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Game 20 Open Thread- White Sox (10-8) at Royals (6-13)

On a possibly rainy night, the Royals look to avoid being "swept" by the White Sox tonight at the K. If anything else, the prospect of Tee Shirt Tuesday should be exciting. Making the start tonight is the bounty of the Burgos trade, Brian Bannister. Sayeth Buddy:

"From all the reports we've gotten, Bannister's been throwing good," Kansas City manager Buddy Bell said. "We're putting Ducky in the bullpen just to give us a little more experience down there. We're really young in the bullpen, so it just made sense."

Yea, but Buddy, the young guys are the only one's worth a damn.

For more Buddy quotes, check out NYCRoyal's post.

The White Sox send Javy Vazquez (2-0, 2.50 ERA) arguably one of the most maddening pitchers of the decade.

According to BP's Playoff Odds Report, if you simulate the rest of the season one million times, the Royals storm back to take the division 4% of the time. We're in a pennant race boys! Huzzaaa!

I feel a 500 comment Game Thread coming on. Lets do this!

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Go Blue
This is as good a time as any to note that there is no Spreadsheet Baseball this week because I've spent the last three or four days dying of sinus headaches. Damn pollen to hell.

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parts of Maine
Thispart is 50 degrees and sunny. Which doesn't help a sinus headache at all.

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just Info
In case the game is rained out and you want to watch former Royals.  Mark Redman is pitching for the Braves on TBS.
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Apr 24, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RR, what were the odds of the
British defeating the "Spanish Armada"? It's time to start buying playoff tickets folks!!!

by royaldaddy on Apr 24, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

le sigh
I'm going to be so late to the game. It's not even funny. Waiting for my friend to hurry it up and  call me so we can go.
Greinke Jersey: $99 Outfield Plaza Ticket: $14 Meeting Your Idol: Priceless

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 24, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets go Royals
this better be worth skipping psych class. As long as we are in it for at least three innings I'll be happy.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since we're such a forward thinking,
Sterger-awake site, and RR submitted Scarlet Whatserface as a possible Sterger figure (hee hee, I'm so clever), I'll link this. Turns out not all bloggers live in their mother's basements (A Dan Shaughnessy opinion).

http://alyssa.mlblogs.com/

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ALyssa is currently the hottest woman alive
Thanks to that blog.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we should interview her.
Just because...uh...she...knows baseball! Yeah, that's it!

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not willing to give
up on Amber Theoharis just quite yet.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a woman like
that needs no blog.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah,
but you've got to admit, it's a plus.

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not trying to dissuade your love...
...for Amber, I'm merely pointing out that Ms. Milano comes off as even more attractive given here baseball interest. I think that's what slayor was saying too. :P

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milano easily
Scarlett Jo would give her a run for the money, maybe take the cake.
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Apr 24, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both
milano is old and theoharris is too uneven... i need consistency

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This would make a fun diary
who are your favorite women?  Loyal 2 might not like it, but it'd be fun.
lordbyronk

by lordbyronk on Apr 24, 2007 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALBA
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was inevitable
I saw the Fantastic Four because 1. Our movie theater is five bucks max. 2. 'The Thing' is awesome. 3. Jessica is in it.

Not necessarily listed in any meaningful order. ;)

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

johanssen
I prefer the in the fleshness of Ms. Theoharis. She has to be perfect, and she is. There are no retakes, its all the line, no photoshop, no editing, nothing.

Theoharis lays it on the line every night.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is the game delayed?
I'm about 30 mins from the stadium and it hasn't been raining, is it pouring out there or what.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Fantastic
the only two games I'm really interested in right now are in rain delay. God.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They look at radar
and if something else is coming, they'll likely wait it out.

by royaldaddy on Apr 24, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On cue, lightening and rain starts...
...I don't think this game will be played tonight.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually, according to the radar
the prospects of getting this game underway look promising. After this short little burst, the next system is out in western Kansas. We might get, at least, 7-8 innings in.

by royaldaddy on Apr 24, 2007 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way our bullpen is..
If we could get a lead through six, and get it called, hey, great.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we could reach 500 comments
without a game, personally. I mean, this Scarlet-Alyssa-Amber-Jenn? debate could get out of hand.

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Side note
It sure is looking like a good idea that the Royals didn't resign All-Star Mark Redman.  Got hammered again tonight.  He's not even giving them innings.  At least Perez is giving us something.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry for this but I'm really really excited
UCLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO ONE IS HOME RIGHT NOW!

I HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does that mean you're in UCLA?
Or do you just randomly yell out four letters sometimes? :P

by NHZ on Apr 24, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UMKC!!!!!!
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay so my ex girlfriend looked just like Alyssa
Milano and with a much better body. And had she not been stir-f'ing nuts and a pain in the a$$ every single day as if she was making me pay for dating such a hottie, it would have been great. Instead, it actually kind of sucked.

by balto on Apr 24, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guess we can think of this as our Spring Training
for the first set of games on the West Coast that are coming up.

by powderblue on Apr 24, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to start the game Banny
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gload flashin some leather
Nice
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

play ball
this is the happiest i have ever been

by LeoBloom on Apr 24, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Way
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anybody else's
GameDay look different than normal? Specifically the pitch-by-pitch thing?

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep
That pitcher/batter thing will take you to the "Archives" of the gamecenter, so you can look at the AB in depth.

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First run courtesy of John Buck
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bannister...
is on pace for 100+ pitches by inning number five.

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It sure is a good thing
we have a fresh bullpen..oh..wait.

Check that..good thing Duckworth, Welley and Soria are rested.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am a total noob at this Royals Radio stuff
But there's no way to listen to a radio feed of the game live, besides paying MLB.com a bunch of money and probably getting blacked out for the privilege, is there? I'm in KC's radio area, but the radio I have here gets bad reception and you have to hear equal parts Denny and buzz.

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can listen on 97.3
I believe that is the FM frequency. Or on the 810whb website, as they usually forget to shut the feed down.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ducky is no doubt the long man today
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GameDay thoughts
I do like the new GameDay's pitch-by-pitch box in the lower left hand corner, but they're not showing pitcher release points anymore -- or is that only in certain ballparks?

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes...
i believe it's only in certain stadiums, the K not being one.

by Billex Gordler on Apr 24, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it sure is nice...
having a leadoff hitter who has a clue.  dejesus isn't the best player in baseball, but gosh he's a pro.

by Billex Gordler on Apr 24, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(sorry to keep jacking this thread...
but if the 810whb.com feed isn't doing anything -- it is streaming nothing -- for two minutes, that means there's no Royals game to be had there, right?)

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Try 97.3 FM
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
At least there's no no-hitter tonight... ha!

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Vasquez is....on the ropes!
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he just exploded
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would!

by greggagneHOF on Apr 24, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GLOAD!!!!!
3-1

(now time for gordo to K)

FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Apr 24, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy, Gordon
Way to get a RBI and raise that average.

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you mean he didn't K
the rout is on
FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Apr 24, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh
You say to-MAY-to, I say to-MAH-to.

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!
Still got 4 runs, though. Sometimes, that feels like more than we get in an entire series.

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

send buck home in a body bag
he's killing us tonight
FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Apr 24, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great inning
I hope we're not going to see a Buddy Bell / Ozzie Guillen walk-a-thon tonight.

and thanks Slayor... that FM station is coming in like a dream.

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why no attempt at SB?
would have loved to see gordon take off when the count was 2-1...

by Billex Gordler on Apr 24, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8-1 reds
in stl
FIRE BELL

by FireBell on Apr 24, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont f**k
with the harangatang.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i leave to go do some stuff
and what do we do, we start playing the game...

nice to see gload exploded against his former team, would have liked to see him hit yesterday in that clutch matchup...

come on banny, you have all you can possibly ask for, just keep us in the lead until the 9th and soria will finish the way. if you have to leave before then, watch nervously...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but burgos clearly demonstrated
that he was washed up at age 20

thats why we need a AAAA pitcher like banny

by LeoBloom on Apr 24, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bannister can still grow
just like burgos can. grantd, he will never be as good as burgos COULD be, but he is at the LEAST a AAAA pitcher now and very well could improve in the near future...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think GMDM
thinks he can win next season

which may mean banny has some use

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he's got pitchability
what more could you ask for?

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is that code for...
he's white and coachable?

by LeoBloom on Apr 24, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's code for his "stuff" is
average, but he knows where it's going

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pena is just a ballplayer
he reaches base in any way he can... ;)

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he just
wins

does something

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very weird game tonight
ya jalepena on reaching abse

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on grudz
hit knocks a run in...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A steal
How many on the season is that for the Royals?

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that's....
Not a high number. Not a high number at all.

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well now pena leads the team
he just stole his 2nd base...

still not a lot though

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHy darin erstad is playing everyday for the sox
Boggles my mind. Even Brown would be better for them.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nhz's bet
assuming chicago loses tonite (they are losing 4-0 in the bottom of the 9th against the brew crew) and if we can hold on for a win tonite behind banny, we will both be 7-13.

i am personally openly rooting against the cubs, not only because they spent a billion dollars this winter on 18 different players, this bet.

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitch count
Bannister's about up to 50. What's his limit? He's still on pace for 100 by 5th inning.

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im not resting
until I get one of those Teahen shirts.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sox lineup
not very fearsome tonight

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So
even though I've been personally against Sanders playing much at all, is it socially acceptable to start cheering Reg-gie, Reg-gie everytime he comes to bat?

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea...
and then mail the audio to stl

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone also have the cubs game on
this game should really have been called

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Reggie really has been on fire so far
He has to have some trade value.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My Gameday Froze
so..if you are also following along on Gameday, Gordon grounded out.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah mine froze, too
luckily, the FM station's up and i have a friend on IM giving me the visuals :)

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dang...
Didn't realize Gameday had frozen. Drat.

by powderbluepower on Apr 24, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Joel?
That is an excellent example of Gload's skills in the field.  Lots of hustle, but...

by NYRoyal on Apr 24, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Already past Gordon
2 on, 1 out for the White Sox..

2 out..2nd and 3rd.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

??? wha
internet must have died

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch, who knocked them in?
No lead is safe.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we gotttaaaa get some more runs
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it...i've had it for a few years
I like it b/c i was able to listen to a bunch of the great broadcasters like Harwell and Brennaman (sp?) and Scully and Buck before they retired or passed away...you'd never get to hear those guys if it weren't for that.

by powderblue on Apr 24, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shealy is just sooo terrible
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ moving the runner over
come on DDJ, we need some runs baaaaaad!

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another wasted opp....
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Somehow
after a 30+ pitch first inning, Vasquez has now thrown fewer pitches than Bannister..sigh

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shoot
come on banny, get out of this jam

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Erstad, are you kidding me, argh
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think we need
one more inning out of banny, but in the 6th lets open with ducky...

we need lots of ducky tonight too

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sox advance their runner...
...the good teams do the little things.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes the lead....
Bannister = less than impressive.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF, Peralta?
Isn't Duckworth in the pen for a reason, so we have a longman? ....Instead we give overworked Peralta more innings? Not to mention he's sucked. I guess this means now Buddy is using his relievers from suckiest to best.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yet is still works out
im sick of all this buddy bashing, our bullpen sucks from top to bottom save soria, give him the benefit of the doubt every once in awhile...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$50
Buddy uses every pitcher in the pen except Duckworth.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then Soria pitches the
8th and 9th..just because.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teahan or Sanders are going to go deep this inning
I can feel it man.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed
we've basically just bashed 2/3 of the bullpen, which means 2/3 of the time, the move Buddy makes is going to suck completely regardless of whether it makes sense from a game mgmt perspective.

by powderblue on Apr 24, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why waste a short reliever
when you need a long reliever?

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh..because
I guess Peralta is now a long reliever..who knew.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how the hell have we not chased Vasquez yet?
after scoring 4 in the first against him.

by powderblue on Apr 24, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he turned into
No-hit Nolan Ryan all of a sudden.

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vazquez is owning us now.
This sucks.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10-2 reds
bases loaded in the 9th

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on jo-el
biggest at-bat of the game so far, we get out of this inning we still have a great chance...otherwise, not so good

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is not hyperbole or exaggeration
a monkey randomly picking names would be a far more effective manager than buddy bell

by Garth on Apr 24, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peralta shouldn't ever pitch?
So we should never pitch Peralta, Standridge, Wellemeyer?

So, what only Soria and Riske should pitch?  There hasn't been a 2-man bullpen since the 60's.  I don't think that's going to work.

by NYRoyal on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is also jimmy gobble or brandon duckworth
either of whom would have been far more appropriate than peralta.

peralta has shown, consistantly, his inability to pitch so far this year. he would be better served mopping up games or pitching for omaha.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

our bullpen sucks
its as simple as that. we cant pitch soria every inning, and EVERYONE else in our bullpen is at best inconsistent. remember on opening day how good jo-el was? we need more flashes of that for our bullpen to resemble anything like a major league one, and he pitched very good in the 5th. it is scapegoating to just blame the manager for throwing him out there for the 6th, just because peralta gives up two runs (after a bad call, mind you) doesnt mean that buddy cant handle a bullpen.

buddy isnt a horrible manager by any means, i dont think he'll ever manage a playoff team (including here in kc) and his quotes are painstakingly bad but the bullpen isnt his fault, its the talent's fault. give us a year, we'll have a mlb bullpen to begin next year i predict...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erstad owns Peralta....
GOtta be friggin kidding me. So worthless
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad calls happen
two in a row. way to go peralta.
over the line smokey

by saintalfonzo on Apr 24, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awful 6-4
what a meltdown

peralta has been garbage

by royalsreview on Apr 24, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Garth...
Are you sure that Buddy Bell is not a monkey randomly picking names?

by Stook on Apr 24, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

game over
im done for tonight. i know that this is probably too rash, but good luck to you all. im going to bed...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

screwed
umps love piling it on the perennial loser

by RoyalTex on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok
I'm on the fire Buddy Bell bandwagon now. It just doesn't make any sense to keep using Peralta in key situations.

by playingwithfire on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peralta needs to be sent down ASAP
Since opening day he's shown nothing. This game is a meltdown, again.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When all else fails, blame the manager
Actually, on this site, it doesn't matter.  Just blame the manager for everything.  Don't think, just react.

by NYRoyal on Apr 24, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you
i agree completely. it isnt buddys fault, no one besides soria has been consistently good. you cant just scapegoat BB, blame peralta, riske, welly, standridge, gobble and musser, not BB.

we'll get there eventually...

by rockchalk on Apr 24, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bell
Really? Really? You like Buddy Bell's move here?

Peralta | 9 games, 7.45 ERA before the game
Duckworth | 2 games, 1.59 ERA

Duckworth's a long reliever, it was the fifth inning.

Buddy has been using the pen quite a bit lately (including Peralta a million times), Duckworth hasn't been used in forever.

It's the easiest, gimme-est, duh-est play out there. But he doesn't make it.

Heck, I'd be okay with him putting ANYONE else in. Peralta keeps blowing close games. He has single-handedly lost the Royals 5 games -- impressive for a reliever after 20-some games.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At some point
if these guys want to ever pitch in the major leagues, they need to start getting the job done.

by wildthang on Apr 24, 2007 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peralta has a pretty legit 7.94 ERA
That's where the blame is. If we lose, it's another L for him. He's on pace to lose 20 games out of the pen.
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A
baserunner

by RoyalTex on Apr 24, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gordo hit by yet another pitch
Take'em how you get'em
winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Apr 24, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No..we have Duckworth as middle Reliever
That was a middle reliever situation.  Buddy talks about bullpen rolls..bullpen rolls..if he's not going to follow his own talk, then what's the point of rolls?

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rolls are yummy with dinner
roles would be the specific definition each bullpen guy has, or doesn't have.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol..thanks
Stupid English skills..or lack there of

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so is soria goign to be used as
a closer right now? would buddy have brought him in anyways?
over the line smokey

by saintalfonzo on Apr 25, 2007 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone thought
Soria should come in..we were calling for/expecting Duckworth.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he wants the record
hes taking over for Biggio once he gets the record.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shealy is just sooo bad right now.
Is he going to dip below .100?
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The online magic eightball
I just asked said "You May Rely On It"

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Buddy Bell doesn't matter..
let's just bring in a monkey to pick names then.  Cost us less money.  I like it.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bell
I think he DOES matter, which is the problem. I think that he truly HURTS the team's chances of winning by his decisions. There are only 30 manager MLB manager spots in the world, and I'm okay with putting any of the other 6 billion people on earth in there.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but....
do you think the royals would hire anyone better?

thats the problem...

we need to find someone who can manage the 'pen (not that this 'pen, as formed, can really be managed at all)

by royalsreview on Apr 25, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure it's just my anger at this point
but i've often thought that any randomizing program on a cpu could do as well... if not, i'd be comfortable with ANYONE else having a pretty decent shot at being better than bell. it's not like moore would be just picking a name out of a hat. i'd like to see who he could come up with.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

duckworth
duckworth's in. interesting decision, buddy. just curious -- why pitch the long reliever when a middle reliever would be more appropriate, buddy?

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brown in left field? That's weird.
Apparently he's better than gload with the glove?
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I'm late
Hell of a disappointing game we're watching here.

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually I haven't found this game to be that
disappointing. I guess we lost the lead early enough it didn't bother me.
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just feel that when
you score 4 runs in the first, you should probably win that game. That's why I find it disappointing

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Brown in for Gload..why?
Damn I hope Emil makes me eat my words by hitting a tying/winning HR.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then again...
If Shealy and Pena come up in the ninth and don't have Brown to pinch hit for one of them (assuming Sweeney hits for the other)..I'm going to be really pissed off.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh hey
look at what duckworth just did

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice to know
it's nice to know that if we ever need him in a tough spot, we can bring him in and he'll probably do pretty well.

not that situations like that come up very often...

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

duckworth
mows em down, thank god peralta kept the score tied

by RoyalTex on Apr 25, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ducky looked sharp..
Too bad we had to let Peralta suck again.
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have power....
Mother Nature told us she was in charge about 6:30 so I have spent a nice evening by candle light.  

6-4... but Ducky is in and the world is safe.

by grudz69 on Apr 25, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thankfully you're ok grudz
that looked like a pretty nasty storm up there.

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

approach at the plate killed us tonight
vasquez shold have have been chased much much earlier

still, we do have three at bats left

by royalsreview on Apr 25, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe Vazquez is still pitching
After that 30 pitch first. Arr.
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to Go T.
Smart move on the basepaths...let's go Royals, this game is yours.

by HenKarvey on Apr 25, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on DeJ. we need baserunners...
Soundcard is on the blink so I have to Gameday it tonight....

by grudz69 on Apr 25, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPJ is just an extra base machine
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RR..to your question above
Obviously I think almost anybody would be better.  So..to answer your question..yes, I know we can hire someone better then BB.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god DAMMIT
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Answering NYRoyals
Of course Peralta was a bad decision and I thinked(I mean thought) about that long and hard. He's been pitching a lot(and failing a lot) lately for us and single handedly lost a bunch of game for us. His ERA don't even begin to tell how bad he is this year for us. He let 5 out of 7 inherited runners score and Buddy (recently) keep using him in the middle of the inning thinking he can stop the bleeding, it makes no f'ing sense at all.

by playingwithfire on Apr 25, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grudz gets it done....
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hells Yeah!!!!
Whooooooo hooooooo!!!!!

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOOO!
FAITH RENEWED! TEAHEN!!

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teahan showing why it's his night!
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perfect example of
the value of opposite field hitting ability.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's his strength
but it'd be nice to have some pulled balls, too.

(http://mvn.com/mlb-royals/2007/04/19/the-good-stuff/)

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So..
Peralta can't lose tonight..YES!!

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Extras?
Buddy is a genius!

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As bad as our bullpen has looked....
The Sox hasn't looked much better in these 2 games.
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And now..
Brown is in the game..hmmm.  Sure would be nice to see Gload come up in this inning.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the party
Mac! Now, prepare for your doom!!!!!

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

macdougal has control problems?
never'd'a thunk it.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mac and Sisco
must feel right at home back in KC.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit reggie, a popup?! come on
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good god
"emil came in defensively"

What the hell happened?

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All right...
give us the go ahead run....  come on Brownie bring Teahen home...  Do something right for a change....

by grudz69 on Apr 25, 2007 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI
Graph of the Royals's chances to win tonight, updated live:

http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=270424107

You can see where Buddy Bell and Joel Peralta had their way, and how the offense would have none of that.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes! Yes! Yes!
Hell yeah! F You Mikey!!!!!

by royaldaddy on Apr 25, 2007 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brown just made bell look like a GENIUS
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by slayor on Apr 25, 2007 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give credit where credit is due
Buddy still has a chance of making another crazy, unexplainable move..like bringing in Welley.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mac
I think hes gonna groove him one here.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, a triple for Brownie.....
Teahen scores and I am happy.... come on Gordo... bring him in.

7-6 Blue guys.... YES!!!!!

by grudz69 on Apr 25, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea
screw those black guys.....wait a second.

by wildthang on Apr 25, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way..
Good to see you tonight..glad you have power.

by Stook on Apr 25, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But could it be just luck for Buddy?
Either way, go Gload.

And woohoo on vintage Mac. Maybe a gust will hit him next and he'll miss 2 month on the DL?

by playingwithfire on Apr 25, 2007 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there are still two innings
for buddy bell to mess up, but the good news is that he is no longer allowed to bring in joel peralta.

by Garth on Apr 25, 2007 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs