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Royals Closing in on Manager? Trey Hillman Will Be the Next Manager of the Royals

Well, this was a strange beginning to this story.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/322975.html

The KC Star is off and running with the rumor mill.  Their source claims that the Royals are closing in on a manager from Japan - Trey Hillman or Terry Collins.  I don't know anything about these two, but I didn't expect this.  Perhaps they're trying to buy some leverage in the Fukudome sweepstakes????...or not.

Update [2007-10-19 2:6:12 by royalsreview]:

And here I was worried we'd bring an old-school National League type manager. Turns out, Dayton Moore may go further than that, as the Royals may look to the land of the first-inning bunt instead. I expect numerous winter and spring stories about how "[Manager X] learned how to approach the game THE RIGHT WAY in Japan." And lets not forget the custom of Japanese pitchers throwing more innings and pitching more regularly too. (Maybe because they're also getting four free outs a game from bunts!)

Fun.

I'll send KCROYALS.com a few story templates in time for Spring Training. Here's the first one.

Surprise- Royals Manager Terry Collins learned a thing or two while managing in Japan: octopus is a tasty dinner, the sunrise over Mt. Fuji will take your breath away, and never to underestimate the power of fundamental baseball.

"We had a couple guys out here today that weren't putting the team first, and I don't care who you are, we will be doing that this season," Collins said.

After failing to get a bunt down in the third inning against the Rangers, Collins was seen giving Billy Butler an earful in the dugout.

"I can't really tell you what he told me," Butler said, laughing. "The important thing is that I learn and get better. [DeJesus] did his job getting on, and I've got to get him over."

With the battle for the final roster spots winding down, Collins says he's been impressed with Kerry Robinson's speed.

"Speed brings a dimension to this team that forces the opponent to adjust. Worrying about a speedy runner is the greatest pressure a pitcher can face," Collins said.

For Collins, its a matter of consistency.

"Speed doesn't go into a slump."

"Really, this is a simple game, and the formula has been the same for a hundred years. The game in Japan is still the pure game, and its the game we'll see more of in the post-steroid era."

Now if he could just find a place that sells octopus.

Collins' managerial stats at b-r. In my memory Collins was a Larry Bowa type, but I could be wrong. Anyone know more?

UPDATE 2007-10-19 10:06 by DCRoyal

The KC Star now reports that's it's all but finalized: Trey Hillman will be managing the Royals in 2008 and beyond with a multi-year deal on the table. The Star expects a formal announcement from the Royals as soon as later today.

Personally, I don't know what to think of this. Hillman has no MLB experience, but he outdueled Bobby Valentine in the 2007 Japan Series and brought the first JPB title to a franchise that in Japan has classically been a laughingstock and was even banished from Tokyo to the northernmost semi-Siberian island of Hokkaido. Reportedly, he read Japanese anime comics and a translated copy of Bushido (The Way of the Samurai) upon taking a job managing the Nippon Ham Fighters to learn about Japanese baseball culture, yet he was fiercely criticized by one of his starting pitchers for being too cold and calculating in yanking him from bases loaded jam. Hillman also carries a stopwatch with him at all times during games, perhaps as a reminder that he needs to pace himself - baseball games are marathons, not a sprint. He's a Christian who dedicates his success to God. He's Texan. And, he loves his twangy country guitar, having released a Christmas CD in Japan. Taken together, what do these facts and rumors mean? Nothing. I'm just surprised, and somewhat excited in a way that's totally irrational, that GMDM is thinking outside of the box with this hire.

Perhaps Hillman's years managing as an expatriate in the Land of the Rising Sun will bring a fresh perspective to the Midwestern heartland. A glorious homecoming of sorts, and a new era in KC baseball - with Kosuke Fukudome and Hillman's own young pitching phenom, Yu Darvish, not far behind. Bonzai.

Update [2007-10-19 15:16:33 by royalsreview]:

Its officially official now. Click here for the story from the team site.

Not a lot to go on initially. The early slant seems to be in the moulder and leader of men vein:

"I am delighted to announce that we have hired Trey Hillman as our manager," said Dayton Moore, Senior Vice President and General Manager. "He is an exceptional person with a great passion to lead. He is the perfect choice for our organization.

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Just saw that
Also just saw that Torre walked away as Yanks manager. Reading the article, if I were drinking coffee, I would have spit it all over my screen while reading this paragraph:

Speculation about a replacement for Torre will most certainly center on bench coach Don Mattingly, former catcher and Marlins manager Joe Girardi, Cardinals manager Tony La Russa and perhaps coaches such as Tony Pena and Larry Bowa.

Tony f*cking Pena......I BELIEVE!!!!!

by Berroa is the devil on Oct 18, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's rumors and speculation
I highly doubt that the Yankees will seriously consider Pena.  All signs point to Mattingly or possibly LaRussa.  
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 18, 2007 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please god
Do not let Tony LaRussa manage the Yankees. The media will absolutely never shut up about it.
"True friends stab you in the front."-Oscar Wilde.

by NHZ on Oct 18, 2007 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this would be awesome...
like the baseball equivalent of Lindsay Lohan...so what do you think ole Georgie would say when TLR (total request live???) asks ARod to slap a single to left to score a run, instead of trying for 60HRs...and could ARod even do it???
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

by PhattStairs on Oct 19, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

odd odd odd
Anyone but Terry

by FireBell on Oct 18, 2007 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Terry Freakin' Collins?
Tell me that's a joke. If we have to hire a retread, can we please hire a good retread?

by royaldaddy on Oct 18, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not good?
He has a winning record as a manager...

by doublestix on Oct 18, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Start your prep work...
Here is a link I stole from the comments on the KC Star story...

Trey Hillman: ESPN Story written by Hillman upon winning the 2006 Japan series... well written article, and I can see why he might be favored in KC (small market).

However, I would like to point out that the carefully worded leak read as follows: "Sources close to the process indicate a decision could be announced early next week, before the start of the World Series, and say the club is looking at someone currently managing in Japan." It doesn't say that the Royals are locked in on a manager from Japan, just that one is under consideration.

If you were GMDM, and you were going to announce in a week, and you wanted to surprise the community and maybe all of baseball, wouldn't you send a lackey out to lay down a fake lead on a Japanese manager?

I believe by this time next week we'll know who the manager will be, but we won't know who it is until GMDM takes the podium.

by Cleveland on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn ESPN
ESPN has posted a story about Trey Hillman in "serious negotiations" with the Royals.

So, guess what ESPN called the article:

Yankees manager-candidate Hillman negotiating with Royals:   sigh.  And they wonder why we hate them.

Anyway, here is the story

Trey Hillman, who has long been considered a possible sleeper candidate within the New York Yankees' organization in the event Joe Torre departed, is in serious negotiations to be the next manager of the Kansas City Royals.

Hillman, 44, has managed the Nippon Ham Fighters in recent seasons, after years as a manager within the Yankees' minor league system. Nippon beat Bobby Valentine's Chiba Lotte Marines 6-2 Thursday to win the Pacific League championship series in Japan.

The Royals have been seeking a possible replacement for Buddy Bell.

Bell, 56, who was hired by the Royals in May 2005, announced in August he would step down as manager to spend more time with his family.

At the end of September, the Royals had announced Bell would join the front office as a senior adviser to general manager Dayton Moore.

But Bell took a job with the White Sox as the organization's director of minor league instruction on Oct. 9.

Hillman has previously interviewed to be the manager of the Texas Rangers and the Oakland Athletics.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3069833

by James Quinn on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doesn't sound bad
i don't know anything about trey hillman other than what's in that espn article.  but doesn't this reporting almost guarantee that he won't get the job per the dayton moore silence order?
pat

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I found a blog entry about Trey Hillman...
It's from a Yankee blog and therefore a Yankee perspective.

Since Joe Torre is without a contract and unlikely to return, it is time to profile some of the men whom the Yankees will look at, whom they could look at, whom they should look at, and whom they should not look at. Now we will look at Trey Hillman.

The resume: Managed in the minor leagues for the Yankees from 1990 to 2001. Won three Minor League Manager of the Year Awards while in the organization. Has managed the Nippon Ham Fighters since 2003 and won the Japan Series in 2006.

Strengths: Hillman cut his teeth in the Yankees organization. He understands the pressures associated with running the team. He has plenty of managerial experience and has won everywhere he has been. He has led teams through pressure games before and a straight laced personality that would set the professional demeanor that has been a trademark of the Yankees' clubhouse through the years. He also plays no favorites, sending out the players giving him the best chance to win. He does this almost to a fault.

Weaknesses: Hillman has never been in the Majors as a player, a coach, or a manager. He has never dealt with Major League egos before. There have to be questions over how well he could run a clubhouse in the bigs.

Outlook: Hillman is a legitimate darkhorse candidate to land the job. The Yankees are familiar with him and know of his successful track record. He has decided to leave Japan so that his children can grow up in the United States. That means Hillman could be a candidate for a job on the coaching staff or in the minors even if he is not named manager.

My take: Trey Hillman will likely be the most obscure name on this list. He also might be the best manager. He would not be a sure thing to succeed in the Major Leagues, given his lack of Major League experience. Still, the fact that he has had success at levels as diverse as the American minor leagues and Japan displays his ability to adapt and thrive in any situation. The Yankees could do a lot worse than Trey Hillman. If they decide to go in a different direction, they should still try and find a way to bring him back into the organization. He would be an enormous asset.

by adschofield on Oct 19, 2007 2:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my entry aside
I'd rather see Hillman get a shot than a random retread. We've already played that game with Bell.

Collins is supposed to be a fairly strict guy, right?

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 3:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couple of observations about Hillman...
  1. He's won throughout his career
  2. He is very formulaic and calculating concerning the bullpen management.
  3. He has been successfully involved in player development.
  4. But here's the kicker, he's never player or managed in the major leagues

by adschofield on Oct 19, 2007 3:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok
1.very good
2.very good
3.excellent
4. I dont really care.

by wildthang on Oct 19, 2007 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will make me happy
If this is the guy that Dayton initially targeted, and we got him.

I'm no expert at rating someone's managing abilities, so until I see him manage the Royals, I don't have a comment about a specific candidate. But what's important to me is that a) the Glasses are willing to let Dayton get the man he feels is best for the job, and b) we're getting what we want, not settling for something inferior because of money, lack of baseball talent, or the small-marketness of Kansas City.

To me, this is Meche all over again. If we see available talent (and the price is reasonable - I wouldn't fault the Royals for not paying $7M to get Joe Torre), let's get it.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Moore initially went after Girardi
Girardi apparently rebuffed Moore.  Moore told the KC Star or KCRoyals.com (I forget which) that Girardi told him he would only be interested in managing the Royals if the jobs he really wanted didn't pan out.  Moore said after hearing that he moved on to other candidates.

I am interested in Trey Hillman, less so in Terry Collins.  Collins has been a winner at the MLB level but he was driven out of two organizations after three years each because of his personality.  Apparently he is (or at least was) kinda a jerk.  Both in Houston and Anaheim players went public about wanting him fired due to hate.  That happening once is pretty unusual.  Happening twice in a row, there probably is something more going on there than bruised egos.  Still, teams under him always won more games...  

There is something to be said about liking the guys for which you are cheering.  Barry Bonds might help the Royals win more games but seeing him in a Royals uniform would gut the joy.

by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, he approached Girardi
But I'd say the situation is a little different with a guy who knows he's on the short list for the Yankees manager job. Girardi didn't turn the Royals down completely, he wanted to know the Yankees were out of the question before he gave up on that possibility. Much as we all love the Royals, you've got to admit the prestige of managing the Yankees is hard for anyone to lock themselves out of by committing to another team before knowing where he stands with them.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hillman
espn is reporting hillman may be announced this afternoon.  from what i've read, i like the guy, certainly a lot more than i like the sound of terry collins.
pat

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hillman also comes with some meta-benefits
Like RR intimated, having Hillman as our manager makes us a lot more attractive to Japanese imports than we were before. We know Dayton wants to maximize the scouting and player acquisition abilities of the Royals, and the Hillman hire does that right off the bat, regardless of how good he is as a manager. Is that the right reason to hire him? No. But it definitely went into consideration, I guarantee you.

by Eppenweb on Oct 19, 2007 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, it will be Trey Hillman,
I don't hate that choice at all.  Pretty good day to be a Royals fan I think!

Let the Hillman era begin!  It will be a great time to be a Royals fan!  Retour à la gloire

by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If its Hillman, I think its a great hire
I had read that he was a big advocate of the big inning - drawing walks and hitting home runs. Then he got to Japan and found a team that didn't do that well. So he adjusted to small ball and it worked really well. Basically, he doesn't adhere strictly to either philosophy, but will do whatever it takes to win with the personnel he has. I love guys like that. He seems to be willing to try new things - to think outside the box, and doesn't seem to adhere to any "book."

I think Dayton has absolutely hit this one of the park. I was worried he might hire a loser retread, but he has shown he wants to take this organization in a new direction with a dynamic young coach who is willing to think about fresh ideas. I am very excited about next season.


Go Kansas City Ham Fighters!

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just so you know
Nippon Ham is the name of the company that sponsors that team. So really they're the Fighters, not the Ham Fighters. As amusing as that would be. So anyway: Go Kansas City Fighters!

by mazoboom on Oct 19, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The linked story says
that the Royals are awaiting Bud Selig's approval.

As long as it's not a conflict with another MLB team, why does Selig need to approve this? Has the commissioner's office always had to approve managerial hires? Is he still under some sort of contract with the Yankees?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Royals are not allowed to hire
Certain managers - those that are "smart" or "good at their job." Otherwise Kansas City might become a good team again, and can you imagine the ratings if the Royals ever reached the ALCS? Oh the horror!
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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then how do you explain
the fact that the Devil Rays were allowed to hire Lou Piniella?

Obviously, the Royals won't reach the post-season without better players, and MLB knows this, so should have no objection to any managerial hiring.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It has to do with timing
Selig doesn't like teams to make major announcements during the World Series.

by jbrocato on Oct 19, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More on Hillman's style
ESPN: Hillman on Japanese ball

I wanted to think deeply about what would and what would not translate from the American game to the Japanese style of play. My theory from day one was to take the best of both worlds. I had to be careful how fast I moved. You can't come in and shock a system. I remember I tried to move our guys to a five-man pitching rotation [six-man rotations are typical in Japan], and the move was too quick, and made the staff too uncomfortable. I'm a relationship, comfort-level kind of guy, and if you pay attention, you can feel the atmosphere drop when things aren't going well. If the atmosphere drops, your productivity is down throughout the team. People get uncomfortable....

I've tried to bring consistency and a positive approach. I've tried to have fun with the players, and let them know when I think they're doing a good job, and communicate to them that the game is something you work at, but the game is also something that's fun.

Foreign managers change face of Japan baseball

Interestingly enough, Hillman won his title by incorporating certain Japanese ways into his management style.

The 45-year-old Texan had gone through his first three years managing the American way with unsuccessful results.

"It was clear that what I was doing wasn't working," Hillman said. "So I asked my players and coaches for suggestions. First, they told me they wanted longer practices -- no more of this half-day routine, in camp. So, against everything I believed, I kept them there until 5 p.m., working on defense, among other things.

"They also wanted more bunting, which is typical for Japan, but went against my big-inning offensive philosophy. But again I said, 'OK,' because this time we had the pitching."

That season, Hillman's Fighters set a new club record for sacrifices, triple the number of the year before, and the entire outfield won Golden Gloves.

With the help of a solid mound corps, led by 20-year-old sensation Yu Darvish, and a spacious home park, the Sapporo Dome, Nippon Ham had its best won-loss record in 46 years.

At the end of the season, an NHK news announcer lauded Hillman for understanding the Japanese way, saying, "Hillman-san is the first American manager ever to make the switch from besuboru to yakyu."

Given the viewing audience, it was praise of the highest sort.

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a new record for sacrifices?
i'm really not jazzed about reading that

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did it
Because it fit his team's personnel well. And you can't argue with the results.

He has acknowledged the difference in the Japanese style of ball and the American style. I'd be surprised if he bunted a lot here. He obviously leans towards walking and getting the big inning, particularly if he were to manage an AL club in a hitters park like Kansas City. He really seems to understand park factors (he emphasized defense and bunting because Nippon played in a huge pitchers park)

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree w/ royalsretro
managers that adhere to one baseball philosophy, whether that be small-ball or big-inning, tend to not be good managers.  the best managers do what's best for their team and can use discretion.  hillman seems like this kind of guy.  i like the hire.
pat

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hillman
Don't know anything bout this guy other than what I've read on here today, but I have a good feelin about him for some reason. I had never heard of Eric Wedge before Cleveland hired him and look what he's done for them. Gut feelin I guess on my part.

by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1pm Press Conference on Monday
Will introduce Trey Hillman as the next manager of the Royals.
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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly guys
I just can't think that setting a record for sacrifices is EVER good, especially given what it means in Japan, where bunts are common, in the first inning.

If they won, they won because of pitching.

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like it
I'm glad its not a manager who is going to burn out our pitching. (Girardi)

I'm glad its not a manager who ignores and hates his own players. (Macha)

I'm glad it isn't some retread. (insert favorite one here)

I like the fact he doesn't have ballplaying experience. He won't be as brainwashed by so many baseless platitudes that seem to exist in former players. (Everything that buddy said or did)

I am excited.

HILLMAN FOR MOY 2008!

by wildthang on Oct 19, 2007 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's the better manager?
Option A: Has a team with little power in a pitcher's park, but has good speed and fundamental skills. Adapts to the strengths of his team by introducing more strategy and small-ball techniques such as bunting.

Option B: Same team, but manager tries to win by stressing the big inning and power hitting the same way he has for years before that have worked.

A is Hillman in the last couple years as a manager in Japan where he led his team to the playoffs and a league championship (could be two if they win this year). B is Hillman in his first couple years as a manager in Japan where the team was not getting better.

Point being, as noted in a comment above, Hillman has expressed his style of coaching as being tailored toward the big inning, hit the home run kind of thinking. But he was able to adapt to the personnel around him and make the best decisions based on the player's strengths and weaknesses. Why wouldn't he be able to adapt to the Royals personnel and make the right decisions on what type of ball they should be playing? Do you really think that he will try and bunt as often as he did in Japan? He seem's smarter than that to me.

by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No negative vibes!
Don't you hex this now with negative vibes!  Everything is good, better than good, perfect.  Hillman will be the best manager ever.  Today is the beginning of a new dynasty.  

Just look at Pleasant Royals Cheerleader Lady and send out double plus optimistic vibes.

"Oh my gosh!  I have never been so happy in my life!  How did the Royals get so lucky!  The future is just one big shiny smile!  Up with life!  Joy and, .. oh my!

by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that Hillman is a fresh voice
and I also had my doubts about Girardi

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have more than "doubts" about
Girardi after what happened to the Marlins' young pitchers this year. He was reaally bad at perhaps the most key aspect of managing that team: keeping all their young arms in shape.
"True friends stab you in the front."-Oscar Wilde.

by NHZ on Oct 19, 2007 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huge sigh of relief over Girardi
Not sure what to think of Hillman, but definitely did not want Joe G. in there.  

Glad he turned us down, but also a bit concerned Moore approached him to begin with.  

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way
if you Google "Trey Hillman coaching career", the first hit is Royals Review.

by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trey Hillman manager
is the sixth hit
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for a change in leadership
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My mistake
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AAAAGH
;
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bottom line
no more bell

we'll see how hillman works out, i don't have high hopes

Anyone but Terry

by FireBell on Oct 19, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you registered the name
FireHillman yet?
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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reasons for hope.
We do not know much about Hillman, but we do know:
  1. He prefers to play for big innings.  He likes walks and extra base hits.
  2. He can manage small ball well when it suits his roster.  He has demonstrated intellectual flexibility.
  3. He seems a decent and thoughtful guy.  It appears he was well liked in Japan and is leaving on his own terms.
  4. He was on the radar screen of several other clubs.  It wasn't like only the Royals thought he had the potential to be a good MLB manager.
  5. He turned a traditional dog franchise into a winner in Japan.  A small market team which lived in the cellar rose to a champion during his tenure.
  6. He may make the Royals more attractive to Japanese players.  And there are at least two Japanese free agents out there right now that would help the club.
I think we have grounds for hope here.

by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trey Hillman Selections
A compilation of songs Trey Hillman enjoys, released in Japan to take advantage of his celebrity. He doesn't actually play on this CD, although supposedly he does play the guitar.

Trey Hillman Selections

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There is much about Japanese culture
That is very weird!
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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a couple things
 "He's won at every level of the minor leagues," Moore said. "He's been manager of the year at every level. He took a team over there in Japan that had never won and in year No. 4, they won the Japan series.

"This year, they're back in the Japan series with a team that's last in basically every offensive category."

Last in basically every offensive category? Sounds like he won't need a lot of time to adjust. This is exactly what we need.

Also, take a look at Hillman's minor league statistics - couldn't hit, but drew a lot of walks. That's a welcome change from Buddy.

by Moose Tacos on Oct 19, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No wonder Bobby Valentine wasn't considered
http://bobbysway.jp/

The way I see it, if you're blogging about your job in Japanese, you're truly dedicated to where you are.

"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's certainly adapted to the game there
"The bunt is a key play in baseball that should be used to advance runners as well as to begin and continue innings"

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby V is a god in Japan
He has endorsements all over the place and for all sorts of stuff.

He has always seemed, dating back to his 1st stint there, to really enjoy Japan and the NPB.

visiting A's and Mets fan

by rfloh on Oct 20, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth
Here are some of the players Hillman managed while a Yankee skipper:

Carl Everett
Mariano Rivera
Jorge Posada
Derek Jeter
Andy Pettitte
Mike Lowell
Eric Milton
Alfonso Soriano
Ted Lilly
Jake Westbrook
Nick Johnson
Juan Rivera

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by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, Okay...it might as well be said here and now
FIRE HILLMAN!!!!!   I don't know why or how but I just wanted to be first in making that comment.  I know it will come up at some point next season.  I just wanted to be on record as the first person that said it.  Mark the time and date....  

That being said, welcome aboard Trey.  I wish you all the luck and hope that you will bring your extra large bags of tricks with you and let the team use each and every one of them.  I am looking forward the ST in a big way now.

Go Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love the informal rules about
making annoucements during the playoffs... yet baseball jumped all over itself to announce THE MITCHELL REPORT IS COMING AND HAS BIG NAMES IN IT!!

i don't understand this world sometimes

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will Betancourt be one of them?
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's only the World Series
that there's a rule about making announcements during.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many former/current Royals will appear
In the Mitchell Report?  I'd take an over/under at 5.  

Grimsley was involved, so I'm sure he's provided some names from his days as a Royal.

"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

current? none
former... i dunno 2

i will greet the whole thing with a yawn

by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

since betancourt was the ringleader?
"I'm tired of all these stupid a$$ questions every day. Why the f**k would I hit Brett for Miller?" The rest is history.

by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope
we can name the names, express our rightous indignation and get back to baseball quickly.  I don't know what the purpose the report serves now, since agreements about drug testing are in place and being enforced.  

by 390 on Oct 19, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are some obvious candidates
Ken Harvey
Luis Ordaz
Mendy Lopez
Graeme Lloyd

And of course, the already busted Neifi Perez (that was "uppers" though wasn't it?)

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Positive Tests
Seems like a lot of the guys that have been busted for testing positive for banned substances have been pretty pathetic ballplayers and not very big names. Since the Royals have had as many of these kind of guys and probably more than most other teams, I would not be surprised to see a few former/current Royals on that list.

by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some names that would not surprise me
Mike Sweeney
Matt Stairs
Reggie Sanders
Jose Lima
Juan Gonzalez
Jeremy Giambi (of course)
Dean Palmer
Jay Bell

by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume Chico Lind makes the list
Of course, if he took steroids or amphetamines it would probably be because he thought they were  narcotics of some sort.  So, I don't think we can point fingers.

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Lima
Is valtrex a performance enhancing drug?

by Skirra on Oct 20, 2007 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask, and you shall receive. Per ESPN:
Report: Indians' Byrd bought nearly $25K of HGH

ESPN.com news services

Paul Byrd, who pitched the Cleveland Indians to the brink of the World Series with a victory in Game 4 of the ALCS on Tuesday, bought nearly $25,000 worth of human growth hormone and syringes, according to a published report.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported Sunday that Byrd's purchase was from the Florida anti-aging clinic that was the focus of law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs, according to business records.

The paper reported that the purchases were made via credit card from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center between August 2002 and January 2005. In that time frame, Byrd pitched for the Kansas City Royals, the Atlanta Braves and the Los Angeles Angels.

Byrd, who is 2-0 this postseason with a 3.60 ERA as a starter for Cleveland, did not comment after The Chronicle attempted to reach him through his agent via phone and e-mail. The Indians declined comment as well.

The paper said Byrd spent $24,850 to buy more than 1,000 vials of growth hormone as well as hundreds of syringes. The records reviewed by The Chronicle included such items as purchase and shipping orders, Byrd's birth date and his Social Security number. The source that provided the records said the orders placed were consistent with personal use of HGH.

During his 13-year career in which he has played for seven different teams, Byrd is 97-81 with a 4.35 ERA. This season, he started 31 games and had a 15-8 record with a 4.59 ERA.

by James Quinn on Oct 21, 2007 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm optimistic
I hope he really is a guy who tailors he approach towards the team, though, because all that bunting is a little scary.

Everything else looks good. I'm glad GMDM brought in a fresh face.

"True friends stab you in the front."-Oscar Wilde.

by NHZ on Oct 19, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put me down for really
liking this hire. One reason people complained about Bell is that nobody wanted him in the first place. I've talked with some friends today who were upset that we hired someone with no MLB experience and I told them that we already had that in Bell and look what that got us. This fresh face is exactly what we need. I would be interested to know if he's a "player's manager" or more of a hard ass though. Good Job Dayton. On a funny note, did anyone hear Soren Petro ask Brian MacRae today if they had to fight ham regularly in Japan? Classic.

by royaldaddy on Oct 19, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would also like to know if he leans
towards gritty vets or baby faced rookies.  Does he tailor the lineup card and his offensive philosophy to the 25 man team or just some gritty rock and a hardplace thought process.  

I am hoping he keeps Bobby Mac, but I think Doran is gone for sure.   I just hope Hellfire knows what he is doing.  Thats Mr. Hellfire to you....

by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mac is staying
And he plays "the best players" all the time. Gives the team the best chance to win.

by doublestix on Oct 19, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't expect Hillman but I like it on first
glance.  I think the playing in the majors is overrated although it may win respect of the players.  Hillman has managing experience and has been successful at every stop along the way minors and Japanese majors.  Couldn't say that about Buddy.  Obviously with Muser, Pena and Bell, playing experience doesn't always translate to winning.  

Loved the attitude of changing the managing strategy to fit the personnel of the team.  KC will need that approach - shows me a willingness to adapt and learn.  

I wasn't thrilled with the current pool of manager prospects so after a few hours, the move looks good on paper.  It was also important that KC got someone they liked on board before free agency gets going and roster moves are being made.  Good timing by GMDM.  I didn't want the also rans in the Yankees job.  

What will we Royals fans discuss for next 2 months until the Rule 5 draft?  

by daveyork on Oct 19, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Organizational meetings...
Owners meetings in December...  Winter Ball...  Can Billy Butler play the field with out hurting himself?   A Royal Review Day at the K next season... A field trip to Springdale to see Rowdy pitch...  Spring Training, who is going and when...

Just a few items of discussion, maybe.  

by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Love This
Hire so far. I'll give him a lot of rope with which to hang himself. I hope, and somehow believe, he will not use all of it.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Oct 20, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hillman-san
I like that Trey Hillman has won everywhere he's managed.  From the Big Inning philosophy in the Yankees organization to Small Ball in Japan, the guy seems to be able to approach the game by using no more, and no less, than all the tools at hand.  

It doesn't bother me in the least that he has no MLB experience.  I think back to a Casey Stengle-ism: "I was not successful as a player, as it it a game of skill."  Sometimes the guy (Jack McKeon to mind) who knows what it takes even if he's unable to do it himself brings an insight to games.  And just how many games in a season turn on what a manager does?  

The job in baseball isn't Head Coach, it's manager.  He manages egos, talent, injuries, situations, slumps, streaks, media, fan expectations...  

I have a good feeling about Hillman.  And I wish him well.

90% of this game is half mental

by MonkeyHawk on Oct 20, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i absolutely love the hire...
WAY too many retreads are hired to be managers (read: baker, dusty), im glad that GMDM went out and got a brand new guy (relative to MLB).

plus, from what ive read he seems to have a good track record with player development and that is probably the most important part of this job.

they key is for us to keep mcclure and to find a really good hitting coach...

by rockchalk on Oct 20, 2007 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i also like that he paid his dues
this wasn't a guy who two years ago got bored with being a rich guy and said, "i wanna manage"

by royalsreview on Oct 20, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just watched the interview.
Hmmm, he is pretty chummy with the big guy.

Just me, I find evangelicalism to almost always be a very unattractive quality in a person.  After watching this interview Hillman clearly thinks about his faith often and talks to people about it, but not in a way which I think would likely cause disruptions in a workplace.

Hillman sees part of his life's work to be a "soldier for Christ" spreading the religion.  He prefers to evangelize by witness not by being pushy.  He gave out Bibles to his coaching staff which I find an inappropriate gift for a boss to give out to his employees.  

In the second part he shows some impatience with Japanese people not being as interested in Christianity as he thinks they should be.  At the same time he is not at all curious about Japanese religious beliefs.  When asked about an aspect of Christianity by a group of Japanese men he asked them if they knew what happened after death, and before they could answer he told them he was pretty sure they did not know the truth.  This was the only part of the interview that made me think poorly of Hillman.

He seems like a low keyed decent guy with humility.  He makes fun of his CD.  If I worked for the Royals I would not be spending my Sunday mornings with Hillman but I do think I would like him.  He does have a slow calm way of talking which I think is always a plus in a high pressure work place.

One last note, his wife was there for the 40 minute interview.  She said five words.

Hey 390, nice find!  Thanks for posting the link.

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JoePo on the Royals hiring Hillman
"There's no telling if Trey Hillman will win championships in Kansas City. There's no telling how successful he will be as the Royals manager. But here's the big thing: This time the Royals got the No. 1 guy. They got the hottest managing prospect around. They got a 44-year-old man who has been chosen the Yankees' minor-league manager of the year three times, who has won a championship in Japan and is on the cusp of another, who has worked in scouting, development, coaching management, you name it, who has wowed just about everybody in the game."

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McClure is on board for next year !
Now who do we get to replace our hitting coach?
Don't really know what to make of new mngr., but only time will tell...I dont hate the selection so I guess thats a positive...as far as the Bible thing, who cares?..If you dont like a gift just say thanks and forget about it..to each his own...Does this make the return of Sweeney more likely? seems like a match made in heaven! (bad pun)
Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gifts from bosses
There is a power gap between a boss and an employee.  When a boss gives an employee a gift they obviously expect the gift to be appreciated.  When that gift is a Bible, the message is clear.  The person who controls your paycheck and career advancement would like you to value the Bible.

In a workplace setting a boss giving a Bible to an employee is as inappropriate as a boss giving an employee a ticket to a political rally or a DVD explaining that 9/11 was just a U.S. government conspiracy.

I worked in Human Resources for five years.  If a boss gave an employee a Bible and the employee complained Human Resources would have instructed the boss that his or her actions were not appropriate.  If he or she continued to give out Bibles they would have faced disciplinary actions.  If these steps were not taken by HR than the boss and the organization they worked for would be open to a civil suit by any employee who believed their employment status was affected by how they reacted to the boss' workplace evangelicalism.

If you are Christian, turn the situation around.  How would you feel if your boss gave you a copy of the Koran?  Presumably Hillman was giving out Bibles to Japanese coaches who he hoped would convert to Christianity.

I do not expect Hillman wanted to make any of his empolyees uncomfortable, or discriminate based on religion, but just the act of giving the Bible as a gift does create a situation best avoided.

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really wanting to get into a big debate here,
I just don't really care...If my boss was a devout Jew, Buddist, Taoist, pagen...and really believed it was his calling to spread the word, good for him...If he gave me some sort of Bible, so what, I can appreciate the mans best intentions..I may even read it out of curiosity...It would be different if he said I was forced to convert or something. Look, if you dont like whats on the tv or radio...turn it off..if you dont like getting a Bible, dont read it...if your that unhappy about it, go work somewhere else, just because a bunch of lawyers profit off this type of litigation, doesnt make it right...one things for sure...NO-ONE COMPLAINS WHEN THEY GET THEIR MONEY MARKED "IN GOD WE TRUST"!
Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WELL SOME BUSY-BODIES
may complain...but certainly no-one refuses it...
Man when did this country turn into such a bunch of sensitive, spoiled, whiney, cry-babies and wimps..(Not directed at any-one here)....And hey, you got your oppinion and I got mine..and thats what we have the freedom to do..I can respect that. Like I said, the Bible thing just doesnt register on my "Do-I-Care?" scale as much as others I guess....One thing at least most of us can agree on though is.."YAY!...BUDDY'S REGIME IS GONE"...
Let's Go Blues!

by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries
Don't worry about me being overly sensitive on this issue.  I do not share Hillman's religious commitment but, as I wrote earlier, I am very happy with him as the manager.  I think he will do a very good job and in most ways I already think I like the guy.  I have no reason to think Hillman will ever discriminate but even still, I think it would be better if he didn't give out Bibles in KC.  It is just not something you should do at work.

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just want him to get a haircut
...unless that is the source of his power.  

I could not care less about what his religious leanings are... all I care is that he handles his bullpen properly, doesn't over extend his starters, doesn't rely too heavily on small ball, and plays the youngsters.  

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"God" Can Be
Anything, from Hairy Thunderer to Cosmic Muffin to Flying Spaghetti Monster to my favorite, the Giant Mucus Covered Slug in the sky. The Bible, specifically the New Testament, is all about Jesus and Paul's ideas about what he meant, as filtered through the Council Of Nicea's sieve to produce the one true voice of God; that is another matter entirely.
Being a fan is irrational, but what is the alternative?

by philofthenorth on Oct 20, 2007 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i believe that's actually a violation of US labor
laws.  Of course, it may not work that way in Japan -- but here if there are any stipulations attached to religious gift giving (e.g. promotions/raises tied to accepting Jesus) then he's opening himself up to to potential lawsuits.  

 

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops
Sry - just finished reading the rest of your post.  You basically addressed what I said.

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is right.
Religion, Race, Gender, Age or Political Affiliation should never be considered for employment purposes.  The factor that is sometimes missed here is that discrimination is illegal, but not criminal.  The only way to redress discrimination is through civil action in the courts, which requires expensive and lengthy legal action and proof of material damages.  No one likes lawsuits but they are the sole legal method open to citizens to enforce laws prohibiting discrimination.  Eliminating discrimination lawsuits would in effect make discrimination legal.

So, in this specific case of giving out Bibles at work, this should never present a legal problem provided no actual material discrimination occurs based upon religious beliefs.  If an employee felt he or she was discriminated against because they didn't share the boss' faith they would have to bring suit and prove that they were denied something material (like a promotion or the ability to stay in their current job) before the court would award damages.

Of course, even if a case was decided in the employer's favor both parties would have legal expenses, the work environment would likely degrade due to division, and the employer would inevitably collect some negative PR.  This is why Human Resources best practice guidelines work to eliminate situations which might be perceived as gateways to discrimination.  I worked in the University of Louisville HR office for five years and we were very diligent to make sure that hiring decisions did not include any factors which might be traced back to the list at the beginning of this overly long message.

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you trying to say
that Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball? Let's just hope we don't sign Pedro Cerano this offseason.

by royaldaddy on Oct 20, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,
but he lacks that killer instinct.

by 390 on Oct 20, 2007 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Fighters are set to defend their title
a week from today in a rematch against the Dragons.  Goooo Figthers!

by mazoboom on Oct 20, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice to watch some of these games.
It would be nice if MLB.com had a webcast package for the Japan Series.  I never had interest in the past, but it would be nice to see how Hillman handles certain game situations.

by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always had interest in the NPB.
I think it's vastly underrated in USA, I wish I could see some games too, beyond Japan in the World Baseball Classic.  I'd also love to see a Japan Series winner vs. World Series winner for a true World Series. I'd like to see this before the MLB takes all the good Japanese players and it really is just a minor league.

by mazoboom on Oct 20, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wish
There was an All-Baseball Channel that featured Japanese League games, winter league games in Arizona and Mexico, and hot-stove talk that wasn't completely dominated by the Yankees and Red Sox.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.
If MLB.com could come to some agreement with Japanese, Mexican, Venezuelan, etc. baseball I bet they could package about 50 such broadcasts and find quite a few people willing to pay $15 or $20 a year for a subscription.  

I paid  $10 for the spring training package (which included a small number of Arizona League games) and was happy to do so

Sometimes you just want to watch a baseball game in December.  Or watch your team prospects in off-season action.  Or just see what baseball looks like in  the Dominican Republic.

by James Quinn on Oct 21, 2007 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Kansas City Ham Fighters!
I know how he managed in Japan.  I have no idea how he'll manage in MLB.  They are clearly two different games.  I hope Hillman agrees and manages accordingly.
I probably disagree with you.

by NYRoyal on Oct 21, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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