.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
Moore said from the beginning that Mahay was not available
That was a stupid decision, but I don’t think it parallels the situation with Francis this year.
I don't know
I think Moore said publicly the same things he says publicly every year in July. “We really like this team and we’re not looking to move anybody. If we get a great deal, we’ll evaluate it seriously, but we don’t feel like we have to trade anybody.”
I remember that trade deadline and there were lots of rumors about teams being interested in Mahay. I don’t remember Moore coming out and specifically saying that the Royals were not going to trade Mahay under any circumstances. I have a feeling he said the same kinds of things he recently said about the possible trade return not being enough and how the pitcher(s) are more valuable to the Royals.
It seems likely to me now that multiple players who should be traded for whatever Moore can get for them will not be traded. We’ll see how many this weekend.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember last year...
Dayton was wheeling and dealing all our pointless crap for a bunch of “prospects” and younger yet mostly ineffective major league guys. We were all celebrating, calling dm a genius and carrying on as such. As it turns out, what we got in return for our pointless crap, was a bunch of pointless crap…and Tim Collins. Fresh Prince might make it as a boarderline contributor, but that is doubtful. So I guess we came out ahead, but only marginally. If he can’t net anyone who could actually make any real impact, it would be stupid to trade Francis. All the Lucas Mays in the aren’t worth the agony which is 2 months of SOS and M&M (that’s mendoza & marzaro for those of you unfamiliar with omaha slang )
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 3:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure the vast majority of these guys are borderline prospects who probably won't pan out
But collecting borderline prospects in the hopes that one turns into something makes more sense than keeping stopgap players who will soon be gone anyway.
I’d rather have the lottery tickets. Fans who can’t handle the “agony of two months” of whatever don’t have the patience to be Royals fans. Rebuilding hurts. Deal with it.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
i am really surprised
by the lack of activity by the royals…there are a number of players at AAA or in the bullpen who could step in so we could find out a little bit about them this year, and we’re really not winning anything anyway, so some trades should happen and need to happen.
Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
--Albert Einstein
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jul 30, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Moore is dead set to win 70 games this year
Because, you know it's really important.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this is true by any circumstance
I think we want to keep Melky for next year. And I doubt anyone is offering anything worth a shit for french fry, so holding out is his best option. If Cain (and gia for that matter) doesn’t start from the get go next year, then we have a problem. But they won’t rot if we keep them there this for what’s left of this season (although getz is rotting as we speak) so no to make a move just to make a move
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And the difference between frenchy and cain
Or getz and gia for the remainder of the season, shouldn’t effect our win total too significantly either positively or negatively. DM is into saber, so he knows this as well.
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
DM is into saber, so he knows this as well
I just laughed so hard I spit cereal and milk all over my computer.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His track record strongly suggests that he doesn't care about advanced statistics
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No, I think he is intelligent, but intellectually incurious. And because of that, I think he greatly undervalues sabermetrics. His actions as a GM show that. HIs comments on various stats show that.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
no to make a move just to make a move
No, you make a move to improve the team for next year and beyond. Keeping players to help the team for the next two months is pure stupidity.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
We have dull pebbles
Our outfielders are 6th or 7th options compared to guys like Pence. Same with Francis compared to available pitchers.
I’d also say that a lack of leaks from the Royals isn’t the same as a lack of activity. The Royals run a pretty tight ship as far as information goes.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That's Don Horace
Used to play Don Ho covers at Trader Vics in Crown Center.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Moore has been able to trade the 6th, 7th or 10th options before
Remember last year when he traded Pods, Ankiel and Farnsworth. If he’s willing to trade these guys, there’s a market for them. He just has to be willing to trade them for the modest return they are worth (which is more than the value they give to the Royals).
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
To who, Scott?
Who are the contending teams who want them?
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't know
Ask Dutton. Moore runs a tight ship, you know.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
We all know who the contenders are. Who’s a match for a Royals outfielder?
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
All of the teams rumored to be negotiating for Pence, but didn't get him
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Delusional
If you were a GM would you choose Melky or Frenchy over BJ Upton or Marlon Byrd?
And what is the chance that the Braves (one of the key teams looking for an OF) would trade for Melky or Frenchy?
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If you were a GM would you choose Melky or Frenchy over BJ Upton or Marlon Byrd?
I’d rather have a billion dollar mansion than a two-bedroom house, but the mansion is too expensive. Some teams aren’t willing to give up their top prospects for Upton or Byrd. The price is too high for them. So they go for a more affordable option. Why did the Dodgers and Braves trade for Pods and Ankiel? Because they thought they were spectacular players? Or because they filled a need at a price they were willing to pay?
And what is the chance that the Braves (one of the key teams looking for an OF) would trade for Melky or Frenchy?
Don’t know. Do you?
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure
I’d say as a pretty iron clad rule that the Braves aren’t going to trade anything of value for a guy they released or a guy that they traded for Ryan Church.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
I don’t think it is iron clad though. I think if they want to upgrade their team, they’ll do what they can afford.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's think this through
Braves are in on Bourn, Pence, Byrd, Quentin…and they end up with Frenchy.
The Atlanta fans would be burning Frank Wren in effigy.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think Wren is going to make his final decision based on how he thinks the fans will react? Look, I’m not saying it is going to happen. I’m just saying ruling out the Braves is jumping to an unwarranted conclusion…or just guessing.
And then there are the other teams looking for OF help. Sometimes teams go bargain shopping, such as the Gomes trade a week or two ago.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Tigers got Fister
Fister >>> Francis.
That’s the problem in a nutshell.
by BlueEyes_Austin on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
So they now have the 1,2 punch of
Fister/Furbush. This just made my year.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They traded Fister to get Furbush
So they aren’t on the same team :(
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Other way around.
I guess they’re all about Hygene
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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice game
The power bats break out and Frankie pitches a shutout. Everybody scored a run but Hosmer. Totally classless move by Carrasco, throwing at Billy’s head. Good thing they didn’t have a fight because someone might have gotten hurt. On the other hand, it might have been Getz, so there are arguments either way.
Odds on Dayton making no more trades: Even money. If someone goes I bet it’s Soria; somebody desperate will pay a ton for him.
Keep Melky. Trade Frenchy. Make Getz go away. Bring up Cain and Giavotella. Ship most of the starting pitchers somewhere else.
"LaPorta and Hafner gave Boom Boom a beating
Just three weeks later he was back on the mound
He gave up six runs in five innings at Kaufmann
And the blogs all demanded he should be sent back down" --Not Warren Zevon
I'd Be OK
With a year of Melky, Cain and Gordon in the OF, or maybe trade Melky at the deadline in 2012. Frogger is pointless. His best possible outcome is likely to be sup-par. I think we’ll need a FA OF to fill out a contending team in 2013.
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by philofthenorth on Jul 30, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Giving up on Myers?
Honestly, wouldn’t blame you. He seems to be fizzling out. I was excited when he was a catcher, now I think we may have overhyped him a bit.
I like Melky, Melky likes playing here. If we have a need for an OFer in 2013, I wouldn’t mind if we resign him. I think Cain will be golden, so frenchy should go do something else
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Will might be 2 years away. Melk seems like a viable option until then
Or until Cheslor learns right field
by KCTiger on Jul 30, 2011 2:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Our mouse learns rf
The Alex Gordon path to success
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
moose learns rf
might as well be mouse…SLAM! BUTT-DU-DUT!
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Would it be possible (I don't know) for a guy who was primarily . . .
. . . a catcher, to have his hitting timing somehow thrown off by seeing fewer pitches from switching defensive positions? I doubt it, but if anyone knows, please advise.
really from switching from catcher, where he'd see a ton of pitches . . .
. . . even though it would not involve actual batting at the time.
I hear converted catchers have a bad track record
Never seen the research, but if it’s true, you could be onto something
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
See Biggio, Craig.
Not all converted catchers fail. It may just be a couple years in the minors for Myers. I’m not worried.
I need to go take a Davies and wipe my Elarton. Excuse me.
by royaldaddy on Jul 30, 2011 2:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Good point, I may be wrong here
To lazy right now to look into
by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on Jul 30, 2011 2:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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by BHWick on Jul 30, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If catching really helped catchers hit,
Wouldn’t that positions overall numbers be a bit more tolerable?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
by Warden11 on Jul 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm slowly coming around to the idea of Melk becoming an option for the next two or more years.
Frenchy…no thanks.
by KCTiger on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but who will provide the leadership of hitting team mates in the nads after walk-offs?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jul 30, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
We need more nad shots across the board.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Less milk, more nad shots.
I believe Tony Muser said that.
by kansasjohn on Jul 30, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know I should be celebrating
but I have a dry humor.
Am currently listening to Temple of the Dog; Four Walled World,
It is soothing my Royal fandom, and self.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jul 30, 2011 2:44 AM EDT reply actions
I'm going to take some more credit for this team doing well.
I was at the game on the 19th (great start by Duffy) and I was talking to some random fan who was of course complaining about Billy Butler. “He sucks” Of course he does, fella. Anyway, I said, exact words, “He’s about a 4 game HR streak from having a great year, really” and i meant it too. I figured something like that would get all the SLG numbers in place, and of course they’re HR, and you know that chicks love the long ball.
Nick Swisher is handsome.
Yup all 30 of us thank you
Cheers!
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 30, 2011 8:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Love that our bullpen ran onto the field first
we need Tim Collins and Blake Wood to gain an advantage over their fielders during a fight.
Carrasco doesn’t exactly seem like the sort of guy who can handle himself in a fight with a larger guy.
And Carrasco might be starting for Cleveland in KC on Friday in 4 weeks, depending on how things shake out. Which means it’s the best shot to see a guaranteed fight at a home game.
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by BHWick on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
must trade for Farnsworth for this
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by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Jul 30, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
They allow returns on trades?
Can we send him back on Saturday?
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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe I missed this game.
The one night I have to work late this week, and I miss lighting up Cleveland for 12 runs. I ran the numbers, and for the game the team had a combined average of .381 with a slugging percentage over .800, which would be a good number for OPS.
Apropos of nothing
This season Kyle Davies has thrown 671 strikes and 508 balls.
The Indians’ announcer accused Melky of admiring his grand slam for too long, thus provoking Carrasco’s retaliation against Billy. I don’t buy it; I think he was angry and frustrated and wanted to hurt somebody.
I vote that the Röyals retaliate against them in the last game of the series, and that Kyle Dävies should be the man who does it, because he might get hurt in the fight, and if he gets suspended we don’t lose anything. He can always claim that he has trouble finding the plate even on his good days, and cite the above statistic.
"LaPorta and Hafner gave Boom Boom a beating
Just three weeks later he was back on the mound
He gave up six runs in five innings at Kaufmann
And the blogs all demanded he should be sent back down" --Not Warren Zevon
by Juancho on Jul 30, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
or we can have Frenchy let go of his bat towards him
they might rage at first, but then his grin would pacify them
“THIS FUCKER NEARLY KILLED ME……. can I get his autograph?”
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by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Jul 30, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Naw, a medium-speed fastball in the ass
Let’s not sink to Carrasco’s level. Don’t want no concussions. Maybe after Davies gets thrown out of the game we can bring in Mazzaro and he can hit the next guy in the ass. That would make a statement. A pretty stupid statement, but a statement none the less.
Ned is an old-school guy. The Royals lead the AL in sacrifice bunts, are tied for first in stolen bases, and are tied for second in caught stealing (this may be the reason the Royals are playing three games under their pythag: Ned is small-balling us out of big innings). You’d think he’d be in favor of sticking one in somebody’s ear. Well, lower back, anyway.
"LaPorta and Hafner gave Boom Boom a beating
Just three weeks later he was back on the mound
He gave up six runs in five innings at Kaufmann
And the blogs all demanded he should be sent back down" --Not Warren Zevon
Paulino
Should be the one to get the payback. That’s a big boy they’d have to charge.
And Adcock was the first one out of the pen…just sayin
by scottchief on Jul 30, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Paulino hit two in a row his last start
He can do it again.
by OnixConcepcion on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
we had friends come into town last night, so I didn't see it until the 7th inning
I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Did anyone get tossed from the game? How close was it to Billy’s melon?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
It was reeeaaaalllly close.
If butler didn’t duck last second he might of had a concussion
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 30, 2011 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Couldhave been even eorse
It was a fastball at his head
by Freneau on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you know it was great that Billy hit all those homers..
except hes on my opponetnts team this week.. Im getting spanked as usual
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by Mas Cervezas on Jul 30, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I had the foresight to sit Carrasco this week
this would have made my last place in ERA and WHIP more solid
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
The MLB Network
spent a lot of time looking at the Butler bean ball. The more I see it, the more egregious it looks. If Billy’s a half second slower ducking out of the way, his season is over. At least. Carrasco must be nad punched. At least.
Or Kirby Puckett
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by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jul 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"This was the awesome Butler-Gordon lineup core we all imagined in 2007."
Best. System. Ever.
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That's because we have to keep this competitive rotation together.
And naked BP gets you like 93 polk points so we can’t trade Frenchy.
Melky can’t be traded because Cain really needs more PAs in the minors, I mean he’s had so few
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I hope.
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by Scott McKinney on Jul 30, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Starter?! Starter?!
Starters: plural
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by Mas Cervezas on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Alaska State
Whine.
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