Royals Insider: John Buck
With Christmas festivities having been spread throughout the families of the Royals Review faithful, I've decided to take advantage of the minor dry spell in recent blog posts and begin a diary of mine own. (The "dry spell", of course, refers to a general lack of quantity in posts, not in quality!)
I would like to begin a new segment of Royals Review called Royals Insider. The name might sound ambiguous; thus, why don't I describe it?
Each week, I will analyze each position on the Kansas City Royals depth chart from our current 40-man roster, beginning with catcher (led by John Buck) and concluding with designated hitter (led by Billy Butler). I will provide a short analysis on the players' history, recent accomplishments with special attention paid to their 2007 results, followed by 2008 predictions for that particular player. Because approximately 13 weeks remain until the regular season, I will only choose certain players to analyze extensively here at Royals Review. Other players can be viewed at my website, The Royal Treatment.
Accompanied with the short biography, summary, and analysis will be my 2008 statistical projection, based solely - nothing more and nothing less - on the wavelengths flowing in the sanctity of my baseball-infested mind! Yes, I've already posted these projections on one other Royals website, but why not CC NYRoyal, JQ, & literally hundreds more in on the excitement?
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First on the organizational 40-man depth chart is the position of catcher, occupied by three men: John Buck, Miguel Olivo, and Matt Tupman. Traditional baseball thought dictates that catchers should mostly be judged by ability to block baseballs, relate to their pitchers and understand their pitches and tendencies, and generally "call a good game". Offense is usually secondary when analyzing the game of a catcher. A .240/.310/.400 hitting catcher can easily maintain service time at the MLB for many years. In fact, a .210/.280/.370 hitting catcher can usually tread the thin line between AAA backstop and MLB backup for a fairly extensive period of time (see: 30-somethings Paul Bako, Kelly Stinnett, and RR favorite Jason/Pepe LaRue/LaPoo). As long as the catcher has extensive experience behind the plate (usually dating back to the draft), can communicate well with a big-league pitching staff and "call a good game" effectively, 95% of their job is completed. However, I beg to slightly differ with that fairly dated philosophy. In this offensive-heavy era and especially in our division, which features not only impressive offensive catchers but strong offensive teams in general, offense is generally regarded as necessary at virtually every corner, including catchers and middle infielders. Offensive-heavy catchers are more common than they used to be, what with well above average offensive catchers like Victor Martinez, Jorge Posada, Joe Mauer, Ivan Rodriguez, and Michael Barrett remaining in the scene. If one position is well below average or near replacement level.
That brings us to our incumbent starter and projected frontline 2008 backstop, Mr. Johnathan Richard Buck, born in the self-described fossil fish capital of the world, Kemmerer, Wyoming.

John Buck seeks to improve on a promising 2007.
After arriving in the Carlos Beltran trade in June 2004, many Royals fans were eagerly anticipating the next Mike MacFarlane - a lukewarm average but high power player who could catch well into the next decade. By 2005, Buck had emerged as one of the leaders of the team, and generally related well with the pitching staff. From 2004-06, he showed improvement in those traditional ooh's and aah's of a catcher - understanding of his pitchers, ability to block pitches and - you guessed it - "call a good game". Unfortunately, Buck treated K.C. fans with decidedly below average offensive production that usually included one or two months of promise, only to be surrounded by a virtual black hole.
G.M. Dayton Moore lured in Jason LaRue from the Cincinnati Reds to provide competition in the Spring. Buck responded well, using a leg-trigger many strong sluggers use to gain timing and leverage on the ball, hitting .297/.409/.514 in the Cactus League. He then proceed to set the baseball diamond afire in late Spring, stroking the ball to the tune of a .320/.426/.680 attack in April, with a .387 BABIP, 10 extra base hits, and a 198 OPS+. For reasons still vague, then-Royals manager continued to platoon Buck with Jason LaRue throughout the month, starting him for 11 games. Bell then mysteriously decided to cease Buck's leg trigger that helped him gain so much success in the month. Buck's batting average in May plummeted to .239, and then dropped to .196 for June. The power remained (roughly a .500 SLG in that time-span), but then disappeared almost completely in the final three months. Buck's 2007 trend showed that he increasingly became a liability at the plate, while Jason LaRue, an even more damning liability, continued to receive 2/5 of the playing time. Buck struggled hitting finesse pitching and steadily lost bat control throughout the season, as indicated by his very poor situational and 2-out hitting when the season concluded.
Hopefully in 2008, John Buck can rebound and show the raw power and plate discipline he demonstrated in April through June of 2007. Despite the fact that he'll likely never hit above .250 in a big-league season, he can counter it with the qualities mentioned above, not to mention those qualities old-school analysts love to pinpoint in a catcher.
Attached below are my predictions for how J.B.'s 2008 will shake up:
PROJECTED 2008 STATISTICS:
GS: 116
AB: 434
H: 102
AVG: .235
OBP: .318
SLG: .452
OPS: .770
HR: 18
RBI: 55
R: 52
1B: 60
2B: 23
3B: 1
TB: 181
BB: 45
SO: 97
SB: 0
CS: 1
OPS+: 99
ASSETS
Also, I've included several more indicates of where I believe John Buck's future is headed.
On-field performance: Mostly-offensive based expectations of player
Injury contingency: Chances of player spending at least 15 days on D.L.
Whereabouts: Chances of departing our organization
Job allocation: How the player will most likely be implemented, assuming he remains healthy and in our organization.
On-field performance:
Significant dropoff from 2007: 5%
Repeats 2007 form: 65%
Power surge, true breakthrough (.255/.330/.480): 30%
Injury contingency:
Injured for 15 days or more: 5%
Whereabouts:
Chances traded before Opening Day: 10%
Job allocation:
Starting catcher (80-90%): 10%
Starting catcher (65-80%): 65%
Platoon with Olivo: 20%
Backup/reserve: 5%
As a fan of John Buck, I believe he will benefit from increased playing time, but still won't receive the 500+ AB's some Royals fans would like to see, even after the acquisition of Miguel Olivo. As he enters his age 28 season, Buck will show marginal improvement in plate discipline from 2007 and will slug more doubles than 2007. Hopefully, the leg-trigger that facilitated his bat at the beginning of 2007 will help him accomplish more in what I believe could be a respectable, steady career as an everyday big-league catcher.
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Feel free to post your 2008 predictions for John Buck below!
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Anyway..I don't really understand the Olivo signing, but I think ultimately they will end up splitting time along the same lines as Buck and LaRue with better production. I wish Buck would get the vast majority of the playing time, so we could finally see what we have (or don't have), but I have a feeling we will be in this same spot next year.
Good stuff
For comparison's sake:
John Buck
Age 23: .235/.280/.424 79 OPS+
Age 24: .242/.287/.389 79 OPS+
Age 25: .245/.306/.396 80 OPS+
Age 26: .222/.308/.429 90 OPS+
Mike MacFarlane
Age 24: .265/.332/.393 102 OPS+
Age 25: .223/.263/.299 59 OPS+
Age 26: .255/.306/.380 93 OPS+
At age 27 Mac responded with his best rate season ever, hitting .277/.330/.506 with 13 home runs in 84 games.
I don't know if that means anything at all. I'll predict Buck hits .240/.305/.430 15 HR 50 RBI
i love the analysis
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Dec 30, 2007 5:43 AM EST reply actions
Great stuff...
Again, great stuff...more please...
by grudz69 on Dec 30, 2007 12:43 PM EST reply actions
My Buck prediction for 2008
That is a small improvement, which is roughly typical for a 27 year old player. I think he is an above average catcher, but no better than that. That is still quite valuable, but I'm happy we have a good backup.
Sounds reasonable
The thing about Royals' fans and Buck, for some reason they always seem sure that he is about to break out and become a good offensive player. The thing is, he has been basically the same player at the plate for over three years now. Why do so many of the same fans hold onto the Buck optimism while at the same time abandon players like Emil Brown, Jorge De la Rosa, Ryan Shealy, Mike Wood, MacDougall, etc. so much more quickly?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Buck add 50 points to his OPS in 2008, but at the same time I see no strong reason to expect this to happen. I guess I have just accepted Buck for what he is. A very average catcher who neither helps nor hurts the team. And if Olivo gets 200 at bats next year, I don't think it will hurt the team at all because Buck and Olivo are close to twins in the batter's box. Plus, 200 Olivo at bats almost have to be better than 200 LaRue at bats. I think BuckX400/OlivoX250 adds about a win more to the team over BuckX500/TupmanX150. And as I understand those SABR economic guys an additional win costs about $2M, Olivo's salary.
Same player over three years?
I don't think the stats support that:
Age 24: .242/.287/.389 79 OPS+
Age 25: .245/.306/.396 80 OPS+
Age 26: .222/.308/.429 90 OPS+
A 79 OPS+ catcher is not "basically the same" as a 90 OPS+ catcher. And, while I wouldn't expect great improvement, don't players usually improve from age 26 to 27? So, shouldn't one expect some improvement in 2008 over 2007?
JQ, I've seen you do this for multiple players. You look at the statistical record of a 25/26/27 year old player and say that the player has "proven himself to be X". You give no allowance for the player's age and the fact that he should improve, particularly when he's shown recent improvement. Should we recognize where on the developmental curve Buck currently is?
by Scott McKinney on Dec 30, 2007 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I look at those numbers,
Steady improvement
by Scott McKinney on Dec 30, 2007 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Buck seems to be learning to hit for more power
an extra single or two a week isn't worth ruining his power
Buck's struggles with 2-outs & RISP
by Royals Nation on Dec 30, 2007 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
During the first half of
Buck's BB's by month:
May: 8 BB, 79 PA (.329 OBP)
June: 5 BB, 65 PA (.277 OBP)
July: 4 BB, 60 PA (.283 OBP)
August: 6 BB, 67 PA (.269 OBP)
September: 4 BB, 67 PA (.269 OBP)
It would certainly appear that his BB totals diminished from early in the season. I wonder if they compile monthly data on P/PA (pitches per plate discipline)?
Could the diminishing numbers merely represent a 'regression to the mean' or an indication that Buck was trying to be more aggressive as the season wore on?
I seem to recall several Buddy Bell quotes throughout the season, where he shows his frustration about our hitters not 'being aggressive enough' at the plate.
I, for one, believe there's something to this theory. I'm glad Bell is gone - I wonder how much, if any, of a long-term negative impact he had on our hitters.
by Royals Nation on Dec 30, 2007 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, everyone, for the kind words

Yeah, that's right.
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Good stuff on Buck compadre.
by gayman on Dec 31, 2007 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Kemmerer, Wyoming
When I was in Pittsburgh, PA
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by philofthenorth on Jan 1, 2008 2:47 AM EST up reply actions

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