Game 80 Open Thread- White Sox (33-42) at Royals (33-46)
The wait is over. The Battle for 4th place begins tonight at the K, with the Royals cresting after securing their first winning month since 2003.
Understandably, much has been written and said about the downfall of the White Sox, who've seen their offense and bullpen completely collapse. Amazingly, the Royals have been settled into 5th place since the fifth day of the season, April 7th, and haven't budged since. Thanks to the fact that the Royals have taken four extra games to get to their 33 wins, the percentages should remain in the ChiSox favor regardless of what happens the next few nights. Nevertheless, in my world of fantasy, many great things will be at stake.
On the mound for the Royals tonight is Brian Bannister (4-4, 3.78 ERA), who's rough start in Milwaukee pushed his ERA closer to 4.00 than 3.00 for the first time in three weeks and probably robbed him of a chance at the sub 3.00 mark he would have needed to have had any shot an an All-Star selection. Still, even as de la Rosa scuffles, Banny's been there to make us feel a little more conformable with trusting Dayton Moore's scouting acumen, and has, along with Gil Meche, given the Royal Rotation some semblance of civility.
Squaring off against Banny is Jose Contreras (5-8, 4.63 ERA). After strangely becoming awesome as a White Sock for awhile, Contreras now seems to have settled back into being very average, if not worse.
For whatever reason however, I find myself thinking of Shane Costa this afternoon instead of Bannister, Contreras, Craig Biggio or anyone else. Costa's actually been around for quite awhile now, both in the existential sense and as a Royal. He's 25 years old and has already racked up 373 at bats as a Royal. What interests me about Costa is that he's quietly stored away some impressive chunks of playing time, almost always as a temporary patch when someone else goes on the DL. The odd thing is, I can only recall one occasion in which I heard someone talk up his ability, he's actually done some good things in the minor leagues, hitting .312/.371/.468 in over 1100 minor league PAs. Almost totally without fanfare, Costa has begun to scratch his name into the annals of Royals history. Check out some of his All Time ranks:
Like Something Almost Being Said: Costa's Climb to Immortality
At Bats: 373 (120th, one behind Reggie Sanders, two ahead of Chris Gwynn)
Runs: 44 (123rd, tied with Bob Boone, one behind Joey Gathright)
Hits: 94 (123rd, one behind Jeremy Giambi, two ahead of Ryan Shealy)
Home Runs: 5 (122nd, tied with Luis Alicea Esteban German and Juan Gonzalez)
Can enshrinement in Royal Retro's Top 100 Royals Series be far behind?
It must be a strange existence for Costa, who some nights is treated like a 4th OF/pinch-runner, and others is slotted into the cleanup slot and is DHing. In his three-year Royal career, Costa has played 322 innings as a RF, 287 in left, and 159 in center, while DHing seven times. He's started a game in every single lineup slot save the #3 hole at least once, and in 2007 Bell's managed to spread his 12 starts around to six different lineup positions.
Somehow the flexibility, mediocrity and playing time measured out in fits and starts makes for a very random career. While some guys end up being lionized for being capable of being imagined as just about anything, for Costa only his irrelevance seems to be underscored. Granted, there is a difference between an outfield tweener and a infield utility man, but perhaps not as large a asset gap as you might assume. Despite actually seeing quite a bit of him, in three years its quite possible that most of us will go months without ever thinking of Costa, possibly longer. I guess this is why I'm a blogger and not something better, since I don't really know how to tie this up, but the whole Shane Costa vortex just seems weird to me, placing him somewhere between a scrub, an everyman and a cipher. Even Joe McEwing and Joey Gathright types have their supporters, but not so much the Costas.
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Update [2007-6-29 19:8:8 by royalsreview]:
Perhaps inspired by this reflection on Costa, Bell has him hitting cleanup tonight. Also, the bizarre, Teahen-at-first movement continues.
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Over/under on Contreras's actual age?
by NYRoyal on Jun 29, 2007 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Good call
by NYRoyal on
Jun 29, 2007 6:15 PM EDT
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Rainout or Play Ball?
by NYRoyal on Jun 29, 2007 5:04 PM EDT 0 recs
It's been
by DeJesus Christ on
Jun 29, 2007 6:22 PM EDT
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The Costa's of baseball make me
by kjfinkes on Jun 29, 2007 5:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Use of Costa is typical of Royals
Production and skills wise, Costa seems like a 4th OF type who could have some uses on a team like KC. He has been productive in the minors. But like many Royals, the continued improvement at the big league level stops or doesn't happen. With roadblocks like Reggie Sanders, Emil Brown's awful 2007, or a Terrance Long (sorry about the painful historical reference) development will always be a problem in KC. Bell would rather play them consistently than stick with a Costa in a regular position or rotation.
by daveyork on Jun 29, 2007 5:12 PM EDT 0 recs
"inconsistent batting order*
In my personal opinion, hitting at different spots in the batting order doesn't affect a player one bit. Whether you are hitting 2nd, 4th or 9th, in various games you'll have situations where you come up with the bases empty, runners on, leading off, everything. The particular situation you are in, in the given at bat, determines what you must do, not where you are in the lineup.
Inconsistent playing time, however, certainly doesn't help.
by NYRoyal on
Jun 29, 2007 5:22 PM EDT
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i tend to agree with you
by royalsreview on
Jun 29, 2007 6:13 PM EDT
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Weather in KC
by Berroa is the devil on Jun 29, 2007 5:18 PM EDT 0 recs
So, who are the other 97?
I can only come up with a top 30, at best; after that, they pretty much blend together for me.
by cmkeller on Jun 29, 2007 5:42 PM EDT 0 recs
retro wants to run them once a week
Costa is not in the Top 100 however, i can assure you of that
by royalsreview on
Jun 29, 2007 6:15 PM EDT
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Costa - 101st greatest Royal!
by cmkeller on
Jun 29, 2007 7:09 PM EDT
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Costa
by fanatic on Jun 29, 2007 5:48 PM EDT 0 recs
in BP 2007
don't know if the Diaz=Costa comp works, because in some ways the royals dumped Diaz because they prefered Costa
why, i don't know
by LeoBloom on Jun 29, 2007 6:17 PM EDT 0 recs
lineups are... up
DeJesus - CF
German - 2B
Teahen - 1B
Costa - RF
Gordon - 3B
Butler - DH
Buck - C
Pena - SS
Gathright - LF
Bannister - P
For the White Sox:
Podsednik - LF
Gonzalez - CF
Thome - DH
Konerko - 1B
Pierzynski - C
Iguchi - 2B
Mackowiak - RF
Fields - 3B
Uribe - SS
Contreras - P
courtesy of the team blog
by royalsreview on Jun 29, 2007 7:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Bell
by philofthenorth on
Jun 29, 2007 7:35 PM EDT
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Shane Costa
And what's Costa hitting, .127 or something? This "Clean-up with Costa" stuff might be a catchy slogan for a 409-type cleaner, but it sure as hell isn't a good way to set-up a line-up. Wow.
by NHZ on Jun 29, 2007 7:31 PM EDT 0 recs
i'd love to hear a conversation
by FireBell on
Jun 29, 2007 7:34 PM EDT
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I think Buddy don't even care anymore.
Cleanup with a guy hitting under .200? What other team does that with a non-superstar player? Seriously?
by balto on Jun 29, 2007 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs
1, 2, 4 Inning
by philofthenorth on Jun 29, 2007 8:19 PM EDT 0 recs
.182 ave for our boy Costa...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Lets hope this was his bad inning....
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:38 PM EDT 0 recs
ah nice
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 8:40 PM EDT 0 recs
nice Gordo
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 8:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Ha..you lost that one...
At least Costa got it out of the infield. Barely.....
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 8:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Crap.. a DP.... we are making Contr.... look
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:42 PM EDT 0 recs
14 pitches through 2 IP for Contreras
by slayor on Jun 29, 2007 8:42 PM EDT 0 recs
3 k's ... Yes... Banns ...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:48 PM EDT 0 recs
Yes, a stand up double....now we go...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs
therrrre we go
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs
way to move him along.... okay DeJ...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Banns is already at 54 pitches...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 8:57 PM EDT 0 recs
bullpen
by wildthang on
Jun 29, 2007 8:58 PM EDT
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yup
by wildthang on
Jun 29, 2007 8:59 PM EDT
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woooo!
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 9:00 PM EDT 0 recs
You really gotta give it to German
by slayor on Jun 29, 2007 9:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Yes, Yes, Yes.....
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 9:00 PM EDT 0 recs
just noticed
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 9:02 PM EDT 0 recs
dammit
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 9:03 PM EDT 0 recs
DeJesus runs into an out....
Alright, R's. Way to tie the game. Banny appears to be turning it around...his command has been much better since the end of the first.
by Royals Nation on Jun 29, 2007 9:04 PM EDT 0 recs
in the house!
But I'm in Topeka, so in about three hours they're gonna get a brief cloudburst.
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:04 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah that was pretty ugly.
by slayor on Jun 29, 2007 9:04 PM EDT 0 recs
Two quick outs!
by Royals Nation on Jun 29, 2007 9:05 PM EDT 0 recs
anybody else
He even had the veiled slam on Buddy, regarding Contreras' different approach to lefties and righties, "You think they'd see that in the dugout."
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Bannister K's Fields
by Royals Nation on Jun 29, 2007 9:09 PM EDT 0 recs
AFLAC trivia
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:11 PM EDT 0 recs
4 K's ...way to go Banns....
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 9:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Hey fellas
by royaldaddy on Jun 29, 2007 9:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Accck
Gordon was most wins.
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Costa with a double out of no where
by slayor on Jun 29, 2007 9:14 PM EDT 0 recs
sorry
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Woweeeeeeee..... Costa, you can hit the ball.
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 9:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Costa
by philofthenorth on Jun 29, 2007 9:15 PM EDT 0 recs
So, is Shealy still on the team?
by royaldaddy on Jun 29, 2007 9:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Jose Thinks
by philofthenorth on Jun 29, 2007 9:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Yes, two on and one out...
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Butler raaakes
by wildthang on Jun 29, 2007 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Bob Davis...math genius
"Contreras, uh, an economy of pitches in the first two innings combined: fifteen. He's now at 57, so he's thrown forty...uh...in the mid 40s here since that time."
Verbatim.
Bob Davis...math genius.
by howserfan on Jun 29, 2007 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs
And Now
by philofthenorth on Jun 29, 2007 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs
I can live with a sac fly....
by slayor on Jun 29, 2007 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs
And we increase the lead... yeah Bucky....
by grudz69 on Jun 29, 2007 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs


