Pineda swapped for Montero

Who won? Yanks or Mariners?

5 months ago tiquanunderwear 27 comments 0 recs |

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I’ve never been as high as Montero as others. He can’t catch, so he’s not a premium position, and if he does, he’s hurting you defensively. Pineda has at least proven himself in one season. And pitchers are more valuable than hitters.

But its pretty fair and the Ms had pitching to spare and need offense badly so it makes sense.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM EST reply actions

How bad does he have to be defensively though?

He hasn’t been shifted yet… maybe he’s just below average at the MLB level, or even somewhat bad, while hitting a ton. I’d take at C.

Nick Swisher and Johnny Giavatella deserve treats in the Kaufmann parking lot.

by ChrisCEIT on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions

I don't like the Yankees having Pineda, but I don't care about the Mariners having Montero...

therefor Yanks win.

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by averagegatsby on Jan 13, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions

My thoughts exactly.

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by PhattStairs on Jan 14, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

Plus the Yankees get Campos

Mariners #5 prospect, dominated A ball as an 18 year old. WTF.

by JonasDaMute on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions

Mariners get Hector Noesi

Who is a MLB ready that Sickels rated a B prospect a year ago

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions

Pineda for Montero and Noesi seems light for the Mariners

by JonasDaMute on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions

Did Bavasi get his job back?

by JonasDaMute on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions

How does this affect Grass Creek?

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by tiquanunderwear on Jan 13, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions

It is all but ours

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions

Who cares about baseball in October now?

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by tiquanunderwear on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions

Wait, It's October?

Fuck, winter came early this year.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions

well that came out of nowhere

wait and see how it plays out, seems even now.

by BeauJackson on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions

even though i'm a little confused by what the mariners did here

they seem to be putting a little too much faith in the idea that good pitching prospects in minors=good pitching rotation in the majors. seems the better idea would’ve been to trade off some of the prospects instead of pineda.

by BeauJackson on Jan 13, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions

Why?

They’re not really close to competing.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 13, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions

they had pineda for five seasons

he has produced in the majors unlike any of the prospects. why not just keep him around and try to build the offense up? instead, they traded a point of strength to fix a weakness while hoping that their prospects make that point a strength again. i dont know, for me, i’d rather see them use their pitching prospects as the point of strength to trade from. i’m just a little confused, but my grass creek hate could be spewing out here.

by BeauJackson on Jan 13, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions

I suppose

I just see them being 2-3 years off, so they’re better off keeping Pineda, keeping the prospects and building up a decent core around Ackley and Smoak until they bad contracts like Chone and Ichiro fall to the wayside and they can get actual hitters.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions

I'd think that would've been the best course as well

Just seems odd to trade what looks to be a 2/3 starter with five years of control for a DH. The Mariners likely aren’t a better team in 2012 because of this trade, and I’m not sure this trade ever makes them a better team.

Kudos to Cashman for pulling this off after what the Reds and Nationals paid for Latos and Gonzalez,.

by BeauJackson on Jan 14, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions