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OT - Ditching the cable - is there anyway I can still watch the Royals?

I am pretty much at my last straw with cable companies. I've run through two cable companies and a satellite company and all have varying degrees of inanities to deal with. Plus we honestly don't watch that much TV as it is and its quite expensive. With more content - particularly the shows we enjoy - available online, I would very much like to ditch cable TV altogether and watch all my programming a la carte through Hulu or Netflix.

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I have one weakness however and that is sports. There are enough Jayhawk basketball games on over-the-air TV that I can still get my fix (is there a way to get ESPN games online?)

But my beloved Royals play overwhelmingly on FOX Sports Kansas City (ask your cable provider if you don't already receive FOX Sports Kansas City and demand it!) I enjoyed MLB.com when I lived in the DC area, but now that I reside in the Kansas City area, my understanding is these games will be blacked out due to MLB's draconian and short-sighted rules.

So do I have any options at all, or will I be stuck with listening to the excitable Bob Davis and the dulcet tones of Steve Stewart as presented by Tompkins Industries?

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Streaming sites?

BFIB<BFSE........KC needs more Edwin Carl

by tiquanunderwear on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Illegal streaming is your friend

And I believe your only friend since you’ve decided to cut the cord.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Illegal streaming?

But that sounds so….illegal. Is it?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

My brother-in-law and his wife haven't had cable for years

He regularly streams NFL games, UFC fights, etc. from his laptop. I’ve screwed around with it for a few big events, but invariably it always seems like a bigger pain in the ass than it is rewarding. The feed is usually low-quality and it’s far from reliable. I’m probably doing it wrong, though.

I suppose there’s always the possibility that the big broadcasters, sports leagues, etc. could get together and mount an RIAA-on-Napster-users sort of legal assault. But it seems like the problem is that there are so many random streaming sites (as opposed to one monolithic music-sharing site like Napster) that it would be very time-consuming and costly to track down your list of defendants.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Illegal Streaming

If you know of a couple good sites, do it. It’s easy, it works, and the quality is pretty darn good. However, Royals games are one event that isn’t always guaranteed a stream.

by OnixConcepcion on Jan 19, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

In my cable-less experience, you're out of luck with the Royals

But if you have Time Warner Internet, you should be able to watch a lot of Jayhawks basketball on ESPN3.

by CompmanJX3 on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, ESPN3 is a nice perk of having the right internet provider

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Not having cable or satellite (I've switched to DirecTV) would simply not fly in my house

My wife would probably leave me if she were unable to watch all her Real Housegines, design shows, and random real-life murder shows (i.e. “Snapped”, etc.). Somehow I don’t think I could sell her on Hulu/Netflix offerings like “Remington Steele” and “Major Dad” as substitutes.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Gerald McRaney really filled out that uniform

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And Pierce Brosnan was a rather dashing young lad

Even if Hulu/Netflix had decent content, I think I’d still miss the randomness of sitting down and “seeing what’s on”. For example, I’ve watched a couple documentaries in the last month or so that I probably never would have put on my playlist or otherwise stumbled onto if I didn’t just happen to click on the Documentary Network. One was “Kimjongilia” (about North Korean refugees) and there was another one whose name I forget about immigrants from the Central America and their attempts to make it all the way through Mexico to the U.S. Good, random stuff. I still think it’s nice to have little surprises like that on a Tuesday night.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

twss

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

For McRaney fare,

give me Simon & Simon any day of the week.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The cable company has me by the giblits (giblets?)...

The neighborhood I live in has tons of trees, the direct tv guy told me I’d have to cut down two trees and a tree in my neighbours yard… FML

Your 2010 Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League Champion
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095

by averagegatsby on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

That's really the only drawback I've found with DirecTV (that and the spring/summer storm season)

Although I live in a neighborhood with lots of mature trees, I’m fortunate that my house is kind of on a hill and has a clear path.

And I’m pretty sure it’s “giblets”.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I got rid of cable last fall

Haven’t regretted it much since:
a) I still get broadcast channels so I can watch mindless TV when I want to feel numb
b) I regularly use internet streaming for football and soccer, with only a handful of games I can’t get
c) i save about $140/month

I probably will get MLB TV in the spring and maybe the AppleTV box, but this works for me since I’m not in the Royals’ market.

by Loose Seal on Jan 11, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

$140 a month???

Did you have every single premium channel?

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Cable + HD + DVR + Sports Package + HBO + taxes/fees = $140/month, if i recall correctly

I could probably have gotten a better price if I haggled with them, but I just decided that I’d had enough

by Loose Seal on Jan 11, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure you could have

I’ve got all that (plus another HD receiver upstairs) except for HBO, and I’ve been paying about half that through Directv.

And I highly recommend Apple TV. Especially if you have other Apple products (i.e. an iPhone and/or iPad). The AirPlay feature is VERY cool. Especially with some games/apps that are designed to incorporate it.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here my cable bill is around $170

Cable, DVR, Internet, HBO/Showtime

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Mine costs $140 when it's not football season.

I get every movie channel. Fuck commercials.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 11, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yes -

I want to drop cable too, but I can’t drop the following:

Game of Thrones
TrueBlood
Boardwalk Empire
Homeland

and my wife loves Dexter and The Borgias

That and knowing that I can watch something, ANYTHING without commercials is worth it. Hell, I’ve watched How to Train Your Dragon 4 times just simply because it was on and doesn’t have commercials…

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Netflix streaming helps with a lot of that.

I’m just a season behind everyone, not a big deal unless you want to be in on the conversation while the shows are airing.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You can DL all that stuff.

If you’ve got a PS3 or AppleTV, you can feed that stuff from your computer to your TV through your Network. You can also transfer everything to an external or feeding a laptop into an NBox or similar device. I have a friend who hasn’t had cable in years and still keeps up with all that stuff well before they’re out on DVD.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 12, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

this is what i do.

have HuluPlus, Netflix, and Amazon Prime all that cost me about $25 total per month. i bought a tRoku HD box for $70 and can stream all the TV shows i want, including the current seasons of the wife and my favorites (the Closer, Modern Family, Walking Dead etc).

much cheaper than my $150 cable bill was before i cut the cord. i have also recently found some reliable sites for streaming sports. not sure they are 100% legal, but the are high quality and free. i was able to watch several college bowl games through these sites. i am not sure if i will be able to get KC Royals games through them yet. will have to see come this april.

by DickHowser4ever on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sporting events are certainly a different story.

But for the most part, these networks are not yet concerned about people pirating their shows. I mean, they would prefer it not happen, but they’re either unwilling or unable to get the government to crack down on it. On the other hand, the government cracks down on films and sports because of the power of those institutions. TV lobby not strong.

by hawkinscm87 on Jan 16, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been with either Directv or Dish network for 10 years.

I switch every other year like clockwork. My current bill is $62.99/month for the second to the highest package. I’ll lose HBO, Skinimax, etc…in 3 months and their DVR sucks compared to Dish, but I’ll just deal with it for the next two years. My bill after 1 year will go to around $109 but I’m saving over $400 this year alone for making the switch. I could never get by on over the air tv and netflix/hulu. With the sports pack, I get the FSKC games all year. Well worth it in my book. I’d recommend Dish network over Directv just based on the quality of tech support and hardware.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 11, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

mlb.tv Is Great

For me because I can use it at work. I couldn’t do that with the MLB package on Direct.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true,

but I have to log in under a friend’s account out of Peoria Illinois, or the games are blacked out for me here. I use MLB.com radio feed everyday at work though.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That works?

If I get MLB.com here in NYC, can Retro just sign in using my username and PW to watch Royals games?

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 11, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought for sure MLB had closed that loophole

I know you could do that at the oustet of MLB.com.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think that if you tried to sign in with my username and PW, it would see that your IP address was in the blackout area and not let you watch Royals games.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It was working as late as this past June.

I then got almost too busy to actually try to watch one here at the office. I just got the radio player going in the background after that. I did it for 2 years though.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 11, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure they closed it.

My brother couldn’t use my ID to stream Twins games in central Iowa because they were blacked out even though Comcast didn’t carry Fox Sports Northwoods or whatever the lame moniker is.

You could exploit it if you could bounce your IP address to an out-of market site, I believe. I do not have the aptitude to figure that out.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 11, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No -

it zeros in on your location using some sort of protocal. I tried this very thing, I’m in NY and my dad in KC wanted to watch a game on the computer in KC…no worky.

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I, too, am primarily a radio/mlb.com guy

I enjoy it as a medium, but despise Bob Davis. If they had good announcers (I love Denny, mostly for sentimental reasons, though I know many of you do not), I would never desire to watch a game.

by Rufus R. Jones on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Walk-In Hose Repair

Is something I can’t live without.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jan 11, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a good app

That you can follow the game with? Like MLB At Bat? How is that?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it

and it gets better every year.

On top of that, the major sports web sites have their own versions – ESPN.com at least CBSSports.com do. If you find you don’t care for MLB at Bat.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

AtBat is great.

I’ve cancelled my XM subscription because you can just stream the radio from the app. I just wish we had a decent local radio affiliate for times that I don’t have access to my charger. It can be a serious drain on the battery.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 11, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Are there blackout rules for radio?

Can I get Denny in KC?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Yes.

You can also get the opposing team’s radio broadcast, or any other game/team broadcast. But like MFM says, if you’re using your cell network, be prepared to have your battery almost entirely drained by the end of the game. If you’ve got a charger, though, then MLB At Bat is indispensible if you’re driving out of radio affiliate range during a game.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got an Ipad

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

wow...

all the more reason to keep Cable…can’t you get Time Warner app and watch the Royals from the commode?

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose

But wouldn’t I just watch it on my big screen TV?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

With an iPad or wifi-enabled phone, then you're fine

as long as your in wifi range. But if you’re on 3G then it’ll be a huge battery drain. With an iPad I bet you can really take advantage of the Gameday features. The only problem is that they are never in sync with the radio broadcast.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Im like hank hill

when it comes to hydraulic accessories, and kubota is some pretty good shit by the way

by Kansas City Keith on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I Work Aviation

Ground support, and hydraulic hoses are very necessary. We actually have walk-in service available here, but it’s because of the oilfield.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ours Are Red,

Black and white, with a little silver added by the new management.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and blue helmets

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

We flew UN

Missions in Croatia in a pure white color, but we still took fire.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Slingbox?

What is that anyway?

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 11, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

It just "broadcasts" whatever TV content you get to the internet so you can watch it on a computer, iPad, etc.

It’s still limited to whatever content you already get (you hook it up to your cable/satellite box). It would be useful for watching Royals games if you already got FSKC, and went on a trip somewhere. Then you could still watch a game without having to subscribe to MLB.tv.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

But isn't there a way to do placeshifting using slingbox?

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of people using slingbox to circumvent MLB’s blackout rules.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 11, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooh, here we go

Do tell! Go MacGyver on us!

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea

A little Google searching showed that people do it and that MLB doesn’t like it. But I have no idea how to do it and if this possibility is currently available. (the stuff I found might be outdated). Looks like you’re going to have to do some research.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Jan 11, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how it works exactly, but yeah

I would think if Retro bought a Slingbox for somebody who already had FSKC, and that person just hooked it up to their cable/satellite receiver, then he could probably watch the games. Unless there is some way for MLB to get the cable/satellite providers to prevent that (which I haven’t heard of). But, the only problem there is, I believe, you’re relying on that person to always have the games on and never change channels. If the guy was out of town or his wife knocked him out and stole the remote to watch some inane reality show, then you might be SOL that night.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This works actually.

I’ve conidered doing this with a friend in KC. Have them hook up a spare cable box to a Slingbox and ‘Sling’ the signal to your computer anywhere in the world. In return offer to pick up part of your friend’s cable bill.

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Proxy servers?

Though I think MLB’s getting pretty good at chasing that down.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

posted this below, but it is more relevant here...

i can ssh into a computing server a buddy who lives outside the blackout area has setup. then i launch a web browser, log-in to mlb.tv and can watch the games. its a legal workaround, but not everybody has access to an computing server in a far away city.

by DickHowser4ever on Jan 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear they have an opening in the television broadcasting booth

if you don’t mind not having a mute button for Ryan Lefebvre

by Loose Seal on Jan 11, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

They're Called Earplugs.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

what i mean

is what company runs off your pole?

by Kansas City Keith on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like someone's getting a visit from this guy:

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess Wikipedia doesn't like it when people hotlink...

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Terribly underrated

It was an gang…I think they were Asian or something….they were speaking……ASIAN.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

When Stiller is directing,

the results are almost always gold.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 12, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Time Warner and AT&T

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is my take...

I’ve been without cable for almost 2 years. It sucks. It. Sucks. Big. Time.

What happens is I get my shows online, mostly through Netflix, but the problem is that Netflix kind of sucks. They either have every episode of something you want to watch, or they don’t. And when they don’t you get a little pissy.

Secondly, it has been pointed out that you can catch games online. I delved in this area, but the problems have been pointed out, grainy feed, and impossible to find, constantly shifting channels. Not to mention that it is illegal, and by illegal, I mean illegal, like…against the law. I look for the government to really put a stronghold on this, and it is already happening with the new proposed net laws. Just check out www.channelsurfing.com. It should still have the Government Seals of shutdownage up.

Next, is the sports problem. What happens is there will be a game on and I am dying to see it so I go hang out at a sports bar, which just doesn’t suit me. I don’t see myself drinking more than 1 or 2 and then you have the problem of slumming around for 3 hours to finish the game. Not only this, it costs you more money in the long run, because you will find ways, like, “Hey, honey let’s go to Applebee’s, your favorite place!” and then watch the game and drop 40 bucks on garbage food. Or maybe its, “Oh, I’ll just go to the boat and play a poker tournament and watch the game!” Minus 50 more bucks.

Trust me. It ain’t worth it. I can not wait to get cable back, and relax at home watching sports with the kids.

I imagine somewhere Richard Thaler is clapping.

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Cable And Internet

Will be one and the same, and almost certainly wireless. At least that’s how I see it happening.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Won't that render cable irrelevant?

If more and more content is on the internet, what is cable for?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Time Warner, Comcast, etc.

will shift to becoming more like “internet” companies—i.e. their agreements with networks, studios, content providers, etc. will allow them to provide the same content directly through wifi connections instead of through the coaxial cable hardlines or satellite feeds. For example, even though I have DirecTV and pay for several ESPN networks as part of my satellite package, I cannot live stream any ESPN content through the DirecTV iPad app. As far as I know, only Time Warner and Comcast (of the majors) have deals with ESPN to allow internet streaming for their subscribers.

At the same time, companies like Hulu and Netflix will be racing to try to reach more agreements with the content providers to allow access to that content through their websites/systems. The trick is going to be which companies will be able to position themselves to provide the most desired content at the best rates or on the best terms (i.e. being able to subscribe to live networks like ESPN, etc. on an a la carte basis rather than paying for a “package” that cable companies now require).

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Making Very High

Speed connections available to virtually everyone is the key. They just need to figure out how to make money on it then. Remember when “pay TV” was going to be the end of commercials?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Sports Bar issue

is what finally got me to switch to DirecTV. ~$45 a Sunday to watch the goddamn Chiefs? It was awful. And the sports bar that shall not remain nameless (The Tavern) had a change in management that led to incompetence in actually getting the game you were trying to watch on any TV. One game we finally left in the middle of the second quarter (and we’d gotten there are 11:45) because the game wasn’t on the TV we’d requested a change of while seven screens in the room were committed to the game being broadcast locally.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

couple of other points...

I believe Royals games are blacked out on the internet. Football games are not, if I want to listen to a Cowboys/Giants game, I just use Apple app to get the game streaming on either Dallas or NY radio. This may be the case with baseball, I am not sure. But last time I tried to internet stream I couldn’t, it will play some random 3 hour program online, while the actual radio station is airing the game. I think this is because so many baseball fans are radio people, and they have deals to protect.

Also, I looooooooved my MLB.com subscription I had one year. That was when I was working random hours and could just catch the game whenever, so it blacks the game out live, but you can watch a taped version 15 minutes after the game ends. Or watch the condensed version. I don’t think they blackout spring training games, though, so it is great for that.

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

what kills me is that they have a cell phone app...

that will tell you what affiliate is closest to the zipcode your in, but not an app to listen to Denny for free

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

is the fucking advertisements not the reason it should be free?

if I was an advertiser I would be pissed that I miss out on thousands of listeners because they want to make more money, but essentially it wouldn’t piss me off because I would understand that the ads would be more without the $20 online subscriptions

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Duromatic Doors!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

does anyone have a logical answer why the Royals games are blacked out when...

you live in the area and pay for the service? Does Fox really make that much extra money by stopping this?

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 11, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

I'm guessing they make more money from the cable companies than from subscriptions

And cable companies tell them to black out areas.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I live out of the Royals area, but I still will not pay for mlb.tv. The internet radio feed is good and is not subject to blackouts. Mlb also puts the highlights up quickly, and the next day, you can watch the truncated game in like 10-15 minutes.

I can do other stuff while listening to the radio too. To be honest, I find the radio subscription to be all I need.

by bas on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

lets hope that when MLBs contract with Fox runs out, they will re-negotiate and get this issue fixed

i think when the current contract was signed, MLB.TV and streaming games online probably wasn’t very popular so MLB wasn’t bothered by the blackout restrictions. now i think MLB is losing a fair amount of money due to these restrictions, and will hopefully play hardball with Fox to get these blackout rules changed.

by DickHowser4ever on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't think it's in MLB's best interest to not have these blackout restrictions in place.

I do think the areas need to be revised, as you have people whose cable carriers don’t carry games that get blacked out, but there is too much money in negotiating the TV deals to not enforce blackout rules.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 14, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Direct Made A

Big splash here with a free installation, $29.99 per month basic package. Now, they’re charging $150.00 per month for the newxt package up, $75.00 for the basic. I’m still paying $66.99 for the 180 channel package, and $16.?? extra for HBO, with Dish Network. A lot of people switched, and they are not happy.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 11, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You are living up to your moniker

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I Understand That

And I’ve never seen one minute of that show.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 12, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

My one true goal in life

good thing it’s not SagehenMagnumPI

Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I think I’d much rather be living in some guest house on an estate in Hawaii, driving around in a badass Ferrari, trying to nail hot chicks in bikinis and taking on the occasional private investigation. Sounds like the life to me.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a proxy-type solution that works....

i can ssh into a computing server a buddy who lives outside the blackout area. then i launch a firefox browser, log-in to mlb.tv and can watch the games. its a legal workaround, but not everybody has access to an computing server in a far away city.

by DickHowser4ever on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Roku

Now this won’t solve the watching Royals in KC problem, but it will aid in your quest to watch TV on your TV instead of on your computer. It’s similar to Apple TV, but if you aren’t totally in the Apple universe, this might be a better choice.

For out of viewing area people, there is an MLB channel, and I believe if you have an mlb.tv subscription, then you’ll be able to watch on the big screen…

www.roku.com

by kcinstl on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Yea, I have looked into Roku

My dad is getting Apple TV (he’s a slave to Apple) so I expect a review from him shortly.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell your dad to look at a Mac Mini instead

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I use mine as an AppleTV and as my primary home PC

Where else can you get a brand new Mac for $600?

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Jan 12, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

but if you’ve already got another computer at home (like me), plus an iPad, plus an iPhone, then I’m happy to save the $500. There’s only so much you can really do from your couch anyway.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 12, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Can u watch via the ps3?!

They have MLB tv on the PS3

"Stay Classy Kansas City"

by Mas Cervezas on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I did not know that

Although I imagine it is still blocked locally, right?

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Think so.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 12, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It is still blocked out locally.

The simple answer is move out of the region.

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by Old Man Duggan on Jan 12, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB.tv

If you don’t mind being 3 hours behind, MLB lets you watch the local market games 30 minutes after they end…not ideal, but you can get your fix.

by Almost Esoteric on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Really?

That might work since I usually can’t watch most games live anyway.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Its true.

Or at least it was last year. I dont know why they would change it.

by Almost Esoteric on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The Communal Experience

Of watching and commenting here make the game for me. I wouldn’t want to give that up, but I don’t have to worry.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Missouri loves company

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Jan 12, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Time error

According to MLB.com: “The applicable game will be available as an archived game approximately 90 minutes after the conclusion of the game.”
So I was off a bit on the time…but Im stuck out here and Denver and cant get the Royals on TV anyway…big fan of mlb.tv. Even better now that its on XBox Live for this year…dont have to hook the laptop up to the TV.

by Almost Esoteric on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

Well that might makes things more palatable

I have some decisions to weigh.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really see how iPads/tablets are secret weapons for the cable companies

They’re just another content delivery device. Any content providing company could take advantage of that hardware, i.e. Netflix, and most of them already have. It’s the cable companies that have actually been late to the party. The only thing that will “save” cable companies is if they can provide the same content as cheaply (or even cheaper) than companies like Hulu and Netflix, and provide it in as flexible ways as the internet-based content providers do.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

After reading that link, I agree with the most part.

Cable companies will work though to make sure HBO/Showtime/Live sports contracts stay exclusive, that helps keep them alive. I was reading somewhere about Apple looking into bidding on the EPL (I think) for TV rights so they can run it through Apple TV. Something like that happens to sports here and it’s a whole new ballgame.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 12, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB

I have only been using this site for a few months, so I don’t know if the Royals will be broadcast or not. But I have been able to watch any/every other sporting event that I was interested in.
“firstrowsports.tv”
http://www.firstrow.tv

by R_F on Jan 12, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yuni wasn't enough?

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 13, 2012 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

after the Myers for Jurrens trade

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

NFL Blackout rule under review

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/01/12/bloomberg_articlesLXP5PE6S972F.DTL

I’m guessing this won’t apply to local blackouts for regular MLB games though.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty specific question here

I am in the St. Louis area looking at switching to U-Verse. The packages I am looking at include FS Midwest STL, KC and Indy (confirmed this with a rep, however they did not know what the blackout situation might be).

Does anyone know if U-Verse blacks out Royals games on FSKC in St. Louis? If they do, why bother even having the channel available out of territory? A lot of displaced KU and KSU volleyball fans?

by thelaundry on Jan 20, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I found that

But it shows I’m in the Cardinals’ territory (the cream/yellow blob straddling MO and IL). I’m hoping another STL-based Royals fan (or friend of one) might know firsthand. A lot of information I found on Google is from the time before FS KC split off on its own.

by thelaundry on Jan 20, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Cut the Cord

Do you have a wife? Kids? Then get rid of cable. Chances are, you don’t have a lot of time to sit around and watch TV anyway, and when you do, you only get to watch what you like about 50% of the time. Frankly, the longer I go without cable (about a year now), the more I realize that—while I certainly enjoyed the shows I watched before—they really aren’t an irreplaceable part of my life. Do I like Food Network? Yes, I do. Has my quality of life suffered as a result of not watching it this past year? No.

Sports make it tougher, but not that bad. Over the air reception on network NFL games is much better than the picture and audio I used to get from DirecTV. If you have the right Internet provider, you can watch a bunch of stuff on ESPN3.com. Lots of Big12 basketball is broadcast on channel 38 in addition to ESPN3.com. I also assume you have friends that you can hang out with if there is a big game you can’t see.

That brings us to the Royals. This is really the biggest problem with no cable. I think the way to go—which I haven’t fully tried yet—is to do mlb.tv and then pay for access to a high-quality proxy server outside the blackout area. You can also take the $125/mo. (or whatever) that you were paying in cable and apply it towards a Royals season ticket package, go to 40 games, have more fun, and listen to the rest on the radio.

"Put that in your pipe and smoke it."

by Hal McRae's Telephone on Jan 20, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not in KC

and the wife and kids are the driving force in wanting a TV package. As long as I get enough on the sports side, I’m fine.

I know I could get Extra Innings, but I like being married. I’ll probably get the MLB At Bat app, but I could actually get a good chunk of games on TV it would be a bonus.

by thelaundry on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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