What Are Your Expectations for Johnny Giavotella?
by Freneau on Aug 5, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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Given that he was lauded as a character pick of sorts on draft day, Johnny Giavotella was an unlikely internet hero, at least from an "he's putting up numbers" angle. Nevertheless, the player who was praised as a gritty winner at the college level has had a remarkably smooth time as a professional, progressing through the system in an orderly fashion.
At A ball in 2008, he posted a .776 OPS. The next year at high-A Wilmington he was at .731 (a mild step back, but it is a tough park in Delaware). At NWA in 2010 Giavotella established himself as a serious prospect with a .855 OPS, and took it to the next level this season with a surprising .339/.391/.481 line.
Earlier this week Jeff wrote about Gio's numbers translated to the Major League level, projecting a line of .308/.349/.428.
This is an open-ended, information-gathering kind of post, so I'll stop here. What do you expect from Gio in 2011?
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Am I the only one out there hoping that Getz is shuffled out of the Getz/Navarro/Gia equation?
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I Have An
Odd faith in this somehow happening. I believe that, as the window for success approaches, Moore will actually make some good moves at the MLB level. Getz had his chance and proved he’s not up to the task.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He should at least be DFA'd when players need to be added to the 40-man roster in early winter
Actually, I think he should do it right now, but at the latest it should be done in November. Not that I predict this will necessarily happen.
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by Scott McKinney on Aug 5, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Are We Talking
MLB, MiLB, or a combination of the two?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Seems like MLB...
I hope and expect him to have a 2011 MiLB OPS of exactly .872, since I hope and expect he won’t make any more MiLB plate appearances this year.
I Was Not
Aware of his promotion when I asked.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Off Topic,
but you folks have a virus popping up.
RoyalsReview is trending toward being a torrent site
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by Lum on Aug 5, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
It's the damn ad's from SBN. I am on Chrome with Ad Block installed and no longer see them
I don’t know what to say
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 5, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Minorleagueball has the same issue.
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by Frederick0220 on Aug 7, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Voted .701-.750
Just be better than Getz :(
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by Lum on Aug 5, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This poll is unnecessary.
Anything less than a .925 OPS will be a huge disappointment. Gio is trending toward being Hosmer.
"I DARE you to make less sense."
Voted under .700
But I think he’ll be almost 100 points better than Getz. Would have like a .650-.700 option.
.270/.330/.370 sounds pretty optimistic, but it’s the lower bound of this poll.
You take his numbers now and downgrade them 25%.
That’s the conversion from Omaha to KC.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Getz will DH
and leadoff.
Ned does not want to shake his confidence.
by Black and Gold on Aug 5, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, and batting 6th
1. Alex Gordon (L) LF
2. Melky Cabrera (S) CF
3. Billy Butler® DH
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
5. Jeff Francoeur® RF
6. Johnny Giavotella® 2B
7. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
8. Alcides Escobar® SS
9. Manny Pina® C
Little odd that he’s taking Moose’s spot in the lineup, but whatever.
I'm tired of these selfish baseball players
trying to register their names as trademarks.
by Black and Gold on Aug 5, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Didn't Sarah Palin register her name?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 5, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Bristle Did Too
She's so fucking famous
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by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about you..
but if I started a business, I couldn’t think of a better name to associate my product with.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 5, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope she spelled bristol right when she did it....
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 5, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine Is The
Preferred spelling for her in Alaska.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i c...shouldve figured that
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 5, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If he does good, his nickname should be "Little Jesus".
I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.
Trying to spice up my fantasy team
I dropped Darwin Barney for Gia. Rickie Weeks is hurt for a while longer so I figured I could take a flyer on Johnny.
Honestly I’m expecting and hoping for .290 with maybe 4 homers.
I always thought the weird thing about Gia was that he is a powerful guy physically but it doesn’t translate at the plate for some reason. I mean the guys forearms are the size of my thighs but he has a what 25 career homeruns? Which is probably only like 20 more than Escobar despite being a bunch of times stronger. Strange.
I think as long as he keeps his average up then the power will breakout.
Best case: .310/.395 with 9 homeruns
Realistic case: .280/.340 2 homers
by KCTiger on Aug 5, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dropping Barney is a mistake.
The kid rakes—-I mean it. He’s been a great find in the Cubs org.
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
I dropped Skip Schumaker for him. He's hopelessly timeshared with Ryan Theriot anyway.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 5, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that's a good drop.
Schumaker is worthless… offensively and defensively. Can’t believe Cardinals still play him. He’s their Getz.
Except When He
Hits walkoffs against us.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I put another player to be grabbed up quick on the waiver wire.
His damn MLB to MiLB promotions and demotions are driving me nuts
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Aug 5, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
his forearms look huge b/c his arms are 6 inches shorter than a normal persons
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 5, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You should see him try to take a vest off
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by Matt Klaassen on Aug 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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I honestly hope he does well.
As one of the only defenders of Getz here, I know Gia is part of the future and I’m fine with that. However the only numbers that seem to get play are his hitting numbers, which IMO is only half of baseball. (or 100% if you refer to Country Breakfast).
It’s great if he can keep a decent eye on the ball and match Hosmer’s numbers. But I want to see his speed, ability to field and range , and common sense before I proclaim he is the best replacement for Getz.
The line above represents a better OPS than Eric Hosmer’s so far this season? Is that truly realistic? As we’ve seen so far we’ve had two defensive upgrades from the Minors this season, but only one offensive upgrade. – Eric Hosmer. (Until Mousse can hit consistently several 10ths above the Mendoza line, he’s the blemish on the farm system so far this year. I hope he can work with Seitz into the off season and get it figured out. ) With Gia, I almost think we’ll see the opposite. The bat will be there (according to the numbers) but the defense will suffer (again, according to the numbers).
Keep in mind the numbers Getz has in the field are the league average with a few ticks upwards on the fielding pct. Where as Gia sits below on fielding and high on errors (advanced are not available). Getz in 95 games has 5 errors (no ‘perfection’ comments from the peanut gallery), and Gia has 10 in 104 games. Twice as many errors in only 9 more games is not a plus going from AAA to MLB.
Is it a great move? Who knows… Increased bat? Signs point to yes… Better fielding….ummm, ask again later.
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I voted .701-.750 because...
…because 2 months is not a lot of time to make adjustments at the plate (e.g. see Mostaukas for more on that.). In other words, he may show power between Sept. 1-30, but not this month. We’ll be lucky if he shows it earlier. I’d love to be wrong. – TL
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
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by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 5, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad Kris Kobach no longer teaches there.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 5, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It is too bad.
I was looking forward to taking another class with him. Know why? Because he’s f’ing brilliant.
…and entertaining. And the ladies seemed to think he was easy on the eyes.
I had him for a semester, and also got him to be my faculty advisor for an article I wrote. That was cool. But I do think he’s a little nutty in the political realm. Actually, more than a little.
girls think he's attractive with that nose?
I wouldn’t say he’s unattractive, but lets be serious
by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 6, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I am no authority on the topic, myself...
…just reporting what were the opinions of my female classmates 6-7 years ago.
Personally I have no expectations for Gia
I’d be surprised if he didnt’ struggle at least through August, and probably not hit well in the majors this season at all. It’s really difficult to show up in the majors and be even pretty good right away.
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i agree
And im a firm believer that gio will be a good hitting 2B. Mooses struggles have really reinforced just how difficult it is to hit major league pitching. I do, however, think that johnny will adjust and finish with a good September.
by LimaTime10 on Aug 5, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah and Hosmer has reinforced the opposite
Moore shouldn’t have been promoted with his .347 OBP
by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 6, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
“Earlier this week Jeff wrote about Gio’s numbers translated to the Major League level, projecting a line of .308/.349/.428.”
Wait a second, that is .777 OPS. Another mark of perfection!
And Getz's .555 OPS
is the Number of the Least.
by Dadunca on Aug 5, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally a wise move by Moore and management
Giavotella will have a .343 OBP and a .408 SLG % – mark it down…
Next move is for Francour to die, uh I mean get hurt, and start the Cain era
Yeah, I'm not on board with the idea of keeping these two and trading Cain.
I trust Cain to come up and play well more than I trust Melky and Frenchy to continue playing well. It helps that Cain’s defense is virtually guaranteed.
For Giavotella, I predict .280/.340/.410.
If that happens
it will be a temporary situation to get at bats. He will be a full-time Royal in 2012.
While I remain agnostic on the matter of whether he will be here full time next year,
either way, I want him getting daily ABs.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Aug 5, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
2011 All-Star Guaranteed
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 5, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
that's a hell of an accomplishment
since it occurred in the past. Does he know Doc Brown or something?
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by sfeldkamp on Aug 5, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
265/320/365 for the remaineder of this year
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omaha numbers drop wRC+ by 25% end up with Ryan Ludwick's 91
and boom 234/300/365
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 5, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect him to not be Getz
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Whats this OPS nonsense?
I wanna know how the kid is gonna do on the Polk scale. Something tells me he’ll be found wanting.
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He's supposed to be a gritty sumbitch
I’m hoping that tonight’s FSKC pregame show will televise the knife fight in the clubhouse between he and Getz for Second Base Supremacy.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Aug 5, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wrists tied to one another ala Michael Jackson's "Beat It" video...right?
Also could go the Thunderdome “2 men enter, one man leaves” route. Francouer could play the part of Blaster to Getzs’ Master.
by A Study in Blue on Aug 5, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Getz "Who run Barter Town?"
DMGM softly “Master Blaster”
Getz “Louder…..”
DMGM now unknowingly on the K loudspeakers “Master Blaster runs Barter Town”
Mel Gibson “I’ll do it.”
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Aug 5, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows,
wouldn’t should me if Giavotella went on a BABIP-fueled hot streak. The only thing he really does well is make contact, but given that the K inflates ball in play, a little luck could go a long way for him.
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Think Of It
Gordon RF
Cabrera LF
Butler DH
Hosmer 1B
Cain CF
Moustakas 3B
Giavotella 2B
Pena/Pina C
Escobar SS
A lineup largely devoid of suck, and young, too.
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How will Gia do?
I propose a new poll:
On what date will he surpass Getz’ season total of XBH?
One game, one XBH down, and 7 to go to tie, 8 to surge ahead. Too unrealistic to suggest this will happen by Labor Day?
If strikeouts are indeed fascist - then find me some starters that believe in fascism
Gio's Defense...
…looked good his first 2 games. I didn’t see any plays that showed gaps between him and his predessesor, Getzie. Also, are they putting Melky on the dl and calling up Cain? Could make for an interesting lineup:
1. Cain
2. Giovatella
3. Gordon
4. Butler
5. Hosmer
6. Frenchy
7. Moose
8. Pena/Pina
9. Escobar
by Esteban Silvani on Aug 7, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
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