Carmona not really Carmona?
Fausto Carmona has been using an assumed name, is really 31 instead of 28 and likely wont be able to obtain a visa to pitch in America by Opening Day...allegely...
another good break for the royals
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Minnesota gets annexed by Canada. MLB cancels Twins’ season in protest.
"Yeah, the maple kind, right?"
meh...fuck minnesota...they're not going to be any good
im praying for some mad cow crisis at taco bell
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jan 19, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
I switched to chicken burritos.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Jan 19, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be OK with that.
Canadian healthcare, beer, Timbits, hockey. I draw the line at putting gravy on my fries though.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Best hamburger I ever ate was in Canada
at a place called Wimpy Burger (“I would gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today”). It’s not far from Niagara Falls. I think the town is called Tonawanda?
"Yeah, the maple kind, right?"
i'm not sure if Bruce has lied about age or name, but rather nationality
Panama? Really? haha
Todd Haley's kids know more swear words than I do.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jan 19, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
It actually might help Cleveland
Carmona is not that good, and it suddenly frees up an extra $7 million that they can spend on some of the bargains left on the free agent market. (This is turning into a good week for Carlos Pena.)
will that actually free it up?
i dont think the marlins got out of the contract with nunez
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Jan 19, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
So how did the Nunez situation play out then?
I also thought he still got his money
He's on the suspended list
And I don’t believe he’s getting paid.
I could be wrong.
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I may have misunderstood the story about him signing the contract this week
The Marlins and Oviedo — the pitcher formerly known as Leo Nuñez — agreed on Tuesday to a contract that would pay him $6 million next season.
But Oviedo will never see a nickel of it if he is unable to leave the Dominican Republic, return to the United States and play baseball. Oviedo continues to work through the legal hurdles to allow for his return, perhaps in time for Opening Day in April.
and
Oviedo was forced to return to the Dominican late last September after it was discovered he had been playing under an assumed name — Nuñez — throughout his professional career.
The Marlins placed Oviedo on their restricted list.
Oviedo, like three other Marlins players, was eligible for salary arbitration, and Major League Baseball instructed the Marlins to treat him no differently than any of the others.
But the team won’t pay Oviedo until he’s activated from the restricted list, and they won’t do that until he’s back in the United States throwing a baseball.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/18/2594439/juan-carlos-oviedo-formerly-leo.html
I took that to mean that he got paid last year but won’t get paid this year unless he returns, but now I see that it could mean that he hasn’t gotten paid since being placed on the restricted list.
When/if he returns, does he get the money he was due when he was on the restricted list?
I think you have your finger on the pulse of U.S. policy
We're far more interested in collecting as much as we can in taxes
than in keeping illegal immigrants out.
There is one thing
If you are a millionaire, there are ways for you to avoid paying taxes. It’s you and I that ain’t gettin out of it.
by Rufus R. Jones on Jan 20, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I forget, did he lie about his age or just his name?
Just an assumed name might not void the contract.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
I am deeply disappointed in our legal system if signing a contract with a false name doesn't make it void.
But, yes, he lied about his age as well. It was the reason for lying about his age – he assumed the identity of a younger friend.
As one of the (many) lawyers on staff here at RR...
…I note that you want that contract to be “voidable” not “void.” That way, the Tribe could hold him to it if they wanted to. (They presumably didn’t commit any fraud, so why should they automatically lose the benefit of their contract).
If a lawsuit were actually filed over this, they would need/want to establish is that his age was a material term of the deal. If it isn’t in the written contract they might not be able to do that. On the other hand, if he can’t get into the USA to play baseball games (for a reason that is entirely his fault) he would probably be found to have breached the contract, and they wouldn’t have to pay him for that reason. (Also, there are most certainly MLB rules dealing with this situation, but you didn’t mention that… just “our legal system”).
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: You are not paying me for this advice and I am drunk.
Your disclaimer
makes me hope that Gross(est) is actually the GM for the Indians and is seeking legal advice on a RR.
The Royals Review in-house legal department should rival, and maybe exceed
most major corporations in KC.
And I fully endorse Drunk Legal Advice. If done properly, it might be as good as Drunk History on Funny or Die.
by Sweep_the_Leg on Jan 19, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Any free legal advice I've ever received
has been DLA.
by Rufus R. Jones on Jan 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Without boring you too much
Most contracts aren’t voidable unless there’s a “material” breach.
Lying about your name would be fraud and therefore a breach, but it probably would not be material because the Indians were paying him to pitch, and his name doesn’t affect how good he is at pitching.
However, lying about his age is probably both fraudulent and material, because it would affect how good he is at pitching, and the Indians aren’t getting what they paid for.
And if he can’t play in the US, that’d also probably be material for similar reasons.
You sound somewhat less drunk than kcemigre
Although I appreciate both your responses and found both to be informative and interesting!
I'm pretty sure that players on the restricted list don't get paid, period
I think that is in the standard player contract under the CBA.
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by Scott McKinney on Jan 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else sense the long arm of the Albert Belle Crime Syndicate in this whole mess?
Wouldn’t surprise me one iota.
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Jan 20, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
indians picked up a $7 million option in October
certainly seems like you could void at least that much of it and anything going forward, not like u can get back what’s already paid
Todd Haley's kids know more swear words than I do.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Jan 19, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I guess he made a Faustian bargain to become a major league pitcher.
Thanks. I’ll be here all week.
by thelaundry on Jan 19, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Don't you mean Fauxstian?
I’ll be in the joint across the street. We have strippers and cheeseburgers.
or pulled a "Faust" one
that just made me vomit.
by kansasjohn on Jan 19, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you sir, are a wild man. Well done.
"Shot by my own men."
by StonewallPDS on Jan 19, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
His name is Robert Paulson.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 19, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
tee hee
Whaaaaaattt… I guess this explains his wanting to stay quiet all the time.
by westbrook on Jan 19, 2012 12:49 PM PST reply actions
That’s because no one could get his attention. Everyone was saying, "Hey, Fausto," to him, but he’d never answer
by Harry Doyle on Jan 19, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 19, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
and a half-joke Seymour Skinner/Armin Tamzarian reference
I’d be lobbying to call him Armin Tamzarian from now on. (Also a Dick Whitman half-joke, but who didn’t see that reference coming?)
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 19, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Fausto Tamzarian
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2012: Either the Royals win, or John Cusack saves us with his RV
You could have also gone with Max Powers
“You don’t snuggle with Fausto Carmona, Marge. You strap yourself in and feel the Gs!”
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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 19, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fausto Carmon
The Name You’d Love To Touch
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Terrible news for Alex Gordon
whose expected OPS just dropped .100 points.
Carmona Not Glue
Ramones second album classic. Sort of.
Can we observe just one moment of sadness over this...
…because “Fausto Carmona” was one of the more awesome baseball names.
I feel we are all a little bit poorer today.
Milton Bradley is actually Has Bro
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I keep trying to find a way to make a "Carmona Not Glue" joke.
But would anyone get the reference?
Jon Heyman had a great joke on this...
Indians are trading Fausto Carmona to Marlins for Leo Nunez and a player to be named later.
I MAY be here all week.
"Yeah, the maple kind, right?"
Is That You,
Mencia?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
So Jose Canseco gets credited/blamed for blowing the lid off a longtime issue
But didn’t Danny Almonte unintentionally do the same thing?
I can't blame him for upgrading from Roberto Hernandez Heredia to Fausto Carmona
I think I would upgrade to Rex Hasselhoff or Bruce Facesmash.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Great MSTK3 episode where the crew riffed on cheesy "hollywood names" for manly actors
Rip Rash, Beef Slab, Smoke Manmuscle, Butch Deadlift, Splint Chesthair, Bolt Vanderhuge, Blast Hardcheese, Buff Drinklots, Trunk Slamchest, Punch Rockgroin, Stump Junkman, Slab Squatthrust, etc….
by Nighthawk at the Diner on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
When Sam Malone checked in for a hernia operation...
it was as Lance Manyon, which makes me chuckle everytime I think about it.
If women only slept with nice guys...guys would only be nice. And they don't. And we're not.
by setupunchtag on Jan 20, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
must have been related to
Zap Rowsdower.
I wonder if there’s beer on the sun.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 20, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
So apparently the story is
Roberto Hernandez-Heredia was paying off the real Fausto Carmona to keep quiet. Carmona asked for a raise, and Heredia said no, so Carmona busted him.
Wouldn’t Carmona also be subject to criminal penalties though?
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it'd probably a lot less severe for the real Fausto
He could probably be charged with Conspiracy and Blackmail. But it’d be a pretty impossible case for the US government to pursue and I doubt the DR is really motivated to pursue charges.
So There Really
Is a Fausto Carmona? I can die a happy man
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Carmona/Heredia has stunk up my fantasy pitching roster for several years
I just can't quit him
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
Brokeback Mound Man
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 22, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
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