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The scariest part of the article is the 14 players that chase pitches the most. 3 current Royals on the list.

3 months ago Dayton_tiny Jeff Zimmerman 27 comments 0 recs  | 

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He's only had a few months to work with Seitzer!

Hosmer does seem to have great plate coverage IMO, so I guess maybe I’m not all that concerned with him swinging at pitches out of the strike zone so long as that isn’t hurting his numbers – is it? I guess I’m not clear from this. What are his numbers on pitches he swings at out of the strike zone? If he’s only hitting pop ups, then that is a problem.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 17, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

and yet, this is a team that values OBP
The scariest part of the article is the 14 players that chase pitches the most. 3 current Royals on the list.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Feb 17, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

They value OBA

The way Kirstie Alley values losing weight.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

She Is An

OT7, so her weight problems must be by design.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure all teams value OBP

but it would be more evident that the Royals did if they didn’t have the lowest BB% in the AL last season.

The OBP was good, though, although inflated by batting average/babip. Yet, they consistently have a high team avg/babip and a terrible walk rate. Looks like it’s just a knack, and that they value batting average more specifically than OBP.

FREE GUYER!

by SandalsNoPants on Feb 18, 2012 6:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I tired of the relentless negativity around here

He walks on water, period. His game has no weaknesses. Anything about his game that hasn’t looked great in the majors will look great this season and forever forward.

You may know me as NYRoyal.

by Scott McKinney on Feb 17, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

he walks on water

but he swings at a lot of outside pitches

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Feb 17, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair...

That article ignores a lot of evidence to the contrary.

by hawkinscm87 on Feb 17, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know that I like Hosmer being mentioned in the same graph as Yuni and Frenchy...

That stink is going to rub off on him…

MAJOR LEAGUE (The Royals)
Rachel Phelps (Royals Management): I think he'll fit right in with our team concept.
Charlie Donovan (Royals Fans): That reminds me, I was going to ask you. What exactly *is* our team concept?

by Royals Medic on Feb 17, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

It's better to have this said of you....

…after your rookie year rather than after 5 + years in the league.

"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.

by timlacy on Feb 17, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this theory was proposed earlier this off season

But someone then pointed out that his walk rate actually went down during his hot streak at the end of the year.

by spamiam79 on Feb 17, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just Speculating, But

When you swing at better pitches, contact rate probably goes up. I’m sure the definitive answer is out there, but I don’t have it.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Feb 17, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember him swinging at a lot of high cheese about a month or two after being called up

SMG47 posted in a thread about a month ago that Homer’s walk rate in Sept/Oct was 2.7%. Not sure how his approach changed those last two months. I will let the better baseball minds on this site figure that one out.

by spamiam79 on Feb 17, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

While Hosmer was free swinging in his rookie season,

his non-intentional walk rate in his minor league career is 11%. His non-intentional walk rate in AA and AAA? 11%. I’m not particularly worried that his rookie 4% rate in a less than one full season sample size will continue to be the norm.

by ElChupanibre on Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Needs more Lasik.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

the 'ole Doubledose

Lets just enjoy the ride, fellas......

by ChosenOneK on Feb 17, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Color me unconcerned

If he trends this way in two more seasons and his production isn’t what we expect it to be then we can look at it as some sort of sign as to why.

We should trade for Vance Worley.

by JKWard on Feb 17, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think anyone should be concerned.

This research has a lot of faults, like ignoring every data point that did not occur in 2011 in the major leagues.

by hawkinscm87 on Feb 17, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

SSS Problems, Definitely.

And yes, TWSS.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Feb 17, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If you raking, do you take less pitches??

He was tearing the cover off the ball the last month and a half. No one wants to take a walk when you are doing that. Was he just getting a lot of good pitches to swing at? Is he going to be a vlad/beltre/hamilton clone? He might just be very good at putting balls in play. As long as the OPS is high, I don’t care what the actual OBP is.

by royal_in_cincinnati on Feb 18, 2012 8:07 AM EST reply actions  

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