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19. OF Wil Myers
27. OF Bubba Starling
47. P Jake Odorizzi
82. P John Lamb
83. 3B Cheslor Cuthbert

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Interesting considering he was 21 the previous year. That’s quite the fall off.

by DannyDavis on Feb 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's funny in a not really very funny way at all

that John Lamb could have TJS yet still remain above Monty. Ugh. Bad ’11, Monty.

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by Old Man Duggan on Feb 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

thats a really strange one for me....

it’s not like lamb has thrived above a ball either even before he got hurt…and as much as TJ generally comes with a full recovery, it’s not a sure thing

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Feb 13, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Goldstein seemed the most bullish on Lamb last year, so I don't begrudge him the ranking.

Jarrod Parker remained on most lists while he was recovering from TJS.

I was mostly saying that it wasn’t funny because Monty frankly pitched poorly enough to pitch his way off the list. Anyone still rating him highly is doing so under the belief that he’ll right a ship that had gotten way off course.

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by Old Man Duggan on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Just for kicks, Kevin's top 100 Royals since 2007...

2007
1. 3B Alex Gordon
21. OF Billy Butler
23. RHP Luke Hochevar
just missed cut: OF Chris Lubanski

2008
19. SS Mike Moustakas
72. RHP Luke Hochevar

2009
18. 1B Eric Hosmer
21. 3B Mike Moustakas

2010
36. LHP Mike Montgomery
54. RHP Aaron Crow
79. 3B Mike Moustakas
83. C Wil Myers
93. RHP Tim Melville

2011
7. 3B Mike Moustakas
11. LHP John Lamb
12. 1B Eric Hosmer
13. C Wil Myers
21. LHP Mike Montgomery
66. LHP Chris Dwyer
67. LHP Danny Duffy
76. RHP Jeremy Jeffress
77. RHP Jake Odorizzi
88. SS Christian Colon

by dejezeus on Feb 13, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

The positions didn't stick.

Also, Hochevar hasn’t been ideal—96 starts, 7.4 fWAR (and he has consistently under-pitched his peripherals). Also, #4 prospect in the system Chris Lubanski didn’t quite work out.

I thought Moose and Hosmer were interesting prospect tales.
Moose: 19, 21, 79, 7
Hosmer: 18, UR, 12 (3rd in ROY vote)

by dejezeus on Feb 13, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

One small correction

Lubanski was a top 100 prospect at one time. He was BA’s #68 prospect before the 2004 season. But he wasn’t in my study because my time period was top 100 prospects from 1990-2003.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Feb 14, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't remember the exact details of McKinney's study.

Was the study to show the bust rate of players to not even make it to MLB? Or was it the bust rate that they wouldn’t become perenial all-stars.

by royal_in_cincinnati on Feb 14, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

it did it all

‘success’ was classified as 1.5 WAR/yr for the cost controlled years i believe

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

An average of at least 1.5 WAR for the CC years.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Feb 14, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

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