Royals Release Kyle Davies
by Freneau on Aug 10, 2011 1:23 PM EDT
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Per Bob Dutton of the KC Star the Royals have released starting pitcher Kyle Davies.
Though not always a target of fan venom throughout his Royal career, Davies has struggled mightily this season, becoming a bete noire amongst many Royals chatters.
Davies was one of Dayton Moore's first acquisitions as a Royal, as he came over in a trade for Octavio Dotel in June of 2007. In 99 starts with Kansas City, Davies posted an ERA+ of 80. For a half season of Dotel (although he did have a weird Dayton-style option) Davies was a worthwhile trade piece. The Royals gave him numerous chances to succeed, and he wasn't able to do it.
Davies appeared to be on his way out of the Royals rotation at the end of last season, but in a surprise move the Royals tendered him a $3.2 million dollar contract and even kept him around as part of a pointless 6-man rotation.
The highpoint of the Davies era came in 2007, when he put up a 4.06 ERA, and was briefly part of the MGD trio (Meche-Greinke-Davies) that was to return the Royals to glory.
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I think you meant "was like for 6th starters...."
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Aug 10, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you missed the joke
Veteran lefties Jeff Francis and Bruce Chen along with right-hander Kyle Davies are drawing interest from several clubs in advance of the non-waiver trading deadline, which is 3 p.m. Central time Sunday.
All three will be free agents after the season, but only Chen seems likely to require compensation if he signs elsewhere after being offered arbitration. None are likely to generate much of a return in a trade since all project as No. 5 starters for a contender.
"Nothing has changed with our situation," general manager Dayton Moore said. "The guys we have, I think, are more valuable to us than the potential (return)."
by Gopherballs on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MGD lol
decent beer, horrifically terrible trio to lead you to glory
by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 10, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting timing, probably forced by the Perez promotion but also...
Davies injury must be worse than simple shoulder pain. The Royals have invested too much in him and said too many great things about him to just let him go for the sake of giving the catcher of the future some spot starts.
But Hiram is gone. Dayton finally cut the cord.
Waiting for April.
Agreed, the whole timing is bizarre
The organization has went out of its way to defend him in the past, and the only reason the equally bizarre 6-man rotation stopped was Davies’ injury. For them to decide they need that roster spot, through him, at this exact time, is just odd.
Jesse Chavez will never be taken off the 40 man roster
Do these effectively hide my thunder?
by splitty on Aug 10, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah seriously, there is other dead weight
Raise your hand if you could have predicted that Davies would be released before Kila…anybody?
That’s why I think Davies injury must be something serious.
Waiting for April.
Chavez may be cheaper
Davies was going to be making near 4M plus this arb cycle. Costs are probably a major reason behind the move
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 10, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The are saving that spot for when they sign Pujols this offseason
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 10, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
we will NEVER, EVER pay a guy 200 million
but we can afford to give Mark Buehrle 5 years/$55 million
Waiting for April.
hopefully they're smarter than that
oh well…buehrle wont be an issue…he’s gonna sign with stl, resign with chicago or retire
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is funny because
it’s unnecessary to sign him and also unnecessary to save an open roster spot now. They are so dumb.
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they forgot that Chavez is on the 40 man roster
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by BHWick on Aug 10, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
But, but...I was told that I could stay on the roster
as long as I pitched at a reasonable level.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 10, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yay!!
A little late but looks like GMDM is cleaning house- finally.
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Aug 10, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Next up
Clean out his desk!
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I honestly never hated Kyle Davies
and I can’t actually understand why. He was terrible, but not predictably so. That’s all I’ve got.
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by sfeldkamp on Aug 10, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Because although he sucked
I don’t think anybody has any reason to question his workrate or whatever. He just isn’t very good.
“Hate” should be reserved for those who could do better, but don’t. Davies just couldn’t, for all the will in the world.
Edgar knows best.
i didnt hate either...
he was always a better bet than our next option. i will be pissed though when he wins 15 games for stl next year though…or wherever duncan lands
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Tampa Bay bullpen
Former Royals pitchers is the new market inequality.
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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We suck in new and interesting ways!
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I never hated him either
perhaps because I didn’t feel like his being on the roster was blocking anyone worthwhile.
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
it's Chirstmas!
Davies and Getz are really the last two pieces of the team that I just can’t get behind as a fan. I’ve talked myself into Francoeur as a clubhouse guy and with Kendall being out for the season, I genuinely like the rest of the team.
Can we win the division with this team? Not yet… But they’re likable and interesting to watch at least.
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by Royals Medic on Aug 10, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you just hate that he looks like a hobbit
"Shot by my own men."
by StonewallPDS on Aug 10, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you have against Amish people?
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 10, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still don't like Melky or Fancoeur
I believe we’re in for serious regression next year from both of them, and we should’ve sold high.
by KansasCowboy on Aug 10, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It is nice that Dayton
Is finally giving the other 29 teams in baseball the opportunity to line up for Kyle’s services.
by thelaundry on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe he is a good pitcher
But the Blue Jays caught him chit-chatting during “O Canada” at the Rogers Centre back in ’07 and got their revenge by having someone tip his pitches to opposing hitters at almost every one of his starts since.
by thelaundry on Aug 10, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Do the Sox have room in the pen?
They have a pretty good bullpen right now.
I would guess the Tigers, Angels, Rangers, or Cards, maybe the Rays or Pirates (more for a taking a closer look at him than contention purposes).
Probably not
it’s just one of those premonitions. I see Kyle Davies with the red stocking on his jersey.
if someone picks him up, do the Royals receive any compensation?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
will they even ask?
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by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe just tip-toeing quietly away would be the best thing to do
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
No
although a claiming team would assumes the ~$900,000 pro rata amount of remaining salary (which is why no team will likely claim him).
so then if he passes through waivers
he can sign with any team?
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
He could. But the Royals outright releasing him suggests that he’s probably done pitching this year. Or at least until rosters lock.
Release waivers, rather than DFAing him first
actually speeds up the time for when he becomes free to sign with other teams, so it should increase the chances of him catching on with someone else. No one was trading for him, so releasing him really ends up working out as a small favor to him.
by Gopherballs on Aug 10, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hoped Scott would be in here
trashing this move. I’m working a hypothesis that Scott will hate any move Dayton makes, period. This one would have really put him to the test.
Nice to see that some others are trying to pick up for him though. Hard not to like it when we jettison expensive deadweight. Lot of gift-horse, mouth lookers on here.
by Big Guy on Aug 10, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
take a look at the thread from last night
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Those threads become completely unreadable extremely fast
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by Lum on Aug 10, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
We do it for us…not for you!
But seriously, if you’re not waste deep in a thread like that, it’s hard to get in after things have gone crazy.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 10, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Waste deep... I like it.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 10, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I had intended that
It does work well.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be threads like that or anything
It’s just hard to go into a thread like that and bother reading it all because it’s just two or three people’s conversation. It doesn’t help that SBN formats it into a tiny little section on the right hand side of the page once the replies get to a certain level.
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by Lum on Aug 10, 2011 6:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait, who in this thread has actually said that they don't like this move?
I’ve scanned the comments twice and have yet to find one comment that thinks releasing Davies is a bad idea.
Waiting for April.
i dont think it matters...
but i have a strong feeling that davies will re-emerge as an effective NL starter and make quite a career out of it. dayton gave him every shot though…so, even if he does thrive elsewhere, its not on dayton
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
anything's possible
but i would be willing to bet against you on davies becoming a successful starter. But you’re right – Davies got every shot to succeed, plus one. Releasing him now does not reflect poorly on Dayton Moore. It just reflects that after 5 years it is no longer an experiment…It’s a failure. You pack it away and move on.
Waiting for April.
he already had a shot at being a NL starter
and was brutal
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll see...it seems like im alone in the belief
that kyle davies has a lot of years and alot of millions left in his MLB career
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 10, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe not as a starter
but he’s going to continue to bounce around the league and keep getting paid.
Unless I'm wrong...
That's my feeling too.
I mean, if Jamie Wright (or is it Jamey?) can still get hired, anything’s possible.
My only problem... And its a pretty small one...
I would have liked to have seen the Royals try him in the bullpen at some point.
Minor gripe though.
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by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the shout out
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
About time. Kyle, we knew ye all too well.
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!!!
Ya, know...for the kids.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 10, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
:D
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by Mas Cervezas on Aug 10, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's telling that it's such an unexpected move for us all
that the idea that a pitcher who has proven himself to be well below league average over four years’ worth of starts would be removed to make room on the 40-man never entered our collective consciousness
I sorta called it...
…I didn’t predict a release, but did suggest, over a week ago, a move to the 60-day DL (which would accomplish the same thing as far as our roster is concerned). That was in connection with making a spot when Johnny G. was called up… but same thing, really.
I think in response to my question of who we could move to the 60-day DL
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I don't have a lot of time to post here...
…but I wanted it on the record that when I saw the news, a weird “Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!” sound came outta me.
Stunned. STUNNED.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 10, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And the Washington Redskins
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by averagegatsby on Aug 10, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Bidding Davies adieu may be a little premature.
I, for one, will not be shocked when he clears waivers and accepts assignment to Omaha, where they will promptly put him on the DL with a phantom injury, a la Robinson Tejeda.
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by Old Man Duggan on Aug 10, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
There is no outright assignment possible here
The Royals put him on release waivers, not outright waivers. If he clears, he automatically becomes a free agent.
Doesn't anybody read their personal copy of the MLB rules anymore?
Stupid rules...
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by Old Man Duggan on Aug 10, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Trying to keep the man down
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by Mas Cervezas on Aug 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are they going with
a 17-man rotation?
by Black and Gold on Aug 10, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He will always be able to say he gave up A Rod's 500th.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 10, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
As fans
We’ve been excited so often this season, you’d think we were behind a contending team. I’d bet that fans of playoff-bound teams don’t have as much fun as we do when dead weight gets cast off and glimmers of the future come shining through.
by Mark LaFlamme on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Okay, now I get it.
Disregard above. La la la la la…
by Mark LaFlamme on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
“bete noire”?
seriously?
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Wait, what's that?
I wrote a story by that title decades ago, but I don’t believe it makes an appearance in Box of Lies. Maybe you’re not even addressing me. In which case, I’m babbling about nothing at all.
by Mark LaFlamme on Aug 10, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor little Brayan Pena Jr.
will have to live his whole life knowing he was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Well, it finally happened. The MGD is all gone.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 10, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's OK
They’ve finished drinking their way through undergrad, and are started with post-grad:
PHD
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Price/Hochevar/Duffy?
We’re trading for David Price, right?
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by Lum on Aug 10, 2011 6:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure, why not throw Holliday in there, too?
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Memories.....
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Nice find.
Hundreds of us will now claim to have been part of the 8 votes for “never.”
by Black and Gold on Aug 10, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
good times
I believe I voted “after 2010”, but there is no evidence in the thread
trust me
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Ouch
At least I wanted to see how he performed over the whole 2009 season.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 10, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least the consensus seemed to be "wait until 2009 season is done"
At which point, the mirage had faded, and the 5+ FIP was very clear.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 10, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure I was one of 17 votes for never or after 2010
a little scary on Davies since the ship has sailed for everyone in terms of loving the guy
by Will McDonald on Apr 2, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey now, I’m still on the dock
Davies needs a good jump in his strikeout rate or a good drop in his walk rate, as his HR/FB rate is likely to return to normal and he does not generate many groundballs.
by Gopherballs on Apr 2, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I was one of the 219 who voted
“after 2009.” Unfortunately, there’s evidence there to prove it.
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He pointed to the offices and said 'You all know their names'
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This simply sucks.
Kyle is one dinger away from his 100th career HR allowed. They couldn’t give him one more start at home for the fans to witness this milestone?
by Black and Gold on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
P.S.
Don’t look at the rest of his career line on a full stomach. Yikes.
by Black and Gold on Aug 10, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
One start shy of his 100th start as a Royal. He ends his career 21st in franchise history in games started.
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by Royals Medic on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That factoid pretty much sums up what it was to be a Royals fan in the 2000s.
Or did we all agree to call them the Aught-aughts?
We'll always have September 2008.
Thanks for the memory, Hiram.
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