Royals Closing in on Manager? Trey Hillman Will Be the Next Manager of the Royals
Well, this was a strange beginning to this story.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/322975.html
The KC Star is off and running with the rumor mill. Their source claims that the Royals are closing in on a manager from Japan - Trey Hillman or Terry Collins.
I don't know anything about these two, but I didn't expect this. Perhaps they're trying to buy some leverage in the Fukudome sweepstakes????...or not.
Update [2007-10-19 2:6:12 by royalsreview]:
And here I was worried we'd bring an old-school National League type manager. Turns out, Dayton Moore may go further than that, as the Royals may look to the land of the first-inning bunt instead. I expect numerous winter and spring stories about how "[Manager X] learned how to approach the game THE RIGHT WAY in Japan." And lets not forget the custom of Japanese pitchers throwing more innings and pitching more regularly too. (Maybe because they're also getting four free outs a game from bunts!)
Fun.
I'll send KCROYALS.com a few story templates in time for Spring Training. Here's the first one.
Surprise- Royals Manager Terry Collins learned a thing or two while managing in Japan: octopus is a tasty dinner, the sunrise over Mt. Fuji will take your breath away, and never to underestimate the power of fundamental baseball."We had a couple guys out here today that weren't putting the team first, and I don't care who you are, we will be doing that this season," Collins said.
After failing to get a bunt down in the third inning against the Rangers, Collins was seen giving Billy Butler an earful in the dugout.
"I can't really tell you what he told me," Butler said, laughing. "The important thing is that I learn and get better. [DeJesus] did his job getting on, and I've got to get him over."
With the battle for the final roster spots winding down, Collins says he's been impressed with Kerry Robinson's speed.
"Speed brings a dimension to this team that forces the opponent to adjust. Worrying about a speedy runner is the greatest pressure a pitcher can face," Collins said.
For Collins, its a matter of consistency.
"Speed doesn't go into a slump."
"Really, this is a simple game, and the formula has been the same for a hundred years. The game in Japan is still the pure game, and its the game we'll see more of in the post-steroid era."
Now if he could just find a place that sells octopus.
Collins' managerial stats at b-r. In my memory Collins was a Larry Bowa type, but I could be wrong. Anyone know more?
UPDATE 2007-10-19 10:06 by DCRoyal
The KC Star now reports that's it's all but finalized: Trey Hillman will be managing the Royals in 2008 and beyond with a multi-year deal on the table. The Star expects a formal announcement from the Royals as soon as later today.
Personally, I don't know what to think of this. Hillman has no MLB experience, but he outdueled Bobby Valentine in the 2007 Japan Series and brought the first JPB title to a franchise that in Japan has classically been a laughingstock and was even banished from Tokyo to the northernmost semi-Siberian island of Hokkaido. Reportedly, he read Japanese anime comics and a translated copy of Bushido (The Way of the Samurai) upon taking a job managing the Nippon Ham Fighters to learn about Japanese baseball culture, yet he was fiercely criticized by one of his starting pitchers for being too cold and calculating in yanking him from bases loaded jam. Hillman also carries a stopwatch with him at all times during games, perhaps as a reminder that he needs to pace himself - baseball games are marathons, not a sprint. He's a Christian who dedicates his success to God. He's Texan. And, he loves his twangy country guitar, having released a Christmas CD in Japan. Taken together, what do these facts and rumors mean? Nothing. I'm just surprised, and somewhat excited in a way that's totally irrational, that GMDM is thinking outside of the box with this hire.
Perhaps Hillman's years managing as an expatriate in the Land of the Rising Sun will bring a fresh perspective to the Midwestern heartland. A glorious homecoming of sorts, and a new era in KC baseball - with Kosuke Fukudome and Hillman's own young pitching phenom, Yu Darvish, not far behind. Bonzai.
Update [2007-10-19 15:16:33 by royalsreview]:
Its officially official now. Click here for the story from the team site.
Not a lot to go on initially. The early slant seems to be in the moulder and leader of men vein:
"I am delighted to announce that we have hired Trey Hillman as our manager," said Dayton Moore, Senior Vice President and General Manager. "He is an exceptional person with a great passion to lead. He is the perfect choice for our organization.
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Just saw that
Speculation about a replacement for Torre will most certainly center on bench coach Don Mattingly, former catcher and Marlins manager Joe Girardi, Cardinals manager Tony La Russa and perhaps coaches such as Tony Pena and Larry Bowa.
Tony f*cking Pena......I BELIEVE!!!!!
by Berroa is the devil on Oct 18, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's rumors and speculation
by DC Royal on Oct 18, 2007 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please god
by NHZ on Oct 18, 2007 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this would be awesome...
by PhattStairs on Oct 19, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
collins is a little ball fiend, right?
by FireBell on Oct 18, 2007 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it the same Terry Collins
by James Quinn on Oct 18, 2007 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry Freakin' Collins?
by royaldaddy on Oct 18, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not good?
by doublestix on Oct 18, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have Hillman over Collins
by ksuroyal on Oct 18, 2007 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Start your prep work...
Trey Hillman: ESPN Story written by Hillman upon winning the 2006 Japan series... well written article, and I can see why he might be favored in KC (small market).
However, I would like to point out that the carefully worded leak read as follows: "Sources close to the process indicate a decision could be announced early next week, before the start of the World Series, and say the club is looking at someone currently managing in Japan." It doesn't say that the Royals are locked in on a manager from Japan, just that one is under consideration.
If you were GMDM, and you were going to announce in a week, and you wanted to surprise the community and maybe all of baseball, wouldn't you send a lackey out to lay down a fake lead on a Japanese manager?
I believe by this time next week we'll know who the manager will be, but we won't know who it is until GMDM takes the podium.
by Cleveland on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn ESPN
So, guess what ESPN called the article:
Yankees manager-candidate Hillman negotiating with Royals: sigh. And they wonder why we hate them.
Anyway, here is the story
Trey Hillman, who has long been considered a possible sleeper candidate within the New York Yankees' organization in the event Joe Torre departed, is in serious negotiations to be the next manager of the Kansas City Royals.
Hillman, 44, has managed the Nippon Ham Fighters in recent seasons, after years as a manager within the Yankees' minor league system. Nippon beat Bobby Valentine's Chiba Lotte Marines 6-2 Thursday to win the Pacific League championship series in Japan.
The Royals have been seeking a possible replacement for Buddy Bell.
Bell, 56, who was hired by the Royals in May 2005, announced in August he would step down as manager to spend more time with his family.
At the end of September, the Royals had announced Bell would join the front office as a senior adviser to general manager Dayton Moore.
But Bell took a job with the White Sox as the organization's director of minor league instruction on Oct. 9.
Hillman has previously interviewed to be the manager of the Texas Rangers and the Oakland Athletics.
by James Quinn on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doesn't sound bad
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I found a blog entry about Trey Hillman...
Since Joe Torre is without a contract and unlikely to return, it is time to profile some of the men whom the Yankees will look at, whom they could look at, whom they should look at, and whom they should not look at. Now we will look at Trey Hillman.
The resume: Managed in the minor leagues for the Yankees from 1990 to 2001. Won three Minor League Manager of the Year Awards while in the organization. Has managed the Nippon Ham Fighters since 2003 and won the Japan Series in 2006.
Strengths: Hillman cut his teeth in the Yankees organization. He understands the pressures associated with running the team. He has plenty of managerial experience and has won everywhere he has been. He has led teams through pressure games before and a straight laced personality that would set the professional demeanor that has been a trademark of the Yankees' clubhouse through the years. He also plays no favorites, sending out the players giving him the best chance to win. He does this almost to a fault.
Weaknesses: Hillman has never been in the Majors as a player, a coach, or a manager. He has never dealt with Major League egos before. There have to be questions over how well he could run a clubhouse in the bigs.
Outlook: Hillman is a legitimate darkhorse candidate to land the job. The Yankees are familiar with him and know of his successful track record. He has decided to leave Japan so that his children can grow up in the United States. That means Hillman could be a candidate for a job on the coaching staff or in the minors even if he is not named manager.
My take: Trey Hillman will likely be the most obscure name on this list. He also might be the best manager. He would not be a sure thing to succeed in the Major Leagues, given his lack of Major League experience. Still, the fact that he has had success at levels as diverse as the American minor leagues and Japan displays his ability to adapt and thrive in any situation. The Yankees could do a lot worse than Trey Hillman. If they decide to go in a different direction, they should still try and find a way to bring him back into the organization. He would be an enormous asset.
by adschofield on Oct 19, 2007 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my entry aside
Collins is supposed to be a fairly strict guy, right?
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 3:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couple of observations about Hillman...
- He's won throughout his career
- He is very formulaic and calculating concerning the bullpen management.
- He has been successfully involved in player development.
- But here's the kicker, he's never player or managed in the major leagues
by adschofield on Oct 19, 2007 3:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It will make me happy
I'm no expert at rating someone's managing abilities, so until I see him manage the Royals, I don't have a comment about a specific candidate. But what's important to me is that a) the Glasses are willing to let Dayton get the man he feels is best for the job, and b) we're getting what we want, not settling for something inferior because of money, lack of baseball talent, or the small-marketness of Kansas City.
To me, this is Meche all over again. If we see available talent (and the price is reasonable - I wouldn't fault the Royals for not paying $7M to get Joe Torre), let's get it.
by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moore initially went after Girardi
I am interested in Trey Hillman, less so in Terry Collins. Collins has been a winner at the MLB level but he was driven out of two organizations after three years each because of his personality. Apparently he is (or at least was) kinda a jerk. Both in Houston and Anaheim players went public about wanting him fired due to hate. That happening once is pretty unusual. Happening twice in a row, there probably is something more going on there than bruised egos. Still, teams under him always won more games...
There is something to be said about liking the guys for which you are cheering. Barry Bonds might help the Royals win more games but seeing him in a Royals uniform would gut the joy.
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, he approached Girardi
by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hillman
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hillman also comes with some meta-benefits
by Eppenweb on Oct 19, 2007 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, it will be Trey Hillman,
Let the Hillman era begin! It will be a great time to be a Royals fan! Retour à la gloire
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If its Hillman, I think its a great hire
I think Dayton has absolutely hit this one of the park. I was worried he might hire a loser retread, but he has shown he wants to take this organization in a new direction with a dynamic young coach who is willing to think about fresh ideas. I am very excited about next season.

Go Kansas City Ham Fighters!
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know
by mazoboom on Oct 19, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a done deal
Exciting and welcome news.
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The linked story says
As long as it's not a conflict with another MLB team, why does Selig need to approve this? Has the commissioner's office always had to approve managerial hires? Is he still under some sort of contract with the Yankees?
by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Royals are not allowed to hire
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then how do you explain
Obviously, the Royals won't reach the post-season without better players, and MLB knows this, so should have no objection to any managerial hiring.
by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to do with timing
by jbrocato on Oct 19, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More on Hillman's style
I wanted to think deeply about what would and what would not translate from the American game to the Japanese style of play. My theory from day one was to take the best of both worlds. I had to be careful how fast I moved. You can't come in and shock a system. I remember I tried to move our guys to a five-man pitching rotation [six-man rotations are typical in Japan], and the move was too quick, and made the staff too uncomfortable. I'm a relationship, comfort-level kind of guy, and if you pay attention, you can feel the atmosphere drop when things aren't going well. If the atmosphere drops, your productivity is down throughout the team. People get uncomfortable....
I've tried to bring consistency and a positive approach. I've tried to have fun with the players, and let them know when I think they're doing a good job, and communicate to them that the game is something you work at, but the game is also something that's fun.
Foreign managers change face of Japan baseball
Interestingly enough, Hillman won his title by incorporating certain Japanese ways into his management style.
The 45-year-old Texan had gone through his first three years managing the American way with unsuccessful results.
"It was clear that what I was doing wasn't working," Hillman said. "So I asked my players and coaches for suggestions. First, they told me they wanted longer practices -- no more of this half-day routine, in camp. So, against everything I believed, I kept them there until 5 p.m., working on defense, among other things.
"They also wanted more bunting, which is typical for Japan, but went against my big-inning offensive philosophy. But again I said, 'OK,' because this time we had the pitching."
That season, Hillman's Fighters set a new club record for sacrifices, triple the number of the year before, and the entire outfield won Golden Gloves.
With the help of a solid mound corps, led by 20-year-old sensation Yu Darvish, and a spacious home park, the Sapporo Dome, Nippon Ham had its best won-loss record in 46 years.
At the end of the season, an NHK news announcer lauded Hillman for understanding the Japanese way, saying, "Hillman-san is the first American manager ever to make the switch from besuboru to yakyu."
Given the viewing audience, it was praise of the highest sort.
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a new record for sacrifices?
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did it
He has acknowledged the difference in the Japanese style of ball and the American style. I'd be surprised if he bunted a lot here. He obviously leans towards walking and getting the big inning, particularly if he were to manage an AL club in a hitters park like Kansas City. He really seems to understand park factors (he emphasized defense and bunting because Nippon played in a huge pitchers park)
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree w/ royalsretro
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Oct 19, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hillman
by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1pm Press Conference on Monday
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and he will hire Buddy Bell away from the WS
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly guys
If they won, they won because of pitching.
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
I'm glad its not a manager who ignores and hates his own players. (Macha)
I'm glad it isn't some retread. (insert favorite one here)
I like the fact he doesn't have ballplaying experience. He won't be as brainwashed by so many baseless platitudes that seem to exist in former players. (Everything that buddy said or did)
I am excited.
HILLMAN FOR MOY 2008!
by wildthang on Oct 19, 2007 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's the better manager?
Option B: Same team, but manager tries to win by stressing the big inning and power hitting the same way he has for years before that have worked.
A is Hillman in the last couple years as a manager in Japan where he led his team to the playoffs and a league championship (could be two if they win this year). B is Hillman in his first couple years as a manager in Japan where the team was not getting better.
Point being, as noted in a comment above, Hillman has expressed his style of coaching as being tailored toward the big inning, hit the home run kind of thinking. But he was able to adapt to the personnel around him and make the best decisions based on the player's strengths and weaknesses. Why wouldn't he be able to adapt to the Royals personnel and make the right decisions on what type of ball they should be playing? Do you really think that he will try and bunt as often as he did in Japan? He seem's smarter than that to me.
by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No negative vibes!
Just look at Pleasant Royals Cheerleader Lady and send out double plus optimistic vibes.

"Oh my gosh! I have never been so happy in my life! How did the Royals get so lucky! The future is just one big shiny smile! Up with life! Joy and, .. oh my!
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that Hillman is a fresh voice
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have more than "doubts" about
by NHZ on Oct 19, 2007 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huge sigh of relief over Girardi
Glad he turned us down, but also a bit concerned Moore approached him to begin with.
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want that for Christmas!
by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trey Hillman manager
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for a change in leadership
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My mistake
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AAAAGH
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bottom line
we'll see how hillman works out, i don't have high hopes
by FireBell on Oct 19, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you registered the name
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reasons for hope.
- He prefers to play for big innings. He likes walks and extra base hits.
- He can manage small ball well when it suits his roster. He has demonstrated intellectual flexibility.
- He seems a decent and thoughtful guy. It appears he was well liked in Japan and is leaving on his own terms.
- He was on the radar screen of several other clubs. It wasn't like only the Royals thought he had the potential to be a good MLB manager.
- He turned a traditional dog franchise into a winner in Japan. A small market team which lived in the cellar rose to a champion during his tenure.
- He may make the Royals more attractive to Japanese players. And there are at least two Japanese free agents out there right now that would help the club.
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trey Hillman Selections

by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is much about Japanese culture
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a couple things
"This year, they're back in the Japan series with a team that's last in basically every offensive category."
Last in basically every offensive category? Sounds like he won't need a lot of time to adjust. This is exactly what we need.
Also, take a look at Hillman's minor league statistics - couldn't hit, but drew a lot of walks. That's a welcome change from Buddy.
by Moose Tacos on Oct 19, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No wonder Bobby Valentine wasn't considered
The way I see it, if you're blogging about your job in Japanese, you're truly dedicated to where you are.
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's certainly adapted to the game there
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby V is a god in Japan
He has always seemed, dating back to his 1st stint there, to really enjoy Japan and the NPB.
by rfloh on Oct 20, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
Carl Everett
Mariano Rivera
Jorge Posada
Derek Jeter
Andy Pettitte
Mike Lowell
Eric Milton
Alfonso Soriano
Ted Lilly
Jake Westbrook
Nick Johnson
Juan Rivera
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, Okay...it might as well be said here and now
That being said, welcome aboard Trey. I wish you all the luck and hope that you will bring your extra large bags of tricks with you and let the team use each and every one of them. I am looking forward the ST in a big way now.
Go Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love the informal rules about
i don't understand this world sometimes
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Betancourt be one of them?
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's only the World Series
by cmkeller on Oct 19, 2007 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many former/current Royals will appear
Grimsley was involved, so I'm sure he's provided some names from his days as a Royal.
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
current? none
i will greet the whole thing with a yawn
by royalsreview on Oct 19, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since betancourt was the ringleader?
by DC Royal on Oct 19, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope
by 390 on Oct 19, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are some obvious candidates
Luis Ordaz
Mendy Lopez
Graeme Lloyd
And of course, the already busted Neifi Perez (that was "uppers" though wasn't it?)
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 19, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Positive Tests
by MileHighKCfan on Oct 19, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some names that would not surprise me
Matt Stairs
Reggie Sanders
Jose Lima
Juan Gonzalez
Jeremy Giambi (of course)
Dean Palmer
Jay Bell
by James Quinn on Oct 19, 2007 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume Chico Lind makes the list
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask, and you shall receive. Per ESPN:
ESPN.com news services
Paul Byrd, who pitched the Cleveland Indians to the brink of the World Series with a victory in Game 4 of the ALCS on Tuesday, bought nearly $25,000 worth of human growth hormone and syringes, according to a published report.
The San Francisco Chronicle reported Sunday that Byrd's purchase was from the Florida anti-aging clinic that was the focus of law enforcement for illegally distributing performance-enhancing drugs, according to business records.
The paper reported that the purchases were made via credit card from the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center between August 2002 and January 2005. In that time frame, Byrd pitched for the Kansas City Royals, the Atlanta Braves and the Los Angeles Angels.
Byrd, who is 2-0 this postseason with a 3.60 ERA as a starter for Cleveland, did not comment after The Chronicle attempted to reach him through his agent via phone and e-mail. The Indians declined comment as well.
The paper said Byrd spent $24,850 to buy more than 1,000 vials of growth hormone as well as hundreds of syringes. The records reviewed by The Chronicle included such items as purchase and shipping orders, Byrd's birth date and his Social Security number. The source that provided the records said the orders placed were consistent with personal use of HGH.
During his 13-year career in which he has played for seven different teams, Byrd is 97-81 with a 4.35 ERA. This season, he started 31 games and had a 15-8 record with a 4.59 ERA.
by James Quinn on Oct 21, 2007 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we going to get an
by wildthang on Oct 19, 2007 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm optimistic
Everything else looks good. I'm glad GMDM brought in a fresh face.
by NHZ on Oct 19, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Put me down for really
by royaldaddy on Oct 19, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would also like to know if he leans
I am hoping he keeps Bobby Mac, but I think Doran is gone for sure. I just hope Hellfire knows what he is doing. Thats Mr. Hellfire to you....
by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mac is staying
by doublestix on Oct 19, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't expect Hillman but I like it on first
Loved the attitude of changing the managing strategy to fit the personnel of the team. KC will need that approach - shows me a willingness to adapt and learn.
I wasn't thrilled with the current pool of manager prospects so after a few hours, the move looks good on paper. It was also important that KC got someone they liked on board before free agency gets going and roster moves are being made. Good timing by GMDM. I didn't want the also rans in the Yankees job.
What will we Royals fans discuss for next 2 months until the Rule 5 draft?
by daveyork on Oct 19, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Organizational meetings...
Just a few items of discussion, maybe.
by grudz69 on Oct 19, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Love This
by philofthenorth on Oct 20, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hillman-san
It doesn't bother me in the least that he has no MLB experience. I think back to a Casey Stengle-ism: "I was not successful as a player, as it it a game of skill." Sometimes the guy (Jack McKeon to mind) who knows what it takes even if he's unable to do it himself brings an insight to games. And just how many games in a season turn on what a manager does?
The job in baseball isn't Head Coach, it's manager. He manages egos, talent, injuries, situations, slumps, streaks, media, fan expectations...
I have a good feeling about Hillman. And I wish him well.
by MonkeyHawk on Oct 20, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i absolutely love the hire...
plus, from what ive read he seems to have a good track record with player development and that is probably the most important part of this job.
they key is for us to keep mcclure and to find a really good hitting coach...
by rockchalk on Oct 20, 2007 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i also like that he paid his dues
by royalsreview on Oct 20, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just watched the interview.
Just me, I find evangelicalism to almost always be a very unattractive quality in a person. After watching this interview Hillman clearly thinks about his faith often and talks to people about it, but not in a way which I think would likely cause disruptions in a workplace.
Hillman sees part of his life's work to be a "soldier for Christ" spreading the religion. He prefers to evangelize by witness not by being pushy. He gave out Bibles to his coaching staff which I find an inappropriate gift for a boss to give out to his employees.
In the second part he shows some impatience with Japanese people not being as interested in Christianity as he thinks they should be. At the same time he is not at all curious about Japanese religious beliefs. When asked about an aspect of Christianity by a group of Japanese men he asked them if they knew what happened after death, and before they could answer he told them he was pretty sure they did not know the truth. This was the only part of the interview that made me think poorly of Hillman.
He seems like a low keyed decent guy with humility. He makes fun of his CD. If I worked for the Royals I would not be spending my Sunday mornings with Hillman but I do think I would like him. He does have a slow calm way of talking which I think is always a plus in a high pressure work place.
One last note, his wife was there for the 40 minute interview. She said five words.
Hey 390, nice find! Thanks for posting the link.
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JoePo on the Royals hiring Hillman
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McClure is on board for next year !
Don't really know what to make of new mngr., but only time will tell...I dont hate the selection so I guess thats a positive...as far as the Bible thing, who cares?..If you dont like a gift just say thanks and forget about it..to each his own...Does this make the return of Sweeney more likely? seems like a match made in heaven! (bad pun)
by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gifts from bosses
In a workplace setting a boss giving a Bible to an employee is as inappropriate as a boss giving an employee a ticket to a political rally or a DVD explaining that 9/11 was just a U.S. government conspiracy.
I worked in Human Resources for five years. If a boss gave an employee a Bible and the employee complained Human Resources would have instructed the boss that his or her actions were not appropriate. If he or she continued to give out Bibles they would have faced disciplinary actions. If these steps were not taken by HR than the boss and the organization they worked for would be open to a civil suit by any employee who believed their employment status was affected by how they reacted to the boss' workplace evangelicalism.
If you are Christian, turn the situation around. How would you feel if your boss gave you a copy of the Koran? Presumably Hillman was giving out Bibles to Japanese coaches who he hoped would convert to Christianity.
I do not expect Hillman wanted to make any of his empolyees uncomfortable, or discriminate based on religion, but just the act of giving the Bible as a gift does create a situation best avoided.
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really wanting to get into a big debate here,
by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WELL SOME BUSY-BODIES
Man when did this country turn into such a bunch of sensitive, spoiled, whiney, cry-babies and wimps..(Not directed at any-one here)....And hey, you got your oppinion and I got mine..and thats what we have the freedom to do..I can respect that. Like I said, the Bible thing just doesnt register on my "Do-I-Care?" scale as much as others I guess....One thing at least most of us can agree on though is.."YAY!...BUDDY'S REGIME IS GONE"...
by powderbluesfor08 on Oct 20, 2007 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just want him to get a haircut
I could not care less about what his religious leanings are... all I care is that he handles his bullpen properly, doesn't over extend his starters, doesn't rely too heavily on small ball, and plays the youngsters.
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"God" Can Be
by philofthenorth on Oct 20, 2007 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe that's actually a violation of US labor
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
by marbotty on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is right.
So, in this specific case of giving out Bibles at work, this should never present a legal problem provided no actual material discrimination occurs based upon religious beliefs. If an employee felt he or she was discriminated against because they didn't share the boss' faith they would have to bring suit and prove that they were denied something material (like a promotion or the ability to stay in their current job) before the court would award damages.
Of course, even if a case was decided in the employer's favor both parties would have legal expenses, the work environment would likely degrade due to division, and the employer would inevitably collect some negative PR. This is why Human Resources best practice guidelines work to eliminate situations which might be perceived as gateways to discrimination. I worked in the University of Louisville HR office for five years and we were very diligent to make sure that hiring decisions did not include any factors which might be traced back to the list at the beginning of this overly long message.
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you trying to say
by royaldaddy on Oct 20, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fighters are set to defend their title
by mazoboom on Oct 20, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to watch some of these games.
by James Quinn on Oct 20, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always had interest in the NPB.
by mazoboom on Oct 20, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish
by RoyalsRetro on Oct 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I paid $10 for the spring training package (which included a small number of Arizona League games) and was happy to do so
Sometimes you just want to watch a baseball game in December. Or watch your team prospects in off-season action. Or just see what baseball looks like in the Dominican Republic.
by James Quinn on Oct 21, 2007 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Kansas City Ham Fighters!
by NYRoyal on Oct 21, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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