From Frescoe's Facebook David Glass told the AP that he expects Dayton Moore to being long term...

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David Glass told the AP that he expects Dayton Moore to being long term contract discussions this year with Moose and Hosmer. What young guys do they HAVE to lock up quickest?

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Im not friends with Fresco on Facebook, just saw that an acquaintance of mine had commented on the status update.

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
alot isn't a word.

by averagegatsby on Jan 16, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions

sure

we believe you

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 16, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not anti-Fresco

Some of my best friends are Fresco

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 17, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions

This type of thing seems much more likely with guys who didnt get a huge signing bonus to me.

And who don’t have Boras as their agent. Salvador Perez was my example of someone who would seem to be a candidate.

by WURoyal on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Good point on players without huge signing bonuses

There is usually little incentive to sign catchers long-term, however, as they are generally the lowest paid position — the 5th highest catcher salary in MLB history (by average annual value) is Ramon Hernandez at $6.8 million. Outside of the rare Joe Mauer situation, teams are fine going to year to year with catchers.

by Gopherballs on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions

thats crazy...i never knew that or thought about how little catchers make

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by billybeingbilly on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

I'd lock up that Gordon kid.

Someone should look into that.

by kcemigre on Jan 16, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions 4 recs

You read my mind

If you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down
-Gin Blossoms

by royaldaddy on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

He's okay.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions

whatevs. he dominated last year.

by DickHowser4ever on Jan 17, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions

I would love if they locked up Hosmer.

Moose makes more sense than Perez, imo. Catcher is a pretty volatile position, so I’d wait a few years to see if he does well.

I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.

2012 is the year we shine.

by Jack Marsh on Jan 16, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions

Mauer disagrees

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
alot isn't a word.

by averagegatsby on Jan 16, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions

moose doesnt need the long term security nearly as badly as perez presumably does...

moose has already made 4 and a half million dollars playing baseball…if he’s not set for life, he’s pretty damn close.

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by billybeingbilly on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions

Sure.

But maybe he blew it on strippers and coke.

by hawkinscm87 on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions

More like

math books and olive garden gift cards.

by thehopper on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions

I'd bet

that he has a kick ass scientific calculator.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions

I can see extending Hosmer now

Not so sure about Moose….I’m not so sure his ceiling is so high that it is risky to wait a bit on him. Hosmer living up to his potential would make him really expensive.

Killing time until time kills me

by EspeciallyK on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions

Hosmer's gonna be gone in 6 years

Unless he gives the Royals a discount. Or unless the Royals win a World Series, acquire the BFIB title, and suddenly have $100 million for the payroll.

by Yodazilla on Jan 17, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions

Give Hosmer a Longoria deal...NOW

I am the one who knocks.

by PhattStairs on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions

its about a year too late for that....

and longoria didnt have boras as his agent. as much as he’ll listen to what his player wants, i have no doubt that his powers of persuasion could talk hosmer out of that kinda deal real quick

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by billybeingbilly on Jan 17, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions

Gordon.

If Duffy does really well this year, it would be shrewd to get him long-term.

by Yodazilla on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions

Yeah, I'd wait a little on Duffy.

I’m not sure if DM thinks that we need to lock up #2 or #3 starters. I mean, if we get an ace out of our system, then maybe.

I'm a 14 year old freshman in high school with a love for all things Royals and Packers.

2012 is the year we shine.

by Jack Marsh on Jan 17, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions

Totally agree with trying to grab at least Duffy's arb years.

It makes sense, especially if they can get the pitch counts and walks down. He’s gonna strike a ton of fools out.

I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.

by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 17, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions

Duffy may never be a 5+ WAR pitcher

But if he can consistently put away 3.5-4 WAR seasons then he’s definitely worth keeping around. I don’t think he was given a big signing bonus either, so if the guy can do well, he might bite on an extension like Matt Moore did.

by Yodazilla on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions

They need to lock up Hosmer

Gordon is getting discussed already so you guys can quit freaking out about that. It’s just not in the media. Not sure what they will do.

Hosmer needs to be locked up for the next 6 years… what would be a good contract? 1st year $500K, 2nd year $1.5M, 3rd year $5M, 4th year $10M, 5th year $10M, 6th year $10M making it 6/$37M? Needs more?

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by 306008 on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions

Probably a bit more

Over $40 mill and probably a club option for a ton of money at the end.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions

I think we all know they're talking with Gordon.

It actually has been in the media… just not lately. I think the comments are just snark (at least I know mine were).

I’ll be surprised if Hosmer signs away a year of free agency.

by kcemigre on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions

I say just Hosmer and Gordon for now

Moose’s OBA numbers scare me enough into thinking he’ll just be a league average 3B at best with some good pop.

None of the pitchers has done enough to warrant being locked up.

If Alcides is amenable to a really cheap deal I’d at least consider locking him up, but its not necessary.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions

One thing I've never criticized Moore for is extending young players

He’s done a good job locking up Soria, Greinke and Butler, including one or more FA years. I think he does the best he can, but it takes two to tango. If Hosmer never signs a long-term contract extension with the Royals (including at least one FA year), I hope no one criticizes Moore for it. I’m sure Moore would like to lock him up, but Hosmer is a Boras client, and Boras’s clients very rarely sign such deals. A GM can’t make a young player sign a long-term contract extension. All he can do is offer and encourage.

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by Scott McKinney on Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions 3 recs