The Sublime Awesome Splendor of Aaron Guiel's Minor League Contract with the Royals
Aaron Guiel is back. Kinda.
The Royals signed Guiel to a minor-league contract recently, the same Aaron Guiel who last played in the Major Leagues in 2006, is now 39, and has spent the last five seasons in Japan. (He's big there.) As mentioned in Baseball America and elsewhere, he hit .234/.357/.472 in the NPB.
Basically, if there's a way you can bet that Mike Aviles will return to the Royals on a minor league contract in 2017, place that bet now.
In Guiel's last game as a Royal, the lineup was:
- Guiel
- Grudzielanek
- Mientkiewicz
- Sanders
- Stairs
- Brown
- Graffanino
- Berroa
- Buck
Shane Costa and Esteban German later entered the game. My heart is melting.
Is there really any walk of life other than baseball -- with Spring Training and the minor leagues -- that does this kind of thing? Imagine that John worked for a very large law firm when he was a young man. John stuck around for a decade, made it all the way up to senior level, before moving on to a new firm because he wanted to move to Seattle or something. Then, adjusting for the baseball time scale, at the very end of his career, he went back to that firm as a paralegal. No promises, no salary, no expectation, but hey, he can help the new guys. Except, you know, really he can't, because he's not going to be around and is already definitively lower in status. I know the exact parallels would have to be worked out here, but that's the point: this is entirely a baseball thing.
Guiel's story is relatively well-known by diehard Royals fans, but bears repeating in summary: he played in the Mexcian leagues before the Royals gave him a shot, he had major vision problems shortly after semi-establishing himself as a late bloomer Lew Ford type, and then he was more or less gone. In Japan, he hit well, especially in his first season, and now he's old.
When I look back at the end of Guiel's career -- and he was a player that guys like me always liked: sorta a find, walked, had some power, was cheap -- I think fondly on those days. I actually hated the 2006 Royals at the time, but the names are tinted in nostalgic memories now. Oh hey, remember when Reggie Sanders was around? It was all of it just a colossal waste of time. But then again, isn't all of it, for all of us, very close to being the same.
Here's the lineup for Guiel's Major League debut in 2002:
- Febles
- N. Perez
- Beltran
- Sweeney
- Ibanez
- Tucker
- Alicea
- Mayne
- Byrd
Guiel, like Brandon Berger, PHed in the game. THIS WAS A GAME DAN REICHERT PITCHED IN. I don't know what else to write. It's all just so late 1990s/early 00s Royals and I love thinking about it.
And now, Guiel's back. Kinda.
I want Guiel starting over Francoeur in 2012. The journey starts now.
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Reggie Sanders
I had suppressed that memory. Thanks
I kinda miss my naive ignorant days when I thought Reggie Sanders was a good player.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 24, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Even back then,
I remember thinking this does not make much sense.
I remember
that at the time Sanders had been on a string of one year deals, and every team he played for made the playoffs. Except the Royals didn’t. Not even sure if that’s accurate, but that was the thought process.
Obviously, you are not a golfer.
I think he's on the Vance Wilson plan
Bring an old vet in on a minor league assignment, and then turn him into a coach.
You may know me as NYRoyal.
i'm sure you remember...
what was the deal with his vision? did he get hit with a pitch or was it just a random development?
I really don’t remember
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 24, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Similar to what Hosmer went through.
His vision got blurry. There wasn’t an injury really. He went on an 0-20, got replaced by DDJ. Came back to end a losing streak by hitting a extra innings HR (i assume with his eyes closed).
I miss Guiel, he hated the White Sox.
by Dadunca on Feb 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think its entirely a baseball thing, but it is definitely a sports thing
I think it might even apply a little more in football than baseball.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
Yeah.
NFL players get signed to 1 day deals and retire with the teams that dumped them all the time. I will always scratch my head at those.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Feb 24, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
But they hang out at their alma matters...
look at the sidelines of a Miami Hurricanes football game.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 24, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Guiel is an instructor
Due to some weird MLB rule limiting the number of paid coaches the Royals had to sign him to a minor league player contract. They did the same thing with Devon Lowery who is also instructing in Surprise this year. Guiel even tweeted last night that he’s happy to be back with the Royals as an instructor.
by ElChupanibre on Feb 24, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I wonder if Kendall is also on that track?
He’s in camp, but it doesn’t seem like he’s on any kind of contract. Just an unpaid intern? Volunteer? Stalker?
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I'll take...
…stalker for $100, Alex.
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
We have been debating who will hit second in this lineup.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Feb 24, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a line in the Pina story about Kendall doing some coaching for the Royals.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 24, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
maybe they never told him his contract expired
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I don't know why but..
Every time I hear the name “Aaron Guiel”, I immediately think of Ken Harvey. Which reminds me…
What the hell happened to that guy? Oh sure, he played out of his mind for half of the 2004 season, but how did that guy not at least stick around the bigs as an NL pinch hitter or DH on a shitty AL team?
"Poker, poker, it's all skill. Start with the worst hand and go uphill" - Mike Matusow
When I hear Guiel, I think Street Fighter
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by averagegatsby on Feb 24, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
His swing wasn't conducive to longevity.
Petro pointed it out first, FWIW.
We were that shitty AL team.
If you remember Ken Harvey, you should remember that.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Feb 24, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Is there really any walk of life other than baseball -- with Spring Training and the minor leagues -- that does this kind of thing?
No, because sports are one of the few industries where we recognize when someone’s skills are declining rather than reward them simply for seniority.
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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 24, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I work for the federal government
I have no idea what you're talking about.
by hippdoghipp on Feb 24, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
These will become, ...after...
…the Royals start winning again, “the forgotten years.” When an historian writes the history of the team in 2025, the 1994-2010 period will receive only about 15 pages in a 500 page book. Bet on it. – TL
"Sir,--It has been wittily remarked that there are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third and most aggravated is statistics." *The National Observer* (June 13, 1891): p. 93-94.
why would I ever what a book that glosses over the likes of:
Mark Quinn and Tom Goodwin and Sal Fasano and Dee Brown and Aaron “Streetfighter” Guiel?
I am the one who knocks.
by PhattStairs on Feb 24, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Tony Graffanino...wow...
these utility types are really blending together…Graffanino seemed like a combination of every bad utility guy the Royals ever signed. Like Bloomquist with a Breaking Bad goatee.
I am the one who knocks.
IMO he was one of the better ones we've had.
I'm waiting for my wave of talent to arrive.
by mitchfreakingmaier! on Feb 24, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Graffanino
was actually everything I would look for in a utility guy, and actually kind of expensive when we had him. The problem was, he was in the lineup every day.
by Rufus R. Jones on Feb 24, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I think I
liked graffanino i don’t remeber much of his career here but nothing real shitty jumps to mind
Shit + Shit = More Shit
by Kansas City Keith on Feb 24, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Graffanino might be my Dads favorite player (non George Brett division)
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by averagegatsby on Feb 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the reminder that N. Perez was once a Royal. I’ve spent years trying to burn that memory from my brain.
I don't have an MD or law degree. I have a baccalaureate in kicking ass and taking names. You know that guy who can pick up any girl, I'm him on crack.
And Batting Second
Between the two halves of Dos Carlos!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 24, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
First thing I thought when I saw that lineup
You probably don't remember me as Settles7thYearofEligibility.
by Mike Brownlee on Feb 24, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
When the Royals were truly terrible
I, thankfully, was too young to realize just how awful those teams were, so I was able to blindly hope players like Gueil and Dee Brown and Ken Harvey could help the Royals win something. The more I look back, the more I’m happy to have not realized.
I was a huge Dan Reichert believer
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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 24, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
He had some amazing natural movement on his pitches, at least early in his career. He was very fun to watch…until all of the hits and home runs started.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 24, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
Reichert is one of the many pitchers that KC was just unlucky with, circa 1995-2005 or so. He was a good pick, tons of talent, looked good at times. But was hurt a lot. And sucked when he wasn’t.
by Rufus R. Jones on Feb 24, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
With just a little more time, Reichert's control and command issues are sure to improve
Reichert is a good reminder that a talented young pitcher who overcomes his control problems is the exception, not the rule.
I think Reichert also had diabetes, and there were stories that he did not take care of himself to go with a bad attitude. He was a groundball machine, and had the ability to miss bats, so even with the contorl problems, he should have been able to carve out a decent career as a reliever.
by Gopherballs on Feb 24, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
are we all talking about the same reichert here
I remember the fucking guy opening up a ball game once with 16 straight balls and there was like an 8 run lead before there was an out in the game.
Shit + Shit = More Shit
by Kansas City Keith on Feb 24, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Gopherballs did mention and even highlight Reichert’s control problems, right?
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 25, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
You can't combine
Reichert and talented young pitcher in the same sentence and expect me to continue you to read the stated comment. Off topic here but when you typed out Gopherballs did you laugh I know I sure did.
Shit + Shit = More Shit
by Kansas City Keith on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
uhh
don’t know how that you got in there. Sneaky basterd.
Shit + Shit = More Shit
by Kansas City Keith on Feb 25, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't that Miguel Asencio?
Surely not even the Royals could have had two pitchers do that…?
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Were a smoldering dumpster fire, but I didn’t care. I thought George Alusik was a POWERBAT!
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by philofthenorth on Feb 24, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Savvy move by the Royals
My guess is they signed Guiel so he can retire as a Royal, thereby helping to ensure he’ll be wearing a KC hat on his bust in Cooperstown.
Well, we wouldn't want another Yankee in the HOF
Or Yakult Swallow
I saw Aaron Guiel hit two homers in person at the Dome.
It was AMAZING.
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Aaron Guiel, Japanese Superstar
as you can see here
(and he also replied to my Guiel/Darvish tweet, because 10 Japanese Baseball fans retweeted it)
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by BHWick on Feb 24, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That was FANTASTIC
I love how two of the “highlights” are just absolutely horrible pop-up errors by the defense. Magical General, indeed. The Royals could use a few “Contract of Miracle”, too.
AARON GUIEL SYNDROME
PANDEMIC!
(I can never get enough of watching weird shit from Japan.)
by Sweep_the_Leg on Feb 24, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet
It would be awesome to see Guiel back out there. Maybe he could play off the bench.
Seeing the lineups of yesteryear reminds me of how far the Royals have come
In terms of putting real, tangible, controlled talent on the field.
No more Kit Pellows or Morgan Burkharts for us.
We should trade for Vance Worley.
At your hypothetical law firm...
…that guy’s job title is “of counsel.” He isn’t a partner and he isn’t an associate, and he often isn’t really expected to be very productive. But he’s still got a few clients hanging around out of loyalty from back in the day. If you ever have reason to go see him in his office, plan on spending a while in there, because he likes to talk.
Oddly, despite the diminished expectations, he is also often the first guy in the office every morning and the last guy to leave at night. My current firm doesn’t have anyone “of counsel,” but I have known several over the years.
by kcemigre on Feb 24, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I liked Gueil
even though hes a filthy canadian
Shit + Shit = More Shit
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