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Spreadsheet Baseball: Position Battles Royal (Part One)

For those of you who don't know me, my handle is NHZ or Saberrox,  depending upon which blog I'm posting on, and I write my own blog "The No-Hype Zone" on sports and sports-related stuff. I am a very stats-oriented guy when it comes to evaluating players, and I'm an avid reader of Baseball Prospectus--both the site and the annual--and Football Outsiders. royalsreview asked me to contribute a post for the main page once a week, and my "column" is entitled "Spreadsheet Baseball" in honor of an anti-intellectual comment made by my archenemy, Dan Shaughnessy of the Globe, when he was going on a rant against the Red Sox (I'm a Red Sox fan, and for this I apologize) FO and the use of statisical analysis in baseball FOs in general. I should be able, barring injury or exams, to contribute on a weekly basis. I am thankful for the oppurtunity to write for you all, and I hope you enjoy this column and the future ones!

Even if you're not a fan of the new Royals' GM, Dayton Moore, one thing you'd still be forced to admit is that the successor to Allard Baird has, with less than a full season under his belt, already brought in a level of depth that puts Baird's efforts to shame. Moore seems to be able to get an extra prospect in every trade he makes and, while these guys are not blue-chippers, the more guys you throw at the wall, the better the chance that more of them stick.

Moore has also done a good job of creating a team where there will be legitimate competition for some of the starting jobs. The Royals' line-up is not going to blow anyone away, but with guys like Alex Gordon and Billy Butler coming through the system give them very legitimate hope for the near future. The main question is, who is going to support these guys when they both start mashing at the major league level by 2008. It is important that the Royals organization--who are very unlikely to contend this year--realize that this year should be used to decide which young players to keep to form the base of their next contending team.

In this first section of the article, I'll attempt to shed some light on what the Royals' line-up should look like this season, and what it actually will look like.

Catcher
I do not know what the general perception of John Buck is, but in the time I've seen him play, he comes off as a heady player. Both traditional and advanced fielding metrics seem to peg Buck as solid, not spectacular, behind the plate, and there's some value in that. Any critiscisms of Buck's game-calling seem ridiculous when you consider the sad sacks who have taken up space on the mound during Buck's tenure. Buck also has a reasonable bit of pop for a guy who squats behind a plate, post Isolated Power (SLG-BA) numbers of  .189, .147, and  .151 in his first three years in the majors. That has value too, especially you consider that Jason Varitek had a .162 IsoP last year.

What? Varitek was injured, and thus that doesn't convince you? Okay, Victor Martinez, lauded as one of the best hitting catchers in the league, had an IsoP of .149. That's right: independent of batting average, John Buck has more power than Victor Martinez. How do you like them apples?!

Still, there's a problem that has kept Buck from becoming an above average wearer of the Tools of Ignorance, and that's his OBPs. Given that you all come off as pretty educated fans, you probably already know this, but Buck's lines in the majors look like this:

  1. .235/.280/.424 (253 PAs)
  2. .242/.287/.389 (427 PAs)
  3. .245/.306/.396 (411 PAs)
Total: .242/.292/.400

The problem is pretty clear, and it's that these OBPs are low enough to almost completely off-set Buck's power contributions. No matter how good you are behind the plate, if you can only get on-base three times out of ten in a good year, you're hurting the team. So far, Buck has been a bit of a millstone in a line-up that has bigger concerns, such as Angel Berroa, and that needs to change one way or another.

Good news? Even if it's miniscule, there's improvement every year in some categories. Yes, Buck had a negative VORP last year, but the encouraging trend is the small rise in his OBP. That's something, at least (Also, it's pretty cool that he's gone from a .241 EQA to a .242, to a .243 in the last three years). It's small, but it suggests that at least there's a possibility of more improvement. Also, BA can be fluky, and it's altogether possible that Buck can quicken his bat a little. Now I'm getting into wish-casting, but the thing is, if Buck can hit .260 and draw ten more walks, he turns into a much more useful player.

This is a telling year for him though, and to my way of thinking, this is the year he has to step and show if he can up his level of play. He's got Jason LaRue on his heels, and that should be plenty motivation, as the threat of losing his job is real. This is the year where we should learn if John Buck is the second coming of Toby Hall, or if he's got a break-out in him.

Royals fans should really hope that Buck gets the majority of the starts so they can figure out if he's the answer, but Jason LaRue poses a threat to Buck's playing time. LaRue was available from Cinncinnati because of his disaster 2006, as his last three years show that he has been a useful player:

  1. .251/.334/.431, VORP 15.7
  2. .260/.355/.452, 22.7
  3. .194/.317/.346, -4.3
Career: .239/.325/.415

The VORP totals are used here to illustrate both the fact that LaRue has been a decent starting catcher in the past, and how bad his 2006 was in comparison. His career numbers are dragged down by his earlier years, and it's reasonable to think that he might bounce back in 2007. BP 2006 noted that LaRue's power comes on "mistake fastballs," so some may argue that pitchers figured him out in 2006. However, his 2006 line comes form only 225 PA. So why not give him the starting job? Well, that's an option if Buck falls off a cliff, but it's not a long term solution. 2006 might be an outlier, but LaRue is turning 33 this march. This pegs him as someone who won't improve anymore, and could well have entered his decline phase. In short, he's not going to be the starting catcher on the next competitive Royals team (and yes, there will be one). Best case scenario for the Royals is that Buck adds thirty points to his OBP, LaRue backs him up solidly a couple days a week, and LaRue is flipped to some desperate contender at the deadline for a prospect and a cheeseburger.

Bottom Line: Buck should start, but if he Toby Halls again this year, the Royals need to go shopping/drafting for a different solution. If LaRue is still on this team in September, either the Royals are going to the World Series or it's a very bad judgement call by the FO. He should not be the starter.

Infield

At first base, the Royals are primed to go with Ryan Shealy, acquired from the Rockies last year in a "your completely blocked prospect for my frustrating enigmas" trade. This makes sense, as Shealy could turn out to be a useful power bat. He showed some good stuff in limited playing time last year, hitting .280/.338/.451 in 210 PA.

His acquisition seemed a little strange at first, but given that the Royals don't appears to think much of Justin Huber, it looks Shealy is their first basemen of choice. It looks like Shealy--not a particulary young player, being 27 already--will have plenty of oppurtunity to prove whether the Royals' confidence in him is warranted. If he works out, there's room at 1B/3B/DH for Shealy, Gordon, and Butler, sometime in the future. Yummy.

1B Bottom Line: start Shealy, hope that his prodution in Colorado Springs wasn't a mirage. Happily, the Royals will do this.

It's at second base where things start to get weird. Mark Grudzielanek is penciled in as the starter, and there's really no point to having Mark Grudzielanek as your starter if you're the Kansas City Royals. Grudz is a very average player, someone you'd expect to be starting for contending team that doesn't have a long-term solution at second base. Last year, he hit .297/.331/.409, which is very consistent with his .288/.330/.393 career averages. There is no upside here, and he's another guy who should be shipped out at the deadline.

However, it doesn't really look there's going to be much of a competition here: Grudz is the starter, while Esteban German and his .326/.422/.459 line (complete with a nifty 26.5 VORP) from last year will probably be relegated to a utility role. German is not really young--he's 29 this year--and his defense isn't anything to crow about, but he had a 49:40 K/BB ratio last year. Even if he regresses, he's probably better than Grudz, and cheaper. Free Esteban!

2B Bottom Line: start Esteban German. Realisticly, it ain't going to happen.

Shortstop might be a bit of a sore subject for the Royals, where the human vortex of suck has been entrenched at the position for the last four years. In Berroa's defense, he was good for exactly one of those years, posting a .287/.338/.451 in 2003, taking ROY honors over Hideki Matsui. Bob Hamelin, anybody? For those not hip to Bob, Hamelin won the ROY award in 1994 for the KC nine. He was out of baseball by age thirty. Berroa - and his .234/.259/.333 line year - should be headed down the same path.

Despite how unreliable defensive metrics can be, everybody agrees that Berroa is terrible defensively. Is he as bad at the plate as he was in 2006? Probably not, but his true ability is probably around his 2004-2005 level of player, not anywhere close to his 2003 value. This leaves you with a 680 OPS guy who is horrible defensively at a key defensive position. In other words, bring on Andres Blanco!

As royalsreview mentioned a couple days ago, Blanco has a career line of .252/.290/.314, and management hates the dude. Maybe it's because he can field: Blanco has the kind of glove, according to BP 2006, that scouts believe could contend for multiple Gold Gloves in his career. So, setting aside the stupidity of who the Gold Gloves usually go to, he's a defensive whiz with no bat. But hey! Anyone But Berroa (ABB)!

Seriously though, the Royals have nothing to lose by giving Blanco or...who the hell is Angel Sanchez? Never mind. Anyways, point is, finding out if Blanco can contribute as the shortstop at the ML level is preferable to trotting out Berroa, but the Royals--especially Buddy Bell, who thinks Berroa is a "heck of a player" (we assume Buddy means this in baseball terms)--seem to prefer the proven suckitude over the unproven probably less suckitude. Ye gods.

SS Bottom Line: ABB, but for some reason management likes Berroa. He must be an incredibly friendly guy to overcome his -17.6 VORP.

Finally, there is third base, where after wading through the other three positions, we find an established young hitter with power and patience. Mark Teahen was a Knight Without Teammates In A Savage Land in the Royals' line-up last year, shrugging off a slow start and subsequent demotion to post a  .290/.357/.517 line in 439 PA. No problem, right? Well, there wouldn't be, except for the Royals best prospect is nipping at his heels. Alex Gordon just destroyed AA to the tune of a ridiculous .325/.427/.588, and is about as close to a can't-miss prospect as you can get.

The question is, when does Gordon hit the majors, and where (in the field)? Do they move Teahen off third, placing him in the outfield where his value will be diminished, or do they move Gordon to the outfield? Both possiblities, but there is another one: trade Teahen for much-need pitching, and promote Gordon to start at third. Whether or not the Royals should make this trade really depends on the development of their young pitching, as it would be a shame to trade a player like Teahen. I hate to sound cliche, but really only time will tell if this is a necessity. I'm sure the Royals would be thrilled to be able to fit both players in the line-up provided the defensive hit of moving one to the outfield would be negligible.

3B Bottom Line: There is no bottom line. I would keep Teahen in place for now (on the team, for sure), and see how Gordon does in Spring Training. Whatever happens, Gordon is going to make KC fans smile when he comes up at some point this year. Teahen is the one who should be traded if the need arises.

I apologize for being so extremely long-winded. Next week, I'll take a look at the options the Royals have in the outfield, and probably part of the pitching staff as well (starters or relievers). As I said, I'm anticipating this being a three-part series. I hope you enjoy the articles, and comments and critiscism (YOU SUCK BECAUSE GRUDZIELANEK IS A GOD!!!111) are welcome/encouraged.

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Only one minor quibble
I agree with most of your article (although I really don't wish to trade Teahen yet). Only quibble is it sounds like the Royals are committed to giving Butler every chance to make it as an OF. In fact, GMDM is on the record as saying that Butler will not be brought up to replace Sweeney as a DH only. They have him playing RF now, not 1B, so... Then again, the same kinda thing has gone on with Huber - they seemingly can't make up their minds whether his future is as a 1B or OF.

My thought is that if Sweeney is moved at this year's deadline, then German will be the (mostly) full time DH. This assumes he continues to produce at a level somewhat near last season's. Granted, German doesn't even come close to fitting the stereotypical DH, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Didn't we go unconventional before and use Lonnie Smith as an occasional DH and as a leadoff man?

by loyal2s dad on Feb 20, 2007 4:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed
less on the quibble than on the problem

GMDM seems hell bent on not taking advantage of the relative flexibility he had with roster construction, instead, we're pigeon-holing guys into random roles just for the sake of giving guys roles

timid thinking

by LeoBloom on Feb 20, 2007 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Buck
I love the analysis that Buck will be pushed by Larue, and will therefore breakout

Funny, but no one ever calls guys on these statements when they inevitably are ancient history by mid-may

by LeoBloom on Feb 20, 2007 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

With Buck,
I was saying that if Buck can break out, LaRue being here to take his job should light a fire under him. He's had not competition for the job at all over the last two years. Also, he's into his arbitration years--which I should have mentioned--so now the Royals actually have to pay for he does (meaning more than the minimum).
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 20, 2007 6:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz provides vet leadership though
You can't discount that!

Seriously though, if more isnt shopping him as trade bait, I might kill myself.

We trade away guys with potential (Burgos) and resign league average 80 year olds like Grudz

FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Feb 20, 2007 4:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good article
3 Comments:
  1.  Not only did the Royals choose to start Grudz over German -- they extended his contract last year.  The only way this makes sense is if either A. Grudz is traded sometime this season or B. the Royals miraculously contend for the AL Central crown in 2007.  If either of these things don't come to pass, Moore gets a demerit.
  2.  Bad news with the shortstop situation.  Even if Blanco were somehow able to supplant Berroa, it looks like he will be even worse at the plate than normal.  
As a switch hitter, Blanco's been fairly decent as a righty (.760ish OPS) and outright dismal as a lefty (sub .500 OPS).   Unfortunately, Blanco is coming off of an injury that, uh-oh, means he can't swing from the right side.  He may start swinging "air swings" sometime in the future, but it doesn't look too promising there.

3.  Gordon should start at 3rd base regardless of what happens in spring training (unless "what happens" is that he tears his hamstring).  

With his injury history and spotty performance prior to the second half of 2006, Teahen is every bit of a question mark coming into 2007 as Gordon, but without the minor league track record and draft pedigree that Gordon has coming into this season.    

Small sample sizes is what gets managers into trouble, and none so much as the ones that originate in spring training.  Granted, Gordon has yet to "demonstrate he can hit ML pitching", but you could really say the same thing about half of the Royals infield, so why should he be singled out?

by marbotty on Feb 20, 2007 5:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Blanco&Gordon
Thanks for mentioning that on Blanco, I missed that he had an injury. Good catch.

And as to Gordon, I really wanted to write "start the kid on opening day" but there is the school of thought that says it may be unwise to start his service time clock now, so I stayed neutral on that...

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 20, 2007 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's sensible
"there is the school of thought that says it may be unwise to start his service time clock now, so I stayed neutral on that..."

Thanks for the clarification on that one.  I am a bit unsure on when the best time to bring him up would be, myself.  I guess one option would be to start Teahen/German there to begin the season.  I don't know if that's particularly fair to Teahen, though.  I also think that if you're the GM and you believe you contend in 2007, you need to start Gordon on day one.

Anyway, good job - I look forward to future installments.

by marbotty on Feb 20, 2007 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and...
4.  Not sure I agree with this comment, yet:

Even if you're not a fan of the new Royals' GM, Dayton Moore, one thing you'd still be forced to admit is that the successor to Allard Baird has, with less than a full season under his belt, already brought in a level of depth that puts Baird's efforts to shame.  

A lot of the reason there's competition is because of Baird draftees and acquisitions.  Butler, Teahen, Gordon, Greinke, Hudson, Brown, German, etc are all products of Baird's reign.  

You can, however, give Moore credit for adding competition to the 1B/DH role with the acquisitions of Shealy and Gload.  Before, we only had Huber, Butler, Sweeney and possibly Brown as potential options.

Also, by holding on to Grudz, he has increased competition at 2B.  The fact that he dumped Murphy, Gotay, and then, oddly, Keppinger, may seem to counter that a bit, though.

(I will give him credit for bringing in a lot of decent arms into the bullpen.  That has certainly been his greatest accomplishment this offseason.  Of course, if there were holes there it may have been due to his trading away former allstar MacDougal to a division rival, and high-upside guys like Burgos and Andy Tacos.)

by marbotty on Feb 20, 2007 5:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Moore and Baird
You're right, I probably should've thrown in a line about Baird's draftees. My point was that Moore has given the team more options and depth in general, not that he had assembled the whole team from scratch.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 20, 2007 6:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy Carp
That guy is a major league a-hole.

by marbotty on Feb 20, 2007 6:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising...
...last summer this guy was railing against a possible trade for A-Rod while Houston's hitters were flailing their way far enough behind the Cardinals to need a telescope.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 20, 2007 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he's also...
trying to defend himself personally

Ausmus: Your blog ripped me

Justice: No, it was the commenters, I respect your .220 EQa.

by royalsreview on Feb 20, 2007 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly
but he did nice job breaking out the 5 year old jokes about bloggers

well done

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 20, 2007 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

On Berroa
but for some reason management likes Berroa. He must be an incredibly friendly guy to overcome his -17.6 VORP.

actually, yea

he's married to the 3rd base coach's daughter

by royalsreview on Feb 20, 2007 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gordon
Ive read more and more sources saying he's gonna start on Opening Day... I still dont think so, but its out there.

by royalsreview on Feb 20, 2007 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shealy
Should be trade-bait himself, depending on the offer.

by FlintHillsRoyal on Feb 20, 2007 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes
the same could be said of any player that we aren't trying to build our image around (read: Alex Gordon)

by Moose Tacos on Feb 21, 2007 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz
I feel compelled to defend Grudz's contract extension. I'd agree that it would be nice to see German get regular playing time, but bear with me.

Teams sign contracts, not players - if we (the Royals) have an opportunity to sign a league average player without overpaying, we should almost certainly do it, regardless of position. If we later decide the player is blocking the development, we ought to be able to trade such a contract.

In other words, I think it is right to say that we should trade Grudz, but it is wrong to say that we should not have signed him.

by Moose Tacos on Feb 21, 2007 12:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yea...
I depends on if we have anyone that can already play second... And I dont think the Royals believe German can

by royalsreview on Feb 21, 2007 10:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think
The Royals wanted German to prove 2006 wasn't a fluke coming off the bench. If he does it again, he'll be starting in 2008. We'd have a real lead off guy that can steal 30 bags too.

by doublestix on Feb 24, 2007 2:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Article
A lot of good points made about the decisions made to keep players.  Blanco does deserve more playing time and if Berroa's hitting just a shade over .200, we should let Blanco play or platoon the two if he's hitting .260 or so.  Have to agree with Spectator that the Grudz signing was a good thing; even though it road blocks German.  Buck should definitely start, my hope with the LaRue trade is that it lights a fire under Buck and gets him to stop swinging at every first pitch regardless of location (Berroa does this to) and become a more consistent hitter.  Really, he's not that far off from league average at catcher.  A lot more competition will bring a much better team, bring on opening day.
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Feb 21, 2007 8:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Buck
That was my real point on Buck: he's already got one secondary skill (power) is place, now if he becomes more patient you've suddenly got an average-to-above-average ML catcher.

That might not happen, but my point is that if it's going to, it'll be this year.

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 21, 2007 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Move Teahen to RF regardless of Gordon...
starting on Opening Day or not.  That way he will have more experience there when we are ready to compete, shift german over to 3rd and everything else falls into place.  Also how good would Carlos Guillen look in Royal blue starting next season when he's a free agent?
60% of the time it works every time!

by greggagneHOF on Feb 21, 2007 12:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't count on
German being able to produce enough to be the regular at third. Guillen is a great player, and would fill what seems to be an organizational hole at SS. Question is, with the Meche signing, does KC have the resources to go after him?
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 21, 2007 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Guillen
Guillen would be a great signing and with Sweeney off the payroll this year.  I would think the Royals would have the financial flexibility to do so.  Also they'd be getting him during his peak years and we'd be able to develop young talent at the position behind him.  
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Feb 21, 2007 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah,
forgot about Sweeney being a FA. Hard to imagine the guy anywhere else, but he probably should be at the trade deadline. That would definitely clear up space for Guillen.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 21, 2007 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If German continues to hit
he could be our version of Freddy Sanchez. Once Gordon comes up move him to 2nd base since we all agree we should trade Grudzie.  And I think its a crock to think that Billy Butler won't be a full time DH there just saying that while Sweeney is still here.
60% of the time it works every time!

by greggagneHOF on Feb 21, 2007 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense
Aren't there concerns about Guillen's defense? They keep putting him at 1B every once in awhile.

Still, his offense seems like it would make up for any defensive negatives.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 21, 2007 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is odd, I think
...that concerns about Guillen's defense are cropping up right around the time where he's established his new hitting level of ability isn't a fluke. Now, I'm not saying the guy is spectacular, but I think the concerns regarding his defense are overstated.
"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 21, 2007 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff
A few thoughts:
  1. I like your assessment of Buck. I've been defending Buck for the last two seasons, saying that his power is valuable enough that you can overlook his strikeouts and lack of OBA. Is he a great catcher? No. But Johnny Benches aren't growing on trees. If Buck can show any kind of improvement in 2007, I'm willing to stick with him.
  2. I didn't realize BP thought Blanco was some sort of defensive whiz. He seems kinda error prone to me, at least his minor league numbers seem to indicate that. Do the more intense statistical analyses say differently? If he is a defensive whiz, I think its worth something, even if he can't hit a lick. But if he is still making 20 errors a year, I think we'd be better off looking elsewhere. I'd love to have a Ben Zobrist here, even though his VORP was negative last year too. The kid can get on-base and make the routine plays.
  3. I like Grudz, but the extension was ridiculous. I hope we can find a taker for him in July.
  4. It seems like Dayton is being aggressive in the market and stockpiling talent by finding guys stuck behind better players in their organization (Gathright, Shealy, Gload, Bannister). Baird just seemed so ad hoc reactionary in his moves.
"Oh, Neifi Perez is available? Well, although we already have a solid defensive SS in Rey Sanchez, and an up and coming prospect in Angel Berroa, I really like the cut of Neifi's gib. Pick him up for Jermaine Dye!"

There was no plan, no vision, just picking up whatever the market would give him. "Jose Lima is available? Sign him up! Chuck Knoblauch is willing to accept a low base salary? Bring him on board!"

Its nice to see a GM that is going out with an idea of what he wants and finding that talent.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 21, 2007 2:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good Thoughts
Blanco is supposedly well above average defensively. Errors are not always a good indicator of defensive ability. Sure, you don't want 30 errors, of course, but not all 20-error players are equal defensively. Say you have a SS that has no range, and as a result makes all his errors on routine plays. Then, you have another one that has great range and makes his errors when ranging far in the hole or up the middle. Which would you rather have?

Rey Sanchez. Wow. Forgot about that guy. He was the Sox 2B for a while.

"Your best? Losers always whine about 'giving it their best.' Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

"Carla was the prom queen."

by NHZ on Feb 21, 2007 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Full Time DH
or if Butler's defense is improving like I've heard that it is play him in left.  Use Huber as a full-time DH since he is defensively challenged.  God willing sometime in 2007.
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Feb 21, 2007 2:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Defense
From what I have seen, Blanco is clearly the superior defender to Berroa. Purely subjective, but I've been watching baseball for 40 years, and I watch it intently, and it is fairly obvious to this eye that Blanco has VASTLY superior range as compared to Berroa.

I've only watched Butler in person three times - once in person and twice on television. What I saw as his biggest drawback was his lack of footspeed. I didn't see him really break wrong on any balls, but neither did I see him get a great jump either. He probably can get a little better given some more time - but his bodybuild and resulting footspeed limits his potential to average at best. Considering their is a decent chance he might eventually hit 35+ homers annually in the big leagues, I would be more than willing to live with an OF that is just a little bit below avg  defensively. (It works pretty well for Boston with Manny!) Our large Kaufmann outfield is a factor in this decision as well - but who knows - they may decide to bring the fences back in soon if we actually develop a core of sluggers (Gordon, Teahen, Shealy, Butler, and perhaps Lubanski). One last point on Butler - I see him as a RF, not a LF, for two reasons: First, and most important, he seems to have a strong enough arm for it. Second, assuming Lubanski makes it eventually, he needs to play LF because he has BY FAR the weakest arm of the Wichita guys I saw last year. (Both Butler and Maier appear to have good arms, Lubanski not so much)

As for DH - I hate to be close-minded, but I would really hesitate to sentence a 21 year old to full time DH duty! Honestly, at that age he really needs to hold down a more difficult position, if at all possible, even if that means taking an extra year in the minors to develop defensive adequacy.  Look at some of the DHs in the league - it is relatively easy to find an older guy that teams have given up on because he has gotten too big, too old, too fat, etc. Look at Frank Thomas and David Ortiz, for example. Why waste one of your prize prospects in such a role when there may be a half-dozen candidates available at a fairly cheap price to do the same thing?

by loyal2s dad on Feb 21, 2007 5:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true to that...
loyal2s...but maybe outside the box thinking could get the Royals an awesome DH...like say when Sweeney should have never ever been playing 1B...but your point is taken seriously
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

by PhattStairs on Feb 24, 2007 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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