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#Royals clearing space for C Salvador Perez by asking release waivers on RHP Kyle Davies.

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SO RIGHT

I am probably the only Royals fan in Hong Kong?

by Yamfun Cheng Kamfun on Aug 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

Just coming here to post this.

Also – what Jack said!

by Gross(est) on Aug 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

and there was much rejoicing

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.

by Jack Marsh on Aug 10, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

WILSON BETEMIT = RATINGS

by JobDDT on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And just like that

Scott’s ranting is rendered moot.

by BlueEyes_Austin on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Can't be

They said on the broadcast just a couple of days ago that one thing you know about DM and the scouting staff is that they make a stop at AAA meaningful and NEVER rush prospects.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he stopped there!

Even had a couple of meals there too.

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by Scott McKinney on Aug 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Alliteration for everyone!!

But seriously, I wouldn’t mind the Royals player dev philosophy (whatever it is) quite so much if they weren’t just so damned inconsistent about applying it and full of shit when talking about it.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

everything would be better if they were just more dogmatic and mechanical.

by deezle on Aug 10, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lovely spin

If you wish to think of applying a plan consistently as being mechanical….well good for you. Good luck with that.

As for dogmatic, I’d rather they not say anything than say one thing and do another. If you like having your team’s leaders look like idiots for making their plans public and then not following it, then enjoy.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spin?

Are you not arguing that every prospect, no matter their individual skills, personality, and talent, should be handled in the same manner?

LOL at the last comment. Moore looks like an idiot because we don’t win baseball games, not due to a promoting prospects unevenly.

by deezle on Aug 10, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...Spin.

Rather than talking about my comment, you decided to distill it down to a couple of words you thought would make it look bad. Spin.

And no, I am not arguing that every prospect should be handled in exactly the same manner. However, I DO think that the idea of having a player prove himself at each level before promotion is a pretty good guide. I think it’s pretty hard to argue that Perez has done that. While other players languish because they just “aren’t ready”. It’s nonsense.

LOL at your last comment as well. Silly deezle thinking there is only reason DM looks like an idiot.

It’s all good tho bro.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do I
However, I DO think that the idea of having a player prove himself at each level before promotion is a pretty good guide.

A. Moore does do that already for the most part, but
B. Occasionally unique situations will occur that call for change of plans.

If Moore was promoting duds left and right who came up and fell on their face, I would give your point a bit more credence. But while Moore certainly has his faults, I think this new rallying cry doesn’t have much substance. The players that you say are languishing are doing so because they don’t have a place to play. Cain would be up here on opening day if he could don the tools of ignorance.

by deezle on Aug 10, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say that he hasn't had much in the way of prospect to handle

over his first few years with KC. This particular promotion is highly suspect imo. It’s a break from what we’ve been told the plan is. If it’s just for a couple of days, it’s a questionable decision. If it’s longer than that, it could be disasterous. Only time will tell I guess.

Agree to differ…

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is an odd comment.
I wouldn’t mind the Royals player dev philosophy (whatever it is) quite so much if they weren’t just so damned inconsistent about applying it…

What if the player development philosophy is “we’re going to make every decision on a case-by-case basis.” If so, they may be following that philosophy with perfect consistency.

by kcemigre on Aug 10, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

But I don’t think 12 games in AAA is enough to rpove a guy is ready when your organizational philosophy is proclaimed to be that AAA matters. I’m not saying every player should spend exactly the same ammount of time at each level. I’m saying that it’s inconsistent to consider Perez ready after 12 games there while a player like Cain has been successful at both AAA and MLB and can’t buy a callup.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's inconsistent when you need one posistion player called up

yet have to many of another….

So in your house you buy 6 bottles of ketchup instead of just one since you get 6 rolls of toilet paper in a package? I mean you are only using one roll at a time right?

I admire your passion for wanting Cain to be here…but sorry…No room at the inn…..

That’s not inconsistency, that’s called baseball. Just like we have too many pitchers, we need to get rid of the worst one to free up space to call up another catcher so we don’t have to send St. Maier behind the plate one night in case of an injury.

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by kd_in_kc on Aug 10, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm no

It’s inconsistent to call up one prospect after 12 games in AAA while others with a much better track record are not called up.

This issue of need is completely overblown. Pena is going home for the birth of a child. It’s not like he’s freaking injured. He should be expected to be back in a day ot two. That’s baseball. Pina can catch for teh next 2 games. And in the unlikely event he gets hurt…put a freaking mask on Mitch for a couple of innings and deal with the need after the game. We’re 18 games under .500. If we lose one due to not having an available catcher…it’s not exactly the end of the world.

If Sal is only coming up for a couple of games, then fine. It’s not a great decision, but it’s livable. My fear is that they’ll decide that now that he’s here, he’s staying. No matter what the right decision is for his development.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So again....

“If we lose one due to not having an available catcher…it’s not exactly the end of the world.” ok, …so having Salvador Perez come up for the rest of the season is going to ruin his MLB Career????

How only coming up for a couple game is not a great decision if he’s the next catcher in line?

Lets you forget: batted .333 in 12 games with 10 RBIs in AAA (and batting .448 in the last 7 games), AFTER hitting for .283 for the Nats….

yep terrible decision....Sal Perez will be ruined

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by kd_in_kc on Aug 10, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple

but he also gave up a few to tutor local Omahans in math AND Spanish. He was clearly on the Moustakas Plan for Prospect Development.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 10, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

All your posts last night about Perez

Are right-when you promote a kid based on organizational need rather than his own development timeline it’s a bad move. The Process should be called The Wave now if this is how DM is going to operate.

The reason it’s so cathartic to get the news that Davies, Kendall and Betancourt aren’t going to be on the team anymore is that Davies’ 3.2mil this year, Kendall’s 6mil deal and the Yuni trade were such terrible moves in the first place. Losing these guys, by choice or by injury, does not make up for the incompetence that brought them here.

by thelaundry on Aug 10, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously.

This news makes it all better.

"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.

by timlacy on Aug 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, we're down to a 5-man rotation again?

Or are we bringing back SOS or Vinny or promoting Monty? (or, heaven help us, Luis Mendoza)

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by cmkeller on Aug 10, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Better that they experiment with Mendoza now (if they must at all)

than next year

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because you know - two no hitters so far in the season

a 2.26 ERA after 119 innings is really shitty….how dare he pitch in our organization….

(And I know one no hitter was later changed, but only after the cardinals organization complained and bitched)

I see no reason to have Mendoza in the Royals organization

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by kd_in_kc on Aug 10, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with getting on that bandwagon.

Mendoza is depth, that’s it. He’s been in the major leagues and sucked really bad. He’s a typical AAAA pitcher. Doesn’t strike people out in AAA, but gets them to pound it in the ground. Won’t fly in majors.

by hawkinscm87 on Aug 10, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mendoza's current season in Omaha

is an intriguing curiosity, but we’ve already seen that he can’t get major leaguers out.

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by cmkeller on Aug 10, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's had a good year and might deserve a shot in Sept. But lets be real here

He’s a 27 year old non-prospect with a sketchy history in the minors who doesn’t strike anyone out. Yeah, I’d rather it happen in this lost season than next year.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's a sure thing.

I’m not saying he’s golden. I’m saying there is merit to have a pitcher in AAA that has been effective this year try and come back in September or be a starting rotation guy in ST next and see how he fairs.

At worst he flames out, we are done with him in the organization and he doesn’t take up a spot for another prospect in AAA next year.

But you don’t know what would happen until you put him back in an MLB situation.

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by kd_in_kc on Aug 10, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with letting him take the ball in September

Lord knows we have enough suck in our rotation this year to tolerate his presence. My point is that if we’re going to buy the lottery ticket…buy it now.

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were?

Who’d we drop before releasing Kyle?

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by cmkeller on Aug 10, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't remember that

I thought he just skipped one start, but was still on the 25-man

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by cmkeller on Aug 10, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about Perez in the majors too much.

Wait and see what happens when Pena returns

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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 10, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Royals have already told people in the media...

that when Pena comes back, Pina will be sent back down to AAA or AA. I think the speculation is that when rosters expand Sept. 1, Treanor will be added back.

Also, it appears likely that Pena’s baby caused all of this. Royals were forced to make a 40 man roster move, and since they were probably planning on bringing Perez up for a cup of coffee, they went ahead and did it now.

by hawkinscm87 on Aug 10, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

another thought

Treanor’s concussion must be worse than we thought. It’s been over the seven day requirement for the concussion, and the Royals say they want to send Treanor on a rehab assignment. Pina probably will get his job back at AAA when Pena returns. Treanor must be a few weeks away at the earliest, and by that time, Perez’ AAA season would have been over anyway. As he wasn’t a member of the 40 man roster, he would not have been an ideal September call-up. But DM needed to get him on the 40 man soon, and the necessity revealed itself w/ the birth of BP’s child. I’m shocked it was Davies let go though, however much I approve of that.

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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 10, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

It’s the same thing that happened with Kendall.

by BlueEyes_Austin on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

heard that

on the last test Treanor passed 8 of 10 requirements to return

so I’m guessing they will at least keep him down for a week or so until they figure out what to do with him and Pena back

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by BHWick on Aug 10, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly...

…how does one rehab from a concussion? It isn’t like a muscle or joint injury, where you rebuild the anatomical strength over time.

I’m no doctor, so feel free to correct me if you know more about this than I do… but I assumed that the concussion DL is mostly to take guys out of play and observe them to make sure there isn’t an issue. So far, Treanor has not passed the cognitive testing* that they’re doing, so he has yet to prove there isn’t an issue and must stay out… right?

 * It is cognitive testing, right?

by kcemigre on Aug 10, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cognitive testing

in regards to memory and overall brain function. There are physical tests as well, mind you, where Treanor would have to prove that he is able to run, catch, throw, etc. without dizziness or pain.

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by Dr. van Strijcker on Aug 10, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to a good friend of mine who is a trainer
Usually rest. Brain has to reduce activity. No driving, texting, computer, facebook, movie watching, etc, etc.

Interesting though- 2 of the more concussion research based groups (UNC Chapel Hill, and Univ of Pittsburgh- UPMC) are looking into medications to assist with healing and some rehabs exercises. More hand eye motor skills. Looking into the relationship with vestibular system (eyes, ears, etc) to help with increased recovery time.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 10, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Concussion return to play rules are very specific (depending on which rule set you follow, of course)

Most of them revolve around a step-wise return to play. Most players will be started on this regimen once their cognitive function has returned to normal (determined by comparing to prior testing).

1) First, you have to go at least 24 hrs without any symptoms whatsoever while doing absolutely nothing (and believe me, most people cannot do NOTHING all day long (i.e. no TV, no internet/computer, no books, just lay there and sleep all day).

2) Begin with light activity (walking/light job) – at least 24 hrs symptom free

3) Heavier activity (running, light weights) – same

4) Light sport-related activities (throw and catch, running)

5) Heavier sport-related activities (batting, etc.)

And so on, and so forth. Granted, these are adapted from football, where the lines are more clear-cut. Failing a level would mean having symptoms (headaches, vision changes, difficulty focusing, etc.). If you fail a level, you go back down one and start again.

Therefore, at minimum, most concussions take ~1 week to return to play. Or at least they should in a reasonable world where we actually give a crap about the health of the player in question. And yes, I’ve had bitter discussions with parents who think you’re crazy to hold their player out of a game before…

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by Royals Medic on Aug 11, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

…a catching prospect who has not drawn a walk in AAA…

Will you settle for a HBP?

by kcemigre on Aug 10, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Putting those blocking the plate skills to use

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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 10, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Davies thing is odd, but isn't he injured or at least "injured"

So they think he can pass through waivers. Then if he does, he can be brought back when Duffy reaches the innings limit. And if he gets claimed/traded, then they can promote someone else, with little lost.

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davies cannot be "brought back"

He was put on irrevocable waivers. The end result here is either Davies becomes a free agent or he gets claimed by another team.

by Gopherballs on Aug 10, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

manny was placed on irrevocable waivers in boston...

and was there for another 3 or 4 years. it just means if another team claims him, they get him.

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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But can't he be signed/brought back to the minors, assuming no one claims him?

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

But you don’t typically put someone on release waivers if you want them back, you put them on outright waivers IIRC. What would be the point of putting him in AAA anyway? He’s a FA in two months.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this is my conspiracy-ish theory.

They said “Well, Kyle, we’re going to have to release you b/c we need a C on the 40-man. Buuuut, we’ll release-waiver you so that you can quickly go to another team if anyone wants you*. And since we’re being so nice, we urge you to consider an option where you re-sign here, go to AAA to rehab, then come back up in September when Duffy is shut down b/c of his innings limit.” I’m thinking about this too much aren’t I? (or too little)

*this sentence is a theory addendum based on talking with you all about the actual waiver situation

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it took trading Greinke

To get Yuni out of KC and calling up Sal Perez a year early to get Hiram off the roster?

What can we do to get rid of the Glasses, Dayton and Ned?

by thelaundry on Aug 10, 2011 12:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I felt bad for Davies when I heard this...

Until I realized he’s made more than I will in my lifetime while torpedoing my favorite baseball team in the process… Then I didn’t feel bad for him anymore.

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by KU Chief on Aug 10, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

2 happiest days of the year

Hosmas

Perezapalooza/wavy davies day?

by billski8 on Aug 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dayton Moore is like a kid at Christmas

(in a bad way)

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by Royal Kingdom on Aug 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish I could tell

How you people feel about this.
Getz out, Davies gone. Dreams do come true.

by LaFLamme on Aug 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

And August 10 will forever be known, in Royals lore, as...

…VKD Day—-Victory over Kyle Davies Day.

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by timlacy on Aug 10, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

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by tiquanunderwear on Aug 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He's better than Chen

But whatever. At least this 6 man BS is done with.

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by kcbottom9th on Aug 10, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree with the move, and I thank Hosmer for the recent riches we've received,

but doesn’t releasing Davies fuel the argument that the Royals DON"T care about advanced statistics, despite the recent information saying they do? I’m not arguing at all that Davies deserved a spot on the MLB roster any longer, but the guy had a 4.42 xFIP and 4.21 SIERA – numbers that aren’t far removed from Hochevar. Nothing glamorous about those numbers with the cuts in offense around the league. I just feel like the Royals said ‘6.75 ERA!’ and said screw it. Which I’m fine with. There are, though, other numbers saying he still is terrible, and I really don’t care that much to try and defend Davies.

by KyleM on Aug 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No

He’s already 27 and his career FIP and xFIP, in addition to his ERA, are terrible. Yes, his ERA this year is probably not truly reflective of his talent, but he is still one of the worst pitchers in the majors.

by deezle on Aug 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davies posted a 6.75 ERA with 7.3 K/9, 3.8 BB/9 and a 38.5% ground ball rate in 61 1/3 innings this year (for what it’s worth, Davies’ xFIP this season is just 4.42 and his SIERA is just 4.21). In seven seasons with the Royals and Braves, the 27-year-old has a 5.59 ERA with 6.4 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9. He earns $3.2MM this year and was headed for free agency after the season.

by 306008 on Aug 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll probably bounce back and over perform next year

ala Philip Humber. And then DM will draw all the wrong conclusions about it.

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by sfeldkamp on Aug 10, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see Davies being useful somewhere

Maybe as a reliever, but I see him putting together a good season for someone else.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, his career 4.9 FIP is still garbage

It would be interesting to see the largest active outliers between ERA and FIP after a certain threshold, say 500 IP. Davies’ 70 bps differential has to be up there.

by deezle on Aug 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not really part of the future

I mean, neither are Chen or Francis, but they aren’t hemorraging runs like Davies is.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and I'm also done defending Davies

mostly b/c I’m not sure he’s worth defending. But as some others mentioned, he’s getting older, less healthy, and will be more expensive next season and the season after.

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone explain

the “unconditional release waivers” concept to me. Where does Davies go from here? Is he just a man without a country for a while?

by LaFLamme on Aug 10, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this when

he has 10 days to accept his demotion or the option to become a MILB FA? Just losses his 40 spot? Not sure.

by 306008 on Aug 10, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He immediately becomes a FA

Anyone can claim him off waivers and accept his salary for the rest of the year. If he clears waivers, he can sign with anyone.

But as far as the Royals are concerned, he is no longer in the organization. I suppose he could re-sign a minor league deal and go to Omaha, but I doubt that happens.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is not immediately a FA

Don’t know why I wrote that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

outright vs. release waivers

For release waivers, the player is just released if he clears waivers. If he is claimed, he actually has the right to reject the claim and become a free agent, but if he does so, he forfeits his salary (which is why players rarely reject them).

For outright waivers, the player (depending on his service time) may have the option of accepting a minor league assignment or choosing free agency.

by Gopherballs on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he clears

We release him. If he’s claimed, that team gets him.

Edgar knows best.

by kcbottom9th on Aug 10, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confusing

In this context, “waivers” starts to sound like some Dr. Suess machine Davies has to tumble through to learn his fate.

by LaFLamme on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would pay a subscription fee

for a website that illustrated MLB’s crazy waiver, service time, arbitration, etc. rules with Dr. Suess animations. Somebody should get on this.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 10, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we're gonna do something awesome with Jesse Chavez's 40 man spot, right?

because if Davies isn’t hurt for the rest of the year, he’ll be of more use than Jesse Chavez having a 40 man spot and pitching one inning in KC for the entire year.

Unless we’re working on an awesome list of “players we got rid of to keep Jesse Chavez around”

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by BHWick on Aug 10, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Fantastic news!

This is a turning point in Royals history…a start of a new era. Maybe Moore IS learning.

As far as Perez, he’s not being promoted because he’s ready, but for an actual need on the MLB club. Plus, it is his defensive skill set that makes him a decent prospect. He can hit like Escobar for all i care if he amounts to anything somewhat special defensively

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 10, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Close the book on the Octavio Dotel deal

Octavio Dotel with Atlanta -0.1 WAR
Kyle Davies with Kansas City 0.7 WAR

DAYTON WINS!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Its funny

I did the “did the Mets get a better deal for Beltran than we did 7 years ago” post without even considering the “did the Blue Jays get a better deal for Octavio Dotel than the Royals did 4 years ago” post.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt a team would claim him due to the salary

but once he clears waivers, I would not be surprised if a contender with a shaky bullpen signs him quickly.

A week ago, I would have bet a couple Schrute bucks that the Pirates would claim him on waivers.

by Gopherballs on Aug 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

This is bittersweet for me.

I was starting to warm up on Davies, actually. The coaching staff had finally figured out a secret to help Hoch and Davies. Mix up your pitches. And Davies got hurt again, yes, which may have something to do with it. Maybe the Royals don’t think he can be healthy for an extended period of time. That’s totally fine. But like some people, I don’t understand why they would cut bait now. After all of the chances they gave him and he failed, and they just gave him more chances—now he is coming off a game where he shut down the Red Sox at Fenway and then got hurt. Makes me think the injury is the big issue here. He showed another glimmer of light and Dayton cannot pass that up under normal circumstances.

by hawkinscm87 on Aug 10, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, kind of where I'm at.

I saw a glimmer of hope for Davies. His recent good performance was accompanied by somewhat of an explanation. I was intrigued and wanted to see him pitch some more. Now his legacy is cemented as one of the worst starting pitchers ever. I honestly hope somebody gives him a chance. Just at league minimum rather than over $3 mm.

by hawkinscm87 on Aug 10, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah Davies is like this no good girlfriend I used to have

gave me glimpses she might be “the one” but kept finding ways to screw it up. Finally had to cut bait. I hope Davies enjoys his time in the Red Sox/Phillies bullpen. His days as a starter are done.

I'm trying hard but some of this sabermetrics stuff sounds madeup.

by stram#1 on Aug 10, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dayton is a robot with no human emotions!!!
“I’ve known [Davies] since he was 17,” said Moore, “but this is just part of the game.”

by hawkinscm87 on Aug 10, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Fixed Dayton's post
"I’ve known [Davies] since he was 17," said Moore, "but Francoeur doesn’t really like his wife and kids, and this is just part of the game."

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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