Kansas City Royals Morning Links: Bubba-geddon Dawns
Today is deadline day for Bubba Starling and the rest of the zillion guys drafted this summer. I haven't heard a single rumbling that Starling won't sign with the Royals, it really just seems to be a matter of price. Other matters included: Moose talk, minor league updates, Kila news, a classic bit from Lookout Landing, and discussions of the World War II (turns out that it might not have been the Atom Bomb that made Japan surrender) & matters up north.
Royals
- Decision day arrives for Starling, Royals - KansasCity.com
- Royally Speaking: Best Royals Infields
- Rany on the Royals: Of Moose And Men.
- Weekly Look at Top Minor League Performers | Pine Tar Press
- Following The Royals Top Prospects: 8/5-8/11 - Royals Review
- mindahaas.net " Blog Archive " This is how happy Kila looks after homering.
- Giavotella looking forward to seeing hero | royals.com: News
Baseball:
- Ted Williams and perception
- It Dawns On Miguel Olivo - Lookout Landing
- Pirates Will Increase Ticket Prices Next Year - Bucs Dugout
General:
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Kinda disappointed Jeter is Johnny G's hero
I was thinking someone grittier like Willie Bloomquist or George Peppard.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Why else would he use the "Jeter jump throw" as a second baseman
by spamiam79 on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate that thing
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somebody needs to shake him out of that
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George Peppard...nice answer
I used to love Banecek….when I was college, Banecek and Have Gun Will Travel came on late after Letterman…..for the mid 80s, this was the zenith of TV culture as far as I was concerned….you couldn’t spend a better 2 hours in front of the set than the Letterman/Have Gun will Travel/Banecek trio….
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He Almost Punched
Paul Williams on the set of the Tonight show, and did one armed pushups.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
love the Peppard ref.
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by setupunchtag on Aug 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what the mood is around the Royals fanbase?
Are people worried about Starling possibly not signing? Do they assume that will happen? Will there be panic at 10:45 pm CDT if no agreement has yet been announced?
Personally, I’m not worried. I think few kids would choose the back breaking uncertainty of college football over the guaranteed $8M of pro baseball.
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kids are stupid though, so we shall see
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by Lum on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess
But when you wave $8M under the nose of a stupid kid, I think he’d likely follow that wherever it might take him.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt at all that he'll sign
Esp since rpyals arent cheap anymore
by Freneau on Aug 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not worried at all
I don’t think I’ll be all that pissed if he’s somehow stupid enough to go to college. Is there any chance he get’s a bigger bonus in 3 years than he gets now? Considering possible new CBA rules on rookie compensation and the time value of money, I don’t see how he could hope to do better. Especially since I’ve been hearing 7 and even 8 million and 10 million floated as possible amounts of the bonus. I don’t see the Royals offering less than 7.
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I'd be shocked if he went to NU...
whats the upshot? KC would get a compensation pick next year? Is it worth it to root for Huskers? I didn’t like Starling as a pick…high upside, but big downside too….no idea what next year’s crop looks like, maybe it would be blessing in disguise to end up with 2 top 10 picks next year??
He signs tho. 99.9 percent I’d guess. 9 million.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
the guy we'd get at 6 next year wont be in starlings league...
he was one of the elite talents in an elite draft…colon went at 4 last year…think more along those lines than starling
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this years draft was pretty strong
compared to Colon at 4 last year. I hate that pick so much.
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I don't think the Royals fan base
would get too downcast if Bubba refuses to sign. Bubba will do what he wants to do, but Royals fans still see the Royals drafting him for talent and willing to spend quite a bit of money to land him, which is good feeling as organizational policy.
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The Royals' devoted fanbase, maybe, but as for general Kansas City sports fans
who don’t follow the team closely, there has to be a great deal of pressure. In my 15 years of following sports in Kansas City, I can’t remember any other athlete being hyped this much/having this many features in the KC Star while still in high school. There’s certainly more pressure on the Royals to sign the local boy. Joe Six-Pack in Olathe doesn’t know nor care that the Royals have gone over slot for other players or been aggressive in the Latin American market – if they don’t sign Bubba, it’s just more evidence the Royals are a cheap team that probably wants to trade all their good players to the Yankees.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a ton written about tony temple in high school
mellinger followed him around for like a month…in classes and everything
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot about him... and maybe Kareem Rush.
Still, the pressure situation is still unique because none of those players were drafted by a local team.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really think
that Joe Six-Pack will think of a $7M+ offer as being cheap? For a guy drafted not 1, 2, or 3 but 5?
I hope that’s not really true.
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Given the hype, and knowing that guys like A Rod sign for so much more,
I think there will be some pressure from some quarters to sign no matter what the price is.
While the economic situation in baseball is obviously skewed, a lot of the criticisms from people in frustrated small markets have little to no basis in fact (for example, the one about how the Royals supposedly trade all their players to the Yankees). “They wouldn’t even sign Bubba” would become one of these.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Callis at BA has been saying for weeks now
That he’ll be shocked if any first rounders don’t sign.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It seems likely that the Blue Jays won't sign their first round pick
Per Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com.
It’s “nearly certain” that the Blue Jays will not sign first rounder Tyler Beede, a right-handed high school pitcher out of Massachussets and the 21st overall pick, who will instead honor his commitment to Vanderbilt, a source tells Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com.
Could be posturing though.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF is it with Vandy and keeping their kids?
by BlueEyes_Austin on Aug 15, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
similar to rice...
and they convince many of their guys to come to school as well dont they?
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Who wouldn't want to attend a school with a history of graduating fine alumni like Jay Cutler?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i havent heard too much other than kietzman blabbering about it
with no sort of knowledge about how the signing process works in baseball for a guy that is going to be over slot. i dont think most people follow it too closely, and those that do, are confident that he’ll sign. they’ve been down this road a couple of times recently
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Star has run a couple big pieces on the negotiation
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Iggy Pops
interesting article…being a rube, wasn’t aware of the guy. However, I do feel like our “intellectual” class has gone wanting in recent decades. Perhaps anti-intellectualism and the very nature of our modern media has diminished the voice of “the expert” so to speak, but I’ve always felt that our population is chronically misinformed (present company INCLUDED), and this obviously leads to all manner of chicanery and obfuscation which serves the powerful very nicely. Lots of details, context, or outright lies and manipulation get blended into the “debate” over serious issues…which makes for some very un-serious debate. Democracy in this country is damn near dead.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
i tend to think he was a victim of circumstance
canadian politics is too fractured, especially on the left these days. not sure what the future of theliberal party is unless they merge with the NDP
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
His Meaning Iggy
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
This Is What
Happens to idiots who scan the comments without reading any of these selections. Iggy Pop’s rider is still hilarious, though.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
amen to that.
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by setupunchtag on Aug 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
do you read
the howler.com ? A journalist’s daily criticism of today’s journalism, in particular NYT and Wash Post (he is/was a Baltimore guy, I think , so he slants toward focusing on the political/D.C. side of things). Reminds me of TMQ, a bit, though generally more serious.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a big fan of Somersby and the Daily Howler
between that and Beat the Press blog by Dean Baker, you could just about pass as somewhat informed….
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have listed the link,
though if people google “Daily Howler”, that should do it
I’ll check out Beat The Press (do they also post college basketball strategy?)
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 15, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Baker/Beat the Press is even grumpier and more cynical than Somersby, but sadly....
no suggestions for beating a half court trap, let alone a full court press. He does point out the devils behind the housing bubble collapse. If you are looking for a good mix of politics and sports, I’d humbly suggest Charles Pierce (blogs for a boston paper), or if you are a flaming lefty, David Zirin at The Nation…..and FWIW, Daily Howler casts a broader net these days then NY Times or Wash Post, with MSNBC being a current bete noir….I like lefty writers who criticize “lefty” columists/talking heads/institutions…..you’ve got to police your own before you can even begin the arduous task of “debating” the non believers.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the Howler in that it's very "manageable" in a concise, phone-readable way that I can read as
I walk in to work or to/from lunch.
And you’re right, I was only thinking of the print journalism he critiques, but CNN, MSNBC, et al, get plenty of heat thrown their way as well.
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 15, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
heat they richly deserve....
I wish he could get on the sabbath gas bag circuit, or at least on some of the newsy shows….I’m just glad he’s out there doing God’s work…he was in Lincoln a few years ago and I saw him speak….he was pretty good. He was a classmate of Al Gore and Tommy Lee Jones at Harvard….or Yale, wtf is the diff?
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not worried about Bubba...
The most recent sign was Patrick Leonard, right? That leaves 7 unsigned in the top twenty:
1 Bubba Starling (OF)
3 William Brickhouse (RHP)
4 Kyle Smith (RHP)
8 Evan Beal (RHP)
12 Adam Schemenauer (LHP)
16 Jack Lopez (SS)
19 Matthew Flemer (RHP)
Are we gonna sign all those HS arms? Also, will we set a record for signing bonuses along the way?
I don't know
I don’t think they are particularly difficult signs. It doesn’t seem like the Royals drafted many guys with signability issues. Doesn’t seem like they had many opportunities to do so.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
it sounded like our 3-5 were all wanting a lot of money and were somewhat uncertain signs
though it also sounds like we’ve met their demands.
I thought things fell through with Beal and Schemenauer. I guess we’ll find out today.
5 was Leonard. So, that one's done.
I have also heard that Brickhouse and Smith are expected to sign…
I had not heard anything about Beal or Schemenauer. Thanks for the info…
I haven't heard much about these guys...
…except for general “expect them to sign” stuff.
So, I’m curious if anyone knows anything.
Also, it was a highschool-heavy draft. While I haven’t heard that any of them will be particularly hard signs (except for the misguided Bubba-talk going on here and there), I do note that all of these kids have options, which usually does cost more. So, it seems possible that the collective result is an especially large chunk of change going out the door…
Thankfully it seems like the Royals are ready to spend
I think this is true in general of the amateur draft, and probably more true than ever given their current low payroll and the Meche nest egg. FWIW, they just signed the 29th round pick for $675K.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
There were reports
Beal and Schemenauer were already headed to college.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 15, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a "Bubba Burger" last night
May God have pity on the Royals
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by tiquanunderwear on Aug 15, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
Great, more revisionist history
Anything to minimize the importance of American power in the currents of history. We didn’t defeat the Japanese in WWII, the Soviets did. American anti-communism had nothing to do with the fall of the Warsaw Pact, it was bound to happen on its own.
Just wait, soon enough we’ll be reading about how Americans didn’t win the Revolutionary War, but the British had been on the verge of giving up the colonies anyway.
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I did have some questions about that article..
it portrayed the Japanese as waiting for the best moment to strategically surrender. That doesn’t jive with my understanding that the Japanese did not believe in surrender; that doing so was unprecedented, but obviously, so was the atomic bomb.
I mean, it is possible that the Soviets coming in was the straw that broke the camel’s back (though what I’ve read about the period suggests that the bomb really did have an effect), but would they have come in at that time if not for the bomb?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not totally dismissive of his thesis
I think its quite likely that it was the bomb in concert with the Soviet declaration, and probably other factors that ultimately led to their surrender.
But I think its absurd to take the next leap, as the author seems to, and say that means nuclear weapons NOW do not have a deterrent effect. I think the horrors of WW II make it less likely that any state – save for a few rogue states like North Korea – would be willing to accept that kind of mass obliteration within their borders.
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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And while I hesitate to argue with his thesis without reading the actual book,
the article seems to ignore the fact that there is no contradiction between believing that leveling entire cities doesn’t always force surrender and still believing that nukes are a deterrent (as most non-North Korean governments are obviously going to want to do anything they can to avoid it for various reasons).
Having said that, I think it’s a mistake to really draw any conclusions about nuclear war from what happened in 1945, because it was a unique time in world history when only one nation had atomic weaponry – a situation that almost certainly will never occur again.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
the soviet entry into the pacific war was certainly significant on our side
and was one of the reasons we dropped the bomb when we did to avoid the situation we had in berlin. or so i’d heard. that doesn’t quite mesh with a USSR neutral in the pacific at the time of the bombing.
There certainly has been some debate
on how much wanting to send a message to the Soviets post-war was a factor in the US’s decision to drop the bomb. Of course, few people (if any) in the State Department anticipated how fast US-Soviet relations would deteriorate after the war.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not so much a "leap"
as it is a “take-one-step-and-fall-on-your-face” comedy of illogic.
I guess I just don’t understand the point. The Japanese leadership had proven time and time again for years and years that they just weren’t operating in the same reality as the rest of the world (non-Hitler Division, at least). Will it really be possible or useful to try to piece together exactly what was going through their minds in August 1945? If Hasegawa (or the article’s author) is doing it (even in part) to try to argue that nuclear weapons just don’t really matter, it’s a fool’s errand.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
it is unlikely that the colonies would have succeeded without french money, weapons, and navy. I wouldn’t go so far as to give full credit to them though.
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Wait, I thought he was talking about the French Revolution
They at least mostly won that one.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet, the French would never have helped us without Franklin.
Also, Franklin would never have been our liason without his popularity from his writing and experiments (such as with lightning). Lightning would not exist without ice and ice would not exist without water. Water would not exist without hydrogen which is an extremely important component to that atomic bomb.
Thus, the atomic bomb is related to our victory over the British and therefore was, at least indirectly, related to Japan surrendering.
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Do we still think we won the Revolution?
We won the American Revolution the same way the Vietnamese won the Vietnam War: we hung around long enough for our more powerful enemy to say “this sucks; it costs too much money, and it’s just not worth it.” We didn’t defeat the British in any significant way. They were not weakened by our overwhelming forces…they just got tired and left. We won the Revolution because the British let us. We should give them the credit.
From the very beginning, it was far from clear the colonists would succeed.
Especially looking at the low points like Valley Forge. I think it’s fair to give “us” credit.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we can call it a clear win because they actually surrendered on the field of battle (Cornwallis surrendering to Washington, IRRC) and then signed the Treaty of Paris.
A W is a W. Now you don’t always win because you overwhelm your enemy with greater force. The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I fail to see how that isn't a victory.
It was a war not a sporting event; there aren’t style points for dominating the opponent or bad press for barely outlasting the other team. Americans wanted to be a separate province without influence from England (at least, eventually) and we pestered the UK until that happened. They gave up because we made it difficult for them. That’s on us.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
War with Britain didn't end
until after the War of 1812 (which we lost—they burned down Washington, D.C.!). We just happened to be independent by the time it was over. We probably could have lost independence had Britain really wanted us to.
I guess we’re getting into semantics here. I’m glad they let us win, but just because you let your little brother beat you at basketball doesn’t necessarily mean he won in my book.
War with Britain didn’t end
until after the War of 1812 (which we lost—they burned down Washington, D.C.!). We just happened to be independent by the time it was over.
I’m going to disagree with you there. I think there was a pretty clear quiet period between the end of the Revolution and the beginning of the War of 1812. British General Clinton left in disgrace and his replacement was forced to evacuate around 1783. We didn’t declare war with Britain until they tried to force us to stop trading with France in the 19th Century. That was, in my opinion, a separate war.
I’m glad they let us win, but just because you let your little brother beat you at basketball doesn’t necessarily mean he won in my book.
I had a history professor who was strongly against mixing sports analogies with historical events. I think this comment partially illustrates why. Britain didn’t let us win; they were forced out. Regardless of the actual mechanism of our victory, Britain made a cost-benefit analysis and left despite King George’s wishes.
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This
Regardless of the actual mechanism of our victory, Britain made a cost-benefit analysis and left despite King George’s wishes.
With a Franco/Spanish/Dutch alliance on their doorstep, India to keep under control and so on, they didn’t pour as many resources into N. America as they otherwise could have.
It is one of the great what if’s of history as to what would have happened if the planned Franco/Spanish invasion of 1779 hadn’t been abandoned at the last minute because of sailor’s dieing left right and center. The British would have been woefully short of manpower to defend it, and the course of modern history would be radically different.
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japanese interests are also served by believing that the Bomb ended the war
because it serves their sense of victimhood
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by Freneau on Aug 15, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Occam disagrees
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by cmkeller on Aug 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't consider people like you to be human
Homo sapien nonlactus
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You pastoralists are so damn smug.
Just because you guys have organized religions and the wheel doesn’t make you better than us.
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you're right
our knowledge stops and what you want to believe about history is always right. everything else is just “revisionism”
I wouldn't go that far
and history is a complex thing, and I’m sure that Occam’s Razor doesn’t really apply when you’re talking about a war with multiple combatants. My mention of Occam was merely a tongue-in-cheek response to the rather broad statement at the end of your prior post.
But that said, it seems to be a trend amongst academic historians to minimize the positive role played by the USA in recent world history. I’d love to see any of these Monday morning quarterbacks put forth a theory that changes popular pre-conceptions in an America-positive way.
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I student taught this time period about a year ago to ninth graders.
I didn’t really use the textbook much – I wrote almost all of my own materials. I found it difficult to figure out how to best present the material so as not to give the students oversimplifications but also to provide an accurate appraisal of the facts.
I actually took an undergrad course just on the history of the Cold War and I knew that some of the things about the end of the war could be debated over an entire semester. As a public school teacher, going into that detail just isn’t appropriate. I came to the conclusion that I would have to leave a lot of things open ended after presenting both sides. But after all, it’s my job to teach, and to encourage them to come to their own conclusions.
Truth be told, with most of them, I was happy if they were even trying to listen instead of texting in the back rows.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
As Will implies, all history is "revisionism."
As an actual historian, it bugs me when that term is used pejoratively (as it usually is).
Americans are generally too dismissive of the Soviet contribution to WWII (and the 20th century, for that matter). Victory in Europe was largely on the shoulders of dead Soviet soldiers. The bomb was dropped in large part to send a message to the USSR. If the Japanese were afraid of the Soviets more than the bomb, it might indicate that a) Japan’s government truly was crazy, b) the Soviets really,really wanted payback for the Russo-Japanese war, or c) that Japan didn’t really know what the bomb was. I think Hasegawa probably is right that the USSR entered the picture a bit, but surely the atomic bomb was a large part of the picture.
Fixed
Victory in Europe was largelyon the shoulders of dead Soviet soldiersdue to the incompetence and/or drugged-up lunacy of Hitler.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 15, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He's mighty mighty, just lettin' it all hang out
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by Royal Kingdom on Aug 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Owwwwww!
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Royals sign 4th round pick Kyle Smith (RHP) for $695K
Announced this morning, per Jim Callis at BA.
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What's this talk i'm hearing that Boras needs a client like Bubba to go to college and forgo the money for future signings
Do these effectively hide my thunder?
Kietzman was stirring stuff up to draw ratings
That was his theory and it was in contradiction to his assertion that Boras wants his commission from Bubba.
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stop listening to Kietzman
he is an idiot and an demagogue
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610 is where it's at.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that rant was highly entertaining in its cluelessness though
‘fire boras now bubba and you can be on the field tomorrow’….yeah…if he wants to sign for like 3 million instead of $8 million…good idea dipshit
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in Omaha, i don't get 610
hearing it just through friends and what not, i am in Husker country
Do these effectively hide my thunder?
if you have a smartphone
and a signal you can stream it online, or on your computer at work. Truthfully, it’s not that much better than 810 to warrant that effort.
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no effort is too much effort to avoid listening to kietzman
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
too fucking true...although...
I’ve got an ex-pat Husker fan/buddy in KC, we’ll often end up talking about what a doofus Kietzman is, ask each other WTF we’re doing still listening to him, etc….rinse, repeat ad naseum
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i very rarely do...
his starling rant was one occasion where i was listening to petro before i went in to eat lunch and got back out to my car to hear the beginning of his rant before i got to change the station
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
you getting a chub piece for Husker football yet?
Its a big if, but if Martinez is as good as he was first few games of last year, they could go 11-1 or 10-2…..if not, it could get ugly. I’m guessing they’ll lose at least 2 or 3 out of this bunch: road games at Wisconsin, Penn St, Michigan, and could slip up at home vs Mich St, Iowa, or maybe even Wash?
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yep...its there....
i wonder what i’ll do with myself if nebraska stays good and the royals get good september will be sports overload…fb season starts right about when im sickening of the royals.
if martinez is as good as he was at the beginning of last year, undefeated is possible. he was that good. now, he’ll probably get a little banged up at some point and we’ll probably lose a game because of it. if i had to guess, we’ll probably finish 9-3 or 10-2…not too bad for the first year
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed....hitting Big 10 at right time with traditional powers limping
going to be much more physical than we’re used to…should have a speed edge on most teams, will be interesting to see how that speed vs size thing works out…..
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Aug 15, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope they dont decide to go all wisconsin to fit in...
slow, white and boring football doesnt appeal to me
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Read Rany's piece on Moose and went digging through the stats
BABIP = 0.214
xBABIP = 0.241
IFFB% = 27.3%
Results are about as bad as the underlying talent this year.
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wow...i dont think ive ever seen an IFFB rate that high...insane
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It is until you watch him
1 in every 4 hits is an IFFB. Actually seems about right or even low.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
or a roof
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I know we get a draft pick next year if we don't sign Bubba.
Does that apply only for the 1st round pick or does that apply to all 50 rounds?
If a team has more than one 1st round pick, does that count for only their first pick or for all the supplemental picks?
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I think it is for first round picks only
and all first round picks, I believe.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Only first three rounds
I believe it does not apply to supplemental picks. Also, if you get a compensatory pick, you cannot get a comp pick for that if you fail to sign that players (for example, if the Royals get the #7 pick next year for failing to sign Bubba, they could not get a comp pick if they fail to sign their 2012 #7 overall pick).
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Thanks for the info. That part about the compensation pick was the only thing I did know.
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pretty sure it applies to the supplemental round picks
if that’s what you meant by supplemental pick
When a player fails to sign, how does that affect the team's compensatory pick strategy?
Obviously, this would seem to give the draftee more leverage. Do teams generally go for much safer picks with their compensatory picks?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and sometimes it doesn't affect the strategy used/quality of the player,
but usually it does.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Aug 15, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1st 3 rounds i believe
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow trade
Did not see this coming – Tigers acquire OF Delmon Young for two minor leaguers.
Is there any doubt that Delmon Young is one day a Royal?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 15, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
but its soccer
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by tiquanunderwear on Aug 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So more chance of it literally being a bloodbath.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny to see Chelsea held to a draw yesterday
thought ManYoo was going to end up level as well, but they caught a break from a kind deflection….
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